Is it possible to downgrade from the new Gingerbread release back to Froyo? I would love to be able to get back to the previous version and root my phone. I really don't see much different in Gingerbread that would make it worth keeping. Also, is there any hope of unrevoked working on Gingerbread anytime soon?
Bruinfanjb said:
Is it possible to downgrade from the new Gingerbread release back to Froyo? I would love to be able to get back to the previous version and root my phone. I really don't see much different in Gingerbread that would make it worth keeping. Also, is there any hope of unrevoked working on Gingerbread anytime soon?
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If you were not rooted and had S-OFF before you installed the update, then no there is no way to downgrade now. I imagine there will be a new root method for Gingerbread, but nobody knows when that will happen.
Jeff
actually, having S-OFF would be a good thing right? meaning you can reflash an older stock rom through HBoot.....I think what you mean is having S-ON and having the new Gingerbread release is where you cant re-root it.....I'm personally in that boat and I havent even recieved the "new new" Gingerbread, I just have the August 17 OTA (605.2) still waiting for the (605.3) OTA to get to me.
resyek83 said:
actually, having S-OFF would be a good thing right? meaning you can reflash an older stock rom through HBoot.....I think what you mean is having S-ON and having the new Gingerbread release is where you cant re-root it.....I'm personally in that boat and I havent even recieved the "new new" Gingerbread, I just have the August 17 OTA (605.2) still waiting for the (605.3) OTA to get to me.
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Yes, I mean if you were not rooted and had S-ON then you would not be able to root again until there was a fix. My mistake.
I think the rollout should be completed by the end of the week. The original rollout in August was going to take a week to complete.
I'm not sure if I understand this correctly. I just checked and I am S-Off so does that mean it's possible to install a different ROM? If so, how do I do that in this case?
Bruinfanjb said:
I'm not sure if I understand this correctly. I just checked and I am S-Off so does that mean it's possible to install a different ROM? If so, how do I do that in this case?
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You need to make sure you have ClockworkMod Recovery installed and then it's just a question of finding a Froyo ROM. You can install via the recovery or ROM Manager, just like normal.
S-Off + ClockworkMod = any ROM you want, any time, forever
I'm not going to specifically point anything out, but If you search around for posts you should be able to find something. I know there's a few posts about it because that's the only think I found when I was searching.
EDIT: looks like someone beat me to the reply, check out Zoon0n's reply.
Zoon0n said:
You need to make sure you have ClockworkMod Recovery installed and then it's just a question of finding a Froyo ROM. You can install via the recovery or ROM Manager, just like normal.
S-Off + ClockworkMod = any ROM you want, any time, forever
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Only problem is that when I run ROM Manager, it says the phone is not rooted.
Bruinfanjb said:
Only problem is that when I run ROM Manager, it says the phone is not rooted.
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If you don't have the Superuser app in your app drawer, you aren't rooted. You'll need to flash a recovery using HBOOT, and naming the zip PB31IMG.zip method.
Get it from Doug Piston:
http://dougpiston.com/?page_id=85
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With todays rumored start of the OTA for the Dinc I have a question as to how to go about things. When the leaked 2.2 came out I flashed my radio and updated to the leaked 2.2, had the typical problems everyone else did but instead of going through all of the fixes went back to stock 2.1. So I'm back to firmware 2.1-update1 baseband 1.000.03.04.06. My question is this. Unrevoked posted a tweet last night/early this morning saying to be sure to use Unrevoked Forever before any OTAs. So, at risk of goofing something up what steps do I need to take to be ready for the OTA?
Root using Unrevoked 3.1
Use Unrevoked Forever
Wait for OTA
Sound about right? But if I do those things will I be able to apply the OTA without issue? Or is the general idea to not apply 2.2 until Unrevoked has come out with a modified 2.2 OTA. I'm honestly not too worried about root as I know that Unrevoked will eventually, if not soon after the update, come out with something for rooting 2.2.
