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Damaged O2 XDA IIs in UK - advice ?

I got caught in that major downpour on saturday and my BA and Globalsat BT-338 GPS unit got soaked.
I dried them off in the car and tried the BA. It powered on, and on the blue imate screen (I flashed it with a PDA2K image) I saw a very brief bit of corruption on the screen. It got into windows then rebooted.
I got it home, dried some more, tried again. Dead as a doornail.
Put it in the cradle, the red "break call" button was dimly flashing. Not an even flash, a bzzt bzzt "I am shorting" kind of flash.
I immediately pulled it out of the cradle and left it to dry more overnight.
Today I tried it out of the cradle, still dead. Gingerly put it in cradle, the top right light went red (low battery I think this means) but no flashing break light so I left it and it went orange (indicating normal charging) after a while. I powered it on and it works. I still get the same brief bit of corruption just after the serial / rom ID screen on bootup.
It would not sync howver. I tried my lil-sync travel sync lead and that synced. I then had the idea of pulling the power plug out of the back of the cradle and letting it reset. It now syncs in the cradle.
All seemed good I thought. But I soon realised that the power button doesn't work. I cannot turn off the screen. If I hold the button down it toggles the backlight, so the button itself isn't broken, but I don't know what is...
I suppose I will have to call O2 and they will tell me to send it to a repair centre, but that will probably a) take ages and b) possibly cost loads.
I was thinking of taking it to a repair shop but I doubted they would know how to fix a BA. Also they may try to rip me off.
Any suggestions ?
Also if you know the best way of going about getting my globalsat BT-338 GPS repaired also that would be great. When I plug it in to charge the orange charging light flashes briefly but then nothing.

worst come to worst, install something like handymenu and make a quick action link for turn off, then assign that quicklink to one of the buttons to turn it off.
not sure that will work to turn it on though - unless you've worked out another way to do that?

When something gets wer, always take the battery straight out and thouroughly dry the inside with a hairdryer before trying to turn it on again. Probably not much help to you now though
I bet 02 will fix it for about £50.

I don't have a hair dryer - you need hair to make it worth having one and I haven't had any hair in years !
I will give O2 a call and see what they say.

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Take it to O2 just tell them it doesnt work and you dont know whats happened to it... play it dumb... always works for me. they replaced my entire screen with a brand new one for nothing and it only took under a week. It was so obviouse i had dropped it since ther was a clear dent at the top of the BA. only thing is that if they want to charge you for repair and you decide not to go ahead they will charge you to post it back to you.
DJUPLIFT

exactly what i did uplift
posted it in today, fingers crossed...
I think I am defo gonna get insurance if I get it working again, too much worry...

well I sent it in to the official repairers (Anovo) and they sent it back "Fixed under warranty"
Except that it was NOT fixed, it was displaying the exact same fault, which is SO easy to replicate, how the hell can they call it "Fixed" ???
So I call up O2 cust serv and tell them. They asked me to fax in receipt from repairers which I did and they said they would be sending me a brand new handset
Woohoo !

Well i was happy with o2 till i noticed a ****ING crack on the bottom left hand side of the screen. so i went back a week later cos i was working and didnt have time.
Told them that it was sent back to me like that and they basicaly said piss off.... said they couldnt do anything about it that i could have broken it anytime myself... fair enough. So now i have an xda with a cracked screen and anywhere down in the left corner i have to touch about 6mm to the left of
any button to press on it.
So pressing the New button is impossible.
I cant belive how they didnt even question about how the screen stopped working the first time, so why the hell cant they replace it again!?
Im proper pissed off :twisted:
Anyone know anybody that has a dead xda with a working screen id gladly pay good money for it!

annoying, but I would imagine the screen is quite easily replaceable.
It's gonna cost, but better than being left with a paperweight...

You guys are not gonna believe this...
So O2 send the new handset.
When I got it I decided to use my old battery until the new one had charged.
Guess what... same problem !!
IT WASNT THE PHONE IT WAS THE BATTERY !!!
So, if your XDA fails to go into standby mode when you hit the power button - don't suspect the phone, suspect the battery !

evilc said:
exactly what i did uplift
posted it in today, fingers crossed...
I think I am defo gonna get insurance if I get it working again, too much worry...
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if u do, make sure u dont get it wet, cos o22 insurance wont cover water damage.

