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Hi everyone,
i was just wondering about what partition sizes I should set for my memory card using Apps2SD as I am a little unsure. I am currently using a 8 GB SD Card.
I was thinking to set it up with a 32mb swap, 512m-1gb ext2, and the remainder as fat32? Is that suffice? the ext2 size I assume is the space I would dedicate for the installation of apps.
Then after that, should we convert ext2 to ext3?
Please advise
Thank you.
Mastoid said:
I was thinking to set it up with a 32mb swap, 512m-1gb ext2, and the remainder as fat32?
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I wouldn't use swap at any time. Your phone has 578 MB of Ram - I don't know how much is left for the running system after the substraction for radio, 3d,.... but it still should be around 400MB. Using swap would just slow down your phone.
A 256 MB ext partition for programs is enough.
Greets
Kind of depends, I will for sure get a bigger partition then 256MB, some games are 20/30MB in size. Will be nice to not worry about those anymore!
I just installed apps2sd then started installing was I meant to do different? lol
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Hello guys,
I'm a newbie with Android.
I've not understood: with A2SD I can "migrate" all apps to sdcard or there is a way to choose what to have on the device and what to have on sdcard?
Thanks,
ghale
I have this question too. are all the apps going to the sdcard or you choose where to go ???? or when the phone memory fills the sdcard is used ???
and another question I have is if the sdcard apps are copy paste backup able
allla said:
I wouldn't use swap at any time. Your phone has 578 MB of Ram - I don't know how much is left for the running system after the substraction for radio, 3d,.... but it still should be around 400MB. Using swap would just slow down your phone.
A 256 MB ext partition for programs is enough.
Greets
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I have read that if set to 0, no swap partition will be created. The default is 32MB.
Im not using a swap.
I just created my ext2 using gparted on Linux. I resized the original fat32 and then used the free space to create ext2. No data was lost on original partition after resize
Nekromantik said:
Im not using a swap.
I just created my ext2 using gparted on Linux. I resized the original fat32 and then used the free space to create ext2. No data was lost on original partition after resize
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Hi there,
im not a big user of apps and won't end up installing many to the sd card. Would you suggest I set up the partitions as follows:
0mb swap, 512m-1gb ext2, and the remainder as fat32?
I have also read that if you convert EXT filesystem from EXT2 to EXT3 after partitioning, it results in better stability/performance, and by converting the EXT filesystem from EXT3 to EXT4 results in best stability/performance.
Can anyone clarify this please?
Thanks again in advance.
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Found it !
This is where i'm getting confused... this article, for example, states to allocate 32 MB to the linux-swap partition, 512 MB ext2 partition, and remaining free space as a fat32 partition (for an 8GB SD Card).
It also states this is the most common setup...
I used 980mb for my a2sd not swap and everything seems to be working just fine
FeaRThiS said:
I used 980mb for my a2sd not swap and everything seems to be working just fine
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Im just thinking... the Android OS is designed to do this for you, when it runs low on free memory it starts closing apps based on a ranking system for deciding which is 'least important' to avoid actually running out. If you later switch back to an app that the OS has removed from memory it will be reloaded from internal storage which won't be as quick as if the app was still in memory, but on the other hand it won't be any slower than if it was being loaded into RAM from the swap partition on the SD card.
Actually, I can't see swap helping... Either the Android OS will avoid running out of physical memory as it's supposed to and never actually use the swap partition, or worse it does actually use it as if it was extra physical memory (unlikely, I think) which will interfere with the sophisticated memory management scheme that's already there. Is this the reason why Android phones don't ship configured for swap? maybe because the OS is already doing something better that makes swap unnecessary?
guys I just flashed apps2sd and installed is that wrong? what else do I need to do
I'm confused lol
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Guitarfreak26 said:
guys I just flashed apps2sd and installed is that wrong? what else do I need to do
I'm confused lol
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As long as you followed the correct procedure (accessing recovery, installing the Apps2SD.zip file via recovery and set the partitions), then you are set.