Also, if I do these things and return to Stock, S-ON will be there still, can I then take the update normally without issue, then simply wait on Unrevoked to root 2.2? So many things going on, not sure which way to go.
I looked over the forums and didn't see any similar questions being asked, so if I missed something please disregard.
You need to have s-off before you apply the 2.2 OTA update or you will loose Root perm until they figure out a way to reroot. If you have S-off even if you take a OTA that has not been rooted, you can simply flash a new recovery that allows you to install su, and use that to restore yourself to a fully rooted system.
I got this information from http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/forever I take no credit for it.
The steps you described will enable you to root after the OTA update. Just make sure that you have the latest radio before you update.
Keep in mind that there is currently no way to revert from s-off at the moment so if your goal is to have a 2.2 factory image, just sit tight and wait for the update.
Sent from my rooted Dinc using XDA App
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You need to have s-off before you apply the 2.2 OTA update or you will loose Root perm until they figure out a way to reroot. If you have S-off even if you take a OTA that has not been rooted, you can simply flash a new recovery that allows you to install su, and use that to restore yourself to a fully rooted system.
I got this information from http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/forever I take no credit for it.
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OK, forgive the stupid question. It's early, I didn't sleep, so I NEED to run Unrevoked Forever, period, before the OTA, otherwise I'm at the mercy of someone discovering a root method for 2.2, which may or may not take forever, yea?
Yes that is what I have read that the 2.2 OTA will plug up the current root process just like it did for the EVO.
If you want root, you install unrevoked forever.
If you are worried about being able to revert to stock image for warranty reasons or otherwise, check Berzerker7's post in the development thread to downgrade. According to him you will have stock and VZW techs dont have a way for checking for s-off
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Hatman41 said:
Yes that is what I have read that the 2.2 OTA will plug up the current root process just like it did for the EVO.
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OK so here's what I've got so far, and thanks for the help =)
•Run Unrevoked 3.1
•Run Unrevoked Forever
•Reflash back to Stock 2.1
•Apply official OTA
•Apply custom recovery
•Install su
Sound right?
I just found this about the OTA http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7728407&postcount=3386
Assuming you are on 2.1 with clockwork and s-off: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7660617&postcount=5
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So could I follow the steps I outlined before and be ok?
•Run Unrevoked 3.1
•Run Unrevoked Forever
•Reflash back to Stock 2.1
•Apply official OTA
•Apply custom recovery
•Install su
Yes you should be fine if you do that.
Hatman41 said:
Yes you should be fine if you do that.
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OK, thanks a lot for the help guys. I feel better going into this now =)
Now all we need is the OTA.
I am a bit confused. I am urnning radio 2.15 (latest) with SkyRaider 2.5.2 and Clockwork recovery and S-OFF.
How do i go about getting stock radio and stock ROM? Also, can the stock rom be rooted or no when flashing OTA?
Thanks!
rulevoid said:
I am a bit confused. I am urnning radio 2.15 (latest) with SkyRaider 2.5.2 and Clockwork recovery and S-OFF.
How do i go about getting stock radio and stock ROM? Also, can the stock rom be rooted or no when flashing OTA?
Thanks!
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Read http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=757927 to revert back to the stock radio and stock ROM. As you have S-OFF once you have intalled the OTA then just flash the custom recovery that Unrevoked has supplied http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/forever and apply SU and then you are rooted again.
lamusician said:
If you want root, you install unrevoked forever.
If you are worried about being able to revert to stock image for warranty reasons or otherwise, check Berzerker7's post in the development thread to downgrade. According to him you will have stock and VZW techs dont have a way for checking for s-off
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Well if HBOOT still runs, they can just power it up and look for it to say S-OFF at the top.
Yup
sryan2k1 said:
Well if HBOOT still runs, they can just power it up and look for it to say S-OFF at the top.
