Is there any reason for me to update my already rooted 2.2 Evo to the latest just to update? Do I get anything out of it?
If so, where can I get the original PC36IMG.zip to flash? Thanks.
If you're satisfied with the way your device is performing then no, there is absolutely no reason to upgrade. Having said that, if you want to see how newer roms look and perform on your rooted device then yes, you should upgrade from 2.2.
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dougjamal said:
If you're satisfied with the way your device is performing then no, there is absolutely no reason to upgrade. Having said that, if you want to see how newer roms look and perform on your rooted device then yes, you should upgrade from 2.2.
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Any idea where or how I would get that original zip file and go from rooted to non-root?
luisdile02 said:
Is there any reason for me to update my already rooted 2.2 Evo to the latest just to update? Do I get anything out of it?
If so, where can I get the original PC36IMG.zip to flash? Thanks.
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No need to unroot and re root. That is just plain stupid. If you want the features of 2.3 flash a 2.3 based Rom.
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I think your question is more around whether the new root method gives you a "better" root than the original, or if it "updates" something. In this situation, no. You're either S-OFF or you're S-ON. If you'd rooted with the old methods and you're S-OFF, there's nothing gained by re-rooting with revolutionary.
Just sleep better at night knowing that if you ever need a replacement, it can be rooted!
bkrodgers said:
I think your question is more around whether the new root method gives you a "better" root than the original, or if it "updates" something. In this situation, no. You're either S-OFF or you're S-ON. If you'd rooted with the old methods and you're S-OFF, there's nothing gained by re-rooting with revolutionary.
Just sleep better at night knowing that if you ever need a replacement, it can be rooted!
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+ 1....... Well stated, my friend....
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If you're on 2.2 (Froyo) and already rooted, you can simply get a new rom with the latest Gingerbread kernel included and flash it (recommend doing Nandroid and app backups first).
MikG 2.45 is a nice sense-based rom which has is gingerbread (2.3.3) and incorporates the new sense 2.1 and some 3.0 widgets. Very nice, just follow Mik's recommendations for installation (wipe everything but SD card) for first install.
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I bought an Evo from Cragslist and Installed on it was the android-wifi-tether. I neaver asked the seller what root he had put on the Evo is there any way to check? I wanted to but the new update on Evo not really sure what to do I don't really use/abuse the teathering thing it is nice to know you can do it though.
Settings-About Phone-Software. It should be listed in the version number. If the bootup is the typical Spring 4G splash, then it's probably just stock with wifi tether.
If you ever want to keep root or unroot in the future, do not install the OTA update. You'll lose the ability to root.
You can install just about any ROM you want, read around the forums for information on each one and how to install them. You may also want to read the "how to root" threads to see how it was done, as it's very instructional.
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Settings-About Phone-Software. It should be listed in the version number. If the bootup is the typical Spring 4G splash, then it's probably just stock with wifi tether.
If you ever want to keep root or unroot in the future, do not install the OTA update. You'll lose the ability to root.
You can install just about any ROM you want, read around the forums for information on each one and how to install them. You may also want to read the "how to root" threads to see how it was done, as it's very instructional.
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Thanks for your help its sounds like I may want anthor rom idk the battery life and SD cards are major issues for me and i'm hoping that with a diffrent rom they would be able to fix them. I read that formating the SD card might fix the sd card bug but i'm afraid i'lll lose my root do you know if thats the case? Thanks
Formatting the SD card will not make you lose root. Although, it sounds like you may want to try flashing another Rom or even trying to redo toasts rooting guide
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I bought an Evo from Cragslist and Installed on it was the android-wifi-tether. I neaver asked the seller what root he had put on the Evo is there any way to check? I wanted to but the new update on Evo not really sure what to do I don't really use/abuse the teathering thing it is nice to know you can do it though.
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If all else fails just re-root. That way to can make sure of the root type
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Thanks for your reply I'll try re-formatting the SD card tonight i'm kind of scared to put anther rom on the phone it seems so complicated....
But since I bought the phone used I really have no idea whats on this thing since I didn't ask the seller the right questions when i bought it
I have never used Craigslist before, but you can't email him just to ask? Worst case is he doesn't reply to your email.
good call I wrote the person I bought it from I didn't even think to search email and send him a message thanks for the advise!!
when i follow these steps i get the option to see versions of many diff things. android version, baseband version, kernel version, pri version, prl version... which one tells me the root? i also bought a rooted evo off someone and need to update gingerbread and beed this info i am told
angelzmom said:
when i follow these steps i get the option to see versions of many diff things. android version, baseband version, kernel version, pri version, prl version... which one tells me the root? i also bought a rooted evo off someone and need to update gingerbread and beed this info i am told
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If you're rooted and s-off, all you need to do is download the stock rooted rom (or if you'd like, a custom rom with updated software) and flash it through recovery. If you don't know how to flash roms, there are guides available here and on other sites.
