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With todays rumored start of the OTA for the Dinc I have a question as to how to go about things. When the leaked 2.2 came out I flashed my radio and updated to the leaked 2.2, had the typical problems everyone else did but instead of going through all of the fixes went back to stock 2.1. So I'm back to firmware 2.1-update1 baseband 1.000.03.04.06. My question is this. Unrevoked posted a tweet last night/early this morning saying to be sure to use Unrevoked Forever before any OTAs. So, at risk of goofing something up what steps do I need to take to be ready for the OTA?
Root using Unrevoked 3.1
Use Unrevoked Forever
Wait for OTA
Sound about right? But if I do those things will I be able to apply the OTA without issue? Or is the general idea to not apply 2.2 until Unrevoked has come out with a modified 2.2 OTA. I'm honestly not too worried about root as I know that Unrevoked will eventually, if not soon after the update, come out with something for rooting 2.2.
Also, if I do these things and return to Stock, S-ON will be there still, can I then take the update normally without issue, then simply wait on Unrevoked to root 2.2? So many things going on, not sure which way to go.
I looked over the forums and didn't see any similar questions being asked, so if I missed something please disregard.
You need to have s-off before you apply the 2.2 OTA update or you will loose Root perm until they figure out a way to reroot. If you have S-off even if you take a OTA that has not been rooted, you can simply flash a new recovery that allows you to install su, and use that to restore yourself to a fully rooted system.
I got this information from http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/forever I take no credit for it.
The steps you described will enable you to root after the OTA update. Just make sure that you have the latest radio before you update.
Keep in mind that there is currently no way to revert from s-off at the moment so if your goal is to have a 2.2 factory image, just sit tight and wait for the update.
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Hatman41 said:
You need to have s-off before you apply the 2.2 OTA update or you will loose Root perm until they figure out a way to reroot. If you have S-off even if you take a OTA that has not been rooted, you can simply flash a new recovery that allows you to install su, and use that to restore yourself to a fully rooted system.
I got this information from http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/forever I take no credit for it.
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OK, forgive the stupid question. It's early, I didn't sleep, so I NEED to run Unrevoked Forever, period, before the OTA, otherwise I'm at the mercy of someone discovering a root method for 2.2, which may or may not take forever, yea?
Yes that is what I have read that the 2.2 OTA will plug up the current root process just like it did for the EVO.
If you want root, you install unrevoked forever.
If you are worried about being able to revert to stock image for warranty reasons or otherwise, check Berzerker7's post in the development thread to downgrade. According to him you will have stock and VZW techs dont have a way for checking for s-off
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Hatman41 said:
Yes that is what I have read that the 2.2 OTA will plug up the current root process just like it did for the EVO.
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OK so here's what I've got so far, and thanks for the help =)
•Run Unrevoked 3.1
•Run Unrevoked Forever
•Reflash back to Stock 2.1
•Apply official OTA
•Apply custom recovery
•Install su
Sound right?
I just found this about the OTA http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7728407&postcount=3386
Assuming you are on 2.1 with clockwork and s-off: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7660617&postcount=5
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So could I follow the steps I outlined before and be ok?
•Run Unrevoked 3.1
•Run Unrevoked Forever
•Reflash back to Stock 2.1
•Apply official OTA
•Apply custom recovery
•Install su
Yes you should be fine if you do that.
Hatman41 said:
Yes you should be fine if you do that.
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OK, thanks a lot for the help guys. I feel better going into this now =)
Now all we need is the OTA.
I am a bit confused. I am urnning radio 2.15 (latest) with SkyRaider 2.5.2 and Clockwork recovery and S-OFF.
How do i go about getting stock radio and stock ROM? Also, can the stock rom be rooted or no when flashing OTA?
Thanks!
rulevoid said:
I am a bit confused. I am urnning radio 2.15 (latest) with SkyRaider 2.5.2 and Clockwork recovery and S-OFF.
How do i go about getting stock radio and stock ROM? Also, can the stock rom be rooted or no when flashing OTA?
Thanks!
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Read http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=757927 to revert back to the stock radio and stock ROM. As you have S-OFF once you have intalled the OTA then just flash the custom recovery that Unrevoked has supplied http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/forever and apply SU and then you are rooted again.
lamusician said:
If you want root, you install unrevoked forever.
If you are worried about being able to revert to stock image for warranty reasons or otherwise, check Berzerker7's post in the development thread to downgrade. According to him you will have stock and VZW techs dont have a way for checking for s-off
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Well if HBOOT still runs, they can just power it up and look for it to say S-OFF at the top.
