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I see a lot of people constantly talking about battery life on here and how they are disappointed by what they are seeing from ROMs, kernels, or the OTA release.
I'm interested to see exactly what sort of expectations people have on the lifetime of their phone.
I've been fairly cognizant of my phone's power consumption and have done a lot to ensure I understand how I use it and what effect that has on its life between charges.
I understand that a first generation phone with the largest screen, the fastest processor available, the most processor intensive camera, with animated wallpapers, synchronization to various web services, flash, and borderline experimental next-generation wireless connectivity that can tether to multiple devices. To have all that on a unit marginally larger than my old Palm Pre and roughly the same battery size (1150mAh stock) is going to come with some compromises.
I tend to overclock, ROM flash, and beat the snot out of my phone on a regular basis. Therefore, I have a super gigantic Seidio battery that I absolutely adore. I found that even before that, I was able to get my battery life under control if I controlled my phone properly, so I'm not sure what the problem is.
Did some people just get bad phones? Are some people just being unrealistic with their expectations? What goals do you think people should be setting for the lifetime of their phone between charges?
Its an honest question.
I used to get almost a week out of an old motorola flip style phone (v500 something).
Everything since then has been downhill.
I'm not under the false impression that these new phones are going to last as long as the older "dumb" phones, BUT.....Id like to be able to get through the day without charging my phone. I keep my screen about 40% brightness, I'm usually in an area with good reception, I only sync my Gmail, I've calibrated my battery, etc. The only real USE my phone gets is texting. I unplug my phone at 5am and its more than half gone by noon. Not real great IMO.
I think this will provide valuable insight as to expectations for this phone. Personally I have used smartphones since I can remember and I was bread to expect a nightly charge.
It may be unacceptable to some that we have to "mod" our phones to get reasonable battery life, but I really dont have too many complaints. Out of the box, the EVO is running a 1gz processor and powering a 4.3" display. Not to mention if you're running wifi and various apps. I think some people are just expecting too much from these phones. Look at laptops. When my dell was brand new, I could get 2-3 hours of steady use before it conked out. The battery life our phones are getting, modded or stock, isnt really that bad. If you're unwilling to do some research and easy mods or buy a spare $20 OEM battery off eBay please dont complain about it.
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I think this will provide valuable insight as to expectations for this phone. Personally I have used smartphones since I can remember and I was bread to expect a nightly charge.
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A nightly charge is acceptable. It's when you have to charge 2-3 times a day from moderate usage that is a little out of hand... Understandable that with heavier usage, more frequent charges would be needed.
Wat kernel is best for saving battery life.. i use CM6 NB
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Wat kernel is best for saving battery life.. i use CM6 NB
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Off Topic.
I want to power a small village from my phone please
I want my phone to last a day. And call a typical day something like:
- l/2-1 hour talk
- 12-24 text messages
- 45 minutes - 2 hours web browsing
- 2 hours music
My iPhone 3GS would do this without a problem, my wife's iPhone 4 might do 2 days like this. The EVO just barely does this.
But.. I prefer the EVO for enough reasons I just dropped $10 for 2 extra batteries and a phone-less charger on ebay, and keep chargers in the car and at my desk, and get it plugged in for like 30 minutes somewhere during the day. I rarely use the backup batteries, but it is nice to have them.
Totally worth it for a bigger screen, 4G, more open OS.
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I want my phone to last a day. And call a typical day something like:
- l/2-1 hour talk
- 12-24 text messages
- 45 minutes - 2 hours web browsing
- 2 hours music
My iPhone 3GS would do this without a problem, my wife's iPhone 4 might do 2 days like this. The EVO just barely does this.
But.. I prefer the EVO for enough reasons I just dropped $10 for 2 extra batteries and a phone-less charger on ebay, and keep chargers in the car and at my desk, and get it plugged in for like 30 minutes somewhere during the day. I rarely use the backup batteries, but it is nice to have them.
Totally worth it for a bigger screen, 4G, more open OS.
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This definitely sounds doable. If you aren't getting that out of your phone, I'd reccomend calling support. I'm going to assume your dedication has already lead you down your own troubleshooting path.
My standard was set with my BlackBerry: less than 5% discharge rate per hour under normal use, and I am happy.
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Am I the only one who thinks that Microsoft is doing really well with the platform? They launched last year have had one issue (with the Nodo update) and are already ahead of schedule on there Mango update.
