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Hi,
I've just installed Teppic's '2.29.405.5' ROM' and APP2SD+ using Clockwork Recovery, all went fine but I cannot see the partition being added to the system memory.
Internal Memory shows 140MB (Factory) but I have partitioned 1GB as ex3 and 3GB as Fat32 using GParted on my 4GB Class 2 Card.
Please could someone help me, have I done something wrong?
Thanks

Are you sure FAT32 is first partition?
Also if they are primary partitions?

k3lcior said:
Are you sure FAT32 is first partition?
Also if they are primary partitions?
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Yes both are Primary partitions and Fat32 is first partition.

It's normal, system space remains the same. It only doesn't go down as fast. Strange you couldn't find the answer by searching.
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TheGhost1233 said:
It's normal, system space remains the same. It only doesn't go down as fast. Strange you couldn't find the answer by searching.
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Okay thanks. How may I keep track of the partition storage space? Titanium?

There are apps on the Market that can show you the A2SD storage space remaining, Quick System Info is one I think (can't remember)

yes quick sys info is usefull to evaluate storage... more if you use a root explorer like es explorer, U can see your app on ext3 => /systeme/sd/... you should fine some folder like APP, dalvik-cache, lost+foung etc.. which mean your a storage app installed on sd card

[Q] internal storage/system storage

so i have been removing unwanted system apps with apps2sd, but i havent gotten barely any storage back? So i looked in the manage apps section of ROM toolbox and found that under system apps there is system storage, and under internal there is internal storage. Is there any way to merge the two to get more space?
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Alaadragonfire said:
Hey there I used to face this problem as you, what you have to do is open the terminal and right in it the following :
su
Then hit enter it will give you access as a super user then type:
a2sd cachesdreset
Now it will move all your dalvik-cache to the ext partition
And you will have around 90 mb free on your internal
Hit thanks if it helped you
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I try this one also...thanks for the info

I noticed it said partition? Does this mean i need to partition my sd card? Because i have been holding off on that until i back my sd card up.
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Yea you have to make 2 partitions one is fat32 and the other is ext2 but back everything on the memory card first
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Alaadragonfire said:
Alaadragonfire said:
Hey there I used to face this problem as you, what you have to do is open the terminal and right in it the following :
su
Then hit enter it will give you access as a super user then type:
a2sd cachesdreset
Now it will move all your dalvik-cache to the ext partition
And you will have around 90 mb free on your internal
Hit thanks if it helped you
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My 2GB SD Card has 3 partitions, the 1st is FAT(810mb), the 2nd is EXT2(510mb), and the 3rd is SWAP LINUX(512mb). When I typed the command above I saw a couple options checked in square brackets:
[x] No a2sd.swap environment variable found
[x] Problem detected: Darktremor Apps2SD may not have ran
[x] EXT partition is not mounted. Cannot continue.
Is there any way to fix it? Thank you in advance.
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What is the ROM you are using? it seems it doesn't support a2sd anyway go to the play store and download an app called a2sdgui then open it and go to info tab check if it show your ext partition and swap if it does go to tab dalvik and press on move dalvik to sd ext then it will reboot and its gonna take some time to boot as well don't worry once it start go to storage info and your internal storage should be around 90 mb or more
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if you r using custom rom and it support Data2sd then istall data2sd.. after the partition creation...

Alaadragonfire said:
What is the ROM you are using? it seems it doesn't support a2sd anyway go to the play store and download an app called a2sdgui then open it and go to info tab check if it show your ext partition and swap if it does go to tab dalvik and press on move dalvik to sd ext then it will reboot and its gonna take some time to boot as well don't worry once it start go to storage info and your internal storage should be around 90 mb or more
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How do I see my ROM?
I downloaded the app as you said and looks like it is working now, but when I press the "Swap is deactivated!" button in the first tab, it doesn't turn on. I formatted my 2SD card in CWM
EXT Partition: 512MB
SWAP: 256
Now , back on my PC, it shows that my card has only 1.12GB size. I don't know how to put my swap to work. Any idea would be great appreciatted.

