Lets find out which hints custom roms leave on an One X - HTC One X

Hi there,
i read a lot about the waranty issues with HTC on an unlocked One x, so i contacted HTC and after some uninformed Support Writers i reached one of the Support Head Officers, he told me that the basic unlocking process doesn't void waranty, even if you root to use something like titanium. So, but many people around here write that HTC won't repair their devices under waranty (eeven when they restored their device with a RUU) so i think there are some hints in the device that the ruu didn't erase so that HTC sees that you installed a custom rom /recovery and so on. Someone in the S-Off dev thread said that there are some hints on the cache partition. So i think we should collect here all findings that HTC could use to prevent waranty.
Hint 1:
as N1ikon states here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25847782&postcount=1404
on cache partition is a folder with logs

maybe there are fastboot logs on the hboot partition?

So we would need someone with s-off ti habe a look in hboot after flashing a custom rom
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But wouldn't that mean that recovery (even custom) gor write permission to hboot

Maybe that's the reason we can only flash boot through fastboot. To leave a sign for HTC
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Maybe the fact that it says "tampered" in hboot..? Flashing boot through hboot is how it is for EVERY HTC device that doesn't have s-off
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Flashing a ruu will remove tampered warning
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Flashing a ruu will remove tampered warning
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Weird, it doesn't on the One S.. or it didn't for me :/

It does for the att one x as far as I read in theyr forum
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N3m3515 said:
It does for the att one x as far as I read in theyr forum
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Yeah, ruu removes tampered

Have never seen the tampered warning. What causes this?
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pdagenius said:
Have never seen the tampered warning. What causes this?
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flashing another kernel i think

I think we also should compare misc partition before and after flashing custom roms / kernels?

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S-off

What is the disadvantage having s-on. If we can still root what is the problem. Why exactly do we need s-off
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KrisPerry said:
What is the disadvantage having s-on. If we can still root what is the problem. Why exactly do we need s-off
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It give us unlimited permission to modify the system partition etc. changing Boot screen etc.
There is a detailed thread that's right at top of the general forum that covers this in depth.
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It also allows direct access to all partitions on the phone so we can learn a lot more about it. Will be able to flash boot.img via recovery with the rom (no need for fastboot flash), we can flash modified hboot/bootloader if we wish to as well. Plenty of possibilities.
None of this is possible with s-on, even if you are htcdev unlocked.
M.
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Htc noob! Where to start

Hi there o have just acquired a htc one x and I am just womdering where should be my first port of call (for root etc)? Sorry I will search thoroughly for this but if anyone has any useful places to start it would b most appreciated thanks (@ mods couldnt decide between q&a and general went for general. Apologies if I mis-posted)
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You can either wait for S-Off or unlock the boot loader with HTC Dev then root your phone. There are guides in the development section of the one x forum.
ste1164 said:
You can either wait for S-Off or unlock the boot loader with HTC Dev then root your phone. There are guides in the development section of the one x forum.
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Unlocking your boot loader via HTCDEV will probably void your warranty.
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Unlocking your boot loader via HTCDEV will probably void your warranty.
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Good point I forgot to mention that.
Cheers guys think ill wait for S-Off (bit new to me some of this have xperia x10 which is quite old and lacking in features)
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Wait for s-off , then root , install new kernel and then install new Rom.
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As far as I am aware unlocking using Htc dev doesn't automatically void your warranty. As long as any issue with the device after unlocking is 100% hardware error then I think warranty still stands.
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xaenigma said:
As far as I am aware unlocking using Htc dev doesn't automatically void your warranty. As long as any issue with the device after unlocking is 100% hardware error then I think warranty still stands.
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That is what I read earlier from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25847782&postcount=1404