To me honestly my Dell Venue Pro looks better then my brothers android phone it may not have as many features but it has all I look for in a phone. I just don't see why everyone is complaining so much :s?
Oh and if I have missed something about the platform please tell me
No, you are not the only one.
I had WP7, then some friends tried to persuade me to pass to Android, i used it for a month until I trow it out of my car window (It was a Nexus One, so exactly the same hardware as LG E900 I was using and I am currently using).
Far too bored from system lockup, too much energy consumption from the OS an applications, Android is just a bunch of buggy software.
Now back to WP7 and breathing again, no need to travel with battery charger, fast and reliable os...
What kind of battery life do you get on wp7? I get around 10 hours while my android phone usually gets 26-30.
For all the strong points on wp7 battery performance is not one
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What kind of battery life do you get on wp7? I get around 10 hours while my android phone usually gets 26-30.
For all the strong points on wp7 battery performance is not one
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I have to agree with this. My Focus is horrid for BL. I have all syncing set to manual and even deleted all apps that required syncing data except the weather app. My Focus, not being used, will drain the battery in less than 2 days...remember, I said not being used...the screen is always off, the sim is out and the wifi sleeping.
My Androids are much better. Even my HD2 with Android lasts several days with mild usage. My iPhone is unmatched, though. It just lasts and lasts. I can go a week with mild usage and still have 75% battery.
MS needs to focus on the BL.
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What kind of battery life do you get on wp7? I get around 10 hours while my android phone usually gets 26-30.
For all the strong points on wp7 battery performance is not one
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Must be low utilization....
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I have to agree with this. My Focus is horrid for BL. I have all syncing set to manual and even deleted all apps that required syncing data except the weather app. My Focus, not being used, will drain the battery in less than 2 days...remember, I said not being used...the screen is always off, the sim is out and the wifi sleeping.
My Androids are much better. Even my HD2 with Android lasts several days with mild usage. My iPhone is unmatched, though. It just lasts and lasts. I can go a week with mild usage and still have 75% battery.
MS needs to focus on the BL.
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Totally disagree, I have the 1.3 focus and have no problem getting through a 12 hour work day with moderate to heavy use.
I think comparing Android battery performance to WP isn't a direct comparison since Android runs on a plethora of different hardware with different battery sizes, cpus, gpus, etc, etc... WP has what, less than 10 models currently on the market?
Although that's soon to change.
I do know this for a fact: My colleague had a Samsung Infuse and her battery wouldn't last 8 hours. Returned it for an iphone cause the Mango wasn't even close to RTM at the time.
That's probably because her battery is 1400 mah and mine is 1500 mah. Also her CPU is 1.5 ghz and mine is 1.0 ghz.. After that, then the OS would come in to play.
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Am I the only one who thinks that Microsoft is doing really well with the platform? They launched last year have had one issue (with the Nodo update) and are already ahead of schedule on there Mango update.
To me honestly my Dell Venue Pro looks better then my brothers android phone it may not have as many features but it has all I look for in a phone. I just don't see why everyone is complaining so much :s?
Oh and if I have missed something about the platform please tell me
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No, and millions of others including myself think it's doing well too.
But remember, there's a lot of money at stake and people will do/say anything to try to stop their camp from potentially losing any market share.
Be patient. MS has some very big things coming. It's a long term plan, and time will reveal it. And only then will the doubters finally see what's going on.
But the haters, there's nothing that can be said for them except please leave this forum and keep your nonsense to yourselves.
If you are basing your assumption that you are the "only one" off of the forum posts on XDA (or on any forum really), don't.
Its a well known fact that complaints are much louder than praise. But the number of people complaining is minute compared to the many others who are too busy using and enjoying their phones to bother with any forums.
Especially here on XDA, where one of the reasons we're all here is because we see something that could be improved or better, and we gather here as enthusiasts and developers to make those improvements. Its only natural that these improvements are based off of complaints that people make here.
Its not a perfect platform, but then again, no platform is. And for being only 1 year into the platform, its doing quite well both in terms of the app Marketplace, and the general development of the platform.
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I have to agree with this. My Focus is horrid for BL. I have all syncing set to manual and even deleted all apps that required syncing data except the weather app. My Focus, not being used, will drain the battery in less than 2 days...remember, I said not being used...the screen is always off, the sim is out and the wifi sleeping.
My Androids are much better. Even my HD2 with Android lasts several days with mild usage. My iPhone is unmatched, though. It just lasts and lasts. I can go a week with mild usage and still have 75% battery.