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This is the dilemma ... I honestly do not know what I intend to do.
does any one know where i can find a stock PC36IMG.zip that is rooted for the latest ota
http://goo-inside.me/evo/stock/ruu/ download the 3.70 .zip one.
dkdude36 said:
http://goo-inside.me/evo/stock/ruu/ download the 3.70 .zip one.
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Aren't those completely stock and not rooted?
If you want a stock rooted PC36IMG, your best bet would be the Sprint Lovers ROM. It's about 99.9% stock and comes as a PC36IMG.
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I know for a fact that these are rooted versions of the 3.70 OTA because I have personally flashed both the ODEXED and DEODEXED versions.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=874251
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=874251
or Sprint Lovers or Ricism78s Stock Turbo.
Edit: Beat me to it and I have flashed both too.
oh didn't see 'rooted' my bad.
jstalford said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=874251
or Sprint Lovers or Ricism78s Stock Turbo.
Edit: Beat me to it and I have flashed both too.
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lol....It's all good, my friend.
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dkdude36 said:
oh didn't see 'rooted' my bad.
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I'm usually the one guilty of missing something....lol....Whew! I feel better now........I'm just having fun, my friend.
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lol. yea i should read better man so dissapointed...
thanks for the help, sprint lover rom it is
I highly recommend you download and flash the stock ODEXED 3.70 rom listed in the link I provided earlier if you want "exactly" the rom you had when you purchased your EVO (rooted, of course).
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Do I need to install one of these to complete an OTA update?
jstalford said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=874251
or Sprint Lovers or Ricism78s Stock Turbo.
Edit: Beat me to it and I have flashed both too.
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I am totally new to xda, though fairly technically adept with years of Linux experience, which is to say, I am not clueless, but I'm totally lost with this.
I rooted my evo with unrevoked3. I installed unrevoked-forever. I did not install a custom ROM (unless one of the above processes installed one for me). I tried to install the 4.22.651.2 update OTA, but after the progress bar got a third of the way, the package on the screen turned into a warning symbol + android, and just stayed there until I did a battery pull.
I am clueless as to what to do next to allow the OTA update to install. Do I need to install one of the above? Do I need to S-on?
artie-chimney said:
I am totally new to xda, though fairly technically adept with years of Linux experience, which is to say, I am not clueless, but I'm totally lost with this.
I rooted my evo with unrevoked3. I installed unrevoked-forever. I did not install a custom ROM (unless one of the above processes installed one for me). I tried to install the 4.22.651.2 update OTA, but after the progress bar got a third of the way, the package on the screen turned into a warning symbol + android, and just stayed there until I did a battery pull.
I am clueless as to what to do next to allow the OTA update to install. Do I need to install one of the above? Do I need to S-on?
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you need s-on and to unroot.
Thanks
I suppose I unroot by installing the stock PC36IMG.zip?
artie-chimney said:
I suppose I unroot by installing the stock PC36IMG.zip?
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yep. but make sure to flash the unrevoked s-on tool first. otherwise, you will be stuck with no recovery and an unrooted rom but with s-off.
dkdude36 said:
yep. but make sure to flash the unrevoked s-on tool first. otherwise, you will be stuck with no recovery and an unrooted rom but with s-off.
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...but if you want to be rooted, just flash the rooted version of the stock rom. You can keep s-off, that way if you change your mind and want to go back to root, you can just flash recovery and then flash a rom. If you don't want to be rooted anymore, or don't mind waiting for a root exploit, go ahead and flash the s-on zip. At the moment Unrevoked, or anything else for that matter, can not root the OTA if you're s-on.
(from... Evo/MIUI/Tapatalk)
A few more questions
plainjane said:
...but if you want to be rooted, just flash the rooted version of the stock rom. You can keep s-off, that way if you change your mind and want to go back to root, you can just flash recovery and then flash a rom. If you don't want to be rooted anymore, or don't mind waiting for a root exploit, go ahead and flash the s-on zip. At the moment Unrevoked, or anything else for that matter, can not root the OTA if you're s-on.
