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Hi,
I've just installed Teppic's '2.29.405.5' ROM' and APP2SD+ using Clockwork Recovery, all went fine but I cannot see the partition being added to the system memory.
Internal Memory shows 140MB (Factory) but I have partitioned 1GB as ex3 and 3GB as Fat32 using GParted on my 4GB Class 2 Card.
Please could someone help me, have I done something wrong?
Thanks

Are you sure FAT32 is first partition?
Also if they are primary partitions?

k3lcior said:
Are you sure FAT32 is first partition?
Also if they are primary partitions?
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Yes both are Primary partitions and Fat32 is first partition.

It's normal, system space remains the same. It only doesn't go down as fast. Strange you couldn't find the answer by searching.
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TheGhost1233 said:
It's normal, system space remains the same. It only doesn't go down as fast. Strange you couldn't find the answer by searching.
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Okay thanks. How may I keep track of the partition storage space? Titanium?

There are apps on the Market that can show you the A2SD storage space remaining, Quick System Info is one I think (can't remember)

yes quick sys info is usefull to evaluate storage... more if you use a root explorer like es explorer, U can see your app on ext3 => /systeme/sd/... you should fine some folder like APP, dalvik-cache, lost+foung etc.. which mean your a storage app installed on sd card

Utilizing ext partitions on the sdcard with the G2

Hey folks,
I spent a long time searching, but I can't seem to find an answer. I'm using my sdcard and the partitions I created from my G1. I'm running low on space on my sdcard and I realized that the ext partition is not being utilized.
I tried to move some apps to the sd card using the native apps2sd (settings > manage applications) but it seems to be moving it to the main FAT partition and not the gig I set aside as ext.
Before I repartition it and get merge the ext partition with my main partition, I wanted to know if there's any point in having an ext on the G2. If so, how do I take advantage of it (for apps and cache)?
Its an 8gb class 2 sandisk with r/w speeds of over 10mbs. Aside from the gig for ext, I also have a wee bit set aside for swap, which is just about useless now - right?
Thanks for all your help!
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Jury is still out over the need for swap with the Desire Z,some say it makes a difference but what is clear is that with the swap partition enabled,on Unity at least there is a display bug on widgets,I would say that the phone runs ok without it.

I don't mean to be rude, but I don't care about swap. The G2's performance is great. I am concerned with space and before I merge the ext3/4 partition with my main FAT partition, I wanted to know how to utilize that gig I set aside as ext.
Thanks again.
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funkeee said:
I don't mean to be rude, but I don't care about swap. The G2's performance is great. I am concerned with space and before I merge the ext3/4 partition with my main FAT partition, I wanted to know how to utilize that gig I set aside as ext.
Thanks again.
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Ok but you did ask about the swap partition being redundant or not,anyway a gig ext is a waste of space with this phone so repartition and make it smaller 128mb or 256mb should be more than enough

When I was on my rooted stock u20j I used a app called 'Link2SD' which made use of the ext2-partion to store apps on... Maybe try looking at that on the market?
Good luck!

I had an ext partition with a2ext on my G2 but honestly it wasn't needed. I have a ton of apps and still have just under 1 GB of internal memory left.
Swap, as I'm sure you're aware, is pointless on this phone. Compcache is about the only thing I'd use and even that is debatable.

MrEzzzkiel said:
When I was on my rooted stock u20j I used a app called 'Link2SD' which made use of the ext2-partion to store apps on... Maybe try looking at that on the market?
Good luck!
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Thank you! I will look into it. Do you know if the native apps2sd can be made to use the ext partition?
What I was asking in this thread is: how to make my phone use the ext partition, instead of the main partition.
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funkeee said:
Thank you! I will look into it. Do you know if the native apps2sd can be made to use the ext partition?
What I was asking in this thread is: how to make my phone use the ext partition, instead of the main partition.
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No, it won't use the ext just Fat32.
Instead of the market app, use darktremor's A2SD script. You have much more functionality with it. It also can use ext2, 3, and 4. There's an app that I'll try to locate on my computer for you that gives you a GUI to control it all once you have it installed and active.

Swap Parition ?

