Soo we all know about HTC's invention of leaving the "security" on or off. This basically means that we can't flash kernels using the recovery. Also, we can't flash another radio from anywhere else and also can't downgrade the hboot.
But why is this done? I have flashed several phones like Samsung galaxy y, etc and everyone can flash kernels in the recovery. So what's the whole motive/purpose of HTC behind all this? If we can flash kernels from the BL then why not straight from the recovery? Its not that we are doing anything illegal..
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I have no good answer, BUT this will be my first and last HTC device because of this BS. LG all the way IMO.
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I have no good answer, BUT this will be my first and last HTC device because of this BS. LG all the way IMO.
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Yeah, lg or Samsung, both can flash kernels in recoveries...:banghead:
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To me when you can unlock, root and flash a custom recovery the fun should begin. It's a cop out by HTC no doubt. My old optimus S was a cake walk :banghead:
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soham_sss said:
Soo we all know about HTC's invention of leaving the "security" on or off. This basically means that we can't flash kernels using the recovery. Also, we can't flash another radio from anywhere else and also can't downgrade the hboot.
But why is this done? I have flashed several phones like Samsung galaxy y, etc and everyone can flash kernels in the recovery. So what's the whole motive/purpose of HTC behind all this? If we can flash kernels from the BL then why not straight from the recovery? Its not that we are doing anything illegal..
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The whole purpose is that we don't root our phones and because many problems happen due to rooting
htc wants to keep a track of all the devices which have unlocked their boot loaders so that if they get spoiled they don't have to repair free of cost
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Yea but HTC basically gives you the whole do at your own risk with devunlock anyways. Why not include an S off option at least?
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aaronrw said:
Yea but HTC basically gives you the whole do at your own risk with devunlock anyways. Why not include an S off option at least?
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See there are
1.devs ,
2.people who actually use root functions ,
3.people with low internal memory and want to get rid of that notification....(people who see their friends phone rooted, but have no idea about it but want it)
see now I come under the first two mainly the second......
see the third type of people will see such a lengthy process and will avoid it so their phone will not get spoiled...I hope u understand
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I understand u don't get it. If I want to unlock my phone via HTC I'm taking the risk already. S on is just a dumb extra. Dumb people will brick their phones regardless s on or off. But give the smart people the option of truly gaining control of their devices.
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aaronrw said:
I understand u don't get it. If I want to unlock my phone via HTC I'm taking the risk already. S on is just a dumb extra. Dumb people will brick their phones regardless s on or off. But give the smart people the option of truly gaining control of their devices.
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True, if we already are going to unlock the BL then we should be given an option for s on...
Vibins argument about the third type of people is justifiable though.....:banghead:
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I wonder how many of you know how EASY is to brick your phone by flashing a radio rom .
I for one I am happy about not having S-OFF because:
1. when you flash a rom made from source - the rom makes a kernel that it is called "INSECURE" because it can brick your phone - such roms are having those insecure kernels only if the developer doesn't swap the one made from source with another one that works.
2. when S-OFF will be available for our device, I will not try to flash a different radio rom for sure because you don't know if the flash will break your phone unless someone else does it and tells that it works.
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I wonder how many of you know how EASY is to brick your phone by flashing a radio rom .
I for one I am happy about not having S-OFF because:
1. when you flash a rom made from source - the rom makes a kernel that it is called "INSECURE" because it can brick your phone - such roms are having those insecure kernels only if the developer doesn't swap the one made from source with another one that works.
2. when S-OFF will be available for our device, I will not try to flash a different radio rom for sure because you don't know if the flash will break your phone unless someone else does it and tells that it works.
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If I read correct, SimonSimon is working on that s_off
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soham_sss said:
True, if we already are going to unlock the BL then we should be given an option for s on...
Vibins argument about the third type of people is justifiable though.....:banghead:
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Soham, the more the security the more the pride the company has...if u know most of the motorolla phones can't be boot unlocked...so it's no kennel for them unless some dev finds out a exploit
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soham_sss said:
Soo we all know about HTC's invention of leaving the "security" on or off. This basically means that we can't flash kernels using the recovery. Also, we can't flash another radio from anywhere else and also can't downgrade the hboot.