(from... Evo/MIUI/Tapatalk)
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Ahhh... So I won't be able to be rooted and use the OTA update for now? I thought I could unroot, install the update, and root again.
I don't use any custom ROMs. Heck, I haven't even changed the original wallpaper. I rooted just for Wireless Tether, Titanium Backup and to use the Root Uninstaller to get rid of the pre-installed apps I didn't want.
I really appreciate the help. I am less confused about the process now, but more confused about aligning my technical goals with what I want to do with my phone.
No. If you unroot and install the OTA, you cannot root again. There is no method yet.
You're best bet is to stay rooted and flash the Stock/Rooted ROM
I RUU'd my phone to stock so I could check out the new update. Trying to reroot using unrevoked and I am getting "failed to flash recovery image" I followed all the steps...
has anyone else been able to root this?
This what I kept telling people...don't do that. Unrevoked won't work on it because it hasn't been updated to work with the new OTA, though it should happen soon. You should have waited for the rooted rom, which would be out sometime today, Virus is already on it. For now, you're stuck.
Have you tried looking at the bootloader? Does it show s-off? I doubt it worked, but in the event it did, all you would have to do is flash a PC36IMG of a recovery in the bootloader.
Stuke00 said:
I RUU'd my phone to stock so I could check out the new update. Trying to reroot using unrevoked and I am getting "failed to flash recovery image" I followed all the steps...
has anyone else been able to root this?
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Epic Fail.
lol unrevoked has not came up with new version of root for last ota. dude it just came out yesterday try diffident methods
teh roxxorz said:
This what I kept telling people...don't do that. Unrevoked won't work on it because it hasn't been updated to work with the new OTA, though it should happen soon. You should have waited for the rooted rom, which would be out sometime today, Virus is already on it. For now, you're stuck.
Have you tried looking at the bootloader? Does it show s-off? I doubt it worked, but in the event it did, all you would have to do is flash a PC36IMG of a recovery in the bootloader.
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Yeah I know
Another root method maybe?
Or I guess I could just RUU back again and not update?
Stuke00 said:
Yeah I know
Another root method maybe?
Or I guess I could just RUU back again and not update?
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RUUing to an older version of what you have could brick your phone. The new update has a new bootloader so you are pretty much screwed until somebody comes up with a way to root it.
If he was actually thinking properly it wouldn't matter. If he had S-Off then just flashed the Amon Ra in recovery then he will have Recovery Back and can Flash ANY ROM he Desires.
RUU'ing back to stock doesn't turn S-Off back to S-On
But if he Didn't i would advise Running the Old RUU then using unrevoked, then unrevoked forever but unrevoked3 has unrevoked forever built into it then you can update to the new rom and reflash amon ra or clockwork over to have recovery back then when a Odexed or DeOdexed rom comes out flash it
tgruendler said:
Epic Fail.
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Nope not really. I love to play around and try things out for myself. Best way for me to learn things. No big deal if I don't get root right now. I'll figure out something.
kingakuma said:
if he was actually thinking properly it wouldn't matter if he had S-Off then just flashed the Amon Ra in recovery then he will have Recovery Back and can Flash ANY ROM he Desires.
RUU'ing back to stock doesn't turn S-Off back to S-On
But if he Didn't i would advise Running the Old RUU then using unrevoked, then unrevoked forever but unrevoked3 has unrevoked forever built into it then you can update to the new rom and reflash amon ra or clockwork over to have recovery back then when a Odexed or DeOdexed rom comes out flash it
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I do have S-OFF still.
Successfully flashed Amon_RA recovery Going to see if I can flash roms now.
Thanks for the tip!
You're welcome, i hope that makes things easier
Stuke00 said:
Successfully flashed Amon_RA recovery Going to see if I can flash roms now.
Thanks for the tip!
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Well I guess you're lucky then. Try flashing a rom, that should set you on the right path.