MS needs to focus on the BL.
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How do you get that much battery life out of you iPhone? Everyone I know with an iPhone, especially the iPhone 4, can't get through a whole day without looking for a charger at the end of the day. With a battery pack case, they can make it through two days. I'm just wondering.
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I do know this for a fact: My colleague had a Samsung Infuse and her battery wouldn't last 8 hours. Returned it for an iphone cause the Mango wasn't even close to RTM at the time.
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Totally disagree. I had an Infuse and the battery life was the best of my Android. It would last a long time. Much longer than 8 hours.
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How do you get that much battery life out of you iPhone? Everyone I know with an iPhone, especially the iPhone 4, can't get through a whole day without looking for a charger at the end of the day. With a battery pack case, they can make it through two days. I'm just wondering.
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I'm a mild user. I rarely make phone calls and do minimal things with it. It's my main phone and I keep it with me all the time, but it basically just sits in my belt case and once in a while I'll pull it out and check emails, market apps and do some other things with it.
But if I do make or receive calls, it will drain much more than it does. But there is no exaggeration about the BL I see with it. I can go several days forgetting about it and when I do think about it I figure it might need charging. But I pull it out and look and it's barely moved away from a full charge.
And this is the same type usage I do with my others phones, except my Focus. My Focus just sits at home in its pouch never used. But the battery will drain in less than 2 days.
I wouldn't really consider an idle phone a good benchmark for battery life, though it is the easiest. It is non-standard usage and probably not something they are optimizing around.
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I wouldn't really consider an idle phone a good benchmark for battery life, though it is the easiest. It is non-standard usage and probably not something they are optimizing around.
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The only idle phone I have is my Focus. And all of my Androids and my iPhone are used, but used minimally. For music on my iPhone, I get around 50 hours. The standby time on the iPhone is literal and true. The standby time on the Androids isn't. The standby time on my WP7 phone is the most horrendous I've seen since my Blackberry Pearl Flip.
My surround battery life is great. I don't use it much for talking but i do use it to check my fantasy football scores, constant emails withour exchange server (push mail), comcast home email, yahoo (for fantasy football) and text messaging. I also use the internet frequently off 3G throughout the day and usually have an app update or 2 and in the morning i use the fm radio for my 40 min walk with the dog and mp3's for another 30 min walk after work.. After all this i'm at 30% - 40% battery life. Also my charge time is up to 90% with only about a 45 min charge. Surrounds have 1500m batteries.
Android obvious has superior hardware...they needed it to run their laggy OS.
Samsung infuse with custom rom eaquals 10 -12 hours of battery life moderate usage and no lag. Its overclocked to 1.6 ghz also. I left wp7 2 months ago and feel free all of a sudden. I really was pulling for wp7 for a while but unfortunately its not gonna make it.
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Well, I was comparing two similar hardware phones (LG E900 with Nexus One); the have same CPU, RAM, DISPLAY and more or less, battery (50ma minus for the Nexus One).
I make exactly the same use of both phones, since my habits didn't changed in 3 months.
So yes, I will never come back to Android, for battery life, for reliability, for buggy OS, for smoothliness......
I find the two day battery for the completely idle (all radios off) Focus to be a bit surprising. I had mine in a similar situation for a few days and all indications pointed to it lasting around a week. It's definitely short of my old Touch Pro 2's month of full idle, but it's an unrealistic test either way. And we'll see what the new firmware with the official Mango update brings to the table.
I'm a reasonably light phone user in general, and I have no real qualms with the battery life I get on the Focus... at least after setting the screen brightness to low. It's pretty obvious that the screen is going to be a huge power draw when having it on high with a light-coloured display for a few minutes makes the entire device hot. Another strong point is the consistency of the battery meter - my Blackberry could end a day with anywhere from 90% to 40% battery remaining on very similar cross-day usage profiles, while my Focus idles at a very predictable 1.5-2%/hr with 3G, one EAS push account, and The Weather Network's live tile.
For a full wake-to-sleep 18-20h day to rarely consume more than 50% battery is totally reasonable, especially when the device doesn't freeze, crash, lag, or generally spaz out without regular reboots unlike every other mobile I've owned.
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I find the two day battery for the completely idle (all radios off) Focus to be a bit surprising. I had mine in a similar situation for a few days and all indications pointed to it lasting around a week. It's definitely short of my old Touch Pro 2's month of full idle, but it's an unrealistic test either way. And we'll see what the new firmware with the official Mango update brings to the table.