But why is this done? I have flashed several phones like Samsung galaxy y, etc and everyone can flash kernels in the recovery. So what's the whole motive/purpose of HTC behind all this? If we can flash kernels from the BL then why not straight from the recovery? Its not that we are doing anything illegal..
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Does the one v have any hboot that allows flashing kernels in recovery?
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absolutelygrim said:
Does the one v have any hboot that allows flashing kernels in recovery?
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No that's why the thread.
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Also, the question is if HTC wanted to be so secure then why are some HTC phones s off and some s on?
In fact even some one vs have s off, like someone had xb ship s off and smartboy_anu even had a pvt ship s off out of the box.
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1ceb0x said:
I wonder how many of you know how EASY is to brick your phone by flashing a radio rom .
I for one I am happy about not having S-OFF because:
1. when you flash a rom made from source - the rom makes a kernel that it is called "INSECURE" because it can brick your phone - such roms are having those insecure kernels only if the developer doesn't swap the one made from source with another one that works.
2. when S-OFF will be available for our device, I will not try to flash a different radio rom for sure because you don't know if the flash will break your phone unless someone else does it and tells that it works.
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Oh wow. Double facepalm there. firstly unsecured don't break your phone. It allows you to adb remount to write to system from adb. 2ndly there's no "from source" radios. So you can't brick if it doesn't exist >.<
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simonsimons34 said:
Oh wow. Double facepalm there. firstly unsecured don't break your phone. It allows you to adb remount to write to system from adb. 2ndly there's no "from source" radios. So you can't brick if it doesn't exist >.<
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Chill mate, I don't know about the insecure one but he didn't mean radios existing in source, what he meant was if someone makes another radio he won't flash it because its not safe
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And that's exactly what I meant.. there won't be any radios unless released by htc. If they released another it was not hacked but build from source in another country, mostly Germany. I'm just helping someone new out so they don't go through XDA getting more rude comments
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No that's why the thread.
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I asked because the one x and one s can downgrade, I thought the method would work here, but not without an old hboot that allows kernel flashing :\
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Is this lock the reason why we can't istall Gingerbread or earlier roms on HOV?
We didn't ship with gingerbread so why would you want it
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Hey,I bought a HTC one v from a couple of days and I want to root it. I saw a post that said that you can't do it on all HTC one v versions or carriers or in which country it was made,and it will get bricked. So could someone please help me find a way to root it safely because I don't wanna end up with a bricked phone
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your safe to root ALL VERSIONS
follow this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1598964
thanks
-Lloir
Thanks for replying but it said it was for primo u what is that?
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donhashem.dh said:
Thanks for replying but it said it was for primo u what is that?
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PrimoU is the codename for the ONE V
PrimoC is the codename for the US version of the One V
Sorry for asking you every 2 minutes a question but lots of people commented that it didn't work for them and there are lots of things I didn't understand like uur and hboot and fastboot and flashing and lots of other things because I'm new to android and I'm scared to do something wrong and brick my device so could you please help me because I'm really want to root my device but feared of bricking it and doing something wrong
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please reply
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first and mainly what is the version of the phone? Type (Primo U, C, DS)?
I don't know
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donhashem.dh said:
I don't know
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search for the software version at the OS, settings -> phone setting -> software
Given your data (Lebanon) it will be Primo U, but better to be sure.
Sorry, at settings->about->software information. There is the software number which is needed
Sorry, but I will ask, if you are new to android why root? It is not really needed if you just use the phone like average.
1.58.707.4
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Look I'm not really new to android I know lots of things but Im New to flashing roms and going into fastboot hboot and things like but I know rooting because I had a ideos tablet which had froyo version and I rooted it and I know lots of stuff
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1.58.707.4
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The software is for the WWE Asia Primo U so you can go according to the link Lloir gave you.
First a registration at htc-dev, and then there will be steb-by-step walktrough to unlock the bootloader. If you have unlocked it (all data will be erased) then it could be rooted, or you can go easy and use the One V all-in one tool which can remove some work from your soulders, but I don't really think that it will be wise at a beginner level to attain the root.
Also if you watched carefully if you unlock the bootloader (which is needed for root) you have voided your warranty.
