With todays rumored start of the OTA for the Dinc I have a question as to how to go about things. When the leaked 2.2 came out I flashed my radio and updated to the leaked 2.2, had the typical problems everyone else did but instead of going through all of the fixes went back to stock 2.1. So I'm back to firmware 2.1-update1 baseband 1.000.03.04.06. My question is this. Unrevoked posted a tweet last night/early this morning saying to be sure to use Unrevoked Forever before any OTAs. So, at risk of goofing something up what steps do I need to take to be ready for the OTA?
Root using Unrevoked 3.1
Use Unrevoked Forever
Wait for OTA
Sound about right? But if I do those things will I be able to apply the OTA without issue? Or is the general idea to not apply 2.2 until Unrevoked has come out with a modified 2.2 OTA. I'm honestly not too worried about root as I know that Unrevoked will eventually, if not soon after the update, come out with something for rooting 2.2.
Also, if I do these things and return to Stock, S-ON will be there still, can I then take the update normally without issue, then simply wait on Unrevoked to root 2.2? So many things going on, not sure which way to go.
I looked over the forums and didn't see any similar questions being asked, so if I missed something please disregard.
You need to have s-off before you apply the 2.2 OTA update or you will loose Root perm until they figure out a way to reroot. If you have S-off even if you take a OTA that has not been rooted, you can simply flash a new recovery that allows you to install su, and use that to restore yourself to a fully rooted system.
I got this information from http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/forever I take no credit for it.
The steps you described will enable you to root after the OTA update. Just make sure that you have the latest radio before you update.
Keep in mind that there is currently no way to revert from s-off at the moment so if your goal is to have a 2.2 factory image, just sit tight and wait for the update.
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Hatman41 said:
You need to have s-off before you apply the 2.2 OTA update or you will loose Root perm until they figure out a way to reroot. If you have S-off even if you take a OTA that has not been rooted, you can simply flash a new recovery that allows you to install su, and use that to restore yourself to a fully rooted system.
I got this information from http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/forever I take no credit for it.
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OK, forgive the stupid question. It's early, I didn't sleep, so I NEED to run Unrevoked Forever, period, before the OTA, otherwise I'm at the mercy of someone discovering a root method for 2.2, which may or may not take forever, yea?
Yes that is what I have read that the 2.2 OTA will plug up the current root process just like it did for the EVO.
If you want root, you install unrevoked forever.
If you are worried about being able to revert to stock image for warranty reasons or otherwise, check Berzerker7's post in the development thread to downgrade. According to him you will have stock and VZW techs dont have a way for checking for s-off
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Hatman41 said:
Yes that is what I have read that the 2.2 OTA will plug up the current root process just like it did for the EVO.
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OK so here's what I've got so far, and thanks for the help =)
•Run Unrevoked 3.1
•Run Unrevoked Forever
•Reflash back to Stock 2.1
•Apply official OTA
•Apply custom recovery
•Install su
Sound right?
I just found this about the OTA http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7728407&postcount=3386
Assuming you are on 2.1 with clockwork and s-off: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7660617&postcount=5
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So could I follow the steps I outlined before and be ok?
•Run Unrevoked 3.1
•Run Unrevoked Forever
•Reflash back to Stock 2.1
•Apply official OTA
•Apply custom recovery
•Install su
Yes you should be fine if you do that.
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Yes you should be fine if you do that.
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OK, thanks a lot for the help guys. I feel better going into this now =)
Now all we need is the OTA.
I am a bit confused. I am urnning radio 2.15 (latest) with SkyRaider 2.5.2 and Clockwork recovery and S-OFF.
How do i go about getting stock radio and stock ROM? Also, can the stock rom be rooted or no when flashing OTA?
Thanks!
rulevoid said:
I am a bit confused. I am urnning radio 2.15 (latest) with SkyRaider 2.5.2 and Clockwork recovery and S-OFF.
How do i go about getting stock radio and stock ROM? Also, can the stock rom be rooted or no when flashing OTA?
Thanks!
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Read http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=757927 to revert back to the stock radio and stock ROM. As you have S-OFF once you have intalled the OTA then just flash the custom recovery that Unrevoked has supplied http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/forever and apply SU and then you are rooted again.
lamusician said:
If you want root, you install unrevoked forever.