Hello. I am new to this forum. I am curious how many people really use a swap partition and what is the method of of using swap in htc wildire s?
I am well aware of Linux OS and understand the need of swap but in case of android does it really improves something?

Hi.I will try to explain you what i know: :laugh:
-swap partition is needed to work some ROM's,combinated with ext partitions.
-you can create swap partition with MiniToolWizard
-in same time,you can create with CWM recovery.
If you need,i will give you a link for MiniTool.
If i helped you,please click "Thank's" button.Have a nice day !!

Does android automatically detect SWAP Partition on SD Card and utilize it automatically?

Yes(i think).
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does it? i thought the kernel had to had zram enabeled to allow swap use? i might be wrong though..

Most roms auto-detect, but I'd recommend checking with the devs before partitioning your sd card.
Also, unless you have a class 6 or upwards, it won't really do any good.

omnomnomkimiiee said:
Most roms auto-detect, but I'd recommend checking with the devs before partitioning your sd card.
Also, unless you have a class 6 or upwards, it won't really do any good.
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Where did u find that info?? Is class 4 mmc that bad????:s

never use a swap partition on any android phones. It does no good. The swap partition are made with your sd card which is more than 10 times slower than your internal memory. When an app is loaded or is sent to swap partition cache memory, it takes time to copy or load the files.
Android already has a system for moving unused apps to cache memory. So, let android do its job.
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.xxx. said:
never use a swap partition on any android phones. It does no good. The swap partition are made with your sd card which is more than 10 times slower than your internal memory. When an app is loaded or is sent to swap partition cache memory, it takes time to copy or load the files.
Android already has a system for moving unused apps to cache memory. So, let android do its job.
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Well thats some info for me thanks a lot.

.xxx. said:
never use a swap partition on any android phones. It does no good. The swap partition are made with your sd card which is more than 10 times slower than your internal memory. When an app is loaded or is sent to swap partition cache memory, it takes time to copy or load the files.
Android already has a system for moving unused apps to cache memory. So, let android do its job.
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This can make phone slower? Just that ?
How can i know if the swap partition is enable ?(i don't know if i have a swapt partition,i forgot that)
And if i have,all i need is to delete this ,just that ?Or i need to reinstall the rom ?

edu_stoicescu said:
This can make phone slower? Just that ?
How can i know if the swap partition is enable ?(i don't know if i have a swapt partition,i forgot that)
And if i have,all i need is to delete this ,just that ?Or i need to reinstall the rom ?
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Just ignore his comment. We need Linux swap. Without it phone gets laggy. I tested it myself.
Download minitool partition wizard home edition. Its free Google it. After installing it and insert ur sdcard via card reader and run the program.it will show ur partitions.
You don't need to uninstall ur system. Just make nandroid backup using recovery. Re format only the ext and swap partition. Based on wat ext u had earlier. All partitions should be primary.
Then from advance recovery restore sd-ext.
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@Edu: just search xda for details of swap partition. There have been number of discussions regarding it and all have ended up denying the use of swap partition. These have been comfirmed by much experienced devs, who have been cooking roms for more than 3 years. But still if you dont believe, i would recommend you to google a little and then make the decision.
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.xxx. said:
@Edu: just search xda for details of swap partition. There have been number of discussions regarding it and all have ended up denying the use of swap partition. These have been comfirmed by much experienced devs, who have been cooking roms for more than 3 years. But still if you dont believe, i would recommend you to google a little and then make the decision.
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But sir without it the phone gets very laggy. Means every games run slower. The antutu gpu score gets lowered.
U can easily get 645-630 3D with swap. But without it u can't cross 615. That may seem as little gain but for games it becomes a big issue.
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Sorry couldn't upload the pics as modify isnt supporting upload of pic.

