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Hi,
I've just installed Teppic's '2.29.405.5' ROM' and APP2SD+ using Clockwork Recovery, all went fine but I cannot see the partition being added to the system memory.
Internal Memory shows 140MB (Factory) but I have partitioned 1GB as ex3 and 3GB as Fat32 using GParted on my 4GB Class 2 Card.
Please could someone help me, have I done something wrong?
Thanks

Are you sure FAT32 is first partition?
Also if they are primary partitions?

k3lcior said:
Are you sure FAT32 is first partition?
Also if they are primary partitions?
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Yes both are Primary partitions and Fat32 is first partition.

It's normal, system space remains the same. It only doesn't go down as fast. Strange you couldn't find the answer by searching.
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TheGhost1233 said:
It's normal, system space remains the same. It only doesn't go down as fast. Strange you couldn't find the answer by searching.
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Okay thanks. How may I keep track of the partition storage space? Titanium?

There are apps on the Market that can show you the A2SD storage space remaining, Quick System Info is one I think (can't remember)

yes quick sys info is usefull to evaluate storage... more if you use a root explorer like es explorer, U can see your app on ext3 => /systeme/sd/... you should fine some folder like APP, dalvik-cache, lost+foung etc.. which mean your a storage app installed on sd card

Internal memory

What actually takes up internal memory as I've only got 3mb of apps on my internal memory according to Install Manager but still only got 3mb free.
I've tried cleaning all the cache but this only frees about 3mb.
Do updates for apps on your sdcard take up internal memory?
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Steveh8204 said:
What actually takes up internal memory as I've only got 3mb of apps on my internal memory according to Install Manager but still only got 3mb free.
I've tried cleaning all the cache but this only frees about 3mb.
Do updates for apps on your sdcard take up internal memory?
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before you flash a new ROM always do a full wipe from mounts & storage
>boot
>system
>data
>cache
>sd-ext
this should free up the memory for you

I didn't do that before I upgraded to the stock Gingerbread Rom, has that caused the problem? If so where do I go from here?
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Steveh8204 said:
I didn't do that before I upgraded to the stock Gingerbread Rom, has that caused the problem? If so where do I go from here?
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Wipe everything and reflash

bortak said:
Wipe everything and reflash
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I think he is completely stock desire
@op
If you are not using a custom rom and are not rooted, you only have option is to factory reset phone to default settings. Make sure you back up everything you can first.
Or just Root your phone learn how to install custom Roms with data2ext/data2sd/xd2sdx for more internal storage.

I am rooted and are looking into partitioning but was just wondering how come I have little internal memory when I moved 90% of Apps to my SD card. This was why I had to root.
Seems quite a poor fail on the part of Android. Unless it is because I didn't wipe all that Data before I flashed the custom rom.
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Steveh8204 said:
I am rooted and are looking into partitioning but was just wondering how come I have little internal memory when I moved 90% of Apps to my SD card. This was why I had to root.
Seems quite a poor fail on the part of Android. Unless it is because I didn't wipe all that Data before I flashed the custom rom.
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Whats happening mate, even tho you have moved apps to sd card not all the file really goes there. Say you download a 20MB app and move it to sd card. 15MB would go there and the other 5MB would stay at real internal filling it up. Plus dalvik cache app data ect.
Partitioning with Gparted and having an ext4 with a RoM that uses data2ext puts your ext4 has internal giving you more space.
Staying with app2sd+ only gives you a little bit more space.

Check my upload and you'll see my internal storage is just under 1gb free.
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shankly1985 said:
Whats happening mate, even tho you have moved apps to sd card not all the file really goes there. Say you download a 20MB app and move it to sd card. 15MB would go there and the other 5MB would stay at real internal filling it up. Plus dalvik cache app data ect.
Partitioning with Gparted and having an ext4 with a RoM that uses data2ext puts your ext4 has internal giving you more space.
Staying with app2sd+ only gives you a little bit more space.
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Thanks, well explained as soon as I can get near my pc I will sort out my partition.
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Had to partition with clockwork mod in the end, don't know if this affects which rom I can use.
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Steveh8204 said:
Had to partition with clockwork mod in the end, don't know if this affects which rom I can use.
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If you partitionend your SD card correctly (for your rom), it does not matter how (so with witch recovery/program) you did it.