I'm a reasonably light phone user in general, and I have no real qualms with the battery life I get on the Focus... at least after setting the screen brightness to low. It's pretty obvious that the screen is going to be a huge power draw when having it on high with a light-coloured display for a few minutes makes the entire device hot. Another strong point is the consistency of the battery meter - my Blackberry could end a day with anywhere from 90% to 40% battery remaining on very similar cross-day usage profiles, while my Focus idles at a very predictable 1.5-2%/hr with 3G, one EAS push account, and The Weather Network's live tile.
For a full wake-to-sleep 18-20h day to rarely consume more than 50% battery is totally reasonable, especially when the device doesn't freeze, crash, lag, or generally spaz out without regular reboots unlike every other mobile I've owned.
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What hardware revision do you have, v1.3 or v1.4?
I'm actually surprised at your battery life, MartyLK. My Samsung Omnia 7 (which I assume is the same as the Focus in terms of hardware) easily lasts a day and a half with all radios on, push email/notifications, and light usage (usually web browsing or videos). It seems strange that your Focus would only last 2 days when sitting completely idle.
Yeah my HTC surround has a really small battery (1230mAh) and it lasts almost a full day with moderate usage.
wp7 might not have the best idle-time batterylife. but on moderate use, they last about as long.
and with mango, batterylife while using improved massively. can't wait for mango with actual updated device drivers. can't be long anymore.
omnia 7 here.
but in the end, nothing beats my dumpphone from nokia that i use at work. idle time of two to three weeks.
hope to see wp7 go more into that direction. instead of upping the performance (which is not needed), use the more efficient newer hardware for longer batterylife.
and yes, so far all friends who have a wp7 are very happy with it. except they still don't have mango, and have seen it on mine
I think battery life is a useless topic, especially in Android. People used to flashing custom roms and kernels can never have same battery life on all roms or all the kernels and themes they are flashing.
Besides their are a lot of settings and culprit apps in Android which can eat away your battery if not recognized and managed.
So, battery life largely depends on user habits as well.
Just got my focus today. Have yet to see things in here.
http://www.comscore.com/Press_Event...gnificantly_Higher_Rates_of_Wi-Fi_Utilization
This might be why all the fruit people say there battery life is so great. But what does it say about how android and ios users and how they use there devices.
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Ever think Android users are on the go more than iPoop users, hence less wifi connections
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http://www.comscore.com/Press_Event...gnificantly_Higher_Rates_of_Wi-Fi_Utilization
This might be why all the fruit people say there battery life is so great. But what does it say about how android and ios users and how they use there devices.
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Well that's what happens when you let AT&T (and other carriers) have special hooks in your OS to turn WiFi on whenever it wants to without your consent.
It helps, but that's nowhere near the top of reasons why battery life is better on iPhones.
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Ever think Android users are on the go more than iPoop users, hence less wifi connections
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You know damn well that's not true lol. And as I noted above, iPhones are gently "forced" onto WiFi in public places when they're out of the house.
Interesting. I noticed this as well (through watching iPhone users I know personally) but wasn't sure about how broad this trend was.
At the risk of sounding biased, I feel like most iPhone users don't know to use their iPhones to maximum potential. iPhone users are the ones who ask "Is the restaurant open?" while Android users are the ones who actually know. Additionally, in my own experience, I feel that iPhone users have more limited data plans - they're always the ones asking for wifi passwords.
Of course, this is not the case for all users. Both OS are very capable and I definitely know of people on both who actually USE their phones the way they were meant to be used.
Doesn't matter.......i've owned the iPhone 4 and used the 4s.
Battery life is still just as great off wi-fi. It's a monster honestly.
I could go through 8-9 hours of display time over a course of a day and still have batter left over.
End of story, nothing can compare to it in battery life so far except the Razr Maxx......it's really that good.
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Doesn't matter.......i've owned the iPhone 4 and used the 4s.
Battery life is still just as great off wi-fi. It's a monster honestly.
I could go through 8-9 hours of display time over a course of a day and still have batter left over.
End of story, nothing can compare to it in battery life so far except the Razr Maxx......it's really that good.
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Yep. It pretty much destroys batt life.
Weird all the ios users I know complain about battery life
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ChongoDroid said:
Weird all the ios users I know complain about battery life
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It did get worse with iOS 5 and the iPhone 4S (welcome to cloud syncing LOL), but its still quite a bit better than most Android devices with similar usage patterns.