If you are worried about being able to revert to stock image for warranty reasons or otherwise, check Berzerker7's post in the development thread to downgrade. According to him you will have stock and VZW techs dont have a way for checking for s-off
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Well if HBOOT still runs, they can just power it up and look for it to say S-OFF at the top.
Yup
sryan2k1 said:
Well if HBOOT still runs, they can just power it up and look for it to say S-OFF at the top.
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This is the dilemma ... I honestly do not know what I intend to do.
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Hey guys, seems i dove into all of this a little too quick and now i find myself quite lost...
my phone is currently rooted, running stock 2.1update1 with the 2.05 radio update installed and Hboot 0.79. i flashed skyraider 2.2 but ended up flashing back to stock.
now unrevoked forever came out and is promising root after the official 2.2 update which is something i would obviously like to have, so here is where im lost.
i want to be 100% able to update to official 2.2 as soon as its released as well as re-root if possible, and im just not sure how to do that. im not sure if my Hboot and radio versions will prevent the official OTA update or not. and if thats the case, what do i need to do to revert back to whatever i need to in order to receive the official OTA?
and should i run unrevoked forever as well to retain the rootability knowing that the official 2.2 update is my main concern?
thanks for anyone who clarifies guys!
jdkoreclipse said:
Unrevoked forever wont mess up root. The only thing that will bork root is a modded otacerts file
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huh? im concerned with messing up my official OTA, not root. care to clarify?
thanks!
does any one know where i can find a stock PC36IMG.zip that is rooted for the latest ota
http://goo-inside.me/evo/stock/ruu/ download the 3.70 .zip one.
dkdude36 said:
http://goo-inside.me/evo/stock/ruu/ download the 3.70 .zip one.
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Aren't those completely stock and not rooted?
If you want a stock rooted PC36IMG, your best bet would be the Sprint Lovers ROM. It's about 99.9% stock and comes as a PC36IMG.
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I know for a fact that these are rooted versions of the 3.70 OTA because I have personally flashed both the ODEXED and DEODEXED versions.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=874251
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=874251
or Sprint Lovers or Ricism78s Stock Turbo.
Edit: Beat me to it and I have flashed both too.
oh didn't see 'rooted' my bad.
jstalford said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=874251
or Sprint Lovers or Ricism78s Stock Turbo.
Edit: Beat me to it and I have flashed both too.
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lol....It's all good, my friend.
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dkdude36 said:
oh didn't see 'rooted' my bad.
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I'm usually the one guilty of missing something....lol....Whew! I feel better now........I'm just having fun, my friend.
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lol. yea i should read better man so dissapointed...
thanks for the help, sprint lover rom it is
I highly recommend you download and flash the stock ODEXED 3.70 rom listed in the link I provided earlier if you want "exactly" the rom you had when you purchased your EVO (rooted, of course).
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Do I need to install one of these to complete an OTA update?
jstalford said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=874251
or Sprint Lovers or Ricism78s Stock Turbo.
Edit: Beat me to it and I have flashed both too.
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I am totally new to xda, though fairly technically adept with years of Linux experience, which is to say, I am not clueless, but I'm totally lost with this.
I rooted my evo with unrevoked3. I installed unrevoked-forever. I did not install a custom ROM (unless one of the above processes installed one for me). I tried to install the 4.22.651.2 update OTA, but after the progress bar got a third of the way, the package on the screen turned into a warning symbol + android, and just stayed there until I did a battery pull.
I am clueless as to what to do next to allow the OTA update to install. Do I need to install one of the above? Do I need to S-on?
artie-chimney said:
I am totally new to xda, though fairly technically adept with years of Linux experience, which is to say, I am not clueless, but I'm totally lost with this.
I rooted my evo with unrevoked3. I installed unrevoked-forever. I did not install a custom ROM (unless one of the above processes installed one for me). I tried to install the 4.22.651.2 update OTA, but after the progress bar got a third of the way, the package on the screen turned into a warning symbol + android, and just stayed there until I did a battery pull.
I am clueless as to what to do next to allow the OTA update to install. Do I need to install one of the above? Do I need to S-on?
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you need s-on and to unroot.
Thanks
I suppose I unroot by installing the stock PC36IMG.zip?
artie-chimney said:
I suppose I unroot by installing the stock PC36IMG.zip?
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yep. but make sure to flash the unrevoked s-on tool first. otherwise, you will be stuck with no recovery and an unrooted rom but with s-off.
dkdude36 said:
yep. but make sure to flash the unrevoked s-on tool first. otherwise, you will be stuck with no recovery and an unrooted rom but with s-off.