I have a partition but no idea of what type or how to check which type.
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Steveh8204 said:
I have a partition but no idea of what type or how to check which type.
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You can check it with GParted:
http://gparted.sourceforge.net/

Steveh8204 said:
I have a partition but no idea of what type or how to check which type.
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You should use Gparted for partitioning card. say you have 16GB card first partition sould be fat32=13gb second ext4=2GB 2048MB both set to primary.
To use Gparted you burn it to CD and just boot from the disk, be careful not to format windows drive

I could not get gparted to work on my PC. From VMPlayer or Boot disc. It went so far and then just hung, about 5 times.
If I'm using CWM v4.0.1.4 what partition type am I likely to have as that was what I had to use to partition it through the advanced settings.

Steveh8204 said:
I could not get gparted to work on my PC. From VMPlayer or Boot disc. It went so far and then just hung, about 5 times.
If I'm using CWM v4.0.1.4 what partition type am I likely to have as that was what I had to use to partition it through the advanced settings.
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CWM makes it ext3.
SwiftKeyed from my HTC Desire using XDA App.

I’ve managed to get GParted to work on a different PC but when I connected my Phone and mounted the USB Card the volume came up as ‘Unallocated’.
I created a Fat32 partition and an Ext3 partition (both primary) and then connected my PC through windows to transfer the Update.zip file to my SDCard.
Then when I went to ‘update zip from sdcard’ in recovery the file didn’t show up.
When I restarted my phone after wiping data (as requested in rom installation guide) the card wasn’t recognized and asked to be reformatted so I did.
Now the card isn’t recognized by gparted. I’ve had a mare with this today (two kids driving me mad contributed to that too though in fair, lol!)

I've got my Fat32 and Ext3 partitions now and have put my recovery files on my SDCard through Windows but cannot get recovery to see my files at all.
Install Zip from SDCard doesnt see my Custom Rom, Restore doesnt see any files and won't even create a backup even though this is a Fat32 partition.
Has anyone else had this. Quite frustrating now.

Unmounted SD card in windows before trying to flash / restore something?

MatDrOiD said:
Unmounted SD card in windows before trying to flash / restore something?
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So you think the problem might be because I didn't unmount the sd card in windows after I'd put the recovery files back on?
I did unmount in cwm recovery via the back key.
Is this likely to be the reason and worth going through all the hassle again for?
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low on space

hey guys i wanna fix my low on space error and for that i would have to make a partition on my sd card
i just wanna know if its possible to make it from recovery and how so?
thanks
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JunaidZaka said:
hey guys i wanna fix my low on space error and for that i would have to make a partition on my sd card
i just wanna know if its possible to make it from recovery and how so?
thanks
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In CWM or PX recovery there is option to make partition on sd card. Search it, perhaps it is in advenced options

Before making a partition: Copy all files from you sd-card to your computer, then partition the sdcard, after partition, restore all the files again

iok1 said:
Before making a partition: Copy all files from you sd-card to your computer, then partition the sdcard, after partition, restore all the files again
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Oh, yeah, i forget to write this. Making partitions via recovery deletes all your files from sd-card. About two weeks ago I did it -,-
But making partition via PC is safy

After creating a partition on your sdcard download link2sd from market and create ext4 partition and restart your device
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so hoe much size do i have to choose for the partition
and after itd partitioned
what should i do yo transfer apps to sd?
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JunaidZaka said:
so hoe much size do i have to choose for the partition
and after itd partitioned
what should i do yo transfer apps to sd?
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For me 256 MB is fine. Then use S2E, for example, to move system apps on sd-card

wojtek267 said:
For me 256 MB is fine. Then use S2E, for example, to move system apps on sd-card
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No, dalvik cache and user apps are better in my opinion
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is 512 mb fine ?
and how to configure A2SD
just partition and then move apps to sd ?
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It's better to make partition size not more than by 10% of your sd-card.
Like if you have 8gb sd-card then you should make around 750-780mb to be on safe side

Swap Parition ?

