S-off s-on - Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi I recently bought my Desire and I want to ask what those 2 terms mean.
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If you have s-off, you can access the system partition of your ROM to write files to it with a root explorer app.
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proadi96 said:
Hi I recently bought my Desire and I want to ask what those 2 terms mean.
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s-on = security on
s-off = security off
basically with s-off u have pretty much full control over uf phone, but the main reason for s-off would be so that u can change hboots to gain more internal memory (data). u can still flash roms if ur s-on and rooted but if things go wrong, its much easier to fix if ur s-off. goto Desire Android Development, theres a few guides there, google "Alpharev" to learn a bit more about hboots and look here, my personal fav
http://androidforums.com/desire-all-things-root/503471-desire-all-things-root-guide.html
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Thanks lads, you's helped me a lot!
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Also is hboot something like kernel? Because some roms u can use stock hboot or custom hboot and im just curious.
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S-off

What is the disadvantage having s-on. If we can still root what is the problem. Why exactly do we need s-off
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KrisPerry said:
What is the disadvantage having s-on. If we can still root what is the problem. Why exactly do we need s-off
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It give us unlimited permission to modify the system partition etc. changing Boot screen etc.
There is a detailed thread that's right at top of the general forum that covers this in depth.
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It also allows direct access to all partitions on the phone so we can learn a lot more about it. Will be able to flash boot.img via recovery with the rom (no need for fastboot flash), we can flash modified hboot/bootloader if we wish to as well. Plenty of possibilities.
None of this is possible with s-on, even if you are htcdev unlocked.
M.
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Thanks
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I have a problem

Soooo. I've had my HTC desire (gsm) for about a year. I rooted it. Put new roms on it. Flashed it hundreds of times. But I got bored. So I thought is go back to stock HTC 2.3 sense.
Wrong.....
Now no matter what I try I can re-root it.
I've tried alpharevx.
I've tried apps.
I've tried fastboot.
I've tried hboot.
And a few other I can't even remember.
Sooooo. My question is this. How do I root a phone that doesn't want to be rooted and only wants to run stock 2.3
Any help greatly received.
Regards
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to s-off 2.3 use revolutionay then flash superuser to get root
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I've tried revolutionary as well but I get the message. "did not get root this time. This sometimes happens. Please try again."
I've tried 12 time in a row.
Still doesn't work.
Any idea or links or even PM
Greatly received
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strange that none of them works. what does ur bootloader say -
pvt ?
hboot xxx
etc etc
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It says.
bravo PVT1 ship S-on
HBOOT- 1.02.0001
Microp- 031d
Touchpanal - synt0101
Radio - 5.17.05.23
Jul 22 2011, 16:19:16
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evilbarbot said:
It says.
bravo PVT1 ship S-on
HBOOT- 1.02.0001
Microp- 031d
Touchpanal - synt0101
Radio - 5.17.05.23
Jul 22 2011, 16:19:16
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Hmm revolutionary should work, as far as i know its the only 1 that can s-off hboot 1.02.0001
How r u using revolutionary? is ur phone booted up and usb bugging enabled? dont mean to offend u with those silly questions lol its just strange it dont work. Now saying that, maybe revolutionary does'nt work on all devices, i dont know. im only guessing. also i know that theres a few other programs that r supposed to do the job like SuperOneClick and there mite be one or 2 others but i really cant tell u if they work or not or if they cause problems, i really dont know.
Try unrEVOked_3.20…just 3.20!
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I tried revolutionary from a clean install with usb debugging enabled. I've tried super one click
Universal androot.
z4root.
And if I remember one more
Even the Htcdev boot unlocker.
Still nothing works.
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Unrevoked will root but not S-off. to S-off use AlphaRev.
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I have also done this. I downloaded alpharev.iso and made my disk.
Booted up the disk but the software can't read any info from my phone.
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Root first use unrevoked_3.20
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wan.ting said:
Unrevoked will root but not S-off. to S-off use AlphaRev.
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unrevoked does up to android 2.2 i think
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Il look into downgrading to 2.2 and try all the methods again.
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Have you got all the htc sync drivers installed?
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evilbarbot said:
Soooo. I've had my HTC desire (gsm) for about a year. I rooted it. Put new roms on it. Flashed it hundreds of times. But I got bored. So I thought is go back to stock HTC 2.3 sense.
Wrong.....
Now no matter what I try I can re-root it.
I've tried alpharevx.
I've tried apps.
I've tried fastboot.
I've tried hboot.
And a few other I can't even remember.
Sooooo. My question is this. How do I root a phone that doesn't want to be rooted and only wants to run stock 2.3
Any help greatly received.
Regards
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SuperOneClick option unroot.
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panpjp said:
SuperOneClick option unroot.
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Man, keep your advise to yourself... seriously.
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I did it in the same order as you are trying now. First got stock 2.3 and then wanted root.
I remember it was easy. I just googled for a how to and I don't even think it was on xda, just a random page. I had the same hboot, gsm.
With your hboot ver revolutionary is the only option. Period.
Revolutionary only gives SOFF and allows you to install recovery.
You have to flash the su zip seperately to get root - superuser
One simple thing to try would be to change the computer, install hboot drivers and try revolutionary again.
Hope this helps.
stankyou said:
Man, keep your advise to yourself... seriously.
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Huh?........., can you explain what you mean? English is not my first language, but I am not dumb. In fact I got scholarship . I tried unrooting via SuperOneClick before and it works, so I'm just helping.
ok.
so ive now tried unrevoked 3.2
still not rooting
hmmm
so heres my plan
1) ruu stock 2.2
2)try as many different root gadgets i can get my hands on
3) if no luck try on mac instead of pc
4)if no luck. im buying an iphone. . . . . .grrrr