I can't use O2 insurance anyway, you can only insure with 02 within something like 14 days of purchase.

Got same crack but in the right-hand bottom...
I am using my device in landscape mode while waiting for a reasonably priced spare part donor. Rotating the screen usually helps.
DJUPLIFT said:
Well i was happy with o2 till i noticed a ****ING crack on the bottom left hand side of the screen. so i went back a week later cos i was working and didnt have time.
Told them that it was sent back to me like that and they basicaly said piss off.... said they couldnt do anything about it that i could have broken it anytime myself... fair enough. So now i have an xda with a cracked screen and anywhere down in the left corner i have to touch about 6mm to the left of
any button to press on it.
So pressing the New button is impossible.
I cant belive how they didnt even question about how the screen stopped working the first time, so why the hell cant they replace it again!?
Im proper pissed off :twisted:
Anyone know anybody that has a dead xda with a working screen id gladly pay good money for it!
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Desire bootlooping, but with interesting story

So I dropped my Desire in the toilet while I was drunk the other week, quickly grabbed it out, took the battery out and took it to a repair shop the next morning. He said it would be a minimum 3 days before he could look at it because he said it has to dry out first.
Im guessing he had it in the chemicals for water damage, I dont know and I didnt have to pay. So he rang me 5 days later, said its up and running but it freezes a bit, wanted to let it 'rest' for another day and then I could come in and play with it to see if i was happy with it.
I couldnt come in on the 6th day, but came in on the 7th day and he basically told me the phone didnt make it, it had died and he was glad I didnt come in the day before. Asked if I wanted it back. I said yes because its still under contract. So he told me it would take 15 mins for him to put it all back together. So I had to wait. He returned, put it on the counter the walked off again.
I didnt realise this till later on but there was a little chip that was not there anymore on the front of the handset. I pulled the battery out and it was a bit bulgy and its water sticker was pink. I then compared the phones IMEI to my original box. Different IMEI. I then pulled the handset appart, the liquid stickers inside the handset were all white. So I pulled the charger out, put the dodgy battery in and turned it on.
It bootloops the HTC screen and its very breifly displayed. Like less than a second before it restarts. If I turn it off, the orange LED comes on as if its charging but it never charges. If I pull the battery out with it connected, I get the orange/green led combo. It will load the boot loader screen and can comunicate to the PC, I have tried running the 2.3 update off the HTC Dev site on it again, it successfully loads, but still has the same outcome
Has the phone repair shop done a dodgy on me, with my handset, fixing it, and giving me a stuffed one or is it an honest mistake.
Also if I put a brand new battery in this phone will it work? And should I ring this place up on Monday and ask them what the go is?
I might also add I just got the Sensation, so i'm not too concerned if it never works again.

Dude... If they gave you a different phone, of course you should ring them up and ask them to give you YOUR original phone. It sounds like they scammed you.

... this is a blatant con, they must take you for a retard or something. Go get your phone back before they sell it on.

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dtyson said:
I didnt realise this till later on but there was a little chip that was not there anymore on the front of the handset. I pulled the battery out and it was a bit bulgy and its water sticker was pink. I then compared the phones IMEI to my original box. Different IMEI.
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You have obviously been given a different device. This can be a mistake however. Go back to the store and check with them what's happened.
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yeah, i thought this would be the case, just didnt know if there was any phone shop owners that might say otherwise, and that its a mistake. oh well, guess ill call them tomorrow and ask them what the go is.