Hello. I am new to this forum. I am curious how many people really use a swap partition and what is the method of of using swap in htc wildire s?
I am well aware of Linux OS and understand the need of swap but in case of android does it really improves something?

Hi.I will try to explain you what i know: :laugh:
-swap partition is needed to work some ROM's,combinated with ext partitions.
-you can create swap partition with MiniToolWizard
-in same time,you can create with CWM recovery.
If you need,i will give you a link for MiniTool.
If i helped you,please click "Thank's" button.Have a nice day !!

Does android automatically detect SWAP Partition on SD Card and utilize it automatically?

Yes(i think).
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does it? i thought the kernel had to had zram enabeled to allow swap use? i might be wrong though..

Most roms auto-detect, but I'd recommend checking with the devs before partitioning your sd card.
Also, unless you have a class 6 or upwards, it won't really do any good.

omnomnomkimiiee said:
Most roms auto-detect, but I'd recommend checking with the devs before partitioning your sd card.
Also, unless you have a class 6 or upwards, it won't really do any good.
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Where did u find that info?? Is class 4 mmc that bad????:s

never use a swap partition on any android phones. It does no good. The swap partition are made with your sd card which is more than 10 times slower than your internal memory. When an app is loaded or is sent to swap partition cache memory, it takes time to copy or load the files.
Android already has a system for moving unused apps to cache memory. So, let android do its job.
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.xxx. said:
never use a swap partition on any android phones. It does no good. The swap partition are made with your sd card which is more than 10 times slower than your internal memory. When an app is loaded or is sent to swap partition cache memory, it takes time to copy or load the files.
Android already has a system for moving unused apps to cache memory. So, let android do its job.
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Well thats some info for me thanks a lot.

.xxx. said:
never use a swap partition on any android phones. It does no good. The swap partition are made with your sd card which is more than 10 times slower than your internal memory. When an app is loaded or is sent to swap partition cache memory, it takes time to copy or load the files.
Android already has a system for moving unused apps to cache memory. So, let android do its job.
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This can make phone slower? Just that ?
How can i know if the swap partition is enable ?(i don't know if i have a swapt partition,i forgot that)
And if i have,all i need is to delete this ,just that ?Or i need to reinstall the rom ?

edu_stoicescu said:
This can make phone slower? Just that ?
How can i know if the swap partition is enable ?(i don't know if i have a swapt partition,i forgot that)
And if i have,all i need is to delete this ,just that ?Or i need to reinstall the rom ?
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Just ignore his comment. We need Linux swap. Without it phone gets laggy. I tested it myself.
Download minitool partition wizard home edition. Its free Google it. After installing it and insert ur sdcard via card reader and run the program.it will show ur partitions.
You don't need to uninstall ur system. Just make nandroid backup using recovery. Re format only the ext and swap partition. Based on wat ext u had earlier. All partitions should be primary.
Then from advance recovery restore sd-ext.
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@Edu: just search xda for details of swap partition. There have been number of discussions regarding it and all have ended up denying the use of swap partition. These have been comfirmed by much experienced devs, who have been cooking roms for more than 3 years. But still if you dont believe, i would recommend you to google a little and then make the decision.
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.xxx. said:
@Edu: just search xda for details of swap partition. There have been number of discussions regarding it and all have ended up denying the use of swap partition. These have been comfirmed by much experienced devs, who have been cooking roms for more than 3 years. But still if you dont believe, i would recommend you to google a little and then make the decision.
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But sir without it the phone gets very laggy. Means every games run slower. The antutu gpu score gets lowered.
U can easily get 645-630 3D with swap. But without it u can't cross 615. That may seem as little gain but for games it becomes a big issue.
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Sorry couldn't upload the pics as modify isnt supporting upload of pic.