I've set no partions mate all ive done is flashed it in recovery that's it
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Guitarfreak26 said:
I've set no partions mate all ive done is flashed it in recovery that's it
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Well, what would be the point of installing Apps2SD then if you did not allocated extra space to the ext2 partition
Backup everything on the SD Card before attempting:
http://android.modaco.com/content/htc-desire-desire-modaco-com/307398/apps2sd-miniguide/
I didn't know just flashed it, sorry to be a pain but what's the process now? hard reset? will I have to reinstall apps2sd? first time I've ever used it
Edit, Ill follow your guide when I'm home. is it ok to use my goldcard SD?
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oh and is there anyway to transfer current apps to the partion?
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I didn't know just flashed it, sorry to be a pain but what's the process now? hard reset? will I have to reinstall apps2sd? first time I've ever used it
Edit, Ill follow your guide when I'm home. is it ok to use my goldcard SD?
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You will not need to hard reset, just access recovery again via Linux and select the option to Partition the SD in recovery mode, enter the partition sizes you want, then you may want to select the option: convert ext3 to ext4 for improve stability/performance. Yes, use the Gold Card SD.
Using opendesire rom, and now my internal free memory is 9% and its shutting down my Widgets. I've moved everything I can to the SD card. What else can I do?
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App2sd?
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Tried that. It can't find anything to move.
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Android system info says I have 147.62 MB Max internal memory. Is this correct or can it be upped with a different rom?
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Well your widgets do not work because you moved them to the SD card...
Moved to Q&A. Please don't post question threads in Development.
Left Widgets on phone.
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you use Froyo App2SD which does not move the whole app to the SD card and some apps, like Widgets, don't work if moved at all.
If you need more free space use APP2SD+ instead, which natively is supported by OpenDesire, you just need a proper EXT partition and have to completely re-flash the ROM.
Please point me to more details on how to do that.
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backup your phone apps using Titanium Backup or MyBackup Pro, do a Nandroid backup of the whole phone (boot in Clockwork mod and use Nandroid to do a full backup)), then backup your SD-Card.
After you've finished this, open ROM Manager on your phone and use the partition tool. Create a 512MB EXT partition, no SWAP needed. Your phone will reboot, automatically enter the recovery mode, completely delete the SD card and create a 512MB partition, next to your FAT32 partition.
After that, do a full wipe in the recovery. Everything gets deleted on your phone. Then flash the latest OpenDesire ROM or any other ROM supporting A2SD+. Activate in the OpenDesire settings (menu) the internal install location, so don't set it to external or automatic. Use Titanium Backup to restore your apps (make sure that you set in the properties to install it to the internal memory).
After you've done that, or before you do the app restore, check with Quick System Info if the EXT partition gets used.
Wow that's quite a process. What exactly does that do? Is it using the SD card for part of its internal ram?
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And if so, is 512mb enough?
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gladman said:
Wow that's quite a process. What exactly does that do? Is it using the SD card for part of its internal ram?
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well, it's just creating the EXT partition and starting from scratch
Yes, it uses the SD cards EXT partition as internal ram for both the apps and the dalvik cache.
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And if so, is 512mb enough?
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For me it is. I have more than 100 apss installed, several games included. And about 200MB still free.
Where is the rom manager?
never mind found it in market.
What actually takes up internal memory as I've only got 3mb of apps on my internal memory according to Install Manager but still only got 3mb free.
I've tried cleaning all the cache but this only frees about 3mb.
Do updates for apps on your sdcard take up internal memory?
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Steveh8204 said:
What actually takes up internal memory as I've only got 3mb of apps on my internal memory according to Install Manager but still only got 3mb free.
I've tried cleaning all the cache but this only frees about 3mb.
Do updates for apps on your sdcard take up internal memory?
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before you flash a new ROM always do a full wipe from mounts & storage
>boot
>system
>data
>cache
>sd-ext
this should free up the memory for you
I didn't do that before I upgraded to the stock Gingerbread Rom, has that caused the problem? If so where do I go from here?
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Steveh8204 said:
I didn't do that before I upgraded to the stock Gingerbread Rom, has that caused the problem? If so where do I go from here?