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Weird all the ios users I know complain about battery life
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They haven't used android
But yea....no seriously, iOS has some of the best battery life for a smartphone. Honestly it's the benchmark for smartphones for me
I could literally play games like Tiny Wings for hours and it would put a small dent in the battery......browse the web for another few hours, listen to music. And at the end of the day, have like 20-30% left. It was astonishing when I checked the display time on that thing.
Still.....android is more fun to use on a daily basis. Just needs to up it's game in the battery department really.
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They haven't used android
But yea....no seriously, iOS has some of the best battery life for a smartphone. Honestly it's the benchmark for smartphones for me
I could literally play games like Tiny Wings for hours and it would put a small dent in the battery......browse the web for another few hours, listen to music. And at the end of the day, have like 20-30% left. It was astonishing when I checked the display time on that thing.
Still.....android is more fun to use on a daily basis. Just needs to up it's game in the battery department really.
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I agree. The Razr Maxx is a welcome addition to that innovation since they use a monstrous non-removable battery. I am confident non-removable battery will no doubt become standard in Android soon.
One reason why I kind of want an iPhone, but ICS is too much fun.
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They haven't used android
But yea....no seriously, iOS has some of the best battery life for a smartphone. Honestly it's the benchmark for smartphones for me
I could literally play games like Tiny Wings for hours and it would put a small dent in the battery......browse the web for another few hours, listen to music. And at the end of the day, have like 20-30% left. It was astonishing when I checked the display time on that thing.
Still.....android is more fun to use on a daily basis. Just needs to up it's game in the battery department really.
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How well do you think an iPoop would do with a 4.65" 1280x720 res display? Our galaxy would probably do well with a 3.5" screen.
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How well do you think an iPoop would do with a 4.65" 1280x720 res display? Our galaxy would probably do well with a 3.5" screen.
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It's been tried lol
Just look at all the lower powered devices. It's more of the software itself and the integration between iOS and hardware.
I was getting amazing battery life on my iPhone 3GS also when the Nexus One would last maybe like 1/4 of my iPhone. Nexus One screen was a bit bigger, but still theres no denying it. We can't compare to iOS and iPhone's/iPads when it comes to battery life.
Theres no arguing it....it's a simple fact
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How well do you think an iPoop would do with a 4.65" 1280x720 res display? Our galaxy would probably do well with a 3.5" screen.
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Just look at some of the other Android phones that had 3.5" - 4" screens. They still didn't have great battery life.
The iPhone's screen is small, yes, but its still very bright (high power) and high resolution (just as high PPI). Its really just the end to end software+hardware combination that helps battery life. They put battery life really high on the list because Apple feels (rightly so) that its extremely important to customers.
"There will be no specific updates coming for the HTC One X to improve battery"
...say HTC.
It can all be found here at techradar.phones
Well what do you guys think? Are you satisfied by the battery considering the HOX's demanding setup? Mine lasts around ten hours with moderate to heavy use. Which is similar to my last phone, the SGS i9000. I found this quite acceptable.
HTC are a very reputable company, and often listen to their consumers (hence HTCdev). Is this latest move a shy away from that?
Would be great to hear everyones thoughts.
then...time to wait for mugen
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More than happy with mine. 2 days on battery with average use. 3 hours screen time during that time, with an hour using sat nav.
Slim
Im happy with mine 8.5 hours mod use data off wen not in use my gs2 lasts 10 galaxy nexus lasts 9 so it aint really that bad plus the screens awesome
Mod Or Die
I'm still waiting to see what mine will manage, before the update I had 11 hours. Come off charge this morning and this is what's left...
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The screen is such a power hog!
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The screen is such a power hog!
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It is considering my brightness is on the lowest, and all network is off minus WiFi.
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I'm not having an high end smartphone to constantly be in battery problems.
I consider the battery usage as a real annoying problem with no option to buy extra batteries.
Who buys a smartphone to use as less as possible???
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Happy here with battery life of One X, battery is even better than it was in SGS2. For me at least. Around ~36h battery time while SGS2 ~30 hours when I was using it.
Gawwd why do people expect something with the resolution of a tv, and the same amount of cores of a high end pc, to not take much battery? I think its a bloody miracle these smartphones last longer than 5 minutes! As I've said before, you wouldn't expect a supercar to be economical?