Completely Format the SD card.. with any LLF(Low level Format) tools. It Just erase the partition Info and make it fresh. then Just use Partition manager such as Minitool, Easus partition to create FAT, ex3 or ex4, the swap. Then do the same process.

balakrishnan111 said:
Completely Format the SD card.. with any LLF(Low level Format) tools. It Just erase the partition Info and make it fresh. then Just use Partition manager such as Minitool, Easus partition to create FAT, ex3 or ex4, the swap. Then do the same process.
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I formated only the last partition, which is the swap partition, using Mini Tool Wizard Partition Home Edition, and it still not working. I am afraid to format the whole card because I don't know how to recover all the apps that I already downloaded and installed. Would you know to do it? I got a back up in my PC hard drive. Only moving the files into back the card is not enough because I can't see it in my phone.

Portugah said:
I formated only the last partition, which is the swap partition, using Mini Tool Wizard Partition Home Edition, and it still not working. I am afraid to format the whole card because I don't know how to recover all the apps that I already downloaded and installed. Would you know to do it? I got a back up in my PC hard drive. Only moving the files into back the card is not enough because I can't see it in my phone.
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use root explorer to copy the apk files of your downloaded applications.u can find that in data/apps.....
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How do I change my ROM? which ROM do you recomend for my Device? WILDFIRE S Metro Pcs?
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Alaadragonfire said:
What is the ROM you are using? it seems it doesn't support a2sd anyway go to the play store and download an app called a2sdgui then open it and go to info tab check if it show your ext partition and swap if it does go to tab dalvik and press on move dalvik to sd ext then it will reboot and its gonna take some time to boot as well don't worry once it start go to storage info and your internal storage should be around 90 mb or more
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Can I change my ROM? is there any tutorial? which ROM should I use?
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Can I change my ROM and install a better one? Which ROM should I use? is there any tutorial?

There aren't tutorials on what ROM you might choose. There is probably a sticky that list the ROMs with links to threads. You can go to the various threads, read, and make an informed choice... Or keep asking for ppl's opinion. You will find ROMs vary and you may prefer one for say the pretty widgets; Another might want a minimalist ROM. Not really a best rom; there is only what you feel is best for you.
Rob
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Swap Parition ?

Hello. I am new to this forum. I am curious how many people really use a swap partition and what is the method of of using swap in htc wildire s?
I am well aware of Linux OS and understand the need of swap but in case of android does it really improves something?

Hi.I will try to explain you what i know: :laugh:
-swap partition is needed to work some ROM's,combinated with ext partitions.
-you can create swap partition with MiniToolWizard
-in same time,you can create with CWM recovery.
If you need,i will give you a link for MiniTool.
If i helped you,please click "Thank's" button.Have a nice day !!

Does android automatically detect SWAP Partition on SD Card and utilize it automatically?

Yes(i think).
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does it? i thought the kernel had to had zram enabeled to allow swap use? i might be wrong though..

Most roms auto-detect, but I'd recommend checking with the devs before partitioning your sd card.
Also, unless you have a class 6 or upwards, it won't really do any good.

omnomnomkimiiee said:
Most roms auto-detect, but I'd recommend checking with the devs before partitioning your sd card.
Also, unless you have a class 6 or upwards, it won't really do any good.
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Where did u find that info?? Is class 4 mmc that bad????:s

never use a swap partition on any android phones. It does no good. The swap partition are made with your sd card which is more than 10 times slower than your internal memory. When an app is loaded or is sent to swap partition cache memory, it takes time to copy or load the files.
Android already has a system for moving unused apps to cache memory. So, let android do its job.
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.xxx. said:
never use a swap partition on any android phones. It does no good. The swap partition are made with your sd card which is more than 10 times slower than your internal memory. When an app is loaded or is sent to swap partition cache memory, it takes time to copy or load the files.
Android already has a system for moving unused apps to cache memory. So, let android do its job.
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Well thats some info for me thanks a lot.