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Wipe everything and reflash
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Wipe everything and reflash
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I think he is completely stock desire
@op
If you are not using a custom rom and are not rooted, you only have option is to factory reset phone to default settings. Make sure you back up everything you can first.
Or just Root your phone learn how to install custom Roms with data2ext/data2sd/xd2sdx for more internal storage.
I am rooted and are looking into partitioning but was just wondering how come I have little internal memory when I moved 90% of Apps to my SD card. This was why I had to root.
Seems quite a poor fail on the part of Android. Unless it is because I didn't wipe all that Data before I flashed the custom rom.
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Steveh8204 said:
I am rooted and are looking into partitioning but was just wondering how come I have little internal memory when I moved 90% of Apps to my SD card. This was why I had to root.
Seems quite a poor fail on the part of Android. Unless it is because I didn't wipe all that Data before I flashed the custom rom.
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Whats happening mate, even tho you have moved apps to sd card not all the file really goes there. Say you download a 20MB app and move it to sd card. 15MB would go there and the other 5MB would stay at real internal filling it up. Plus dalvik cache app data ect.
Partitioning with Gparted and having an ext4 with a RoM that uses data2ext puts your ext4 has internal giving you more space.
Staying with app2sd+ only gives you a little bit more space.
Check my upload and you'll see my internal storage is just under 1gb free.
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Whats happening mate, even tho you have moved apps to sd card not all the file really goes there. Say you download a 20MB app and move it to sd card. 15MB would go there and the other 5MB would stay at real internal filling it up. Plus dalvik cache app data ect.
Partitioning with Gparted and having an ext4 with a RoM that uses data2ext puts your ext4 has internal giving you more space.
Staying with app2sd+ only gives you a little bit more space.
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Thanks, well explained as soon as I can get near my pc I will sort out my partition.
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Had to partition with clockwork mod in the end, don't know if this affects which rom I can use.
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Steveh8204 said:
Had to partition with clockwork mod in the end, don't know if this affects which rom I can use.
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If you partitionend your SD card correctly (for your rom), it does not matter how (so with witch recovery/program) you did it.
I have a partition but no idea of what type or how to check which type.
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Steveh8204 said:
I have a partition but no idea of what type or how to check which type.
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You can check it with GParted:
http://gparted.sourceforge.net/
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I have a partition but no idea of what type or how to check which type.
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You should use Gparted for partitioning card. say you have 16GB card first partition sould be fat32=13gb second ext4=2GB 2048MB both set to primary.
To use Gparted you burn it to CD and just boot from the disk, be careful not to format windows drive
I could not get gparted to work on my PC. From VMPlayer or Boot disc. It went so far and then just hung, about 5 times.
If I'm using CWM v4.0.1.4 what partition type am I likely to have as that was what I had to use to partition it through the advanced settings.
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I could not get gparted to work on my PC. From VMPlayer or Boot disc. It went so far and then just hung, about 5 times.
If I'm using CWM v4.0.1.4 what partition type am I likely to have as that was what I had to use to partition it through the advanced settings.
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CWM makes it ext3.
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I’ve managed to get GParted to work on a different PC but when I connected my Phone and mounted the USB Card the volume came up as ‘Unallocated’.
I created a Fat32 partition and an Ext3 partition (both primary) and then connected my PC through windows to transfer the Update.zip file to my SDCard.
Then when I went to ‘update zip from sdcard’ in recovery the file didn’t show up.
When I restarted my phone after wiping data (as requested in rom installation guide) the card wasn’t recognized and asked to be reformatted so I did.
Now the card isn’t recognized by gparted. I’ve had a mare with this today (two kids driving me mad contributed to that too though in fair, lol!)
I've got my Fat32 and Ext3 partitions now and have put my recovery files on my SDCard through Windows but cannot get recovery to see my files at all.
Install Zip from SDCard doesnt see my Custom Rom, Restore doesnt see any files and won't even create a backup even though this is a Fat32 partition.
Has anyone else had this. Quite frustrating now.
Unmounted SD card in windows before trying to flash / restore something?
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Unmounted SD card in windows before trying to flash / restore something?
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So you think the problem might be because I didn't unmount the sd card in windows after I'd put the recovery files back on?