Rooting HTC one v

Hey,I bought a HTC one v from a couple of days and I want to root it. I saw a post that said that you can't do it on all HTC one v versions or carriers or in which country it was made,and it will get bricked. So could someone please help me find a way to root it safely because I don't wanna end up with a bricked phone
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your safe to root ALL VERSIONS
follow this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1598964
thanks
-Lloir
Thanks for replying but it said it was for primo u what is that?
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donhashem.dh said:
Thanks for replying but it said it was for primo u what is that?
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PrimoU is the codename for the ONE V
PrimoC is the codename for the US version of the One V
Sorry for asking you every 2 minutes a question but lots of people commented that it didn't work for them and there are lots of things I didn't understand like uur and hboot and fastboot and flashing and lots of other things because I'm new to android and I'm scared to do something wrong and brick my device so could you please help me because I'm really want to root my device but feared of bricking it and doing something wrong
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please reply
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donhashem.dh said:
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first and mainly what is the version of the phone? Type (Primo U, C, DS)?
I don't know
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donhashem.dh said:
I don't know
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search for the software version at the OS, settings -> phone setting -> software
Given your data (Lebanon) it will be Primo U, but better to be sure.
Sorry, at settings->about->software information. There is the software number which is needed
Sorry, but I will ask, if you are new to android why root? It is not really needed if you just use the phone like average.
1.58.707.4
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Look I'm not really new to android I know lots of things but Im New to flashing roms and going into fastboot hboot and things like but I know rooting because I had a ideos tablet which had froyo version and I rooted it and I know lots of stuff
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donhashem.dh said:
1.58.707.4
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The software is for the WWE Asia Primo U so you can go according to the link Lloir gave you.
First a registration at htc-dev, and then there will be steb-by-step walktrough to unlock the bootloader. If you have unlocked it (all data will be erased) then it could be rooted, or you can go easy and use the One V all-in one tool which can remove some work from your soulders, but I don't really think that it will be wise at a beginner level to attain the root.
Also if you watched carefully if you unlock the bootloader (which is needed for root) you have voided your warranty.
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donhashem.dh said:
Look I'm not really new to android I know lots of things but Im New to flashing roms and going into fastboot hboot and things like but I know rooting because I had a ideos tablet which had froyo version and I rooted it and I know lots of stuff
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Then you must have used adb, so you are accustomed to command line. In HTC because of some limitations for the users, fastboot is needed to flash things, if you have acchieved the unlocked BL.
For root you only need to do basic things with the all-in-one tool, and you will have cwm to install the supersu. it is not that hard.
I told you I'm not a beginner I was just saying that but the things I don't know are flashing roms but the I know the bootloader unlocking process
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donhashem.dh said:
I told you I'm not a beginner I was just saying that but the things I don't know are flashing roms but the I know the bootloader unlocking process
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if you have unlocked and has cwm you are on the go. You can (not must) flash any custom rom that is available. Only difference in htc is that first you go into bootloader, then from there to recovery, not to recovery first. fastboot is basicly a tiny app, that is capable to flash the primo's memory directly with command line syntax when is fastboot mode (you can call it flash mode basicly).
Ok I got you I conclude that the things I should do are
1 unlock the bootloader
2 flash cmw Rom
3 install superuser
Only???
Or is there anything else?
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Ok I got you I conclude that the things I should do are
1 unlock the bootloader ->correct.
2 flash cmw Rom -> recovery, not rom but correct
3 install superuser-> via the newly flashed recovery
Only???
Or is there anything else?
That is all needed for the root.
Ken-Shi_Kun said:
Ok I got you I conclude that the things I should do are
1 unlock the bootloader ->correct.
2 flash cmw Rom -> recovery, not rom but correct
3 install superuser-> via the newly flashed recovery
Only???
Or is there anything else?
That is all needed for the root.
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Then flash some Rom if he wants to...with full wipe
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I finished the rooting process what are the nice apps that I can download??
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donhashem.dh said:
I finished the rooting process what are the nice apps that I can download??
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I need to be a ***** on this one!
Nice apps?
Dude, few posts ahead you've told Lloir that you need some help on rooting because you don't know what's a bootloader. After that you've told everyone that you know what a bootloader is and you are not new to android, rooting or any other specifical part of this process.
Now after you rooted your device, you ask "what are the nice apps that I can download??" ?
Are you serious?!
Get your act together.
Yeah so what I don't mean the basic apps I mean other apps that allow you to take more controll of your phone
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S off, s on, why HTC???