finance.resat said:
Sorry couldn't upload the pics as modify isnt supporting upload of pic.
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Maybe that is because the extra cache memory are directly transferred to swap memory. Games which require huge cache memory can be of profit. thanks for the screens btw
@op : just take nand back up and back up your sd card. Try the swap partition thing and if it is beneficial, go ahead or else you know what to do
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Swap Partition
Hi, i'm new here so i'ld really appreciate anyone who can really help me on this:
I created a swap partition(256mb) on my sd card for my HTC wfs. now after making series of research on swap partition, i found out that swap parttion is necessarily not needed and even if i av to use the 256mb i allocated is too much. Now i need help on how to delete the swap partition without losing my DATA ON MY SDCARD. PLEASE ANYONE WITH THE RIGHT HELP

lakesYde said:
Hi, i'm new here so i'ld really appreciate anyone who can really help me on this:
I created a swap partition(256mb) on my sd card for my HTC wfs. now after making series of research on swap partition, i found out that swap parttion is necessarily not needed and even if i av to use the 256mb i allocated is too much. Now i need help on how to delete the swap partition without losing my DATA ON MY SDCARD. PLEASE ANYONE WITH THE RIGHT HELP
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that's kinda not possible i guess..with mini partition tool you can delete swap or ext3 partition and create ext4 visa versa..but if you wanted only fat32 it isn't possible.
either if you have ext3 or ext4..open mini partiiton tool..delete swap and delete ext3 or ext4(which one you have)
and create partition(ext3 or ext4) from remaining free space...in this your fat32 will be unchanged..
but obviously ext3/4 will be deleted..bt its okay to hv swap partition..256 MB hasn't big space..the whole concept of swap derived frm link2sd i guess..latest int2ext scripts dont need swap..but int2extv2+ need.

lakesYde said:
Hi, i'm new here so i'ld really appreciate anyone who can really help me on this:
I created a swap partition(256mb) on my sd card for my HTC wfs. now after making series of research on swap partition, i found out that swap parttion is necessarily not needed and even if i av to use the 256mb i allocated is too much. Now i need help on how to delete the swap partition without losing my DATA ON MY SDCARD. PLEASE ANYONE WITH THE RIGHT HELP
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Copy all of your data to your pc, then format the card via clockworkmod recovery. It should remove the partition. If not you can try gparted for linux or easeus partition master for windows pal.
If your trying to keep your ext partition but without a swap then copy your data to the pc, then select partition sdcard from clockworkmod recovery. Just don't select a swap and you will be fine
Oh, and make a nandroid backup to back up whats on your ext partition
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swap partition
crossfire77 said:
that's kinda not possible i guess..with mini partition tool you can delete swap or ext3 partition and create ext4 visa versa..but if you wanted only fat32 it isn't possible.
either if you have ext3 or ext4..open mini partiiton tool..delete swap and delete ext3 or ext4(which one you have)
and create partition(ext3 or ext4) from remaining free space...in this your fat32 will be unchanged..
but obviously ext3/4 will be deleted..bt its okay to hv swap partition..256 MB hasn't big space..the whole concept of swap derived frm link2sd i guess..latest int2ext scripts dont need swap..but int2extv2+ need.
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thanks dude really appreciate but going by what you said i have ext3 and already used a2sd that means if i delete ext3 definately i'll lose my data. that is what i'm trying to avoid but since you said my 256mb aint much a big deal, i think i wld leave it then.
Thanks a bunch.
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heavy_metal_man said:
Copy all of your data to your pc, then format the card via clockworkmod recovery. It should remove the partition. If not you can try gparted for linux or easeus partition master for windows pal.
If your trying to keep your ext partition but without a swap then copy your data to the pc, then select partition sdcard from clockworkmod recovery. Just don't select a swap and you will be fine
Oh, and make a nandroid backup to back up whats on your ext partition
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obviously i will lose my data......thanks anyway.