[Q] Boot loop - insurance wont fix as saying it is water damaged

Hi, I have looked everywhere to try and get this problem fixed, but haven't found anything to help.
I have a HTC One X which is absolutely stock. I got it on contract last September and have never rooted it/played with it/etc (I wouldn't know what I was doing!). My problem is that it is on a boot loop and I cannot get it to to get beyond the first HTC splash screen. If I hold down the volume down button to get to the boot menu then it runs for around 1.5-2 seconds then reboots again. The details below show where it gets to.
I contacted my insurance company and sent it in and they have told me that the phone has been water damaged and they will not fix it. I am covered for water damage, but as I didn't declare in my insurance form that this was the cause for the failure they will not accept responsibility! The thing is that while I accept that I have used my phone in the rain on a number of times (I'm a keen walker despite the weather), I have never immersed it in water. I can only assume that the indicators have come up because I've used the phone while out walking in the rain. Despite what I say they will not fix the phone and HTC don't want to know because of the indicators, just referring me to my insurer as the water indicators are red. I am obviously hacked off, but surely if the screen isn't a problem and it's booting this far then surely I can get the phone to work?
The display is as follows:
*** LOCKED ***
ENDEAVORU PVT SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT-1.39.0000
CPLD-None
MICROP-None
RADIO-5.1204.162.29
eMMC-bootmode: disabled
CPU-bootmode : disabled
HW Secure Boot: enabled
MODEM PATH : OFF
Dec 17 2012,13:59:37
Battery level is too low to flash
HBOOT
SD Checking...
Failed to open usb master mode
loading PJ461MG.zip image..
Failed to open usb master mode
When I try to charge the phone it just enters a boot loop, lasts about 4/5 seconds then reboots, so I can't see how to get it to do anything else. This means that I cannot flash it/link it to my pc/etc.
Can anybody help me get the phone back up and running so I don't use it as a frisbee?! I am still under contract until September 2014 and would hate to think that I've got to pay for a phone I can't even use!

You can charge it when it boot loops - see here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1738274
That will allow you to charge it to 100%, even though it cant boot.
Next, did you expose it to water, or is the insurance company BS'ing? What happend when the bootlooping started? Any updates (On The Air) that caused it, or anything?
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to get to the boot menu then it runs for around 1.5-2 seconds then reboots again
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Does it reboot by ITSELF, when in the bootloader menu??
Kind Regards
TwinAdk

TwinAdk said:
You can charge it when it boot loops - see here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1738274
That will allow you to charge it to 100%, even though it cant boot.
Next, did you expose it to water, or is the insurance company BS'ing? What happend when the bootlooping started? Any updates (On The Air) that caused it, or anything?
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Does it reboot by ITSELF, when in the bootloader menu??
Kind Regards
TwinAdk
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Thank you for the quick reply.
The phone is not holding any charge at all. I left it to charge for 6 hours yesterday to try and get somewhere with it, but the whole time it was on charge it was rebooting itself and when I unplugged the charger then it booted twice more and gave up as the battery was flat. I assume it was using all of the power coming in to reboot as it went.
I can remember about a month ago that I did have my phone in my hand and I was texting through quite severe rain, so yes, I assume it must have been then that the indicator marks came up. It has worked fine since until this episode last week and it just seemed to die on it's own. I was sending a text at the time, the phone froze so I tried to reset it (power and volume up) and it just boot looped after that.
I'm not aware of any updates in the last week or so; and the phone is rebooting by itself. Even if I leave it for 24 hours then moments after plugging in the chager it tries to boot, lasts a few seconds til the HTC logo screen, then stops and reboots.
I cannot get the phone to link to my PC. As soon as my computer begins to recognise it then the phone reboots and it disconnects from the computer. This rules out the possibility of adding in the .rar file.

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chouman said:
It has worked fine since until this episode last week and it just seemed to die on it's own.
Even if I leave it for 24 hours then moments after plugging in the chager it tries to boot, lasts a few seconds til the HTC logo screen, then stops and reboots.
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Ok, what is 'this episode last week'? The sudden freeze or? And when you connect the charger, does it turn on by itself?
While in the bootloader menu, do you have time to ask the phone to turn off? That way it can charge while off. But if it does not hold battery AT ALL, I think it's a new phone....
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TwinAdk
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Last week was when the phone froze.
I cannot get the phone to shut down, it doesn't give me long enough. Plus, when plugged in the phoje tries to boot without me trying to turn it on, which isn't good either.
I really like(d?) My phone, should I just accept its gone and move on?
My son's old Wildfire is driving me bonkers this now!