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Sorry couldn't upload the pics as modify isnt supporting upload of pic.
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Maybe that is because the extra cache memory are directly transferred to swap memory. Games which require huge cache memory can be of profit. thanks for the screens btw
@op : just take nand back up and back up your sd card. Try the swap partition thing and if it is beneficial, go ahead or else you know what to do
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Swap Partition
Hi, i'm new here so i'ld really appreciate anyone who can really help me on this:
I created a swap partition(256mb) on my sd card for my HTC wfs. now after making series of research on swap partition, i found out that swap parttion is necessarily not needed and even if i av to use the 256mb i allocated is too much. Now i need help on how to delete the swap partition without losing my DATA ON MY SDCARD. PLEASE ANYONE WITH THE RIGHT HELP

lakesYde said:
Hi, i'm new here so i'ld really appreciate anyone who can really help me on this:
I created a swap partition(256mb) on my sd card for my HTC wfs. now after making series of research on swap partition, i found out that swap parttion is necessarily not needed and even if i av to use the 256mb i allocated is too much. Now i need help on how to delete the swap partition without losing my DATA ON MY SDCARD. PLEASE ANYONE WITH THE RIGHT HELP
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that's kinda not possible i guess..with mini partition tool you can delete swap or ext3 partition and create ext4 visa versa..but if you wanted only fat32 it isn't possible.
either if you have ext3 or ext4..open mini partiiton tool..delete swap and delete ext3 or ext4(which one you have)
and create partition(ext3 or ext4) from remaining free space...in this your fat32 will be unchanged..
but obviously ext3/4 will be deleted..bt its okay to hv swap partition..256 MB hasn't big space..the whole concept of swap derived frm link2sd i guess..latest int2ext scripts dont need swap..but int2extv2+ need.

lakesYde said:
Hi, i'm new here so i'ld really appreciate anyone who can really help me on this:
I created a swap partition(256mb) on my sd card for my HTC wfs. now after making series of research on swap partition, i found out that swap parttion is necessarily not needed and even if i av to use the 256mb i allocated is too much. Now i need help on how to delete the swap partition without losing my DATA ON MY SDCARD. PLEASE ANYONE WITH THE RIGHT HELP
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Copy all of your data to your pc, then format the card via clockworkmod recovery. It should remove the partition. If not you can try gparted for linux or easeus partition master for windows pal.
If your trying to keep your ext partition but without a swap then copy your data to the pc, then select partition sdcard from clockworkmod recovery. Just don't select a swap and you will be fine
Oh, and make a nandroid backup to back up whats on your ext partition
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swap partition
crossfire77 said:
that's kinda not possible i guess..with mini partition tool you can delete swap or ext3 partition and create ext4 visa versa..but if you wanted only fat32 it isn't possible.
either if you have ext3 or ext4..open mini partiiton tool..delete swap and delete ext3 or ext4(which one you have)
and create partition(ext3 or ext4) from remaining free space...in this your fat32 will be unchanged..
but obviously ext3/4 will be deleted..bt its okay to hv swap partition..256 MB hasn't big space..the whole concept of swap derived frm link2sd i guess..latest int2ext scripts dont need swap..but int2extv2+ need.
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thanks dude really appreciate but going by what you said i have ext3 and already used a2sd that means if i delete ext3 definately i'll lose my data. that is what i'm trying to avoid but since you said my 256mb aint much a big deal, i think i wld leave it then.
Thanks a bunch.
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heavy_metal_man said:
Copy all of your data to your pc, then format the card via clockworkmod recovery. It should remove the partition. If not you can try gparted for linux or easeus partition master for windows pal.
If your trying to keep your ext partition but without a swap then copy your data to the pc, then select partition sdcard from clockworkmod recovery. Just don't select a swap and you will be fine
Oh, and make a nandroid backup to back up whats on your ext partition
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obviously i will lose my data......thanks anyway.

SD Partition on 32 GB card?