I did unmount in cwm recovery via the back key.
Is this likely to be the reason and worth going through all the hassle again for?
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Hi I currently have 512mb partition how do I change it to 1gb thanks. I'm using 4ext recovery.
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Hi I currently have 512mb partition how do I change it to 1gb thanks. I'm using 4ext recovery.
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You know how to make partitions with 4ext. You cant do it without losing data. Unless you use gparted
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I recommend to backup your sd card to pc first.
Then backup your sd-ext partition within 4ext if you have a stuff on the partition.
Within 4ext there should be an option to format sd partitions, then repartition with 1gb. Consider increasing it to 1.5gb if you have spare fat32 space and want to install even more apps.
Finally restore sd contents from pc and sd-ext from recovery.
Thanks guys. I thought I might be able to just increase it without doing anything else but obviously can't. Thanks again.
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dodge67 said:
Thanks guys. I thought I might be able to just increase it without doing anything else but obviously can't. Thanks again.
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You can just increase it without losing data.
What were you expecting?
Thought could do it in recovery without needing anything else.
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Thought could do it in recovery without needing anything else.
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In 4ext, you can use the "keep fat32 partition". It will save your data.
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Thought could do it in recovery without needing anything else.
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You can as above, I just recommend backing things up before just in case
how big can you make the EXT4 partition?
Hi Guys,
I am using a rather old ROM (LeeDroid) and I already increased the EXT 4 to 1Gb.
However, the phone still got full with apps.
Now I bought a bigger card, increased the EXT 4 to 2 GB, but the phone (or ROM) doesn't seem to recognize it...still cant install new apps...
Are there limitations I don't know? Is there a max size of the EXT4?
Thanks for any help...
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I recommend to backup your sd card to pc first.
Then backup your sd-ext partition within 4ext if you have a stuff on the partition.
Within 4ext there should be an option to format sd partitions, then repartition with 1gb. Consider increasing it to 1.5gb if you have spare fat32 space and want to install even more apps.
Finally restore sd contents from pc and sd-ext from recovery.
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pbeutler said:
Hi Guys,
I am using a rather old ROM (LeeDroid) and I already increased the EXT 4 to 1Gb.
However, the phone still got full with apps.
Now I bought a bigger card, increased the EXT 4 to 2 GB, but the phone (or ROM) doesn't seem to recognize it...still cant install new apps...
Are there limitations I don't know? Is there a max size of the EXT4?
Thanks for any help...
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Theres no actual maximum limit, but it highly recommended that you dont make the ext partition more than 1.5gb
OK, thanks, I will reduce it, but is that why the phone doesnt see the increase?
The change I made didnt make ANY difference...
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Theres no actual maximum limit, but it highly recommended that you dont make the ext partition more than 1.5gb
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pbeutler said:
OK, thanks, I will reduce it, but is that why the phone doesnt see the increase?
The change I made didnt make ANY difference...
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you can't just swap cards. have you restored restored the ext4 partition from the old card to the new card?
also depends which leedroid rom you are using. you can get much more space by changing hboot and installing the data++ version of his HD port, read the FAQ. this approach requires s-off.
you don't see the increase because a2sd won't report internal memory as "internal + ext". apps get moved to ext automatically. keep them on internal will trick them to sd-ext, i.e. don't manually 'move to sd'
you can use more of the ext space by also moving dalvik to sd-ext, search the leedroid threads on in that FAQ for flashable dalvik to sd zips. there will always be a limit depending on how many apps you install.
i always recommend using an app like 'diskusage' to browse all your partitions, that way you know exactly how they are filling up
Chief,
Thanks for your responses so far... I am thinking to "upgrade" but the LeeDroid 3.3.3 Data ++ ROM is no longer available to download it seems..
Any idea where I might find it?
