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[Q] [HELP] touch panel keeps dieing!!! (orange juice damage)

Hey everyone,
I had a bit of a spill with some orange juice the other day right onto my phone.
I pulled it apart straight away and left it overnight to dry out and recover.
When i put it together in the morning it turned on fine and was working fine. I was running it as a wifi hotspot, and running some app updates and it started running like crap. really slow and unresponsive, then the touchscreen stopped working so i pulled the battery and tried to turn it back on.
It then started to not boot. It would show the splash screen and that is all. occasionally it would boot up (after a lot of waiting/pulling battery/trying again) but the touch wouldn't work and it would say it was nearly out of battery (pic of battery with cross through it)
When i boot into HBOOT (vol- and power) it shows TOUCH PANEL-fail which is obviously not good.
After a lot of stuffing around i decided to get a new touch panel... so i did.
It arrived today and i installed it no problems then the phone started just fine. I set up all my stuff again (google accounts, apps ect. cause as part of my fiddling i had wiped the phone) and it was working like a charm. no problems at all, untill i was on a phone call, about 5 minutes in it just went blank.
I pulled the battery and tried to start again and had the same problem as with the orig touch screen!!!
Again in HBOOT, and again have TOUCH PANEL-fail... WTF?!?!?
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
BACKGROUND info:
HTC Desire 8183 - telstra branded
stock telstra 2.1 rom
never rooted.
HBOOT-0.93.0001
RADIO-5.11.05.14

Needs to go for repair. Seems like the motherboard.
Sent from CM7

Well i pulled the sucker apart again, and just scratched around some terminals and whatnot and gave it a good blow out, stuck it back together and it worked again.
Got the missus to play angry birds on it on the way home and it died just at home (like 30 mins of angry birds)... then about 3 hours later i gave it another go... and now it is working again!
If it stops again i think i'll pull it apart and clean all the terminals and boards a little more, cause it seemed to really help.

Buggared,,,,,
Liquid on a mainborad, rarely seems to be fixed by "drying and etching".
Save your time and aggrevation... new phone.
OJ.... should have counteracted with baking soda... But you could dip it in this solution...... Then dry in a bowl full of rice....
Seriously, get a new phone. Or, you could have hornets and bees congregating around it in the future...

i am tempted by the idea of a new phone... but i think i would want to wait for the SE arc... problem is i need a 850/2100 version for the network i'm on.

Yeah, I know... Had a guy the other day, same situation. Saltwater from a wave.
OJ being a citric acid, and saltwater, being corrosive...
Do the math.
Hate to say it, but you'd been better off with milk...
A lot of phones are on discount nowdays, like the Desire... EDIT; Quad band, covers all the networks.

yeah i know... sadly Milk doesn't work as well with Vodka as Orange Juice does

At least you have humor....
You did a grand job of attempting to revive the life.
I can only suggest an alcohol bath... And not the drinkable kind.
And a good drying in "rice" for a couple days.
Please, no comments about the rice.

Well its still working, so happy days for now.

Still going strong now... maybe i have lucked out and fixed it?

you need repair

salahfathi said:
you need repair
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Well apparently i dont... it is still working.

[HORRBLE!] Software breaks after physical fall!?

So I was shopping for pants today, but I forgot I had my Desire in my pocket (front right one, if you want to know).
So, my phone fell on the ground and the battery and the cover flew off.
I quickly bought my pants and rushed out to see the damage...
IT WAS HORRIBLE!
The thing didn't want to boot, all it did was flash the red and green LED...
I (somehow) managed to get into bootloader to see the damage...
That was ALSO HORRIBLE!
The recovery kept restarting (4EXT, the loading screen that says 'preparing boot') and all I could do was take out the battery...
Thank god, Fastboot worked, so as soon as I came home I started running the RUU (from fastboot)...
Again, HORRIBLE!
when the RUU said the phone was gonna reboot into bootloader, it DIDN'T - the LEDs just kept flashing!
So I pressed power+vol- and that did the trick, but after the RUU finished ... again, flashy LEDs...
So, is this a software or hardware issue, and how to fix it (other than going to a guy and pay him to do it, which I'll do anyway if you people (god, no!) don't know the answer...)
I think I'll go to Fastboot next and clear all storage...
EDIT: Held the power button for a few secs, and the HTC boot logo shows up...
EDIT2: THE BOOTANIMATION!!! FINALLY!!!
Still, I'd like to know what the issue was, since it seems like it'll work normally from here on...?