You don't really need to know how it was rooted unless you are wanting to unroot. If you boot into hboot, then your hboot version will most likely tell how it was rooted. If it's 6.16, then it was rooted with revolutionary. If it's 2.10 or below, it was most likely rooted with unrevoked... but it could've been rooted with Toast's method or something else. If it's still on 2.2, then most likely unrevoked was used unless someone rooted with revolutionary and then flashed a 2.2 rom, but that's unlikely.
If you don't want it to be rooted, find out which root method was used and unroot with the proper method. You can RUU to the latest firmware during the unroot process.
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plainjane said:
If you're rooted and s-off, all you need to do is download the stock rooted rom (or if you'd like, a custom rom with updated software) and flash it through recovery. If you don't know how to flash roms, there are guides available here and on other sites.
You don't really need to know how it was rooted unless you are wanting to unroot. If you boot into hboot, then your hboot version will most likely tell how it was rooted. If it's 6.16, then it was rooted with revolutionary. If it's 2.10 or below, it was most likely rooted with unrevoked... but it could've been rooted with Toast's method or something else. If it's still on 2.2, then most likely unrevoked was used unless someone rooted with revolutionary and then flashed a 2.2 rom, but that's unlikely.
If you don't want it to be rooted, find out which root method was used and unroot with the proper method. You can RUU to the latest firmware during the unroot process.
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k super confusing lol, its 6.16.1002 also says supersonic evt3 ship s-off
i just wanna install latest gingerbread and possibly u can suggest some must have apps to manage all this rooting stuff?
**I was told on a diff thread (evo 3d *oops) to tell u this: I have a stock rooted ROM, s-off, with hboot 6.16.1002
angelzmom said:
k super confusing lol, its 6.16.1002 also says supersonic evt3 ship s-off
i just wanna install latest gingerbread and possibly u can suggest some must have apps to manage all this rooting stuff?
**I was told on a diff thread (evo 3d *oops) to tell u this: I have a stock rooted ROM, s-off, with hboot 6.16.1002
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All you need to do is research flashing roms. Once you understand that, go to the Evo 4G Development forum and find the stock rooted rom (grab the odexed version unless you plan to theme or modify it). Backup your apps and data with Titanium Backup and texts with SMS Backup & Restore if you'd like. Boot into recovery, nandroid backup, then wipe and flash as directed in one of the many guides.
If you have ClockworkMod recovery, I suggest switching to Amon Ra. Download the PC36IMG for AR and put it on the root of your SD card (not in any folders), then boot into hboot. The phone will scan for the file and ask you to update, hit volume up for yes.
You can get a properly named version of Amon Ra from here: http://db.tt/WP0beNa
But before doing anything, read as much as you can. Good luck!
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plainjane said:
All you need to do is research flashing roms. Once you understand that, go to the Evo 4G Development forum and find the stock rooted rom (grab the odexed version unless you plan to theme or modify it). Backup your apps and data with Titanium Backup and texts with SMS Backup & Restore if you'd like. Boot into recovery, nandroid backup, then wipe and flash as directed in one of the many guides.
If you have ClockworkMod recovery, I suggest switching to Amon Ra. Download the PC36IMG for AR and put it on the root of your SD card (not in any folders), then boot into hboot. The phone will scan for the file and ask you to update, hit volume up for yes.
You can get a properly named version of Amon Ra from here: http://db.tt/WP0beNa
But before doing anything, read as much as you can. Good luck!
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I am trying to upgrade gingerbread from 4.24.651.1 to 4.53.651.1 is there a certain way to do that with the root?
and where do i find this nandroid?
angelzmom said:
I am trying to upgrade gingerbread from 4.24.651.1 to 4.53.651.1 is there a certain way to do that with the root?
and where do i find this nandroid?
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First you need to read.
Read these threads first:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=20201201
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=865204
Once you've read those threads and searched for anything else you don't understand, then ask questions. You have to help yourself a bit.
No offense, it's just that your questions have already been answered. If you're not willing to do some reading, then I'm not willing to do some unneeded writing.