Yup
sryan2k1 said:
Well if HBOOT still runs, they can just power it up and look for it to say S-OFF at the top.
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This is the dilemma ... I honestly do not know what I intend to do.
I'm ready to root and I've been reading and reading and reading and reading and I just don't understand how to root. I need a dummy proof way a step by step system to get this done. I know that my hboot is 0.97.0000. Someone please help me. I ready just need a more detailed root method. Thanks
Try this and skip the ota if you want to keep 0.97. http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/forever You can later flash the latest ota ruu in recovery
Unrevoked Forever doesn't root the phone. It does NAND unlock (S-OFF) which allows you to flash custom ROMs.
You said your HBOOT is 0.97, so you can probably use Unrevoked 3.21/3.22 one click root to root your phone.
[ROOT] unrEVOked 3.21: one-click root for Froyo, no downgrading
[GUIDE] One Click How to Root EVO with Unrevoked 3.21 *NEW EVO'S WONT WORK 11.16.10*
Will I be able to use wireless tethering
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Once you are rooted, you can download the Wireless Tethering app from market.
need help rooting evo with software number 3.29.651.5, I have seen many videos and read alot but found none for this build. Please help.....
use unrevoked
i need help as well...but I have 3.30.651.3. Just bought it 20 mins ago
+1 easiest method for 3.29 and 3.30 is use unrevoked 3.21 also change recovery at the time of root to RA.
Follow below steps, but also download last anon_ra recovery( put on desktop or a location you will remember). So when you get to the reflash step, go to file select customer recovery and chose anon_ra rather than clockworks.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=787304
chaoticallysweet said:
+1 easiest method for 3.29 and 3.30 is use unrevoked 3.21 also change recovery at the time of root to RA.
Follow below steps, but also download last anon_ra recovery( put on desktop or a location you will remember). So when you get to the reflash step, go to file select customer recovery and chose anon_ra rather than clockworks.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=787304
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Pretty sure unrevoked currently does not work for 3.30.
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Pretty sure unrevoked currently does not work for 3.30.
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I thought it didn't work for 3.70?
correct unrevoked 3.21 and 3.22 work for all evo's except for 3.70
So which method should I use?
NewZJ said:
correct unrevoked 3.21 and 3.22 work for all evo's except for 3.70
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+1 I rooted my friends and she had 3.30 with unrevoked.
Any way to root HTC Evo 2.2 droid on 3.70 Build??
Is there any method whatso ever that has been tested to root Evo 2.2 droid on 3.70 Build?
chaoticallysweet said:
+1 I rooted my friends and she had 3.30 with unrevoked.
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This is good to know, my buddy has been waiting for me to root his but I was waiting on unrevoked. I had no idea it worked with 3.30 evos.
So I can do the unrevoked on mine. Awesome will try in the morning. Is it easier on a 3.30 or a 3.70 Rom. Cause I can update if need be.
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Hey well I am rooted by using zikronix method he posted HERE. The unrevoked apparantly doesn't like when you have a hardware of 004 like I have so I didn't try that one....reading a lot helps lol. All those steps reminded me when I rooted my Hero a yr ago!!
I was pretty sure unrvoked didn't work for 3.30 because it had the new hboot? Report back if it works. Doubt it though. I would define tally use zikronix method. Had plenty of successful roots there. Very good.
doeboy1984 said:
So I can do the unrevoked on mine. Awesome will try in the morning. Is it easier on a 3.30 or a 3.70 Rom. Cause I can update if need be.
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on 3.30 if you update you will need to use z4root, not unrevoked. Keep it on 3.30
not just z4root. that is part of the method, but then you need to flash the misc with the engineering build before flashing into a rooted rom in order to turn s-off with unrevoked-forever then flashing up to a alternate recovery. so yeah stay with 3.30
I am having a stupid hard time downgrading my Girlfriend's Incredible to install a custom ROM. I tried UnRevoked 3.22 with the custom CWM and all kinds of different instructions from various sites. My question is: If I factory reset it from the bootloader, does it downgrade it back to 2.1?
No, factory reset just deletes your data. What is your phone setup, Android version, have you unlocked it through the HTC website (if not, DON'T do it), etc?
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No, factory reset just deletes your data. What is your phone setup, Android version, have you unlocked it through the HTC website (if not, DON'T do it), etc?
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She's on the newest OTA. I wanna say 2.3.6. And, no it has not been unlocked. When I use the newest UnRevoked, it says the firmware is too new. When I try to using UnRevoked 3.22 it says the same.