[Q] how to turn SD into into internal memory?

OK so I looked at a similar thread to this but I don't think I understood nor do I believe its right Ford what I want to do.I was wanting to put stock ICS on my phone but to do so will leave me with (roughly) 20 megabytes of storage left. I have been told there is a way of tricking the OS into believing the SD is internal storage I have looked on the internet and here as well and found nothing therefore I was wondering if you guys could help me out in accomplishing this. any feedback is both welcome and appreciated thanks

flash the rom, flash gapps, and on the first boot go to play store and install mounts2sd, configure it to reverse mount and select apps, data and dalvik. voila

Android01001 said:
OK so I looked at a similar thread to this but I don't think I understood nor do I believe its right Ford what I want to do.I was wanting to put stock ICS on my phone but to do so will leave me with (roughly) 20 megabytes of storage left. I have been told there is a way of tricking the OS into believing the SD is internal storage I have looked on the internet and here as well and found nothing therefore I was wondering if you guys could help me out in accomplishing this. any feedback is both welcome and appreciated thanks
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Yes this can be done quite easily using a script called a2sd or another like it.
First you need to create a ext4 partition on your sd card. It's highly recommended to use gparted(look around for guides)
Then flash a rom that has a2sd support. If you want ics/jb, I'd recommend the rom in my signature...it's great and works well with a2sd
Once in the rom, open terminal emulator and type
su
a2sd install
y
n
y
From then on all apps that you install will be moved to your sd-ext partition.

Thanks.

Android01001 said:
Thanks.
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but we need faster sd cards right?
Current ROM - Paranoidandroid 3.10 running JB 4.2.2

anilbollina said:
but we need faster sd cards right?
Current ROM - Paranoidandroid 3.10 running JB 4.2.2
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Only if you put data on sdcard
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sywats said:
Only if you put data on sdcard
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Yeah with HTC Desire i would definitely do that so i guess i shall get a class 10 card then

anilbollina said:
Yeah with HTC Desire i would definitely do that so i guess i shall get a class 10 card then
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I only put apps on ext and leave app data on internal I have plenty of space
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hey everyone,
i have a similar problem. i partitioned my sdcard into fat32 and ext4 for apps. i'm using "VJ CM10.1 | Jelly Bean 4.2.2 - v5.1" and ran the script as described in the thread (and posted here by chromium96). if i now go to system, app management and try to move an application (i tried several) to sdcard then this option is greyed out. further he shows me under app management, usb storage that no app is installed on usb (correct) but the space used seems to be my fat32 partition (he shows me 1,8gb as used which is the used space on my fat32, my ext4 is blank). is this normal or am i doing sth wrong? any suggestions?

s4scha said:
hey everyone,
i have a similar problem. i partitioned my sdcard into fat32 and ext4 for apps. i'm using "VJ CM10.1 | Jelly Bean 4.2.2 - v5.1" and ran the script as described in the thread (and posted here by chromium96). if i now go to system, app management and try to move an application (i tried several) to sdcard then this option is greyed out. further he shows me under app management, usb storage that no app is installed on usb (correct) but the space used seems to be my fat32 partition (he shows me 1,8gb as used which is the used space on my fat32, my ext4 is blank). is this normal or am i doing sth wrong? any suggestions?
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Apps move automatically to sd-ext. You don't need to move them manually.

Flash int2ext4V2 script.. And u can use ur full ext..
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abaaaabbbb63 said:
Apps move automatically to sd-ext. You don't need to move them manually.
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its a bit confusing because if i open app desciption i can see that "usb-storage-app" and "usb-storage-data" both have 0 Byte (i assumed that this is the information for the data used by the app on the sdcard).