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I had spent an entire day reading these forums and I finally found a vid on YouTube that showed me how to do it
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With todays rumored start of the OTA for the Dinc I have a question as to how to go about things. When the leaked 2.2 came out I flashed my radio and updated to the leaked 2.2, had the typical problems everyone else did but instead of going through all of the fixes went back to stock 2.1. So I'm back to firmware 2.1-update1 baseband 1.000.03.04.06. My question is this. Unrevoked posted a tweet last night/early this morning saying to be sure to use Unrevoked Forever before any OTAs. So, at risk of goofing something up what steps do I need to take to be ready for the OTA?
Root using Unrevoked 3.1
Use Unrevoked Forever
Wait for OTA
Sound about right? But if I do those things will I be able to apply the OTA without issue? Or is the general idea to not apply 2.2 until Unrevoked has come out with a modified 2.2 OTA. I'm honestly not too worried about root as I know that Unrevoked will eventually, if not soon after the update, come out with something for rooting 2.2.
Also, if I do these things and return to Stock, S-ON will be there still, can I then take the update normally without issue, then simply wait on Unrevoked to root 2.2? So many things going on, not sure which way to go.
I looked over the forums and didn't see any similar questions being asked, so if I missed something please disregard.
You need to have s-off before you apply the 2.2 OTA update or you will loose Root perm until they figure out a way to reroot. If you have S-off even if you take a OTA that has not been rooted, you can simply flash a new recovery that allows you to install su, and use that to restore yourself to a fully rooted system.
I got this information from http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/forever I take no credit for it.
The steps you described will enable you to root after the OTA update. Just make sure that you have the latest radio before you update.
Keep in mind that there is currently no way to revert from s-off at the moment so if your goal is to have a 2.2 factory image, just sit tight and wait for the update.
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You need to have s-off before you apply the 2.2 OTA update or you will loose Root perm until they figure out a way to reroot. If you have S-off even if you take a OTA that has not been rooted, you can simply flash a new recovery that allows you to install su, and use that to restore yourself to a fully rooted system.
I got this information from http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/forever I take no credit for it.
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OK, forgive the stupid question. It's early, I didn't sleep, so I NEED to run Unrevoked Forever, period, before the OTA, otherwise I'm at the mercy of someone discovering a root method for 2.2, which may or may not take forever, yea?
Yes that is what I have read that the 2.2 OTA will plug up the current root process just like it did for the EVO.
If you want root, you install unrevoked forever.
If you are worried about being able to revert to stock image for warranty reasons or otherwise, check Berzerker7's post in the development thread to downgrade. According to him you will have stock and VZW techs dont have a way for checking for s-off
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Hatman41 said:
Yes that is what I have read that the 2.2 OTA will plug up the current root process just like it did for the EVO.
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OK so here's what I've got so far, and thanks for the help =)
•Run Unrevoked 3.1
•Run Unrevoked Forever
•Reflash back to Stock 2.1
•Apply official OTA
•Apply custom recovery
•Install su
Sound right?
I just found this about the OTA http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7728407&postcount=3386
Assuming you are on 2.1 with clockwork and s-off: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7660617&postcount=5
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So could I follow the steps I outlined before and be ok?
•Run Unrevoked 3.1
•Run Unrevoked Forever
•Reflash back to Stock 2.1
•Apply official OTA
•Apply custom recovery
•Install su
Yes you should be fine if you do that.
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Yes you should be fine if you do that.
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OK, thanks a lot for the help guys. I feel better going into this now =)
Now all we need is the OTA.
I am a bit confused. I am urnning radio 2.15 (latest) with SkyRaider 2.5.2 and Clockwork recovery and S-OFF.
How do i go about getting stock radio and stock ROM? Also, can the stock rom be rooted or no when flashing OTA?
Thanks!
rulevoid said:
I am a bit confused. I am urnning radio 2.15 (latest) with SkyRaider 2.5.2 and Clockwork recovery and S-OFF.
How do i go about getting stock radio and stock ROM? Also, can the stock rom be rooted or no when flashing OTA?
Thanks!
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Read http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=757927 to revert back to the stock radio and stock ROM. As you have S-OFF once you have intalled the OTA then just flash the custom recovery that Unrevoked has supplied http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/forever and apply SU and then you are rooted again.
lamusician said:
If you want root, you install unrevoked forever.