.xxx. said:
never use a swap partition on any android phones. It does no good. The swap partition are made with your sd card which is more than 10 times slower than your internal memory. When an app is loaded or is sent to swap partition cache memory, it takes time to copy or load the files.
Android already has a system for moving unused apps to cache memory. So, let android do its job.
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This can make phone slower? Just that ?
How can i know if the swap partition is enable ?(i don't know if i have a swapt partition,i forgot that)
And if i have,all i need is to delete this ,just that ?Or i need to reinstall the rom ?

edu_stoicescu said:
This can make phone slower? Just that ?
How can i know if the swap partition is enable ?(i don't know if i have a swapt partition,i forgot that)
And if i have,all i need is to delete this ,just that ?Or i need to reinstall the rom ?
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Just ignore his comment. We need Linux swap. Without it phone gets laggy. I tested it myself.
Download minitool partition wizard home edition. Its free Google it. After installing it and insert ur sdcard via card reader and run the program.it will show ur partitions.
You don't need to uninstall ur system. Just make nandroid backup using recovery. Re format only the ext and swap partition. Based on wat ext u had earlier. All partitions should be primary.
Then from advance recovery restore sd-ext.
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@Edu: just search xda for details of swap partition. There have been number of discussions regarding it and all have ended up denying the use of swap partition. These have been comfirmed by much experienced devs, who have been cooking roms for more than 3 years. But still if you dont believe, i would recommend you to google a little and then make the decision.
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.xxx. said:
@Edu: just search xda for details of swap partition. There have been number of discussions regarding it and all have ended up denying the use of swap partition. These have been comfirmed by much experienced devs, who have been cooking roms for more than 3 years. But still if you dont believe, i would recommend you to google a little and then make the decision.
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But sir without it the phone gets very laggy. Means every games run slower. The antutu gpu score gets lowered.
U can easily get 645-630 3D with swap. But without it u can't cross 615. That may seem as little gain but for games it becomes a big issue.
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Sorry couldn't upload the pics as modify isnt supporting upload of pic.

finance.resat said:
Sorry couldn't upload the pics as modify isnt supporting upload of pic.
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Maybe that is because the extra cache memory are directly transferred to swap memory. Games which require huge cache memory can be of profit. thanks for the screens btw
@op : just take nand back up and back up your sd card. Try the swap partition thing and if it is beneficial, go ahead or else you know what to do
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Swap Partition
Hi, i'm new here so i'ld really appreciate anyone who can really help me on this:
I created a swap partition(256mb) on my sd card for my HTC wfs. now after making series of research on swap partition, i found out that swap parttion is necessarily not needed and even if i av to use the 256mb i allocated is too much. Now i need help on how to delete the swap partition without losing my DATA ON MY SDCARD. PLEASE ANYONE WITH THE RIGHT HELP

lakesYde said:
Hi, i'm new here so i'ld really appreciate anyone who can really help me on this:
I created a swap partition(256mb) on my sd card for my HTC wfs. now after making series of research on swap partition, i found out that swap parttion is necessarily not needed and even if i av to use the 256mb i allocated is too much. Now i need help on how to delete the swap partition without losing my DATA ON MY SDCARD. PLEASE ANYONE WITH THE RIGHT HELP
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that's kinda not possible i guess..with mini partition tool you can delete swap or ext3 partition and create ext4 visa versa..but if you wanted only fat32 it isn't possible.
either if you have ext3 or ext4..open mini partiiton tool..delete swap and delete ext3 or ext4(which one you have)
and create partition(ext3 or ext4) from remaining free space...in this your fat32 will be unchanged..
but obviously ext3/4 will be deleted..bt its okay to hv swap partition..256 MB hasn't big space..the whole concept of swap derived frm link2sd i guess..latest int2ext scripts dont need swap..but int2extv2+ need.

