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This might be why all the fruit people say there battery life is so great. But what does it say about how android and ios users and how they use there devices.
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Ever think Android users are on the go more than iPoop users, hence less wifi connections
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http://www.comscore.com/Press_Event...gnificantly_Higher_Rates_of_Wi-Fi_Utilization
This might be why all the fruit people say there battery life is so great. But what does it say about how android and ios users and how they use there devices.
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Well that's what happens when you let AT&T (and other carriers) have special hooks in your OS to turn WiFi on whenever it wants to without your consent.
It helps, but that's nowhere near the top of reasons why battery life is better on iPhones.
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Ever think Android users are on the go more than iPoop users, hence less wifi connections
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You know damn well that's not true lol. And as I noted above, iPhones are gently "forced" onto WiFi in public places when they're out of the house.
Interesting. I noticed this as well (through watching iPhone users I know personally) but wasn't sure about how broad this trend was.
At the risk of sounding biased, I feel like most iPhone users don't know to use their iPhones to maximum potential. iPhone users are the ones who ask "Is the restaurant open?" while Android users are the ones who actually know. Additionally, in my own experience, I feel that iPhone users have more limited data plans - they're always the ones asking for wifi passwords.
Of course, this is not the case for all users. Both OS are very capable and I definitely know of people on both who actually USE their phones the way they were meant to be used.
Doesn't matter.......i've owned the iPhone 4 and used the 4s.
Battery life is still just as great off wi-fi. It's a monster honestly.
I could go through 8-9 hours of display time over a course of a day and still have batter left over.
End of story, nothing can compare to it in battery life so far except the Razr Maxx......it's really that good.
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Doesn't matter.......i've owned the iPhone 4 and used the 4s.
Battery life is still just as great off wi-fi. It's a monster honestly.
I could go through 8-9 hours of display time over a course of a day and still have batter left over.
End of story, nothing can compare to it in battery life so far except the Razr Maxx......it's really that good.
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Yep. It pretty much destroys batt life.
Weird all the ios users I know complain about battery life
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Weird all the ios users I know complain about battery life
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It did get worse with iOS 5 and the iPhone 4S (welcome to cloud syncing LOL), but its still quite a bit better than most Android devices with similar usage patterns.
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They haven't used android
But yea....no seriously, iOS has some of the best battery life for a smartphone. Honestly it's the benchmark for smartphones for me
I could literally play games like Tiny Wings for hours and it would put a small dent in the battery......browse the web for another few hours, listen to music. And at the end of the day, have like 20-30% left. It was astonishing when I checked the display time on that thing.
Still.....android is more fun to use on a daily basis. Just needs to up it's game in the battery department really.
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They haven't used android
But yea....no seriously, iOS has some of the best battery life for a smartphone. Honestly it's the benchmark for smartphones for me
I could literally play games like Tiny Wings for hours and it would put a small dent in the battery......browse the web for another few hours, listen to music. And at the end of the day, have like 20-30% left. It was astonishing when I checked the display time on that thing.
Still.....android is more fun to use on a daily basis. Just needs to up it's game in the battery department really.
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I agree. The Razr Maxx is a welcome addition to that innovation since they use a monstrous non-removable battery. I am confident non-removable battery will no doubt become standard in Android soon.
One reason why I kind of want an iPhone, but ICS is too much fun.
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They haven't used android
But yea....no seriously, iOS has some of the best battery life for a smartphone. Honestly it's the benchmark for smartphones for me
I could literally play games like Tiny Wings for hours and it would put a small dent in the battery......browse the web for another few hours, listen to music. And at the end of the day, have like 20-30% left. It was astonishing when I checked the display time on that thing.
Still.....android is more fun to use on a daily basis. Just needs to up it's game in the battery department really.
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How well do you think an iPoop would do with a 4.65" 1280x720 res display? Our galaxy would probably do well with a 3.5" screen.
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How well do you think an iPoop would do with a 4.65" 1280x720 res display? Our galaxy would probably do well with a 3.5" screen.
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It's been tried lol
Just look at all the lower powered devices. It's more of the software itself and the integration between iOS and hardware.
I was getting amazing battery life on my iPhone 3GS also when the Nexus One would last maybe like 1/4 of my iPhone. Nexus One screen was a bit bigger, but still theres no denying it. We can't compare to iOS and iPhone's/iPads when it comes to battery life.
Theres no arguing it....it's a simple fact
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Just look at some of the other Android phones that had 3.5" - 4" screens. They still didn't have great battery life.
