I did everything right and now I'm stuck with Rooted and Unlocked Bootloader but I can't turn S off I want to install customs ROMs. Ugh. I do the Firewater method. It works fine up until last step a ns tell me sorry you will never be able to unlock me
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As far as I'm aware, not everyone's M8 has had success with S-Off, yet. I'm sorry to say, you may be one of the unlucky ones for now. Hopefully something comes along that will work for everyone.
I would just add that you don't need s-off to use custom Rom. Just go and flash away.?
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tominozh said:
I would just add that you don't need s-off to use custom Rom. Just go and flash away.?
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Yep much better than the crap we put up with on the One S.
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What is the disadvantage having s-on. If we can still root what is the problem. Why exactly do we need s-off
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KrisPerry said:
What is the disadvantage having s-on. If we can still root what is the problem. Why exactly do we need s-off
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It give us unlimited permission to modify the system partition etc. changing Boot screen etc.
There is a detailed thread that's right at top of the general forum that covers this in depth.
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It also allows direct access to all partitions on the phone so we can learn a lot more about it. Will be able to flash boot.img via recovery with the rom (no need for fastboot flash), we can flash modified hboot/bootloader if we wish to as well. Plenty of possibilities.
None of this is possible with s-on, even if you are htcdev unlocked.
M.
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Thanks
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Soo we all know about HTC's invention of leaving the "security" on or off. This basically means that we can't flash kernels using the recovery. Also, we can't flash another radio from anywhere else and also can't downgrade the hboot.
But why is this done? I have flashed several phones like Samsung galaxy y, etc and everyone can flash kernels in the recovery. So what's the whole motive/purpose of HTC behind all this? If we can flash kernels from the BL then why not straight from the recovery? Its not that we are doing anything illegal..
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I have no good answer, BUT this will be my first and last HTC device because of this BS. LG all the way IMO.
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aaronrw said:
I have no good answer, BUT this will be my first and last HTC device because of this BS. LG all the way IMO.
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Yeah, lg or Samsung, both can flash kernels in recoveries...:banghead:
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To me when you can unlock, root and flash a custom recovery the fun should begin. It's a cop out by HTC no doubt. My old optimus S was a cake walk :banghead:
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Soo we all know about HTC's invention of leaving the "security" on or off. This basically means that we can't flash kernels using the recovery. Also, we can't flash another radio from anywhere else and also can't downgrade the hboot.
But why is this done? I have flashed several phones like Samsung galaxy y, etc and everyone can flash kernels in the recovery. So what's the whole motive/purpose of HTC behind all this? If we can flash kernels from the BL then why not straight from the recovery? Its not that we are doing anything illegal..
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The whole purpose is that we don't root our phones and because many problems happen due to rooting
htc wants to keep a track of all the devices which have unlocked their boot loaders so that if they get spoiled they don't have to repair free of cost
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Yea but HTC basically gives you the whole do at your own risk with devunlock anyways. Why not include an S off option at least?
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aaronrw said:
Yea but HTC basically gives you the whole do at your own risk with devunlock anyways. Why not include an S off option at least?
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See there are
1.devs ,
2.people who actually use root functions ,
3.people with low internal memory and want to get rid of that notification....(people who see their friends phone rooted, but have no idea about it but want it)
see now I come under the first two mainly the second......
see the third type of people will see such a lengthy process and will avoid it so their phone will not get spoiled...I hope u understand
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I understand u don't get it. If I want to unlock my phone via HTC I'm taking the risk already. S on is just a dumb extra. Dumb people will brick their phones regardless s on or off. But give the smart people the option of truly gaining control of their devices.
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I understand u don't get it. If I want to unlock my phone via HTC I'm taking the risk already. S on is just a dumb extra. Dumb people will brick their phones regardless s on or off. But give the smart people the option of truly gaining control of their devices.
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True, if we already are going to unlock the BL then we should be given an option for s on...
Vibins argument about the third type of people is justifiable though.....:banghead:
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I wonder how many of you know how EASY is to brick your phone by flashing a radio rom .
I for one I am happy about not having S-OFF because:
1. when you flash a rom made from source - the rom makes a kernel that it is called "INSECURE" because it can brick your phone - such roms are having those insecure kernels only if the developer doesn't swap the one made from source with another one that works.
2. when S-OFF will be available for our device, I will not try to flash a different radio rom for sure because you don't know if the flash will break your phone unless someone else does it and tells that it works.
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I wonder how many of you know how EASY is to brick your phone by flashing a radio rom .
I for one I am happy about not having S-OFF because:
1. when you flash a rom made from source - the rom makes a kernel that it is called "INSECURE" because it can brick your phone - such roms are having those insecure kernels only if the developer doesn't swap the one made from source with another one that works.
2. when S-OFF will be available for our device, I will not try to flash a different radio rom for sure because you don't know if the flash will break your phone unless someone else does it and tells that it works.
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If I read correct, SimonSimon is working on that s_off
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soham_sss said:
True, if we already are going to unlock the BL then we should be given an option for s on...
Vibins argument about the third type of people is justifiable though.....:banghead:
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Soham, the more the security the more the pride the company has...if u know most of the motorolla phones can't be boot unlocked...so it's no kennel for them unless some dev finds out a exploit
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soham_sss said:
Soo we all know about HTC's invention of leaving the "security" on or off. This basically means that we can't flash kernels using the recovery. Also, we can't flash another radio from anywhere else and also can't downgrade the hboot.