Hey guys,
I've searched around a lot but haven't found anything explicit to a 32 GB card's ideal partition table. I've read somewhere that the ext3 shouldn't be larger than 2 GB, is this really the case? Or is it device specific? And if thats the case, can the MT3G3 handle a larger than 2GB partition? Also, is there a point to having a swap partition? I know on Linux systems it helps with memory and the XDA SD partition guide mentions that we can have one if we wanted .. but is there a point to it?
My second question is ... should I get data2ext or a2ext? Or some other tool? The choice is pretty confusing, esp since it seems that some of them do the same thing?
I'm thinking about making the partitions equal between FAT32 and Ext3 (if swap won't make a difference).
PS - Its a Class 10 Sandisk card.

eMJaaay said:
Hey guys,
I've searched around a lot but haven't found anything explicit to a 32 GB card's ideal partition table. I've read somewhere that the ext3 shouldn't be larger than 2 GB, is this really the case? Or is it device specific? And if thats the case, can the MT3G3 handle a larger than 2GB partition? Also, is there a point to having a swap partition? I know on Linux systems it helps with memory and the XDA SD partition guide mentions that we can have one if we wanted .. but is there a point to it?
My second question is ... should I get data2ext or a2ext? Or some other tool? The choice is pretty confusing, esp since it seems that some of them do the same thing?
I'm thinking about making the partitions equal between FAT32 and Ext3 (if swap won't make a difference).
PS - Its a Class 10 Sandisk card.
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don't know what a mt3gs works with, 32 should work but no larger I doubt. as for an ext partition there is no reason to make it smaller than internal memory and 2gb should be more than enough, I have never even used more than 1gb but 1~2gb should be the perfect point.
not sure if any of the roms here support ext4, if they do I would recomend that over ext3, it won't ware the card much fast (the extra journaling does but not much)
personaly kinux swap doesn't help much, not even on the g1 but give it a shot and see if it works for you, will help with multitasking
use apps2ext for sure, not data as it will be slow
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Thanks so much for the reply
I'll give this a go! I might as well have a swap partition as well since I have so much space should the swap be smaller than the ext3 partition? I'll also look into apps2ext .. but earlier came across int2ext in CronMod .. would that work?

eMJaaay said:
I'll give this a go! I might as well have a swap partition as well since I have so much space should the swap be smaller than the ext3 partition? I'll also look into apps2ext .. but earlier came across int2ext in CronMod .. would that work?
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I'm not sure if creating swap on sd is supported on this device (at least, CM7). When I tried to partition SD using Rom Manager the device didn't see my ext partition if I selected swap partition size more than 0.
As for apps for managing ext partition usage, s2e app worked for me all right on CM9 and CM7. If you device is running CM9 you should be extra careful with such software. In example, Link2SD caused much trouble for me - constant app FC and I had to reinstall the system.
And be careful - it seems that s2e wipes ext partition at the first mount.
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If im not mistaken, your kernel has to support using a swap partition.
Look into darktremors apps2sd. A. Lot of folks seemed to like that. It allows you to choose different setups if I remember right. (A2sd, data2sd, etc)
Data2sd would prob work ok since you have a class 10 card.
Also, if you are needing more space and are running a custom rom, look up mtd partitions in development forum.
Another nice trick is bind-mount data to cache.
Mt3gs does not support higher than 32gb. Ext4 support I think is available but only through kernels or scripts.
Hope that helps.
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Different ROMs support different a2sd scripts.....you will have to find a script compatible with your ROM.
I use A2SDGUI on my phone.
A swap partition acts a virtual ram for your phone if you run low on ram memory.Not required though.
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Thanks for the replies everyone
I'm running CM7.2 which has built in moving to SD but this hardly does anything :/ I've only got around 7 apps half of which I can't even update cos its running low on space :/
Quite a few partition articles / posts, etc mention ext3 no larger than 2 GB and a swap of 0 MB :/ I've got the CM kernel that came with the last stable release (in June this year) .. does that support swap? Is there even a point of adding a swap of 0 MB .. might as well not make a swap partition at all right? I'm partitioning using Gparted on my Linux! I think S2E supports that!
Seriously guys, thank you so so much for all your replies

Update: Link2SD didn't work. S2E worked on S-ON with a 28 ish GB FAT32 Primary Partition and a 2048 MB i.e 2 GB EXT4 partition.

Make bigger partition.