lakesYde said:
Hi, i'm new here so i'ld really appreciate anyone who can really help me on this:
I created a swap partition(256mb) on my sd card for my HTC wfs. now after making series of research on swap partition, i found out that swap parttion is necessarily not needed and even if i av to use the 256mb i allocated is too much. Now i need help on how to delete the swap partition without losing my DATA ON MY SDCARD. PLEASE ANYONE WITH THE RIGHT HELP
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Copy all of your data to your pc, then format the card via clockworkmod recovery. It should remove the partition. If not you can try gparted for linux or easeus partition master for windows pal.
If your trying to keep your ext partition but without a swap then copy your data to the pc, then select partition sdcard from clockworkmod recovery. Just don't select a swap and you will be fine
Oh, and make a nandroid backup to back up whats on your ext partition
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swap partition
crossfire77 said:
that's kinda not possible i guess..with mini partition tool you can delete swap or ext3 partition and create ext4 visa versa..but if you wanted only fat32 it isn't possible.
either if you have ext3 or ext4..open mini partiiton tool..delete swap and delete ext3 or ext4(which one you have)
and create partition(ext3 or ext4) from remaining free space...in this your fat32 will be unchanged..
but obviously ext3/4 will be deleted..bt its okay to hv swap partition..256 MB hasn't big space..the whole concept of swap derived frm link2sd i guess..latest int2ext scripts dont need swap..but int2extv2+ need.
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thanks dude really appreciate but going by what you said i have ext3 and already used a2sd that means if i delete ext3 definately i'll lose my data. that is what i'm trying to avoid but since you said my 256mb aint much a big deal, i think i wld leave it then.
Thanks a bunch.
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heavy_metal_man said:
Copy all of your data to your pc, then format the card via clockworkmod recovery. It should remove the partition. If not you can try gparted for linux or easeus partition master for windows pal.
If your trying to keep your ext partition but without a swap then copy your data to the pc, then select partition sdcard from clockworkmod recovery. Just don't select a swap and you will be fine
Oh, and make a nandroid backup to back up whats on your ext partition
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obviously i will lose my data......thanks anyway.

S2e for Android 4.2

I got a random solution to get a working S2e on Android 4.2!
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Wrong place. Post this in the general thread. But I think some other a2sd scripts might be working with the release already.
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sandy4u said:
I got a random solution to get a working S2e on Android 4.2!
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This version starts, but I can`t check any options. Program does not see my EXT partition. CM10.1 by Wayland_ACE.

You must provide original link for this app:
Working Simple2Ext for Android 4.2

Lovetz said:
This version starts, but I can`t check any options. Program does not see my EXT partition. CM10.1 by Wayland_ACE.
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Re-make partition on SD card with the help of CWM and now this app works well.

How to remake partition on SD card in cwm. Help will be appreciated.
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jaganmohans said:
How to remake partition on SD card in cwm. Help will be appreciated.
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0. Make backup of your SD card to PC.
1. Reboot to CWM\Recovery
2. Select "advanced" -> "Partition SD Card"
3. At the top of the screen you can see: "Ext Size" - this is the size of your future ext partition (you can choose any size you want, but 512 Mb more than enough)
4. Next you will see: "Swap Size" - the size of your future Swap partition. If you do not need in Swap, choose "0Mb"
5. Wait for the end of the process. WARNING! All of your data on the memory card will be deleted.
6. Reboot system now

this app is like Link2SD: only moving some apps on a ext partition
or this increasses internal memory?

blake2893 said:
this app is like Link2SD: only moving some apps on a ext partition
or this increasses internal memory?
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It can do more than Link2SD, it can link /data/data to sd card's second partition

i mounted as ext4 and rebooted but when i checked partition info, it says zero.

This doesn't work on CM 10.1 pro.

it works on olddroids latest nightly, but only with ext4! faster than mounts2sd, and frees up more space than link2sd and it seems stable after 1 day
it works on 4.2.2.beta7 too, just make it system app and make an ext4 than tick ext4 without journaling
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Make bigger partition.

Hi I currently have 512mb partition how do I change it to 1gb thanks. I'm using 4ext recovery.
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dodge67 said:
Hi I currently have 512mb partition how do I change it to 1gb thanks. I'm using 4ext recovery.
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You know how to make partitions with 4ext. You cant do it without losing data. Unless you use gparted
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I recommend to backup your sd card to pc first.
Then backup your sd-ext partition within 4ext if you have a stuff on the partition.
Within 4ext there should be an option to format sd partitions, then repartition with 1gb. Consider increasing it to 1.5gb if you have spare fat32 space and want to install even more apps.
Finally restore sd contents from pc and sd-ext from recovery.