I'm in the same boat, have a Droid Inc that has a newer radio that seems to be not supported, none of the unrevoked apps will root it.
It does have an unlocked bootloader and is S-OFF.. unlocked the bootloader after the rooting methods kept failing.. is that bad?
You need to use the adb method to get s-off and root if the rev 3.22 isn't working. I did it and all is just fine.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1306400
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http://androidforums.com/incredible-all-things-root/427344-how-root-2-3-4-downgrade-get-s-off.html
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normanx said:
You need to use the adb method to get s-off and root if the rev 3.22 isn't working. I did it and all is just fine.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1306400
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Thank you! Gonna try it ASAP!
No problem, have any issues just ask....
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No problem, have any issues just ask....
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Everything's great so far! Custom ROM and everything. Thank you very much, man.
No problem. Glad it worked for ya.
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Took it to a repair shop and instead of repairing they gave me a replacement.
v2.3.5
baseband 2.15.00.12.19
build 4.67.651.3
software 4.67.651.3
pri 2.33_003
prl 60685
last time I rooted was with unrevoked forever. the new method is revolutionary right?
lostsoul77 said:
Took it to a repair shop and instead of repairing they gave me a replacement.
v2.3.5
baseband 2.15.00.12.19
build 4.67.651.3
software 4.67.651.3
pri 2.33_003
prl 60685
last time I rooted was with unrevoked forever. the new method is revolutionary right?
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since your on 2.3.5 you most likely have hboot 2.18. Your root method is going to be HTCdev.com. After you s-on unlocked with HTC dev you can either downgrade to a earlier version like froyo or GB and root with unrevoked or revolutionary or you can stay s-on unlocked but lose out on certain things because you wont be fully NAND unlocked(s-off) just unlocked s-on
lostsoul77 said:
Took it to a repair shop and instead of repairing they gave me a replacement.
v2.3.5
baseband 2.15.00.12.19
build 4.67.651.3
software 4.67.651.3
pri 2.33_003
prl 60685
last time I rooted was with unrevoked forever. the new method is revolutionary right?
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HBOOT IS 2.18.0001 which revolutionary doesn't appear to support. Also highlighted in pink it is displaying *** LOCKED (OOW) ***
I have a feeling someone is going to tell me it cant be rooted....
lostsoul77 said:
HBOOT IS 2.18.0001 which revolutionary doesn't appear to support. Also highlighted in pink it is displaying *** LOCKED (OOW) ***
I have a feeling someone is going to tell me it cant be rooted....
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Have to use HTCdev.com to s-on unlock then flash recovery through fastboot then superuser binaries and superuser zip
heres a guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1473373
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evo4gnoob said:
Have to use HTCdev.com to s-on unlock then flash recovery through fastboot then superuser binaries and superuser zip
heres a guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1473373
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do i need to downgrade my hboot? revolutionary site only gives 2.15.0001 and 2.16.0001 as options. I did the the s-on unlock successfully.
lostsoul77 said:
do i need to downgrade my hboot? revolutionary site only gives 2.15.0001 and 2.16.0001 as options. I did the the s-on unlock successfully.
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up to you. Do you want to downgrade to Froyo to use unrevoked or GB to use revoltuionary. You can flash roms with s-on unlocked just miss out on some perks S-OFF users have
evo4gnoob said:
up to you. Do you want to downgrade to Froyo to use unrevoked or GB to use revoltuionary. You can flash roms with s-on unlocked just miss out on some perks S-OFF users have
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I would rather use revolutionary as I've rooted a few other people's evo's with that method and it went fairly smooth. What im confused about is the hboot. I have to get the hboot to atleast 2.16.0001 and simply flashing a GB rom won't do that right? So do I need to find the radio thread and find an hboot file and can I even downgrade the hboot from 2.18 to 2.16 in order to use revolutionary to obtain s-off so that i can go back to what i was used to?
lostsoul77 said:
I would rather use revolutionary as I've rooted a few other people's evo's with that method and it went fairly smooth. What im confused about is the hboot. I have to get the hboot to atleast 2.16.0001 and simply flashing a GB rom won't do that right? So do I need to find the radio thread and find an hboot file and can I even downgrade the hboot from 2.18 to 2.16 in order to use revolutionary to obtain s-off so that i can go back to what i was used to?