Hi I currently have 512mb partition how do I change it to 1gb thanks. I'm using 4ext recovery.
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dodge67 said:
Hi I currently have 512mb partition how do I change it to 1gb thanks. I'm using 4ext recovery.
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You know how to make partitions with 4ext. You cant do it without losing data. Unless you use gparted
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I recommend to backup your sd card to pc first.
Then backup your sd-ext partition within 4ext if you have a stuff on the partition.
Within 4ext there should be an option to format sd partitions, then repartition with 1gb. Consider increasing it to 1.5gb if you have spare fat32 space and want to install even more apps.
Finally restore sd contents from pc and sd-ext from recovery.

Thanks guys. I thought I might be able to just increase it without doing anything else but obviously can't. Thanks again.
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dodge67 said:
Thanks guys. I thought I might be able to just increase it without doing anything else but obviously can't. Thanks again.
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You can just increase it without losing data.
What were you expecting?

Thought could do it in recovery without needing anything else.
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dodge67 said:
Thought could do it in recovery without needing anything else.
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In 4ext, you can use the "keep fat32 partition". It will save your data.

dodge67 said:
Thought could do it in recovery without needing anything else.
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You can as above, I just recommend backing things up before just in case

how big can you make the EXT4 partition?
Hi Guys,
I am using a rather old ROM (LeeDroid) and I already increased the EXT 4 to 1Gb.
However, the phone still got full with apps.
Now I bought a bigger card, increased the EXT 4 to 2 GB, but the phone (or ROM) doesn't seem to recognize it...still cant install new apps...
Are there limitations I don't know? Is there a max size of the EXT4?
Thanks for any help...
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I recommend to backup your sd card to pc first.
Then backup your sd-ext partition within 4ext if you have a stuff on the partition.
Within 4ext there should be an option to format sd partitions, then repartition with 1gb. Consider increasing it to 1.5gb if you have spare fat32 space and want to install even more apps.
Finally restore sd contents from pc and sd-ext from recovery.
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pbeutler said:
Hi Guys,
I am using a rather old ROM (LeeDroid) and I already increased the EXT 4 to 1Gb.
However, the phone still got full with apps.
Now I bought a bigger card, increased the EXT 4 to 2 GB, but the phone (or ROM) doesn't seem to recognize it...still cant install new apps...
Are there limitations I don't know? Is there a max size of the EXT4?
Thanks for any help...
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Theres no actual maximum limit, but it highly recommended that you dont make the ext partition more than 1.5gb

OK, thanks, I will reduce it, but is that why the phone doesnt see the increase?
The change I made didnt make ANY difference...
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Theres no actual maximum limit, but it highly recommended that you dont make the ext partition more than 1.5gb
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pbeutler said:
OK, thanks, I will reduce it, but is that why the phone doesnt see the increase?
The change I made didnt make ANY difference...
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you can't just swap cards. have you restored restored the ext4 partition from the old card to the new card?
also depends which leedroid rom you are using. you can get much more space by changing hboot and installing the data++ version of his HD port, read the FAQ. this approach requires s-off.
you don't see the increase because a2sd won't report internal memory as "internal + ext". apps get moved to ext automatically. keep them on internal will trick them to sd-ext, i.e. don't manually 'move to sd'
you can use more of the ext space by also moving dalvik to sd-ext, search the leedroid threads on in that FAQ for flashable dalvik to sd zips. there will always be a limit depending on how many apps you install.
i always recommend using an app like 'diskusage' to browse all your partitions, that way you know exactly how they are filling up

Chief,
Thanks for your responses so far... I am thinking to "upgrade" but the LeeDroid 3.3.3 Data ++ ROM is no longer available to download it seems..
Any idea where I might find it?
Thanks again.
eddiehk6 said:
you can't just swap cards. have you restored restored the ext4 partition from the old card to the new card?
also depends which leedroid rom you are using. you can get much more space by changing hboot and installing the data++ version of his HD port, read the FAQ. this approach requires s-off.
you don't see the increase because a2sd won't report internal memory as "internal + ext". apps get moved to ext automatically. keep them on internal will trick them to sd-ext, i.e. don't manually 'move to sd'
you can use more of the ext space by also moving dalvik to sd-ext, search the leedroid threads on in that FAQ for flashable dalvik to sd zips. there will always be a limit depending on how many apps you install.
i always recommend using an app like 'diskusage' to browse all your partitions, that way you know exactly how they are filling up
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