Seems like all I've damaged are the LEDs and the camera Flash (the camera says it's too cold to use flash...)
I'll heat up the battery and report again
P.S.
Sorry for the double post... My PC is laggy today...
EDIT: Can't boot into 4EXT, no matter what... I tried CWM and it worked fine, but 4EXT won't...
And just today, I bought a new SDcard so I'd have more space and speed so I could partition it...
EDIT2: Also, the battery doesn't want to fill up... The second I take the charger out, it shuts down... Looks like I'm in need of a new battery... (curse my pants' pockets for being so big!)

It won't be bad to disassemble your phone and see if some connector disconnected.

How do I do that...? Is there like a hardware manual somewhere...? Because I'll need to know what screwdrivers I have to buy (I'm all out anyways...)
Yeah, it's probably the connector, since I can hear something shaking when I shake the phone (or it's something broken... hope it's the first thing)
Otherwise, there's a little power button glitch when turning the thing on... The LEDs flash and I can only boot if I hold the vol- button (can't do anything, not even bootloader!)
P.S.
I was just waiting when you'd reply (oh, Great one!)

Youtube is a miracle...
You'll need TORX screewdriver (star shape 6 angles), a small one.

Took my phone apart, saw the drivers I need... Just gotta wait till morning so BauHaus opens up...
I saw the tut on how to replace the screen, so that will help... Other solutions WILL be YouTube, since I don't understand anything from those pictures (but the text part of the guide is great)
I found another glitch: The LEDs flash if charging even if the battery is 60 meters away... I don't believe that's a sign of a disconnected connector... Hope it is
EDIT: Installed SetCPU, and my battery has been at 0% for the last 12 hours (without charging)... And the phone works... It just won't turn on sometimes...
Picking up those screwdrivers at about 6 pm

Just one question:
Is it possible for a connector to break? And if so, if one is broken in my phone, is it possible to replace it...? (haven't gotten the screwdrivers yet...)
If not, do I have to replace the whole cable, whole motherboard or only the component of the connector...? Or even the whole phone...?

I just popped it open... Now what? I disconnected and connected every single connector, reassembled it and the LEDs still glitch... And the phone won't go beyond the boot logo...
Could it be the battery? I saw a new scratch today, could I've damaged the battery and that is what's wrong...?
EDIT: Disassembled it again, looking for anything unusual (note that I don't have a single clue about what I'm looking for...)
Looks like I'm leaving the Android phone world... for the next 4-6 years... :'( Good old Nokia, I'm glad I didn't throw you away...

And it appears I'm yet again talking to myself...
Anyways, I'm taking the phone to a check to a repair shop, so I'll know what's wrong...
EDIT: The guy in the shop said a check is free, so I'm just gonna chill and play Minecraft for the next few days until he calls

Meh... The guy at the store checked it (FINALLY!) and he said the motherboard was dead...
And that costs 200€ to repair...
Anyways, I went to another shop and got me an Xperia S...
Goodbye, developer phone

wow 200 for mobo, u could get a good second hand desire that aint pvt1 for 100 lol. ah well hope u get better luck with ur new phone
Sent from my HTC Desire

I bought my Desire a few months ago, in June, for 120€ (PVT3). It was used, but it was the only used Desire in town... (seriously, I was the only person with a HTC Desire in my town (with 200k people!))
Ah well...
Guess I'll be the only owner of a Xperia S in 4 years

[Q] My HTC 1 X is drop dead

I was at a party and had my phone in my clothes since i didn' have a pocket for it..
It was working fine, came to hotel few hours later and i saw that on my lower part off my screen had a different colour, liiiiiiittle darker just like fog. But it worked perfect...
Then i was going to sleep, i rebootet my phone and had it on charge, the problem was that my phone didn't start again...
I had it on charge the entire night without any red or green lamps showing on.. I came home yesterday and since then i tried with rice, and i tried have it in the fridge and i tried charge it through PC and regular... Nothing is working.... What can be wrong? And what should i do....???
My HTC ONE X is rooted with this rom: Android Revolution HD 18.1
Edit:
I can not do ANYTHING, not even vol- +power...