The iPhone's screen is small, yes, but its still very bright (high power) and high resolution (just as high PPI). Its really just the end to end software+hardware combination that helps battery life. They put battery life really high on the list because Apple feels (rightly so) that its extremely important to customers.
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I just had a generic question for people more knowledgeable on the subject than I am.
I recently just tried the Darkside Kernel with Juggernaut 5. In 5 hrs time my battery dropped only 10%. Which for me is fantastic. I tweeted to TDJ thanking him for the kernel and the improved battery life.
"A friend of mine" I use that term loosely because he's been a real a$$ lately, who is also an iphone user then posts on his twitter.
"its been almost 2 days since I last charged my phone. Still at 66% even with regular use."
How is this possible? Isn't the battery in our phone better than the iphone even running a stock ROM. Is he just over estimating to make himself feel good? Any ideas or responses would be appreciated. Thanks.
This clearly is a YMMV situation. The iPhone has been engineered from top to bottom to be as miserly as possible where power consumption is concerned. Every piece of it has been optimized with power consumption in mind. That said, as ADB junkies we're probably doing much more with our buddy Andy than he is with his iPhone. Our screens are bigger, internals use more power, etc. etc.
My guess is if you took an iPhone with similar specs as our device and ran them thru similar tests you'd probably see similar results.
The iPhone 4s on ios 5 has horrific battery life in stand by. Almost no difference in mah pull with the screen off or on. So I'd say with non stop gaming their about the same. But in the pocket ours last alot longer.
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The iPhone 4s on ios 5 has horrific battery life in stand by. Almost no difference in mah pull with the screen off or on. So I'd say with non stop gaming their about the same. But in the pocket ours last alot longer.
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That's what I thought as well. I think he is just trying to be one of those high and mighty iphone users (not all iphone users are like that) that think they are better than everyone else bragging for some reason.
I wasn't comparing what I have to his phone, I was thanking TDJ for improving my battery life on what I have. I just thought his comment was kinda far fetched but had to confirm with people who know more about the subject than I do.
When I had the iPhone 4 forever ago, it regularly lasted 4 to 5 hours a day with LIGHT use. No sync, low brightness. It made me want to throw it out of a window. I left that device and never looked back.
-the ultimate black dragon-
From what I have seen, iPhones have horrible battery life specially with that bug in iOS 5 which Apple said they resolved. However on the other hand iTouches and iPads have great battery life due to the fact that they don't have radios except for the wifi
My girlfriend had to hack the crap out of the SSH in her ipad and remove a bunch of the iPhone damens to get good battery life, because all of the iDevices use the same ios.
My 2nd gen iTouch has iPhone 4s damens and its running ios 4.2.something and has been for years. Kinda weird.
But the ipad gets about a month in stand by with little use.
And the iTouch can get up to 3 if I forget it exists.
All in all, every thing sucks until you hack it.
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lets face it. we just need larger batteries lol.
Just wanted to say thank you to all who participate in this forum as it was always extremely helpful for me over the past couple of years.
I have the One X (European Version) for two weeks now and I think its a great phone! I love HTC Sense (that was a reason to go for the One X and not Samsung S III) and I find that the design, the screen etc gives nothing away to Apple or Samsung (saying this as a happy iPad and MacBook Air owner btw!)!
What bothers me slightly is all the reports about battery life and I thought I add a littlebit to it:
My first mobile was a Siemens S3 with a Ni-MH battery (many moons ago) which lasted me about a day with normal usage. I then (thanks to eBay) had many many many mobiles mainly from Siemens, Nokia, SonyEricsson and lately Apple and HTC.
With the introduction of color screens that got bigger with every new release, I saw my battery time going down. The smartphones were introduced and battery time went down further. I remember my first 3G smartphone (though not what it was) and how shocked I was that I had to charge it in the office as it didn't last a whole day. Then I upgraded to an iPhone 3G and it was only slightly better.
Now I am the proud owner of the One X with a massive screen and a quad-core processor and with medium usage it lasts one (office) day.
Am I unhappy about it? No! The reason for that is that I came to realize that while there were constant developments in smartphone technology, the Li-ion battery development is more or less still where it was about 10 years ago.
I think the battery time is the price to pay for a very very high spec phone until there is a breakthrough with fuel cell batteries and I personally are very happy to pay it esp as most of us have the ability to charge our phones at least twice a day.
Again, thanks to everyone for this great forum!
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Actually a lot have happend in the battery department. We could only have one battery charge a month if we actually had in our phones. If they just could release it to the masses ....