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...but if you want to be rooted, just flash the rooted version of the stock rom. You can keep s-off, that way if you change your mind and want to go back to root, you can just flash recovery and then flash a rom. If you don't want to be rooted anymore, or don't mind waiting for a root exploit, go ahead and flash the s-on zip. At the moment Unrevoked, or anything else for that matter, can not root the OTA if you're s-on.
(from... Evo/MIUI/Tapatalk)
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...but if you want to be rooted, just flash the rooted version of the stock rom. You can keep s-off, that way if you change your mind and want to go back to root, you can just flash recovery and then flash a rom. If you don't want to be rooted anymore, or don't mind waiting for a root exploit, go ahead and flash the s-on zip. At the moment Unrevoked, or anything else for that matter, can not root the OTA if you're s-on.
(from... Evo/MIUI/Tapatalk)
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Ahhh... So I won't be able to be rooted and use the OTA update for now? I thought I could unroot, install the update, and root again.
I don't use any custom ROMs. Heck, I haven't even changed the original wallpaper. I rooted just for Wireless Tether, Titanium Backup and to use the Root Uninstaller to get rid of the pre-installed apps I didn't want.
I really appreciate the help. I am less confused about the process now, but more confused about aligning my technical goals with what I want to do with my phone.
No. If you unroot and install the OTA, you cannot root again. There is no method yet.
You're best bet is to stay rooted and flash the Stock/Rooted ROM
Okay long story short...Replaced my EVO 3 months ago. Used unrevoked to root and have been on Miui for quite some time...
I want to flash the newest radio/wiimax/PRI ect but when I went into Bootloader to flash the PC36img.zip nothing happened. The bootloader finds the img file but nothing else happens. I then noticed that it says S-ON.
I'm confused. I thought in order to be rooted you have to be S-off? If that is the case how can I flash any rom I want? I also have AMON 2.3 recovery flashed as well...
Also, I would like to get to S-off so if I follow this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829045 Will it work? Can I follow this guide with how my phone is now or do I have to unroot first? Thanks in advance.
Starzboy77 said:
Okay long story short...Replaced my EVO 3 months ago. Used unrevoked to root and have been on Miui for quite some time...
I want to flash the newest radio/wiimax/PRI ect but when I went into Bootloader to flash the PC36img.zip nothing happened. The bootloader finds the img file but nothing else happens. I then noticed that it says S-ON.
I'm confused. I thought in order to be rooted you have to be S-off? If that is the case how can I flash any rom I want? I also have AMON 2.3 recovery flashed as well...
Also, I would like to get to S-off so if I follow this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829045 Will it work? Can I follow this guide with how my phone is now or do I have to unroot first? Thanks in advance.
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The original Unrevoked 3.1 came out and could root the EVO before they released Unrevoked Forever. I think all you need to do is go check out the Unrevoked Forever site (http://www.unrevoked.com/forever) and you should be able to S-OFF your rooted EVO so that the bootloader will be able to apply the PC36IMG.zip files.
I thought in order to be rooted you have to be S-off?
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Correct. Possibly you got unrooted by trying to flash the new ota.
tpbklake said:
The original Unrevoked 3.1 came out and could root the EVO before they released Unrevoked Forever. I think all you need to do is go check out the Unrevoked Forever site (http://www.unrevoked.com/forever) and you should be able to S-OFF your rooted EVO so that the bootloader will be able to apply the PC36IMG.zip files.
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Thank you so much! I am now S-off by running the Unrevoked Forever.Zip file. Flashing radios now. Thanks again! I assume that I'll have to flash a Sense ROM to update profile after I flash the radios?
yup.
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I have the same issue. I am fully rooted but s-on. Im guessing it happened when i flashed the latest radio update.
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Correct. Possibly you got unrooted by trying to flash the new ota.
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Wrong. S off is just the security setting. It has no correlation with being rooted. You can be rooted and still be s on like the op.
S off only enables the hboot to flash unsigned/unofficial images to the partitions. S off also allows the system to be written to while android is booted.
The unrevoked forever instructions even state you need to be rooted and have a custom recovery in order to set s off.
lovethyEVO said:
Wrong. S off is just the security setting. It has no correlation with being rooted. You can be rooted and still be s on like the op.