Thanks again.
eddiehk6 said:
you can't just swap cards. have you restored restored the ext4 partition from the old card to the new card?
also depends which leedroid rom you are using. you can get much more space by changing hboot and installing the data++ version of his HD port, read the FAQ. this approach requires s-off.
you don't see the increase because a2sd won't report internal memory as "internal + ext". apps get moved to ext automatically. keep them on internal will trick them to sd-ext, i.e. don't manually 'move to sd'
you can use more of the ext space by also moving dalvik to sd-ext, search the leedroid threads on in that FAQ for flashable dalvik to sd zips. there will always be a limit depending on how many apps you install.
i always recommend using an app like 'diskusage' to browse all your partitions, that way you know exactly how they are filling up
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Hey everyone,
I have recently rooted and S-OFF my HTC Desire, using Revolutionary.
I have partitioned my SD card and installed Mounts2SD application from Google Play store. Busybox and Init.d seem to be configured ok but still, Mounts2SD doesn't seem to work and I can't get my applications to use the 1GB partition off memory that I have dedicated on my SD card.
Some help would be much appreciated!!
Thanks a lot in advance...
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1. How did you partition your sd-card?
2. Did you configure m2sd correctly?
3. Are you one of those guys who think that the internal memory itself will be larger, thus expecting to see "1148 mb" of internal storage in settings? You will still see 148 mb, but the partition will be there, doing its job.
4. What did you move to sd-ext? Try moving app and dalvik cache.
Hello,
1. To partition my SD card, I booted the phone in recovery and I partitioned it from there. And I know it's done because my SD's memory is now 1GB less.
2. All the boxes in m2sd application are checked. It doesn't let me change anything.
3. I didn't expect to see the internal memory larger.
4. From what I read, I thought that after m2sd is configured, it will move the applications itself to sd-ext. So by still seeing 126/148MB of my internal memory occupied, I suppose this didn't happen. How can I move an app manually??
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Hello,
1. To partition my SD card, I booted the phone in recovery and I partitioned it from there. And I know it's done because my SD's memory is now 1GB less.
2. All the boxes in m2sd application are checked. It doesn't let me change anything.
3. I didn't expect to see the internal memory larger.
4. From what I read, I thought that after m2sd is configured, it will move the applications itself to sd-ext. So by still seeing 126/148MB of my internal memory occupied, I suppose this didn't happen. How can I move an app manually??
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In the Content section, select "Application" and "Dalvik Cache".
What recovery do you use?
I tried checking the dalvik cache and also data, but not only nothing changes, also every time I reboot the phone it goes back to the original settings: only application is checked....
My revolutionary is RA-desire-v2.0.1
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Sorry that's my recovery, not my revolutionary...
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Sorry that's my recovery, not my revolutionary...
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Ok. That explains it. Your sd-ext wasn't done properly. Check my guide for correctly partitioning your sd-card :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=37383522#post37383522
Then use the mounts2sd flashable zip. It's safer.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1342387
I have followed your guidelines and installed 4Ext recovery. Then i partitioned my SD card with that and i installed m2sd using the flashable zip.
Then still m2sd not working and i'm still getting the annoying low space notification. So i installed FreeSpace and it seems like i don't have an ext partition. The only things it shows there are:
- Cache 40MB
- Data 147MB
- SD-card 2731MB
- System 250MB
My SD card is 3.66GB. So from that, the conclusion is that the partition was created but the system cannot access it..?? What could be wrong?? How should i proceed? Just try to partition the SD again??
Thanks a lot
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panos.c said:
I have followed your guidelines and installed 4Ext recovery. Then i partitioned my SD card with that and i installed m2sd using the flashable zip.
Then still m2sd not working and i'm still getting the annoying low space notification. So i installed FreeSpace and it seems like i don't have an ext partition. The only things it shows there are:
- Cache 40MB
- Data 147MB
- SD-card 2731MB
- System 250MB
My SD card is 3.66GB. So from that, the conclusion is that the partition was created but the system cannot access it..?? What could be wrong?? How should i proceed? Just try to partition the SD again??
Thanks a lot
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Yes, partition your sd-card again.
1gb goes to your sd-ext. It's normal for freespace to show 2731 mb.
For some reason my phone couldn't access SD-ext, even if it was partitioned correctly and in recovery it could see it. So i wiped everything and istalled a new ROM. Now it works perfectly!
Thanks a lot for the assistance!
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