Stuke00 said:
I RUU'd my phone to stock so I could check out the new update. Trying to reroot using unrevoked and I am getting "failed to flash recovery image" I followed all the steps...
has anyone else been able to root this?
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All I can say to this is No ****, Sherlock......
GOD DAMN there are a lot of nitwits on here that don't read before they jump off and do something
Odexed and Deodexed uploading as we speak
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1038701
Wait, what - SPRINT released the 2.3 OTA update? I can restore back to stock and get the update now?
Wifflepig said:
Wait, what - SPRINT released the 2.3 OTA update? I can restore back to stock and get the update now?
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Just flash the rooted version... although like everyone else, you'll probably update OTA anyway thinking it's easier and run into the same problems as everyone else.
(from... Evo/MIUI/Tapatalk)
I didn't believe it, but you guys called it, threads popping up with people complaining about losing root.
HipKat said:
All I can say to this is No ****, Sherlock......
GOD DAMN there are a lot of nitwits on here that don't read before they jump off and do something
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Lot of ignorant people too apparently. I knew the consequences and possibilities. And I was also able to get my root back. And I learned some new things. Not everything has to be so negative
DarthBelan said:
I didn't believe it, but you guys called it, threads popping up with people complaining about losing root.
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I actually wasn't complaining. I was asking if anyone had success rooting the 2.3 update. I could have been doing something wrong or missed a step.
Thanks for your feedback!
DarthBelan said:
I didn't believe it, but you guys called it, threads popping up with people complaining about losing root.
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Why would someone with 7 posts, that's been a member for a few days want to believe people who read and post here everyday and stay on top of things???
Is there any reason for me to update my already rooted 2.2 Evo to the latest just to update? Do I get anything out of it?
If so, where can I get the original PC36IMG.zip to flash? Thanks.
If you're satisfied with the way your device is performing then no, there is absolutely no reason to upgrade. Having said that, if you want to see how newer roms look and perform on your rooted device then yes, you should upgrade from 2.2.
from my EVO 4G
dougjamal said:
If you're satisfied with the way your device is performing then no, there is absolutely no reason to upgrade. Having said that, if you want to see how newer roms look and perform on your rooted device then yes, you should upgrade from 2.2.
from my EVO 4G
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Any idea where or how I would get that original zip file and go from rooted to non-root?
luisdile02 said:
Is there any reason for me to update my already rooted 2.2 Evo to the latest just to update? Do I get anything out of it?
If so, where can I get the original PC36IMG.zip to flash? Thanks.
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No need to unroot and re root. That is just plain stupid. If you want the features of 2.3 flash a 2.3 based Rom.
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I think your question is more around whether the new root method gives you a "better" root than the original, or if it "updates" something. In this situation, no. You're either S-OFF or you're S-ON. If you'd rooted with the old methods and you're S-OFF, there's nothing gained by re-rooting with revolutionary.
Just sleep better at night knowing that if you ever need a replacement, it can be rooted!
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I think your question is more around whether the new root method gives you a "better" root than the original, or if it "updates" something. In this situation, no. You're either S-OFF or you're S-ON. If you'd rooted with the old methods and you're S-OFF, there's nothing gained by re-rooting with revolutionary.
Just sleep better at night knowing that if you ever need a replacement, it can be rooted!
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+ 1....... Well stated, my friend....
from my EVO 4G
If you're on 2.2 (Froyo) and already rooted, you can simply get a new rom with the latest Gingerbread kernel included and flash it (recommend doing Nandroid and app backups first).
MikG 2.45 is a nice sense-based rom which has is gingerbread (2.3.3) and incorporates the new sense 2.1 and some 3.0 widgets. Very nice, just follow Mik's recommendations for installation (wipe everything but SD card) for first install.