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Actually a lot have happend in the battery department. We could only have one battery charge a month if we actually had in our phones. If they just could release it to the masses ....
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LOL yeah!!, the stupid dimwits dont see the market potential it seems! ;-)
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Actually a lot have happend in the battery department. We could only have one battery charge a month if we actually had in our phones. If they just could release it to the masses ....
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That kind of technology is not ready yet, it is not safe, lithum-ion batteries sometimes blow up destroying itself, taking down whole house in fire so what would happen to the month capacity battery if it fails ? a hand grande type of blow up i think. We cant have this for a reason, more important is how far we can push cpu clock in a given nano-micron technology before it will be too frustrating to charge every now and then.
I think the battery life on the HOX is brilliant. I had a Desire HD before, and I noticed quite a difference moving to the HOX.
I just charge mine over night and it's all good.
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I think the battery life on the HOX is brilliant. I had a Desire HD before, and I noticed quite a difference moving to the HOX.
I just charge mine over night and it's all good.
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You just said my words, also once the playing time with the shiny gadget decreases the battery time automatically increases.
Coming from a heavily optimized HD2, I used to get 6-7 hours when the phone was used massively, say 1.5-2 hours of screen on time, whereas with a bigger screen and 5 times the processor and faster mind you .. HOX lasts me a day when I keep playing with it (2.5-3hrs of screen on time). Its just an upgradation from 1200 to 1800 mah . Also point to note.. my HOX is un rooted with Sense with all its glory, HD2 was on CM7.
I like to keep my charger with me, at least the cable.. it just gives me a peace of mind.
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I think the battery life on the HOX is brilliant. I had a Desire HD before, and I noticed quite a difference moving to the HOX.
I just charge mine over night and it's all good.
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Wish I could say the same personally, I could always get a full days use out of my DHD including doing lots of browsing and gaming. Makes me wonder if my battery is faulty
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Does anyone know which device has a better battery life? I'm having hard like deciding which one to buy and I care about battery life the most in a phone. So if anyone knows please reply!
After owning them, I can say Note 2 has, say 15-20% better battery backup than iPhone 5.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1916790
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Does anyone know which device has a better battery life? I'm having hard like deciding which one to buy and I care about battery life the most in a phone. So if anyone knows please reply!
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I can't speak to the iphone 5, but the Galaxy Note 2 is by far the best battery life mobile device I have ever used.
Unplugged when I wake up around 730-8am, Pandora in the shower and while I get dressed, gps/google maps/pandora on the way to work, web browsing, downloading, some games during the day, pandora and sometimes gps at lunch, browsing, downloading in the afternoon, gps, google maps and pandora on the way home, it's always above 50% when I get home around 6-7pm. Just as a test I left Pandora running when I got home once and didn't plug it in, by midnight I still had 20%+ battery left.
This thing is a BEAST on battery life. I cannot imagine the iphone 5 with much smaller battery being better.... possible maybe, but not likely.
Hahaaj this is some kind of joke?
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Sounds like it has a decent battery life. Thanks for your input guys.
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Hahaaj this is some kind of joke?
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If it was a joke I'm sure it's far less funnier than the way you look. Why don't you keep your comments to yourself if you got nothing better to say k?
Note2 has the best battery life among all the smart phones I have used so far. Best by a mile.
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I can't speak to the iphone 5, but the Galaxy Note 2 is by far the best battery life mobile device I have ever used.
Unplugged when I wake up around 730-8am, Pandora in the shower and while I get dressed, gps/google maps/pandora on the way to work, web browsing, downloading, some games during the day, pandora and sometimes gps at lunch, browsing, downloading in the afternoon, gps, google maps and pandora on the way home, it's always above 50% when I get home around 6-7pm. Just as a test I left Pandora running when I got home once and didn't plug it in, by midnight I still had 20%+ battery left.
This thing is a BEAST on battery life. I cannot imagine the iphone 5 with much smaller battery being better.... possible maybe, but not likely.
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im curious, but why so much gps if you know where your going? traffic updates?
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im curious, but why so much gps if you know where your going? traffic updates?
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My guess is that GPS is needed when outside to ensure that phone is trackable in case it is lost/stolen.
For smartphones, Note 2 battery life is only second to RAZR MAXX, which has a 3300mah battery and a smaller screen.