Plus, the battery is an improvement to my dhd , so that is another miracle, considering the extra horsepower behind the one x
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Gawwd why do people expect something with the resolution of a tv, and the same amount of cores of a high end pc, to not take much battery? I think its a bloody miracle these smartphones last longer than 5 minutes! As I've said before, you wouldn't expect a supercar to be economical?
Plus, the battery is an improvement to my dhd , so that is another miracle, considering the extra horsepower behind the one x
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Where's the like button? I really do wonder what people expect. Get a Motorola if you want the battery to last you for a week.
More than happy with the battery life of the handset. Lasts me from when I leave home in the morning till when I get home at night and then some. Beats having to charge my phone during the day like on my DHD.
People need to get used to charging their phone every night, really don't understand people's issues with that. What's the big deal?
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I know!!! My DHD is on the charger every night! It doesn't bother me
Why would they? It's fine.
To all the "glass half empty" whining types. You guys do know these things charge from USBs right. I got a great solution; plug it in when its running low.
Besides, the battery life is staggeringly good if you think about it. Mine lasts 2 days for simple calling and texting here and there and a whole day for quite heavy usage, browsing, YouTube, calls and so on. 18hours total, 4-4.5 hours screen on, 40/50mb data and 1.5 hours of calls yesterday, put it away at 1%, still not dead 2 hours of standby later.
Mine's OK, not great. I really didn't expect it to be. It'll be interesting to see how the S4 One XL does now that it's shipping. If it's about the same (with LTE off) than it's not a Teg3 issue. If it's dramatically better than we know it's not the display alone causing battery challenges.
I think that no update coming anytime soon is acceptable but no update AT ALL?
Im sorry but f*** that! Why can't they focus abit on the battery, some simple things would be to have less CRAP and bloatware, maybe if they could release 2 versions 1. simplified with the sense camera ONLY and rest ICS and the other with the full sense package that is really no necessary.
The most important thing to remember is that this a a PHONE to make calls and for that it works nicely and the battery lasts if you keep the screen off most of the time, but for a phone like this that was made to do more things I think you need to at the very least have a battery or a software symbiosis that can last for 8,9 hours of screen time.
Its Tegra 3 for f*** sake! With the super-dupe-triple-super-important-kill core2dou like nothing-quad-core-and a dedicated 5 companion core THAT IS SUPPOSE TO DELIVER KILLER BATTERY LIFE.
What is the problem?
I think there is simply too much Sense on the phone, too many uneceassy widgets and other crap that run in the background (oh you can flash cusom rom bla bla, you can freeze services with Titanium backup bla bla, but what if I want to use a stock rom?) bull**** I say, wih such and advanced CPU and memory and so on I do not see why you cannot have better battery life.
My Samsung Galaxy S2 can work for up to 3 days (ok it has a AMOLED ok ok but still, touchwhiz seems to not over run ICS) On stock ICS. Why? Because they have less 'painted over ICS functions that almost makes it run 2 OS's at the same time so maybe its no wonder the battery gets chewed up by all the sense applications.
This just my opinion from observing the phone and all the fanzy sense stuff after a week.
I believe this phone could be better in terms of software (without a doubt).
One thing they have to adress is the camera, why cant the image files be bigger than 2.9 megapixels? This is so stupid considering it has an 8 mpx camera... Also the full HD and 720p records in the latest firmware 1.28xx at approximately 24 fps and it should be 29 or 30. My Asus Prime records at a steady 30 fps at 1080p and 720p and its running Tegra 3 too.
They MUST at some point focus on battery life because if you dont have the juice to run all those fanzy apps and UI then why are they there in the first place?
I LOVE the weather graphics but I could live without it too (If I absolutely HAVE to....) the only thing necessary is the camera sense app because its the only thing that makes the phone unique and very fun and nice (but again whats the point without proper battery life?)
I hope HTC continues to work on making this one of the best first quad-core phone.
Another thing I noticed with SetCpu is that the phone is very high frequencies very frequently, if you install it and use the phone for a day you will see the graph scale, it uses 1.4 abut 40% of the time, but why? I never played games during this period or anything.
Im gonna keep my 1X because I love it and I believe in it and in the HTCdevs if they cant just be more positive perhaps
Cheers!
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Why would they? It's fine.
To all the "glass half empty" whining types. You guys do know these things charge from USBs right. I got a great solution; plug it in when its running low.