S off only enables the hboot to flash unsigned/unofficial images to the partitions. S off also allows the system to be written to while android is booted.
The unrevoked forever instructions even state you need to be rooted and have a custom recovery in order to set s off.
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Very good post. There is alot of misconception about this. Glad someone cleared it up
How can I get the original software that came with my HTC Evo 4g with sprint?
I can honestly say that XDA is the Bomb-beeezy!lol Means "Its the Bomb! *****!" lol!
So I am asking this question and I scroll up related to my question there they are?? Hell Yeaaa!! thats what I am talking about!! Good Stuff XDA!! Thank you! at the same time? lol
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How can I get the original software that came with my HTC Evo 4g with sprint?
I can honestly say that XDA is the Bomb-beeezy!lol Means "Its the Bomb! *****!" lol!
So I am asking this question and I scroll up related to my question there they are?? Hell Yeaaa!! thats what I am talking about!! Good Stuff XDA!! Thank you! at the same time? lol
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To get the stock stuff just run the latest RUU. Please note that the latest OTA update is currently NOT rootable. I'm not sure if flashing an RUU put your phone back to "s-on". You may want to try running the latest 2.2 based RUU first since that can be rooted. Or maybe someone else can chime in and let you know if it is OK to run the RUU with "s-off" and not break the NAND unlock.
All RUU's can be found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Supersonic/ROMs#Stock_ROMs
Good luck.
If you've updated OTA, you cannot run an older RUU. If you haven't, running the RUU will not change your s-off if you used unrevoked 3+ to root or if you flashed unrevoked forever (some other root methods use this for nand unlock). The RUUs are not rooted, but leaving s-off will allow you to reflash recovery and then flash a rooted rom.
If you're trying to fully unroot and go back to stock, you'll need to first flash the unrevoked s-on zip (assuming you used unrevoked) through recovery. You can then run an RUU from your computer or flash a PC36IMG.zip of the RUU through the bootloader. If you're attempting to unroot, look into one of the unrooting guides if you need more clarification. If you just want a stock setup but want to remain rooted, you can flash one of the stock rooted roms. If you're already on a stock rom you can just do a factory reset.
(from... Evo/MIUI/Tapatalk)
Is there any reason for me to update my already rooted 2.2 Evo to the latest just to update? Do I get anything out of it?
If so, where can I get the original PC36IMG.zip to flash? Thanks.
If you're satisfied with the way your device is performing then no, there is absolutely no reason to upgrade. Having said that, if you want to see how newer roms look and perform on your rooted device then yes, you should upgrade from 2.2.
from my EVO 4G
dougjamal said:
If you're satisfied with the way your device is performing then no, there is absolutely no reason to upgrade. Having said that, if you want to see how newer roms look and perform on your rooted device then yes, you should upgrade from 2.2.
from my EVO 4G
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Any idea where or how I would get that original zip file and go from rooted to non-root?
luisdile02 said:
Is there any reason for me to update my already rooted 2.2 Evo to the latest just to update? Do I get anything out of it?
If so, where can I get the original PC36IMG.zip to flash? Thanks.
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No need to unroot and re root. That is just plain stupid. If you want the features of 2.3 flash a 2.3 based Rom.
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I think your question is more around whether the new root method gives you a "better" root than the original, or if it "updates" something. In this situation, no. You're either S-OFF or you're S-ON. If you'd rooted with the old methods and you're S-OFF, there's nothing gained by re-rooting with revolutionary.
Just sleep better at night knowing that if you ever need a replacement, it can be rooted!
bkrodgers said:
I think your question is more around whether the new root method gives you a "better" root than the original, or if it "updates" something. In this situation, no. You're either S-OFF or you're S-ON. If you'd rooted with the old methods and you're S-OFF, there's nothing gained by re-rooting with revolutionary.
Just sleep better at night knowing that if you ever need a replacement, it can be rooted!
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+ 1....... Well stated, my friend....
from my EVO 4G
If you're on 2.2 (Froyo) and already rooted, you can simply get a new rom with the latest Gingerbread kernel included and flash it (recommend doing Nandroid and app backups first).
MikG 2.45 is a nice sense-based rom which has is gingerbread (2.3.3) and incorporates the new sense 2.1 and some 3.0 widgets. Very nice, just follow Mik's recommendations for installation (wipe everything but SD card) for first install.