Sv: [Q] Boot loop - insurance wont fix as saying it is water damaged
Well, I would say it's toast.. From the given status of the hardware i see no way to recover, without involving a technician. But with water in the game it can be hard to pin down the reason for the behaviour.. I would say the main print since it turns on and off by itself..
Have you tried drying it, and for how long has it been this way? Also, do you have the guts to open up the phone for a diy fix?
Kind Regards
TwinAdk
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TwinAdk said:
Well, I would say it's toast.. From the given status of the hardware i see no way to recover, without involving a technician. But with water in the game it can be hard to pin down the reason for the behaviour.. I would say the main print since it turns on and off by itself..
Have you tried drying it, and for how long has it been this way? Also, do you have the guts to open up the phone for a diy fix?
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TwinAdk
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Hi,
I am in the process of appealing with my insurance company. Their case is that I didn't disclose all the material facts, but I am of the opinion that if it was water damaged at some point, then it has worked for weeks before it decided to play up, so that cannot be the reason. I did put the phone in a sealed box of rice and placed that in the boiler cupboard for 3 days when it was returned by the insurance co. When I took it out it was exactly the same as before. The phone came out on Monday of this week.
I'll wait for the result of my appeal before I pull it apart. Not entirely sure what I would do once in the case, but I'll cross that bridge when I come to it!

Sounds like a plan, post back I have *NO* experience taking these things apart though.

If you need to take it apart its not that bad. I had to dismantle mine when my sons drink spilt all over it and it started rebooting and went into safe mode before I could turn it off. There are videos on youtube to show you how. However if you have dried it as much as you say I am not sure what you can do once in there
Water got all around my SIM and volume controls but all ok once dried out.
Good luck
Sent from my HTC One X

herbie13 said:
If you need to take it apart its not that bad. I had to dismantle mine when my sons drink spilt all over it and it started rebooting and went into safe mode before I could turn it off. There are videos on youtube to show you how. However if you have dried it as much as you say I am not sure what you can do once in there
Water got all around my SIM and volume controls but all ok once dried out.
Good luck
Sent from my HTC One X
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Thanks herbie. I should hear back from my insurance company regarding the appeal I made over the next day or two. Fingers crossed I wont have to resort to pulling the phone apart. Pretty sure that the board is fried, so not sure what I would achieve anyway.
I've still got the phone and have had it in the boiler cupboard again inside a box full of rice, so if nothing else, anything that may have been in there will be long dried up by time I hear back. I'll pull it out after they get back to me.

chouman said:
Thanks herbie. I should hear back from my insurance company regarding the appeal I made over the next day or two. Fingers crossed I wont have to resort to pulling the phone apart. Pretty sure that the board is fried, so not sure what I would achieve anyway.
I've still got the phone and have had it in the boiler cupboard again inside a box full of rice, so if nothing else, anything that may have been in there will be long dried up by time I hear back. I'll pull it out after they get back to me.
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Guys, just want to thank you for your time on this one. I've had a letter through this morning accepting my appeal. They asked me to get a letter from my network confirming that the IMEI of this phone was in use up until the date I said and I sent this in, and I sent this on.
I've just called them and they said that the phone was unrepairable and I should expect contact within 3 working days with either a replacement being sent out (reconditioned phone) or a cash payment to buy a replacement.
Just a few more days with a 3/4 year old HTC Wildfire then back to a speedy One X (or One if they make a cash offer!).

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Thats great Nice that they accepted the appeal. They seems thorough in that they are asking for the imei number and proof of usage, wow
Kind Regards
TwinAdk
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Hi!
Sorry for bumping the topic, but I had the same problem.
The power button was broken, and was constantly pushed in. The device rebooted all by itself, and couldn't charge.
I replaced the power button and it all works like a charm right now!
Sorry for being to late, but I discovered yesterday

Sv: [Q] Boot loop - insurance wont fix as saying it is water damaged
Didn't the constantly pressed power button result in the buttons below the screen flashing? I don't know if the OP experienced this..
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TwinAdk
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TwinAdk said:
Didn't the constantly pressed power button result in the buttons below the screen flashing? I don't know if the OP experienced this..
Kind Regards
TwinAdk
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I don't think there was any issue with the power button, but it would make some sense. I did ask what they found to be wrong with the phone and the lady on the phone just said it was unrepairable.
I called again today and I've been told to expect a white 32gb One X to be coming my way (again within 3 days which seems to be their standard response to anything!), so glad it's all over. Hoping to get my wife to take it on to replace her white iPhone 4S which is coming out of contract in a couple of months as she's after something faster and I'll get the new HTC One, but not too confident of pulling that off!