I turned in my phone today and they said that it is PROBABLY moist that has been casing this.... Fkk, i don't like that...
Well, i was hoping that someone here would answer me and maybe know a trick but like i said i turned it in for service and hopefully i will have it back before the end of March .... Untill then i am using one of my VERY old abd broken Nokia N85, it's really sucky to downgrade like that, damn! Hahaha:cyclops:

Probably a hardware fault my friend. Its strange that a moist would penetrate the tiny little gaps on the corner. I did accidentally splash water to my phone but nothing happened and still working fine till now.:good:

flammin_ice1986 said:
Probably a hardware fault my friend. Its strange that a moist would penetrate the tiny little gaps on the corner. I did accidentally splash water to my phone but nothing happened and still working fine till now.:good:
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Thank you for your answer!! =)
Well, since i turned it in i hope that you are right...
My question is then... i have rooted my phone and using custom rom.. Is is still on warranty??

[Q] Boot loop - insurance wont fix as saying it is water damaged

Hi, I have looked everywhere to try and get this problem fixed, but haven't found anything to help.
I have a HTC One X which is absolutely stock. I got it on contract last September and have never rooted it/played with it/etc (I wouldn't know what I was doing!). My problem is that it is on a boot loop and I cannot get it to to get beyond the first HTC splash screen. If I hold down the volume down button to get to the boot menu then it runs for around 1.5-2 seconds then reboots again. The details below show where it gets to.
I contacted my insurance company and sent it in and they have told me that the phone has been water damaged and they will not fix it. I am covered for water damage, but as I didn't declare in my insurance form that this was the cause for the failure they will not accept responsibility! The thing is that while I accept that I have used my phone in the rain on a number of times (I'm a keen walker despite the weather), I have never immersed it in water. I can only assume that the indicators have come up because I've used the phone while out walking in the rain. Despite what I say they will not fix the phone and HTC don't want to know because of the indicators, just referring me to my insurer as the water indicators are red. I am obviously hacked off, but surely if the screen isn't a problem and it's booting this far then surely I can get the phone to work?
The display is as follows:
*** LOCKED ***
ENDEAVORU PVT SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT-1.39.0000
CPLD-None
MICROP-None
RADIO-5.1204.162.29
eMMC-bootmode: disabled
CPU-bootmode : disabled
HW Secure Boot: enabled
MODEM PATH : OFF
Dec 17 2012,13:59:37
Battery level is too low to flash
HBOOT
SD Checking...
Failed to open usb master mode
loading PJ461MG.zip image..
Failed to open usb master mode
When I try to charge the phone it just enters a boot loop, lasts about 4/5 seconds then reboots, so I can't see how to get it to do anything else. This means that I cannot flash it/link it to my pc/etc.
Can anybody help me get the phone back up and running so I don't use it as a frisbee?! I am still under contract until September 2014 and would hate to think that I've got to pay for a phone I can't even use!

You can charge it when it boot loops - see here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1738274
That will allow you to charge it to 100%, even though it cant boot.
Next, did you expose it to water, or is the insurance company BS'ing? What happend when the bootlooping started? Any updates (On The Air) that caused it, or anything?
EDIT:
to get to the boot menu then it runs for around 1.5-2 seconds then reboots again
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Does it reboot by ITSELF, when in the bootloader menu??
Kind Regards
TwinAdk