Thanks guys. I thought I might be able to just increase it without doing anything else but obviously can't. Thanks again.
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dodge67 said:
Thanks guys. I thought I might be able to just increase it without doing anything else but obviously can't. Thanks again.
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You can just increase it without losing data.
What were you expecting?

Thought could do it in recovery without needing anything else.
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dodge67 said:
Thought could do it in recovery without needing anything else.
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In 4ext, you can use the "keep fat32 partition". It will save your data.

dodge67 said:
Thought could do it in recovery without needing anything else.
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You can as above, I just recommend backing things up before just in case

how big can you make the EXT4 partition?
Hi Guys,
I am using a rather old ROM (LeeDroid) and I already increased the EXT 4 to 1Gb.
However, the phone still got full with apps.
Now I bought a bigger card, increased the EXT 4 to 2 GB, but the phone (or ROM) doesn't seem to recognize it...still cant install new apps...
Are there limitations I don't know? Is there a max size of the EXT4?
Thanks for any help...
eddiehk6 said:
I recommend to backup your sd card to pc first.
Then backup your sd-ext partition within 4ext if you have a stuff on the partition.
Within 4ext there should be an option to format sd partitions, then repartition with 1gb. Consider increasing it to 1.5gb if you have spare fat32 space and want to install even more apps.
Finally restore sd contents from pc and sd-ext from recovery.
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pbeutler said:
Hi Guys,
I am using a rather old ROM (LeeDroid) and I already increased the EXT 4 to 1Gb.
However, the phone still got full with apps.
Now I bought a bigger card, increased the EXT 4 to 2 GB, but the phone (or ROM) doesn't seem to recognize it...still cant install new apps...
Are there limitations I don't know? Is there a max size of the EXT4?
Thanks for any help...
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Theres no actual maximum limit, but it highly recommended that you dont make the ext partition more than 1.5gb

OK, thanks, I will reduce it, but is that why the phone doesnt see the increase?
The change I made didnt make ANY difference...
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Theres no actual maximum limit, but it highly recommended that you dont make the ext partition more than 1.5gb
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pbeutler said:
OK, thanks, I will reduce it, but is that why the phone doesnt see the increase?
The change I made didnt make ANY difference...
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you can't just swap cards. have you restored restored the ext4 partition from the old card to the new card?
also depends which leedroid rom you are using. you can get much more space by changing hboot and installing the data++ version of his HD port, read the FAQ. this approach requires s-off.
you don't see the increase because a2sd won't report internal memory as "internal + ext". apps get moved to ext automatically. keep them on internal will trick them to sd-ext, i.e. don't manually 'move to sd'
you can use more of the ext space by also moving dalvik to sd-ext, search the leedroid threads on in that FAQ for flashable dalvik to sd zips. there will always be a limit depending on how many apps you install.
i always recommend using an app like 'diskusage' to browse all your partitions, that way you know exactly how they are filling up

Chief,
Thanks for your responses so far... I am thinking to "upgrade" but the LeeDroid 3.3.3 Data ++ ROM is no longer available to download it seems..
Any idea where I might find it?
Thanks again.
eddiehk6 said:
you can't just swap cards. have you restored restored the ext4 partition from the old card to the new card?
also depends which leedroid rom you are using. you can get much more space by changing hboot and installing the data++ version of his HD port, read the FAQ. this approach requires s-off.
you don't see the increase because a2sd won't report internal memory as "internal + ext". apps get moved to ext automatically. keep them on internal will trick them to sd-ext, i.e. don't manually 'move to sd'
you can use more of the ext space by also moving dalvik to sd-ext, search the leedroid threads on in that FAQ for flashable dalvik to sd zips. there will always be a limit depending on how many apps you install.
i always recommend using an app like 'diskusage' to browse all your partitions, that way you know exactly how they are filling up
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