If you are worried about being able to revert to stock image for warranty reasons or otherwise, check Berzerker7's post in the development thread to downgrade. According to him you will have stock and VZW techs dont have a way for checking for s-off
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Well if HBOOT still runs, they can just power it up and look for it to say S-OFF at the top.
Yup
sryan2k1 said:
Well if HBOOT still runs, they can just power it up and look for it to say S-OFF at the top.
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This is the dilemma ... I honestly do not know what I intend to do.
Basically I'm new to the Android world. Just upgraded to an Evo4G from a good ol' WinMo 6.5 phone. What I want to do is simply root my Evo so I can take advantage of root-only apps, but keep the stock Sprint Froyo ROM with Sense UI.
Thanks a lot in advance. Much appreciated.
Revoked.com it roots ur phone
ur girlfriends evo
unRevoked.com it roots ur phone
ur girlfriends evo
Root your phone with unrevoked from unrevoked.com.
Then flash the rom from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=789913
Everything will be exactly the same, except you will have root and access to any program you would like.
dkelle4 said:
Root your phone with unrevoked from unrevoked.com.
Then flash the rom from here:
Everything will be exactly the same, except you will have root and access to any program you would like.
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to clarify, if you root your phone with unrevoked 3.21, it ONLY gives you root access and sets s-off. this means you still have your stock 2.2 rom.
the link provided above is the new OTA update. while you can install that, it's not necessary.
you should be able to do all the OTA's then unrevoked/forever.
no need to flash any other rom.
does any one know where i can find a stock PC36IMG.zip that is rooted for the latest ota
http://goo-inside.me/evo/stock/ruu/ download the 3.70 .zip one.
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http://goo-inside.me/evo/stock/ruu/ download the 3.70 .zip one.
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Aren't those completely stock and not rooted?
If you want a stock rooted PC36IMG, your best bet would be the Sprint Lovers ROM. It's about 99.9% stock and comes as a PC36IMG.
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I know for a fact that these are rooted versions of the 3.70 OTA because I have personally flashed both the ODEXED and DEODEXED versions.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=874251
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=874251
or Sprint Lovers or Ricism78s Stock Turbo.
Edit: Beat me to it and I have flashed both too.
oh didn't see 'rooted' my bad.
jstalford said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=874251
or Sprint Lovers or Ricism78s Stock Turbo.
Edit: Beat me to it and I have flashed both too.
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lol....It's all good, my friend.
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oh didn't see 'rooted' my bad.
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I'm usually the one guilty of missing something....lol....Whew! I feel better now........I'm just having fun, my friend.
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lol. yea i should read better man so dissapointed...
thanks for the help, sprint lover rom it is
I highly recommend you download and flash the stock ODEXED 3.70 rom listed in the link I provided earlier if you want "exactly" the rom you had when you purchased your EVO (rooted, of course).
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Do I need to install one of these to complete an OTA update?
jstalford said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=874251
or Sprint Lovers or Ricism78s Stock Turbo.
Edit: Beat me to it and I have flashed both too.
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I am totally new to xda, though fairly technically adept with years of Linux experience, which is to say, I am not clueless, but I'm totally lost with this.
I rooted my evo with unrevoked3. I installed unrevoked-forever. I did not install a custom ROM (unless one of the above processes installed one for me). I tried to install the 4.22.651.2 update OTA, but after the progress bar got a third of the way, the package on the screen turned into a warning symbol + android, and just stayed there until I did a battery pull.
I am clueless as to what to do next to allow the OTA update to install. Do I need to install one of the above? Do I need to S-on?
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I am totally new to xda, though fairly technically adept with years of Linux experience, which is to say, I am not clueless, but I'm totally lost with this.
I rooted my evo with unrevoked3. I installed unrevoked-forever. I did not install a custom ROM (unless one of the above processes installed one for me). I tried to install the 4.22.651.2 update OTA, but after the progress bar got a third of the way, the package on the screen turned into a warning symbol + android, and just stayed there until I did a battery pull.
I am clueless as to what to do next to allow the OTA update to install. Do I need to install one of the above? Do I need to S-on?
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you need s-on and to unroot.
Thanks
I suppose I unroot by installing the stock PC36IMG.zip?
artie-chimney said:
I suppose I unroot by installing the stock PC36IMG.zip?
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yep. but make sure to flash the unrevoked s-on tool first. otherwise, you will be stuck with no recovery and an unrooted rom but with s-off.
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yep. but make sure to flash the unrevoked s-on tool first. otherwise, you will be stuck with no recovery and an unrooted rom but with s-off.
