What is the disadvantage having s-on. If we can still root what is the problem. Why exactly do we need s-off
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KrisPerry said:
What is the disadvantage having s-on. If we can still root what is the problem. Why exactly do we need s-off
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It give us unlimited permission to modify the system partition etc. changing Boot screen etc.
There is a detailed thread that's right at top of the general forum that covers this in depth.
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It also allows direct access to all partitions on the phone so we can learn a lot more about it. Will be able to flash boot.img via recovery with the rom (no need for fastboot flash), we can flash modified hboot/bootloader if we wish to as well. Plenty of possibilities.
None of this is possible with s-on, even if you are htcdev unlocked.
M.
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I have had my one x for a week now rooted and unlocked via htd.dev just wondering if I can change my s-on to s-off?
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There's no way off getting s-off just yet unless I'm mistaken
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bozza1001 said:
I have had my one x for a week now rooted and unlocked via htd.dev just wondering if I can change my s-on to s-off?
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If you have to ask that question then there is no possible reason why you need S-Off. You already have root access and can flash custom roms - what else are you wanting to do?
Hi there,
i read a lot about the waranty issues with HTC on an unlocked One x, so i contacted HTC and after some uninformed Support Writers i reached one of the Support Head Officers, he told me that the basic unlocking process doesn't void waranty, even if you root to use something like titanium. So, but many people around here write that HTC won't repair their devices under waranty (eeven when they restored their device with a RUU) so i think there are some hints in the device that the ruu didn't erase so that HTC sees that you installed a custom rom /recovery and so on. Someone in the S-Off dev thread said that there are some hints on the cache partition. So i think we should collect here all findings that HTC could use to prevent waranty.
Hint 1:
as N1ikon states here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25847782&postcount=1404
on cache partition is a folder with logs
maybe there are fastboot logs on the hboot partition?
So we would need someone with s-off ti habe a look in hboot after flashing a custom rom
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But wouldn't that mean that recovery (even custom) gor write permission to hboot
Maybe that's the reason we can only flash boot through fastboot. To leave a sign for HTC
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Maybe the fact that it says "tampered" in hboot..? Flashing boot through hboot is how it is for EVERY HTC device that doesn't have s-off
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Flashing a ruu will remove tampered warning
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N3m3515 said:
Flashing a ruu will remove tampered warning
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Weird, it doesn't on the One S.. or it didn't for me :/
It does for the att one x as far as I read in theyr forum
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N3m3515 said:
It does for the att one x as far as I read in theyr forum
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Yeah, ruu removes tampered
Have never seen the tampered warning. What causes this?
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pdagenius said:
Have never seen the tampered warning. What causes this?
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flashing another kernel i think
I think we also should compare misc partition before and after flashing custom roms / kernels?
So I want to return my phone to stock I had the rcmix3d but now I have the standard 2.3.5 sense 3.0 which I flashed using the volume down and power. But i think my phone maybe still s off or radio off which may stop me from returning my device to HTC UK because of a hardware fault I just basically want to know how i can make the warrenty not void after rooting it
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Um do you want to keep S-OFF or do you want S-ON? And do you want to root it or do a completely unroot?
Edit: you can root it with superoneclick if you already S-OFF.
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go to boot loader and find out if it is s-off or not. depending on what you find, and what unlock method you used, go to that unlock thread, and relock it again.
I used ahhk and yes it is s off I want to s on
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aliHTCDHD said:
I used ahhk and yes it is s off I want to s on
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use the Hack Kit to revert to stock and S-ON....but you won´t find it in xda anymore. Just follow my signature....
Hi I recently bought my Desire and I want to ask what those 2 terms mean.
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If you have s-off, you can access the system partition of your ROM to write files to it with a root explorer app.
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proadi96 said:
Hi I recently bought my Desire and I want to ask what those 2 terms mean.
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s-on = security on
s-off = security off
basically with s-off u have pretty much full control over uf phone, but the main reason for s-off would be so that u can change hboots to gain more internal memory (data). u can still flash roms if ur s-on and rooted but if things go wrong, its much easier to fix if ur s-off. goto Desire Android Development, theres a few guides there, google "Alpharev" to learn a bit more about hboots and look here, my personal fav
http://androidforums.com/desire-all-things-root/503471-desire-all-things-root-guide.html
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Thanks lads, you's helped me a lot!
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Also is hboot something like kernel? Because some roms u can use stock hboot or custom hboot and im just curious.
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I did everything right and now I'm stuck with Rooted and Unlocked Bootloader but I can't turn S off I want to install customs ROMs. Ugh. I do the Firewater method. It works fine up until last step a ns tell me sorry you will never be able to unlock me
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As far as I'm aware, not everyone's M8 has had success with S-Off, yet. I'm sorry to say, you may be one of the unlucky ones for now. Hopefully something comes along that will work for everyone.
I would just add that you don't need s-off to use custom Rom. Just go and flash away.?
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tominozh said:
I would just add that you don't need s-off to use custom Rom. Just go and flash away.?
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Yep much better than the crap we put up with on the One S.