Soo we all know about HTC's invention of leaving the "security" on or off. This basically means that we can't flash kernels using the recovery. Also, we can't flash another radio from anywhere else and also can't downgrade the hboot.
But why is this done? I have flashed several phones like Samsung galaxy y, etc and everyone can flash kernels in the recovery. So what's the whole motive/purpose of HTC behind all this? If we can flash kernels from the BL then why not straight from the recovery? Its not that we are doing anything illegal..
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I have no good answer, BUT this will be my first and last HTC device because of this BS. LG all the way IMO.
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aaronrw said:
I have no good answer, BUT this will be my first and last HTC device because of this BS. LG all the way IMO.
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Yeah, lg or Samsung, both can flash kernels in recoveries...:banghead:
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To me when you can unlock, root and flash a custom recovery the fun should begin. It's a cop out by HTC no doubt. My old optimus S was a cake walk :banghead:
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soham_sss said:
Soo we all know about HTC's invention of leaving the "security" on or off. This basically means that we can't flash kernels using the recovery. Also, we can't flash another radio from anywhere else and also can't downgrade the hboot.
But why is this done? I have flashed several phones like Samsung galaxy y, etc and everyone can flash kernels in the recovery. So what's the whole motive/purpose of HTC behind all this? If we can flash kernels from the BL then why not straight from the recovery? Its not that we are doing anything illegal..
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The whole purpose is that we don't root our phones and because many problems happen due to rooting
htc wants to keep a track of all the devices which have unlocked their boot loaders so that if they get spoiled they don't have to repair free of cost
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Yea but HTC basically gives you the whole do at your own risk with devunlock anyways. Why not include an S off option at least?
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aaronrw said:
Yea but HTC basically gives you the whole do at your own risk with devunlock anyways. Why not include an S off option at least?
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See there are
1.devs ,
2.people who actually use root functions ,
3.people with low internal memory and want to get rid of that notification....(people who see their friends phone rooted, but have no idea about it but want it)
see now I come under the first two mainly the second......
see the third type of people will see such a lengthy process and will avoid it so their phone will not get spoiled...I hope u understand
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I understand u don't get it. If I want to unlock my phone via HTC I'm taking the risk already. S on is just a dumb extra. Dumb people will brick their phones regardless s on or off. But give the smart people the option of truly gaining control of their devices.
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aaronrw said:
I understand u don't get it. If I want to unlock my phone via HTC I'm taking the risk already. S on is just a dumb extra. Dumb people will brick their phones regardless s on or off. But give the smart people the option of truly gaining control of their devices.
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True, if we already are going to unlock the BL then we should be given an option for s on...
Vibins argument about the third type of people is justifiable though.....:banghead:
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I wonder how many of you know how EASY is to brick your phone by flashing a radio rom .
I for one I am happy about not having S-OFF because:
1. when you flash a rom made from source - the rom makes a kernel that it is called "INSECURE" because it can brick your phone - such roms are having those insecure kernels only if the developer doesn't swap the one made from source with another one that works.
2. when S-OFF will be available for our device, I will not try to flash a different radio rom for sure because you don't know if the flash will break your phone unless someone else does it and tells that it works.
1ceb0x said:
I wonder how many of you know how EASY is to brick your phone by flashing a radio rom .
I for one I am happy about not having S-OFF because:
1. when you flash a rom made from source - the rom makes a kernel that it is called "INSECURE" because it can brick your phone - such roms are having those insecure kernels only if the developer doesn't swap the one made from source with another one that works.
2. when S-OFF will be available for our device, I will not try to flash a different radio rom for sure because you don't know if the flash will break your phone unless someone else does it and tells that it works.
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If I read correct, SimonSimon is working on that s_off
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soham_sss said:
True, if we already are going to unlock the BL then we should be given an option for s on...