Hmm. If and when it comes, could someone tell me what will happen for the s-off diNK? I've read weird stories in the past about excepting ota's while running a rom. Maybe we no get but if it does come in the notifications what should I do? Thanks in advance
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If you're running any of the latest ROMs, most developers removed the notification for the OTA. Don't accept it, as it won't install. In order to get it, you'd need to be S-ON and running the official VZW 2.2 stock ROM. They are releasing the OTA in small batches at first, then more and more over the next week here. You will lose root, and currently there is no gaining root back if you accept the OTA. You'd need to wait for Unrevoked or AlphaRev to gain the root exploit for it.
You're best bet: wait for a developer to put together a flashable zip of the official OTA when it comes out, and they get their hands on it. You keep root, and have the official release all in one nice zip.
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If you're running any of the latest ROMs, most developers removed the notification for the OTA. Don't accept it, as it won't install. In order to get it, you'd need to be S-ON and running the official VZW 2.2 stock ROM. They are releasing the OTA in small batches at first, then more and more over the next week here. You will lose root, and currently there is no gaining root back if you accept the OTA. You'd need to wait for Unrevoked or AlphaRev to gain the root exploit for it.
You're best bet: wait for a developer to put together a flashable zip of the official OTA when it comes out, and they get their hands on it. You keep root, and have the official release all in one nice zip.
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This might be mis-information as I have read several posts about NOT putting S-ON back. Basically leave it as S-OFF, do the OTA, then reload custom recovery and superuser.
At this point being that I've read both, I'm just going to wait until I see what other's are experiencing with their rooted phones. I don't want to lose root, and there are already a ton of Gingerbread ROM's out there if I want one.
badogg said:
This might be mis-information as I have read several posts about NOT putting S-ON back. Basically leave it as S-OFF, do the OTA, then reload custom recovery and superuser.
At this point being that I've read both, I'm just going to wait until I see what other's are experiencing with their rooted phones. I don't want to lose root, and there are already a ton of Gingerbread ROM's out there if I want one.
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I'm not seeing how that would work because the kernel lacks root. You could install SU, but it won't do anything.
badogg said:
This might be mis-information as I have read several posts about NOT putting S-ON back. Basically leave it as S-OFF, do the OTA, then reload custom recovery and superuser.
At this point being that I've read both, I'm just going to wait until I see what other's are experiencing with their rooted phones. I don't want to lose root, and there are already a ton of Gingerbread ROM's out there if I want one.
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I've seen the same thing too. But going back to stock 2.2 you need to first S-ON then either RUU or PB31IMG.zip, you can't just run the RUU or PB31IMG.zip file with S-OFF. I would think that the OTA would check that security flag to make sure it's S-ON before flashing, and error out/not update if you're S-OFF.
Maybe I am wrong, but waiting never hurts! Someone will get a flashable zip of the OTA, so there's no need to risk losing root over it. Chances are the flashable OTA zip will be available the same day the OTA drops, whenever that'll happen.
RMarkwald said:
I've seen the same thing too. But going back to stock 2.2 you need to first S-ON then either RUU or PB31IMG.zip, you can't just run the RUU or PB31IMG.zip file with S-OFF. I would think that the OTA would check that security flag to make sure it's S-ON before flashing, and error out/not update if you're S-OFF.
Maybe I am wrong, but waiting never hurts! Someone will get a flashable zip of the OTA, so there's no need to risk losing root over it. Chances are the flashable OTA zip will be available the same day the OTA drops, whenever that'll happen.
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Yep! Exactly why I'm waiting to see what happens with other people who are willing to try it.
Waiting for dev build seems like best/safest/easiest route. Patience wins again. Thanks for replies.
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to be honest i wouldnt even worry about the update if your rooted i would just let the devs do their thing and run a better version of 2.3.4 every dev will most likly use it as the base anyways.. also youll have to wait for root if you update and there probably wont be a way to downgrade android after you instal the OTA
reggie cheeks said:
Waiting for dev build seems like best/safest/easiest route. Patience wins again. Thanks for replies.
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oops missed this post lol