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donhashem.dh said:
Look I'm not really new to android I know lots of things but Im New to flashing roms and going into fastboot hboot and things like but I know rooting because I had a ideos tablet which had froyo version and I rooted it and I know lots of stuff
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Then you must have used adb, so you are accustomed to command line. In HTC because of some limitations for the users, fastboot is needed to flash things, if you have acchieved the unlocked BL.
For root you only need to do basic things with the all-in-one tool, and you will have cwm to install the supersu. it is not that hard.
I told you I'm not a beginner I was just saying that but the things I don't know are flashing roms but the I know the bootloader unlocking process
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donhashem.dh said:
I told you I'm not a beginner I was just saying that but the things I don't know are flashing roms but the I know the bootloader unlocking process
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if you have unlocked and has cwm you are on the go. You can (not must) flash any custom rom that is available. Only difference in htc is that first you go into bootloader, then from there to recovery, not to recovery first. fastboot is basicly a tiny app, that is capable to flash the primo's memory directly with command line syntax when is fastboot mode (you can call it flash mode basicly).
Ok I got you I conclude that the things I should do are
1 unlock the bootloader
2 flash cmw Rom
3 install superuser
Only???
Or is there anything else?
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Ok I got you I conclude that the things I should do are
1 unlock the bootloader ->correct.
2 flash cmw Rom -> recovery, not rom but correct
3 install superuser-> via the newly flashed recovery
Only???
Or is there anything else?
That is all needed for the root.
Ken-Shi_Kun said:
Ok I got you I conclude that the things I should do are
1 unlock the bootloader ->correct.
2 flash cmw Rom -> recovery, not rom but correct
3 install superuser-> via the newly flashed recovery
Only???
Or is there anything else?
That is all needed for the root.
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Then flash some Rom if he wants to...with full wipe
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I finished the rooting process what are the nice apps that I can download??
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donhashem.dh said:
I finished the rooting process what are the nice apps that I can download??
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I need to be a ***** on this one!
Nice apps?
Dude, few posts ahead you've told Lloir that you need some help on rooting because you don't know what's a bootloader. After that you've told everyone that you know what a bootloader is and you are not new to android, rooting or any other specifical part of this process.
Now after you rooted your device, you ask "what are the nice apps that I can download??" ?
Are you serious?!
Get your act together.
Yeah so what I don't mean the basic apps I mean other apps that allow you to take more controll of your phone
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Hey
is there a way to flash the kernel without a PC?
So i can download it with htc one x and install it with a app or termibal comand or something like that.
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D4rk_nVidia said:
Hey
is there a way to flash the kernel without a PC?
So i can download it with htc one x and install it with a app or termibal comand or something like that.
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Yes of course there is, but in every ROM flashing guide they say you have to do it from PC because nobody likes you.
D4rk_nVidia said:
Hey
is there a way to flash the kernel without a PC?
So i can download it with htc one x and install it with a app or termibal comand or something like that.
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No need to be rude BenPoope.
No, unfortunately its not possible yet. It will be possible once bootloader is fully unlocked aka S-Off access.
asestar said:
No need to be rude BenPoope.
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It was just a joke. If I was a little too sensitive, perhaps having my name misspelt could be considered rude.
Unfortunately not.
I did some experimenting with this by manually flashing boot.img with dd
Reading and flashing a boot.img works fine but as soon as you reboot its back to old img.
Deduction
Hboot protection is removing external changes to the boot partition and the only way to get a change to stick after reboot is with fastboot which requires a PC to use
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Thanks all
Okay i wait and flash my phone when im back in germany or in a internet cafe
I hope that S-Off comes soon
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1870652
Everything about my hox is stock i never played with it. Does this safely work?
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bloodhunter112 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1870652
Everything about my hox is stock i never played with it. Does this safely work?
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Since you are planning to root, why not go all the way and install a custom rom that is already rooted. You can try this one, it seems to offer great batterylife http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1705334&page=52
bloodhunter112 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1870652
Everything about my hox is stock i never played with it. Does this safely work?