TwinAdk said:
You can charge it when it boot loops - see here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1738274
That will allow you to charge it to 100%, even though it cant boot.
Next, did you expose it to water, or is the insurance company BS'ing? What happend when the bootlooping started? Any updates (On The Air) that caused it, or anything?
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Does it reboot by ITSELF, when in the bootloader menu??
Kind Regards
TwinAdk
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Thank you for the quick reply.
The phone is not holding any charge at all. I left it to charge for 6 hours yesterday to try and get somewhere with it, but the whole time it was on charge it was rebooting itself and when I unplugged the charger then it booted twice more and gave up as the battery was flat. I assume it was using all of the power coming in to reboot as it went.
I can remember about a month ago that I did have my phone in my hand and I was texting through quite severe rain, so yes, I assume it must have been then that the indicator marks came up. It has worked fine since until this episode last week and it just seemed to die on it's own. I was sending a text at the time, the phone froze so I tried to reset it (power and volume up) and it just boot looped after that.
I'm not aware of any updates in the last week or so; and the phone is rebooting by itself. Even if I leave it for 24 hours then moments after plugging in the chager it tries to boot, lasts a few seconds til the HTC logo screen, then stops and reboots.
I cannot get the phone to link to my PC. As soon as my computer begins to recognise it then the phone reboots and it disconnects from the computer. This rules out the possibility of adding in the .rar file.

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chouman said:
It has worked fine since until this episode last week and it just seemed to die on it's own.
Even if I leave it for 24 hours then moments after plugging in the chager it tries to boot, lasts a few seconds til the HTC logo screen, then stops and reboots.
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Ok, what is 'this episode last week'? The sudden freeze or? And when you connect the charger, does it turn on by itself?
While in the bootloader menu, do you have time to ask the phone to turn off? That way it can charge while off. But if it does not hold battery AT ALL, I think it's a new phone....
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TwinAdk
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Last week was when the phone froze.
I cannot get the phone to shut down, it doesn't give me long enough. Plus, when plugged in the phoje tries to boot without me trying to turn it on, which isn't good either.
I really like(d?) My phone, should I just accept its gone and move on?
My son's old Wildfire is driving me bonkers this now!

Sv: [Q] Boot loop - insurance wont fix as saying it is water damaged
Well, I would say it's toast.. From the given status of the hardware i see no way to recover, without involving a technician. But with water in the game it can be hard to pin down the reason for the behaviour.. I would say the main print since it turns on and off by itself..
Have you tried drying it, and for how long has it been this way? Also, do you have the guts to open up the phone for a diy fix?
Kind Regards
TwinAdk
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TwinAdk said:
Well, I would say it's toast.. From the given status of the hardware i see no way to recover, without involving a technician. But with water in the game it can be hard to pin down the reason for the behaviour.. I would say the main print since it turns on and off by itself..
Have you tried drying it, and for how long has it been this way? Also, do you have the guts to open up the phone for a diy fix?
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TwinAdk
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Hi,
I am in the process of appealing with my insurance company. Their case is that I didn't disclose all the material facts, but I am of the opinion that if it was water damaged at some point, then it has worked for weeks before it decided to play up, so that cannot be the reason. I did put the phone in a sealed box of rice and placed that in the boiler cupboard for 3 days when it was returned by the insurance co. When I took it out it was exactly the same as before. The phone came out on Monday of this week.
I'll wait for the result of my appeal before I pull it apart. Not entirely sure what I would do once in the case, but I'll cross that bridge when I come to it!

Sounds like a plan, post back I have *NO* experience taking these things apart though.

If you need to take it apart its not that bad. I had to dismantle mine when my sons drink spilt all over it and it started rebooting and went into safe mode before I could turn it off. There are videos on youtube to show you how. However if you have dried it as much as you say I am not sure what you can do once in there
Water got all around my SIM and volume controls but all ok once dried out.
Good luck
Sent from my HTC One X

herbie13 said:
If you need to take it apart its not that bad. I had to dismantle mine when my sons drink spilt all over it and it started rebooting and went into safe mode before I could turn it off. There are videos on youtube to show you how. However if you have dried it as much as you say I am not sure what you can do once in there
Water got all around my SIM and volume controls but all ok once dried out.
Good luck
Sent from my HTC One X
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Thanks herbie. I should hear back from my insurance company regarding the appeal I made over the next day or two. Fingers crossed I wont have to resort to pulling the phone apart. Pretty sure that the board is fried, so not sure what I would achieve anyway.
I've still got the phone and have had it in the boiler cupboard again inside a box full of rice, so if nothing else, anything that may have been in there will be long dried up by time I hear back. I'll pull it out after they get back to me.