Vibins argument about the third type of people is justifiable though.....:banghead:
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Soham, the more the security the more the pride the company has...if u know most of the motorolla phones can't be boot unlocked...so it's no kennel for them unless some dev finds out a exploit
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soham_sss said:
Soo we all know about HTC's invention of leaving the "security" on or off. This basically means that we can't flash kernels using the recovery. Also, we can't flash another radio from anywhere else and also can't downgrade the hboot.
But why is this done? I have flashed several phones like Samsung galaxy y, etc and everyone can flash kernels in the recovery. So what's the whole motive/purpose of HTC behind all this? If we can flash kernels from the BL then why not straight from the recovery? Its not that we are doing anything illegal..
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Does the one v have any hboot that allows flashing kernels in recovery?
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Does the one v have any hboot that allows flashing kernels in recovery?
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No that's why the thread.
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Also, the question is if HTC wanted to be so secure then why are some HTC phones s off and some s on?
In fact even some one vs have s off, like someone had xb ship s off and smartboy_anu even had a pvt ship s off out of the box.
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1ceb0x said:
I wonder how many of you know how EASY is to brick your phone by flashing a radio rom .
I for one I am happy about not having S-OFF because:
1. when you flash a rom made from source - the rom makes a kernel that it is called "INSECURE" because it can brick your phone - such roms are having those insecure kernels only if the developer doesn't swap the one made from source with another one that works.
2. when S-OFF will be available for our device, I will not try to flash a different radio rom for sure because you don't know if the flash will break your phone unless someone else does it and tells that it works.
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Oh wow. Double facepalm there. firstly unsecured don't break your phone. It allows you to adb remount to write to system from adb. 2ndly there's no "from source" radios. So you can't brick if it doesn't exist >.<
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simonsimons34 said:
Oh wow. Double facepalm there. firstly unsecured don't break your phone. It allows you to adb remount to write to system from adb. 2ndly there's no "from source" radios. So you can't brick if it doesn't exist >.<
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Chill mate, I don't know about the insecure one but he didn't mean radios existing in source, what he meant was if someone makes another radio he won't flash it because its not safe
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And that's exactly what I meant.. there won't be any radios unless released by htc. If they released another it was not hacked but build from source in another country, mostly Germany. I'm just helping someone new out so they don't go through XDA getting more rude comments
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No that's why the thread.
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I asked because the one x and one s can downgrade, I thought the method would work here, but not without an old hboot that allows kernel flashing :\
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Is this lock the reason why we can't istall Gingerbread or earlier roms on HOV?
We didn't ship with gingerbread so why would you want it
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[Q] PLEASE Help me fix my briked AT&T HTC One X i beg you

Ok this is what happened: I went on youtub to find out how to root my phone and I downloaded SDK, went on htcdev to unlock bootloader and used CWM i typed "fastboot flash recovery recovery.img.img and downloaded CyanogenMod 10.1 Custom ROM for HTC One X and used boot.img to flash it on the command prompt, after that i hit power down and the charging light turned on and it wasn't even charging. now when i turn it on it says: "This build is for development purposes only Do not distribute outside of HTC without HTC's written permission. Failure to comply may lead to legal action," PLEASE I beg you help me! I don't want to get in trouble. I just want my phone back I don't care about unlocking or rooting. If u have any way please explain it to me easy, I'm new to this. And now i re-locked it, I'm dead
Backup up your phone by nandroid backup or else download your stock rom from xda
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hussaindahodwala said:
Backup up your phone by nandroid backup or else download your stock rom from xda
Hit thanks if I helped you
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This is the my opinion too
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This is the my opinion too
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But what stock ROM and where do I pass it to on the phone?
Get out of this forum if you don't want to proper brick it !!!!
This is all for the HTC one X international and NOT for the evita dual-core at&t HTC one xl !
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