No, my buttons weren't flashing at all, if you try yourself, they aren't flashing too.
Glad it's fixed but I'm pretty sure it was the power button

HTC Desire fell in water, now won't boot.

Hi, my apologies if my HTC is in the wrong forum, not sure where the Desire would fit, if anywhere.
Nonetheless this is a useful phone to me and worked fine till the day I had to jump in a lake to save my 5 year old boy from drowning. Naturally didn't have the time to remove the phone from my pocket before jumping in the lake. Kid was fine after swallowing some water but phone "swallowed" a lot of water. Let it dry in a bag of rice and baking soda for several days to fully dry. But when trying to turn it on, the screen just flickers non stop. However when connecting it to the computer using a USB cable, I get what appears to be a boot screen (see pic in address below). Phone was rooted and run CyanogenMod 7. Maybe someone that's familiar with the procedure could guide me? Tried a couple of the options shown but to no avail. Old but still decent phone, would like to get it working again. I've transferred the sim to another phone and I've saved the micro SD card. Just need to get the phone to boot again. PS: could the battery be toast? Maybe it got shorted when I first tried to turn the phone on while still wet?
Any help is appreciated.
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I'd say leave it to dry naturally for a week or so and try again. If no joy then you could try a new screen but it's probably something really tiny and sensitive that cannot be replaced..
Glad you saved your boy!.
Sent from a stolen HTC M9

It's been 2 months. But I did make a crucial mistake: I tried to turn the phone on while still at the lake. This likely caused more damage than it needed.
However I suspect the issue is with the battery. It won't charge past 3.85 volts. And the display works just fine, once I press the key combo to enter the boot screen as seen in the pic above. Will try and track one down locally, hopefully a shop will be able to test it a battery in the phone before I buy it.
And yes, the boy was fine. But it was a close call. it is amazing how quickly something can go wrong. I neglected the lake rule of staying within arm's reach. Let this be a lesson to anyone with small ones: it only takes seconds for things to go badly wrong, even at a supposedly safe, man made lake intended for kids.
PS: 2 months prior an adult died on the same lake after falling off his boat. Another lesson: invest in swimming lessons. Scary stuff, indeed.

Right, i thought you were seeing that over usb via sdk or something.. You could always try opening it and inspecting for blown components. What damage can be done.. It's already useless.
I still think it's worth leaving it to dry naturally.
Sent from a stolen HTC M9

Flooded phone, working screen but not charging

Hey guys,
So i flooded my phone, dried it, left in rice for 2 days and now when i connect it to my charger the screen goes up after a minute or so but its not charging. My screen shows battery icon with a bolt inside and a zero below, or battery with a cable inside and zero below. Any idea what can i do to fix this? I can boot to bootloarder mode, but when I'm trying to boot to recovery/other modes it goes back to 'charging screen'.
Thanks in advance!

The battery is eeprom controlled so you probably damaged it when teaching the phone to swim. Flashing will do nothing for it.
Putting the phone in rice is a bad idea as it isn't as absorbent as you think. You should have left it over a radiator for a week or so to evaporate the water before even thinking about switching it on, but by then the damage was probably already done.
If it doesnt start working in week or so then expect it to be expensive to fix.
Beamed in by telepathy.

Not sure what eeprom is, but if its in the part below, then i could replace it myself with no problem. What are Your thougts? I know that more thing may be broken, but if it would go back to life i would be glad because I don't want to spend money on any new phone, maybe apart from S8/pixel but its expensive as hell.
https://e.allegroimg.com/original/0115f6/28e0dc9447338f8114880dfb6c1e
If i couldn't repair this bad boy then I would probably go with 6s, but I'm not sure if I want to make the transition to iOS.
Cheers and thanks for previous reply