But why is this done? I have flashed several phones like Samsung galaxy y, etc and everyone can flash kernels in the recovery. So what's the whole motive/purpose of HTC behind all this? If we can flash kernels from the BL then why not straight from the recovery? Its not that we are doing anything illegal..
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Does the one v have any hboot that allows flashing kernels in recovery?
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Does the one v have any hboot that allows flashing kernels in recovery?
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No that's why the thread.
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Also, the question is if HTC wanted to be so secure then why are some HTC phones s off and some s on?
In fact even some one vs have s off, like someone had xb ship s off and smartboy_anu even had a pvt ship s off out of the box.
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I wonder how many of you know how EASY is to brick your phone by flashing a radio rom .
I for one I am happy about not having S-OFF because:
1. when you flash a rom made from source - the rom makes a kernel that it is called "INSECURE" because it can brick your phone - such roms are having those insecure kernels only if the developer doesn't swap the one made from source with another one that works.
2. when S-OFF will be available for our device, I will not try to flash a different radio rom for sure because you don't know if the flash will break your phone unless someone else does it and tells that it works.
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Oh wow. Double facepalm there. firstly unsecured don't break your phone. It allows you to adb remount to write to system from adb. 2ndly there's no "from source" radios. So you can't brick if it doesn't exist >.<
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Oh wow. Double facepalm there. firstly unsecured don't break your phone. It allows you to adb remount to write to system from adb. 2ndly there's no "from source" radios. So you can't brick if it doesn't exist >.<
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Chill mate, I don't know about the insecure one but he didn't mean radios existing in source, what he meant was if someone makes another radio he won't flash it because its not safe
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And that's exactly what I meant.. there won't be any radios unless released by htc. If they released another it was not hacked but build from source in another country, mostly Germany. I'm just helping someone new out so they don't go through XDA getting more rude comments
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No that's why the thread.
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I asked because the one x and one s can downgrade, I thought the method would work here, but not without an old hboot that allows kernel flashing :\
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Is this lock the reason why we can't istall Gingerbread or earlier roms on HOV?
We didn't ship with gingerbread so why would you want it
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Hey guys I plan on staying on stock Rom for a while but I need busy box installed. There are apps that do it, but whenever I try to install it my device just reboots. I'm stock rooted with unlocked boot loader as of right now and unable ble to achieve s-off in case that helps. New to HTC so any help would be appreciated.
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You need to make your system writable
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SmiLey497 said:
You need to make your system writable
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Would you be able to guide me on how to do that? Thought I had already done that but guess not :/
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Im pretty sure you need to turn s-on to s-off. There are many threads on here how to do that. I think you need to root it too
Not trying to hijack this thread but I've always wonder what is busybox for?
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Im pretty sure you need to turn s-on to s-off. There are many threads on here how to do that. I think you need to root it too
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Guess I'm out of luck. Tried to use the s off method but it said it wouldn't work on my device
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Doesn't work my device too.
If you have unlocked bootloader you can try to flash or use a module or hacked/custom kernel which can turn system from read only to write...flar made this module/kernel...so read the thread and maybe give it a try...
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Howdy, new HTC One M8 owner here. Coming from Galaxy S4.
There is a lot information here pretty overwhelming. I'm trying to get my bearings. I have unlocked my BL and have not yet installed a custom recovery or root yet. I also have not taken any updates.
Is there a general consensus on which recovery is most compatible with our device?
What is S-Off? I mean I have the jist secure off, but what does this allow, and how do I achieve S-Off?
How do I verify I'm SIM unlocked and if not procedure to achieve this?
Finally with all of the development is there a thread that runs through the ROMs so I can choose one that best fits my need?
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S-OFF if you change CID and model information and be able to flash any firmware but to flahs normals ROM zip files you absolutely dont need SOFF
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2744194
[GUIDE] Everything Explained.
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I got s off on my device but now mobile tethering cycles data connection. What could the correlation be? And thanks gentleman.
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Did u flash any custom rom aside from rooting stock and soff?
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Did u flash any custom rom aside from rooting stock and soff?
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Not yet, trying to prepare everything and following all written instructions to the tee.
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Help have t go to work tonight would like to tether. If I do factory reset will it kill soff or just root?
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It will kill root
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I factory reset still my data turns off and on when hot spot is activated. I have done nothing but installed TWRP and S Off. This is ridiculous.
Any other ideas?
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I'm currently running insert coin on my at&t HTC one. I've tried several times with fire water to gain soff. If anybody has a suggestion that would be excellent
You have a custom rom but your phone is S-on? How did that happen?
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You have a custom rom but your phone is S-on? How did that happen?
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You don't have to be s-off to flash a custom Rom. You have to be s-off to flash a ruu or a radio though.
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You don't have to be s-off to flash a custom Rom. You have to be s-off to flash a ruu or a radio though.
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Thanks, I did not know that. Guess I'm still not clear which parts of the nand are protected by S-on....
Edit: Never mind - wrong again
are there any other methods to get S-Off? I've been trying firewater for hours now and it fails every time. even tried loading roms up to the phone whilst it's copying. Nothing works. It's a standard EUR One.
http://theroot.ninja/
This will give you S-OFF but it's a paid app. Read the whole page before proceeding
Is that what you used yourself? Anyone used it?
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Is that what you used yourself? Anyone used it?
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Its confirmed to work. It runs tests to make sure your device is compatible before making you buy a licence. Just make sure you have root prior.
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