Besides, the battery life is staggeringly good if you think about it. Mine lasts 2 days for simple calling and texting here and there and a whole day for quite heavy usage, browsing, YouTube, calls and so on. 18hours total, 4-4.5 hours screen on, 40/50mb data and 1.5 hours of calls yesterday, put it away at 1%, still not dead 2 hours of standby later.
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4-4.5 hrs screen on isn't typical usage that the majority are getting though. Closer to 3 hrs.
It's easier to be quick to judge others when your own device defies the norm for the better.
If you were struggling to get 2.5 hrs , I doubt you'd be as chirpy about it all.
Two words that will help battery life without HTC - "custom kernels"
If you need to see the difference they make just ask in one of faux's threads, e.g. in the Sensation dev forum.
did the update improve the batterie life and if so , does the HOX still run as fast or did things low down ?
Pretty much echo the below , i have had an sgs2 and have an xperia s and this phone with its companion core is at least 33% worse on battery than both of these, and the processor is supposed to be more efficient . The display excuse won't wash much as the xperia s display is at least as bright/power hungry if not more .
I would love to see the exchange / return rates on this handset due to it not living up to its hype , let alone the fault rates.
And i am not whining, i upgraded to one, i like it , i will keep it and maybe one day learn to root it and replace the rom, but lets not kid ourselves its just not a finished polished product in terms of software !
thats my 2p, thanks for reading
james
Johnny0906 said:
I think that no update coming anytime soon is acceptable but no update AT ALL?
Im sorry but f*** that! Why can't they focus abit on the battery, some simple things would be to have less CRAP and bloatware, maybe if they could release 2 versions 1. simplified with the sense camera ONLY and rest ICS and the other with the full sense package that is really no necessary.
The most important thing to remember is that this a a PHONE to make calls and for that it works nicely and the battery lasts if you keep the screen off most of the time, but for a phone like this that was made to do more things I think you need to at the very least have a battery or a software symbiosis that can last for 8,9 hours of screen time.
Its Tegrra 3 for f*** sake! With the super-dupe-triple-super-important-kill core2dou like nothing-quad-core-and a dedicated 5 companion core THAT IS SUPPOSE TO DELIVER KILLER BATTERY LIFE.
What is the problem?
I think there is simply too much Sense on the phone, too many uneceassy widgets and other crap that run in the background (oh you can flash cusom rom bla bla, you can freeze services with Titanium backup bla bla, but what if I want to use a stock rom?) bull**** I say, wih such and advanced CPU and memory and so on I do not see why you cannot have better battery life.
My Samsung Galaxy S2 can work for up to 3 days (ok it has a AMOLED ok ok but still, touchwhiz seems to not over run ICS) On stock ICS. Why? Because they have less 'painted over ICS functions that almost makes it run 2 OS's at the same time so maybe its no wonder the battery gets chewed up by all the sense applications.
This just my opinion from observing the phone and all the fanzy sense stuff after a week.
I believe this phone could be better in terms of software (without a doubt).
They MUST at some point focus on battery life because if you dont have the juice to run all those fanzy apps and UI then why are they there in the first place?
I hope HTC continues to work on making this one of the best and first quad-core phones.
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Does anyone know which device has a better battery life? I'm having hard like deciding which one to buy and I care about battery life the most in a phone. So if anyone knows please reply!
After owning them, I can say Note 2 has, say 15-20% better battery backup than iPhone 5.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1916790
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Does anyone know which device has a better battery life? I'm having hard like deciding which one to buy and I care about battery life the most in a phone. So if anyone knows please reply!
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I can't speak to the iphone 5, but the Galaxy Note 2 is by far the best battery life mobile device I have ever used.
Unplugged when I wake up around 730-8am, Pandora in the shower and while I get dressed, gps/google maps/pandora on the way to work, web browsing, downloading, some games during the day, pandora and sometimes gps at lunch, browsing, downloading in the afternoon, gps, google maps and pandora on the way home, it's always above 50% when I get home around 6-7pm. Just as a test I left Pandora running when I got home once and didn't plug it in, by midnight I still had 20%+ battery left.
This thing is a BEAST on battery life. I cannot imagine the iphone 5 with much smaller battery being better.... possible maybe, but not likely.
Hahaaj this is some kind of joke?
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Sounds like it has a decent battery life. Thanks for your input guys.
dzontra11 said:
Hahaaj this is some kind of joke?
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If it was a joke I'm sure it's far less funnier than the way you look. Why don't you keep your comments to yourself if you got nothing better to say k?