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Simply flashing a rom wont affect radios ect. With S-on unlocked you CANT flash radios or hboots so you have to do a certain process in order to downgrade. You have to follow these steps exactly in order to downgrade. http://themikmik.com/showthread.php...18-HBOOT-with-HTCDev-com-No-More-Watermark!-)
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Simply flashing a rom wont affect radios ect. With S-on unlocked you CANT flash radios or hboots so you have to do a certain process in order to downgrade. You have to follow these steps exactly in order to downgrade. http://themikmik.com/showthread.php...18-HBOOT-with-HTCDev-com-No-More-Watermark!-)
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Thanks so much for your help Evo4gnoob! i'm almost back to where i need to be. currently pushing recovery again via unrevoked.
lostsoul77 said:
Thanks so much for your help Evo4gnoob! i'm almost back to where i need to be. currently pushing recovery again via unrevoked.
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spoke too soon, having problems pushing recovery with unrevoked. says installing unrevoked3 service and been like that for 5mins
Not trying to sound like an A-Hole here, but what you have to do is exactly what evo4gnoob saays. Theres certain steps you have to take. evo helped me root my device with the exact same setup you have flawlessly. Hes pretty sharp. Take his advice and let him teach you.
drlzanej said:
Not trying to sound like an A-Hole here, but what you have to do is exactly what evo4gnoob saays. Theres certain steps you have to take. evo helped me root my device with the exact same setup you have flawlessly. Hes pretty sharp. Take his advice and let him teach you.
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I have it to where it is currently running Froyo. I followed all of the instructions. I'm not trying to root it using unrevoked as after downgrading, the root access was taken away. The unrevoked app pushes the recovery and sits at a status of "installing unrevoked3 service..." and never finishes. That's where i'm stuck at. I'm not new to rooting, just didn't have to go about it this way the last time. If unrevoked keeps failing, then I will give revolutionary a try if it supports froyo.
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I have it to where it is currently running Froyo. I followed all of the instructions. I'm not trying to root it using unrevoked as after downgrading, the root access was taken away. The unrevoked app pushes the recovery and sits at a status of "installing unrevoked3 service..." and never finishes. That's where i'm stuck at. I'm not new to rooting, just didn't have to go about it this way the last time. If unrevoked keeps failing, then I will give revolutionary a try if it supports froyo.
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I've never used unrevoked so I have no idea how it works. Always felt that revolutionary was more simpler. Revolutionary only supports hboot 2.16 and 2.15 so you can take a ota just make sure its not the 4.67 ota
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evo4gnoob said:
I've never used unrevoked so I have no idea how it works. Always felt that revolutionary was more simpler. Revolutionary only supports hboot 2.16 and 2.15 so you can take a ota just make sure its not the 4.67 ota
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I did the OTA which upgraded me to 2.33 and hboot 2.16 and tried running revolutionary. Installed the fast boot drivers as well. receiving this error:
Zerging Root... this might take a minute or so.. rawadb_open: remote closed the
connection looking for target "sync:"
Communications with phone unexpectedly interrupted. Try again.
Press (almost) any key to exit.
There is nothing using any usb port. This is becoming frustrating now
lostsoul77 said:
I did the OTA which upgraded me to 2.33 and hboot 2.16 and tried running revolutionary. Installed the fast boot drivers as well. receiving this error:
Zerging Root... this might take a minute or so.. rawadb_open: remote closed the
connection looking for target "sync:"
Communications with phone unexpectedly interrupted. Try again.
Press (almost) any key to exit.
There is nothing using any usb port. This is becoming frustrating now
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finally got it! had to reinstall the drivers.
Hell yeah, Are you s-on or s-off. as stated by evo4gnoob earlier, there are more advantages to s-off. flashing kernells,radios and such. Makes for a much more enjoyable expierience as far as flashing and moding,,,Later
drlzanej said:
Hell yeah, Are you s-on or s-off. as stated by evo4gnoob earlier, there are more advantages to s-off. flashing kernells,radios and such. Makes for a much more enjoyable expierience as far as flashing and moding,,,Later
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s-off, latest radios, and running MikG3.11...rooted with revolutionary after the long process of downgrading to froyo and upgrading to GB; unrevoked simply wasnt working correctly. An unrooted phone is just wrong on so many levels! LOL! Thank you guys much for all of your help! It's members like you who make this forum so great!
you can use htcdev to get s-off then use revolutionary to gain root.
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you can use htcdev to get s-off then use revolutionary to gain root.
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htcdev does not give you s-off and revolutionary doesnt give you root it just s-offs you and installs a custom recovery
evo4gnoob said:
htcdev does not give you s-off and revolutionary doesnt give you root it just s-offs you and installs a custom recovery
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HTCDEV unlocks the bootloader
revolutionary and unrevoked give you root and s-off. I used revolutionary and I definetly have root as well as s-off.