Returning to stock

So I want to return my phone to stock I had the rcmix3d but now I have the standard 2.3.5 sense 3.0 which I flashed using the volume down and power. But i think my phone maybe still s off or radio off which may stop me from returning my device to HTC UK because of a hardware fault I just basically want to know how i can make the warrenty not void after rooting it
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Um do you want to keep S-OFF or do you want S-ON? And do you want to root it or do a completely unroot?
Edit: you can root it with superoneclick if you already S-OFF.
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go to boot loader and find out if it is s-off or not. depending on what you find, and what unlock method you used, go to that unlock thread, and relock it again.
I used ahhk and yes it is s off I want to s on
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aliHTCDHD said:
I used ahhk and yes it is s off I want to s on
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use the Hack Kit to revert to stock and S-ON....but you won´t find it in xda anymore. Just follow my signature....

Perfect guide

I have looked through the DHD QandAs and am still not sure of how to root my phone I really don't want to brick it so I want full guidelines on unlooking hboot getting s-off and for the rooting I think I can take it from there but I do know that rooting is save when you have unlooked hboot and s-off pls I need help any body
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I have a g2 rooted but in the process of unlocking the SIM I got s-off and hboot unlocked but not sure on how to do it on the DHD
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I had to read your post twice to understand it. Here you go.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=30007255
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S-ON/S-OFF

Hi ermm I s-offed my desire but now realise I don't want nor need it and want to go back to S-ON and stock HBOOT. How do I do that?
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boo97 said:
Hi ermm I s-offed my desire but now realise I don't want nor need it and want to go back to S-ON and stock HBOOT. How do I do that?
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if you haven't actually changed hboot you are still on stock hboot, leave it. (you're just s-off with stock hboot partition layout, i'm wondering whether you understand what the hboots are? try here, recommend reading all the guides there)
s-off allows you to change hboot to use space more efficiently, and modify system partition while it's running. it's also much more useful to be s-off just in case things go wrong i.e. easier to fix.
(if you really want to go back s-on, you'll have to flash RUU, look at bortak's guide stickied to the top of Q&A, but i don't recommend it, not much point...)
No its just that I read somewhere that S-OFF can be dangerous and could brick your phone!!
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Thank you that was very helpful......I think I will leave my phone at S-Off.
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boo97 said:
No its just that I read somewhere that S-OFF can be dangerous and could brick your phone!!
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Don't worry too much about it, you probably read someone who didn't follow instructions.
The actual s-off procedure can be dangerous, but most likely to happen during the process itself
You are already successfully s-off so relax!

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