chouman said:
Thanks herbie. I should hear back from my insurance company regarding the appeal I made over the next day or two. Fingers crossed I wont have to resort to pulling the phone apart. Pretty sure that the board is fried, so not sure what I would achieve anyway.
I've still got the phone and have had it in the boiler cupboard again inside a box full of rice, so if nothing else, anything that may have been in there will be long dried up by time I hear back. I'll pull it out after they get back to me.
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Guys, just want to thank you for your time on this one. I've had a letter through this morning accepting my appeal. They asked me to get a letter from my network confirming that the IMEI of this phone was in use up until the date I said and I sent this in, and I sent this on.
I've just called them and they said that the phone was unrepairable and I should expect contact within 3 working days with either a replacement being sent out (reconditioned phone) or a cash payment to buy a replacement.
Just a few more days with a 3/4 year old HTC Wildfire then back to a speedy One X (or One if they make a cash offer!).

Sv: [Q] Boot loop - insurance wont fix as saying it is water damaged
Thats great Nice that they accepted the appeal. They seems thorough in that they are asking for the imei number and proof of usage, wow
Kind Regards
TwinAdk
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Hi!
Sorry for bumping the topic, but I had the same problem.
The power button was broken, and was constantly pushed in. The device rebooted all by itself, and couldn't charge.
I replaced the power button and it all works like a charm right now!
Sorry for being to late, but I discovered yesterday

Sv: [Q] Boot loop - insurance wont fix as saying it is water damaged
Didn't the constantly pressed power button result in the buttons below the screen flashing? I don't know if the OP experienced this..
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TwinAdk said:
Didn't the constantly pressed power button result in the buttons below the screen flashing? I don't know if the OP experienced this..
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I don't think there was any issue with the power button, but it would make some sense. I did ask what they found to be wrong with the phone and the lady on the phone just said it was unrepairable.
I called again today and I've been told to expect a white 32gb One X to be coming my way (again within 3 days which seems to be their standard response to anything!), so glad it's all over. Hoping to get my wife to take it on to replace her white iPhone 4S which is coming out of contract in a couple of months as she's after something faster and I'll get the new HTC One, but not too confident of pulling that off!

No, my buttons weren't flashing at all, if you try yourself, they aren't flashing too.
Glad it's fixed but I'm pretty sure it was the power button

[Q] HOX overheating after 5-10min

Hello everybody,
my cousin had his (pretty new) HOX plugged to the wall and it charged normally.. But suddenly he noticed a power blackout and pushed his phone out immediately. This event happened 1 week ago.
And now he can use his phone pretty normally, even charge it. The only thing is: It get' s freaking hot after a short period of time and kinda locks or hangs up, that means the phone doesn' t react to the user's interactions..
Also he told me that the notification LED is blinking red/green , but I' m not sure if he meant that it did just after the black out or that it means it is still blinkin'. I can' t check it at the moment, cause he isn' t reachable.. :/
He sounded really worried and I told him this is a case for the warranty and he calmed down now.
Anyways I tought I should give this forum a try, since the most of you are real pro' s .
I appreciate any help. :good:
Regards from Germany,
~Nobody
P.S. Just for my curiosity: What did actually **** up, I mean which phone part? I think it must be the cooler or the processor, since this sounds like the problems you get after overclocking, isn' t?

Red/green blinking means the battery is over heated > 48 c.
Has he tried a factory reset?
If that doesn't help its a warranty job, I wouldn't say anything about what happened and just say its over heating a few of my friends had the issue and the phone got replaced
Sent from my HTC One X using xda app-developers app

I have a simple problem, i think i fried the head phone jack. my phone wont go under 40c lol. after 2 or 3 minutes of use, it jumps to about 50c