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The tool you have linked to does not work on the One X. Currently, the only way of achieving root on this device is to use the HTCDev.com bootloader unlock tool, then flash a custom recovery, which will allow you to flash a rooted (custom) ROM. Please look in the development sections, there are plenty of tutorials such as this one.
Never use tools that are not specifically meant for the One X. Frankly I'd stay away from automated scripts and tools for doing critical stuff like rooting, etc.. Rooting One X is pretty straightforward. Here is a video guide:
Step 1 : Unlock the bootloader
Step 2: Install CWM and Root
Putting my unlock code on htcdev doesnt work. Maybe because I'm on 4.04?
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I am Having the same problem. Ready to unlock the BL and HTCdev shuts me down. There a way around this?
KungPow90 said:
I am Having the same problem. Ready to unlock the BL and HTCdev shuts me down. There a way around this?
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I think we have to wait for a new way
bloodhunter112 said:
I think we have to wait for a new way
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It should still work with 4.0.4, do you guys want to post actual error messages or something useful for diagnosis?
I wil when I can. Basicly when I enter the code on htcdev it says that my code isn't right.
And trust me it is the right code.
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bloodhunter112 said:
I wil when I can. Basicly when I enter the code on htcdev it says that my code isn't right.
And trust me it is the right code.
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Are you sure you copy-pasted the code without the prefixes?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1843585
follow that to the letter, it has screenshots of how you should copy the code etc
hopefully it'll help..
Hi guys. I'm going to root my phone soon ( I don't have my computer yet), so once I have done it will I be safe to install any kernel I want even though its a orange branded one? Anything I can't change?
Thanks
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Yes, maybe
avenge the rage said:
Hi guys. I'm going to root my phone soon ( I don't have my computer yet), so once I have done it will I be safe to install any kernel I want even though its a orange branded one? Anything I can't change?
Thanks
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If you unlock your bootloader and install clockworkmod to get root (this is the normal way to do it as I know), then yes you can.
But you always have to check if your rom is compatible with the kernel. So you may have to install a custom rom to be able to install a particular rom.
(please hit thanks if this helps you, because I would like to get access to de dev-section )
Ah right, so once I have that installed (as a backup) I can install any kernel and ruu? I haven't done it in a while so want to make sure I'm doing it right
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avenge the rage said:
Hi guys. I'm going to root my phone soon ( I don't have my computer yet), so once I have done it will I be safe to install any kernel I want even though its a orange branded one? Anything I can't change?
Thanks
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Ah right, so once I have that installed (as a backup) I can install any kernel and ruu? I haven't done it in a while so want to make sure I'm doing it right
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There are different kernel versions for ICS / JB and Sense / AOSP, so make sure you choose the right one for the ROM you are using.
You will be able to flash a RUU to get your stock software back, but only one that installs the same version you had before flashing a custom ROM, or a newer one (read: you cannot downgrade using a RUU).
Hello all, I am rooted stock 4.0.3 and I do not want to risk messing up my phone by flashing a Rom but I want my phone to be as much like jelly bean as possible. Please share any tips or apps that can help me achieve this.
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Nova launcher
Nova Launcher, Holo Locker then download the ICS Dialer, JB Messaging and JB Contacts app from appstore. That's about as close as you'll get without flashing, in all honesty nothing will go wrong, you've already rooted so I assume recovery is installed so you're 99% there.
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recovery
CurtisAndroid5 said:
Nova Launcher, Holo Locker then download the ICS Dialer, JB Messaging and JB Contacts app from appstore. That's about as close as you'll get without flashing, in all honesty nothing will go wrong, you've already rooted so I assume recovery is installed so you're 99% there. Sent from my HTC One V using Tapatalk 2
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actually i havent installed recovery. i have tried both cwm and the team win recovery (cant remember the initials for the whole name) every time i try via my computer, or rom manager it will install but it effs up my phone and it just sits there on the screen saying "this build is for developmental purposes only" and i eventially have to reboot myphone myself. what am i doing wrong? and curtis: what rom are you using? how many times have you flashed one? and how manytimes has something went wrong? im only 15 and i dont have a job yet so if something does go wrong i cant get a new phone and my mom would be P.O.