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...but if you want to be rooted, just flash the rooted version of the stock rom. You can keep s-off, that way if you change your mind and want to go back to root, you can just flash recovery and then flash a rom. If you don't want to be rooted anymore, or don't mind waiting for a root exploit, go ahead and flash the s-on zip. At the moment Unrevoked, or anything else for that matter, can not root the OTA if you're s-on.
(from... Evo/MIUI/Tapatalk)
A few more questions
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...but if you want to be rooted, just flash the rooted version of the stock rom. You can keep s-off, that way if you change your mind and want to go back to root, you can just flash recovery and then flash a rom. If you don't want to be rooted anymore, or don't mind waiting for a root exploit, go ahead and flash the s-on zip. At the moment Unrevoked, or anything else for that matter, can not root the OTA if you're s-on.
(from... Evo/MIUI/Tapatalk)
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Ahhh... So I won't be able to be rooted and use the OTA update for now? I thought I could unroot, install the update, and root again.
I don't use any custom ROMs. Heck, I haven't even changed the original wallpaper. I rooted just for Wireless Tether, Titanium Backup and to use the Root Uninstaller to get rid of the pre-installed apps I didn't want.
I really appreciate the help. I am less confused about the process now, but more confused about aligning my technical goals with what I want to do with my phone.
No. If you unroot and install the OTA, you cannot root again. There is no method yet.
You're best bet is to stay rooted and flash the Stock/Rooted ROM
Is it possible to downgrade from the new Gingerbread release back to Froyo? I would love to be able to get back to the previous version and root my phone. I really don't see much different in Gingerbread that would make it worth keeping. Also, is there any hope of unrevoked working on Gingerbread anytime soon?
Bruinfanjb said:
Is it possible to downgrade from the new Gingerbread release back to Froyo? I would love to be able to get back to the previous version and root my phone. I really don't see much different in Gingerbread that would make it worth keeping. Also, is there any hope of unrevoked working on Gingerbread anytime soon?
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If you were not rooted and had S-OFF before you installed the update, then no there is no way to downgrade now. I imagine there will be a new root method for Gingerbread, but nobody knows when that will happen.
Jeff
actually, having S-OFF would be a good thing right? meaning you can reflash an older stock rom through HBoot.....I think what you mean is having S-ON and having the new Gingerbread release is where you cant re-root it.....I'm personally in that boat and I havent even recieved the "new new" Gingerbread, I just have the August 17 OTA (605.2) still waiting for the (605.3) OTA to get to me.
resyek83 said:
actually, having S-OFF would be a good thing right? meaning you can reflash an older stock rom through HBoot.....I think what you mean is having S-ON and having the new Gingerbread release is where you cant re-root it.....I'm personally in that boat and I havent even recieved the "new new" Gingerbread, I just have the August 17 OTA (605.2) still waiting for the (605.3) OTA to get to me.
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Yes, I mean if you were not rooted and had S-ON then you would not be able to root again until there was a fix. My mistake.
I think the rollout should be completed by the end of the week. The original rollout in August was going to take a week to complete.
I'm not sure if I understand this correctly. I just checked and I am S-Off so does that mean it's possible to install a different ROM? If so, how do I do that in this case?
Bruinfanjb said:
I'm not sure if I understand this correctly. I just checked and I am S-Off so does that mean it's possible to install a different ROM? If so, how do I do that in this case?
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You need to make sure you have ClockworkMod Recovery installed and then it's just a question of finding a Froyo ROM. You can install via the recovery or ROM Manager, just like normal.
S-Off + ClockworkMod = any ROM you want, any time, forever
I'm not going to specifically point anything out, but If you search around for posts you should be able to find something. I know there's a few posts about it because that's the only think I found when I was searching.
EDIT: looks like someone beat me to the reply, check out Zoon0n's reply.
Zoon0n said:
You need to make sure you have ClockworkMod Recovery installed and then it's just a question of finding a Froyo ROM. You can install via the recovery or ROM Manager, just like normal.
S-Off + ClockworkMod = any ROM you want, any time, forever
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Only problem is that when I run ROM Manager, it says the phone is not rooted.
Bruinfanjb said:
Only problem is that when I run ROM Manager, it says the phone is not rooted.
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If you don't have the Superuser app in your app drawer, you aren't rooted. You'll need to flash a recovery using HBOOT, and naming the zip PB31IMG.zip method.
Get it from Doug Piston:
http://dougpiston.com/?page_id=85
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