Note2 has the best battery life among all the smart phones I have used so far. Best by a mile.
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I can't speak to the iphone 5, but the Galaxy Note 2 is by far the best battery life mobile device I have ever used.
Unplugged when I wake up around 730-8am, Pandora in the shower and while I get dressed, gps/google maps/pandora on the way to work, web browsing, downloading, some games during the day, pandora and sometimes gps at lunch, browsing, downloading in the afternoon, gps, google maps and pandora on the way home, it's always above 50% when I get home around 6-7pm. Just as a test I left Pandora running when I got home once and didn't plug it in, by midnight I still had 20%+ battery left.
This thing is a BEAST on battery life. I cannot imagine the iphone 5 with much smaller battery being better.... possible maybe, but not likely.
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im curious, but why so much gps if you know where your going? traffic updates?
Scythe024 said:
im curious, but why so much gps if you know where your going? traffic updates?
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My guess is that GPS is needed when outside to ensure that phone is trackable in case it is lost/stolen.
For smartphones, Note 2 battery life is only second to RAZR MAXX, which has a 3300mah battery and a smaller screen.
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Iphone 4 bttery 1400mah
Iphone 4s battery 1450mah
Iphone 5 battery 1450 mah with larger scrren and afaster processor
So apple has increased the size and functionality of the phone and given somewhat the same battery power
Our phone note 2 has a 3100 mah battery and would beat the ip5 hands down
I was on ip4 and the battery was wery good my friends 4s battery draind like hell and he switched to ip4 again ans the same reasonhe didnot buy aiphone 5 cause the battery is same asthe 4s wt abigger screen and 4g on idont think the baterrys gonna last
The only reaso i changed frm s2 to note is fr battery life and i am gettin 3 times more battery than my s2 andd abouttwice as much than the iphone 4 which is by date the best iphone in tems of speed and battery life
So i can say buy note2 or a iphone4 if u want agood battery life
I am happy to hv switched over to note 2
iOS is much lighter and well optimized than Android, so it doesn't actually mean 1450 mAh battery of iPhone 5 will give a bad backup or something.
I really am enjoying the iPhone 5 battery backup, getting almost 2 days out of it. But as I said, Note 2 gives little better backup, at least 20% I would say.
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In Iphone is you get is an app drawer. There are no home screen, widgets, and the dozens of other features available in android. In an Iphone, when you put an app in the background, it pauses the app, as opposed to android, which keep the app running in the background. Does that make it lighter than android? Sure, but I don't know if I'd call crippled functionality and giving users the bare minimum as "optimized", but whatever floats your boat.
Works about as long, if not longer than my G1 with extended battery.
with moderate use the battery runs to 75-80% Leaving it on all night I barely lost any battery. It was ready for day 2.
After heavy use it was at 50% by midnight(from 9am)
It's all to do with individual usage. Different hardware and different operating systems make it impossible to compare.
Surely iOS vs Android would be more of a deciding factor?
The Note ii battery is excellent.
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In Iphone is you get is an app drawer. There are no home screen, widgets, and the dozens of other features available in android. In an Iphone, when you put an app in the background, it pauses the app, as opposed to android, which keep the app running in the background. Does that make it lighter than android? Sure, but I don't know if I'd call crippled functionality and giving users the bare minimum as "optimized", but whatever floats your boat.
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True but on the other hand you don't need battery monitoring cpu apps like andeoid which can cause problems from pos apps thats cause wakelocks like ebay etc.one thing I like about iPhone is the single push notification service which runs which handles all push traffic and doesn't rely on phone having multiple data connections open to random foreign servers, google should do something similar.. There are some good points of iPhone that google should steal as apple does itself, PNS is one of them. But I'm not going to turn this into an apple debate.
Those with note 2, with heavy usage did u ever have to charge it twice a day? Heavy usage as in watching lots of YouTube videos, browsing the web, texting, using a bit of GPS and such
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Does anyone know which device has a better battery life? I'm having hard like deciding which one to buy and I care about battery life the most in a phone. So if anyone knows please reply!
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I am sure Note2 better than iphone5....
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iOS is much lighter and well optimized than Android, so it doesn't actually mean 1450 mAh battery of iPhone 5 will give a bad backup or something.
I really am enjoying the iPhone 5 battery backup, getting almost 2 days out of it. But as I said, Note 2 gives little better backup, at least 20% I would say.
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That's the same reason an Escalade will have a bigger gas tank than a Yaris, even though the latter is "lighter".