Dakotajames2015 said:
actually i havent installed recovery. i have tried both cwm and the team win recovery (cant remember the initials for the whole name) every time i try via my computer, or rom manager it will install but it effs up my phone and it just sits there on the screen saying "this build is for developmental purposes only" and i eventially have to reboot myphone myself. what am i doing wrong? and curtis: what rom are you using? how many times have you flashed one? and how manytimes has something went wrong? im only 15 and i dont have a job yet so if something does go wrong i cant get a new phone and my mom would be P.O.
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Just follow the steps on the one click toolkit, all you need to do is unlock bootloader then install recovery and reboot and done. Just make sure you download the correct one (GSM or CDMA). I've flashed this device plenty of times in the 3 month I've had it with no problems at all, I've also messed about with my last two devices with no issues. And I'm only 17, I'm on an apprenticeship wage so I can't really afford a new device but it's really worth doing, if something goes wrong you can always depend on the people at XDA to help you out in recovering it.
I use MyOneV, its based on Sense Lite but I do prefer the Cyanogenmod based ROMs such as CM10 but I can't get enough of the Sense camera.
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Installing apps of jb will not help... The smoothness....!!! The feel of using it will never come at any cost... And dont worry, i hav flashed roms approx. 50 times and nothing went wrong...
Recovery:- try twrp 2.4.4.0 and choose the correct one.... i.e. u r primoU or primoC...
Kernel:- flash dat seperately via fastboot..
Rom:- its up to you...!!!
P.S. please do not be on stock... Try a sense rom if u like it... But no stock... Its not deodexed so u cant even mod it freely...
R: Apps to make jelly bean without flashing rom
Flashing roms is easy once you flash the first one
I suggest you to flash CM 10 but since you want jb feel without it so here you go :
Apex launcher
Holo locker
Camera jb +
Clock jb+
Flash Google now for stock ROM if you want
Jelly bean status bar
Jb messenging app
ICS dialer
Install this much and you are good to go and I highly recommended you to flash Google now its the best feature of jb and flashing this also will not change your ROM or system but since you mentioned that you don't want to flash anything its your choice but its highly recommended
Yes I have flashed google now and am thinking about flashing a Rom. I have noticed google now has a horible amount of lag though.. and is there anyway I can flash a Rom without flashing a kernel as for that would require me to use a computer and right now my computer is down. Or can i flash the boot.IMG using just ny phone?
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Dakotajames2015 said:
Yes I have flashed google now and am thinking about flashing a Rom. I have noticed google now has a horible amount of lag though.. and is there anyway I can flash a Rom without flashing a kernel as for that would require me to use a computer and right now my computer is down. Or can i flash the boot.IMG using just ny phone?
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No... Not possible... Its only when u r s-off...
rohov said:
No... Not possible... Its only when u r s-off...
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I am s-off
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U serious...!!!! Are u sure in bootloader writen s-off....and not s-on....???
Damn lucky u are...:beer:
If yes, then no worry... Flash the rom and u r done... But see in the op thread...if it suggest some other boot.img... Then u need a pc...
rohov said:
U serious...!!!! Are u sure in bootloader writen s-off....and not s-on.
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Yeah it says shipped s-on but at the top it says unlocked so maybe I am s on and my bootloader is unlocked. Idk all I know is that I followed the steps on the HTC web site
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Dakotajames2015 said:
Yeah it says shipped s-on but at the top it says unlocked so maybe I am s on and my bootloader is unlocked. Idk all I know is that I followed the steps on the HTC web site
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Sorry to burst the s-off thing but unlocked just means your able to put recoverys and root it and rom.
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EpicLordPhone said:
Sorry to burst the s-off thing but unlocked just means your able to put recoverys and root it and rom.
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Then how do you s off and what can it do?
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As of now I don't think there is s-off for this yet. And flash the boot IMG through recovery
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Post the photo of the boot loader to eradicate the confusion
aashukmehta said:
Post the photo of the boot loader to eradicate the confusion
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I don't know how but here's what it says
****UNLOCKED****
shipped s-on
And then it has a bunch of stuff like versions of hboot and stuff like that
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Lol yes it is deffinetly s-on.
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Has anyone here flashed cyanogen mod 10 cuz I'm thinking of flashing it
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