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Iphone 4 bttery 1400mah
Iphone 4s battery 1450mah
Iphone 5 battery 1450 mah with larger scrren and afaster processor
So apple has increased the size and functionality of the phone and given somewhat the same battery power
Our phone note 2 has a 3100 mah battery and would beat the ip5 hands down
I was on ip4 and the battery was wery good my friends 4s battery draind like hell and he switched to ip4 again ans the same reasonhe didnot buy aiphone 5 cause the battery is same asthe 4s wt abigger screen and 4g on idont think the baterrys gonna last
The only reaso i changed frm s2 to note is fr battery life and i am gettin 3 times more battery than my s2 andd abouttwice as much than the iphone 4 which is by date the best iphone in tems of speed and battery life
So i can say buy note2 or a iphone4 if u want agood battery life
I am happy to hv switched over to note 2
iOS is much lighter and well optimized than Android, so it doesn't actually mean 1450 mAh battery of iPhone 5 will give a bad backup or something.
I really am enjoying the iPhone 5 battery backup, getting almost 2 days out of it. But as I said, Note 2 gives little better backup, at least 20% I would say.
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In Iphone is you get is an app drawer. There are no home screen, widgets, and the dozens of other features available in android. In an Iphone, when you put an app in the background, it pauses the app, as opposed to android, which keep the app running in the background. Does that make it lighter than android? Sure, but I don't know if I'd call crippled functionality and giving users the bare minimum as "optimized", but whatever floats your boat.
Works about as long, if not longer than my G1 with extended battery.
with moderate use the battery runs to 75-80% Leaving it on all night I barely lost any battery. It was ready for day 2.
After heavy use it was at 50% by midnight(from 9am)
It's all to do with individual usage. Different hardware and different operating systems make it impossible to compare.
Surely iOS vs Android would be more of a deciding factor?
The Note ii battery is excellent.
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In Iphone is you get is an app drawer. There are no home screen, widgets, and the dozens of other features available in android. In an Iphone, when you put an app in the background, it pauses the app, as opposed to android, which keep the app running in the background. Does that make it lighter than android? Sure, but I don't know if I'd call crippled functionality and giving users the bare minimum as "optimized", but whatever floats your boat.
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True but on the other hand you don't need battery monitoring cpu apps like andeoid which can cause problems from pos apps thats cause wakelocks like ebay etc.one thing I like about iPhone is the single push notification service which runs which handles all push traffic and doesn't rely on phone having multiple data connections open to random foreign servers, google should do something similar.. There are some good points of iPhone that google should steal as apple does itself, PNS is one of them. But I'm not going to turn this into an apple debate.
Those with note 2, with heavy usage did u ever have to charge it twice a day? Heavy usage as in watching lots of YouTube videos, browsing the web, texting, using a bit of GPS and such
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I am sure Note2 better than iphone5....
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iOS is much lighter and well optimized than Android, so it doesn't actually mean 1450 mAh battery of iPhone 5 will give a bad backup or something.
I really am enjoying the iPhone 5 battery backup, getting almost 2 days out of it. But as I said, Note 2 gives little better backup, at least 20% I would say.
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That's the same reason an Escalade will have a bigger gas tank than a Yaris, even though the latter is "lighter".
Garbage battery life...I mean just pathetic. Yet it's so beautiful... How did this go wrong?
That stuff aside. Is the watch worth getting? (Serious)
I dunno man, it sounds to me like the battery, although not amazing, is not as bad as initially reported.
As with any tech device, the first couple charges are not at its peak performance.
As for me, the first one I bought sold on ebay so I'm gonna get another to keep, for free!
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I dunno man, it sounds to me like the battery, although not amazing, is not as bad as initially reported.
As with any tech device, the first couple charges are not at its peak performance.
As for me, the first one I bought sold on ebay so I'm gonna get another to keep, for free!
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Free?
I mean... How can they claim 24 hours of battery? the best I am seeing is like 9.
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Free?
I mean... How can they claim 24 hours of battery? the best I am seeing is like 9.
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I sold the first one I got for 500 so its essentially free to me if i buy another one.
Battery has lasted me since 5am this morning, it is now 5:30 pm here, and I still have 26%. Good enough for me. I have loved every second of it, and highly recommend it.
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Battery has lasted me since 5am this morning, it is now 5:30 pm here, and I still have 26%. Good enough for me. I have loved every second of it, and highly recommend it.
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Are you a lite or heavy user?
I have only had it for 24 hours total. I have screen off. Off charger since 615AM today and its now 240PM. Moderate use, playing with faces, reading and sending about 20msgs total...reading news on it....and its at 44%. I am going to give it a full week before I make up my mind on it. If it can go a full day, then I am happy with it. I knew going in it wasnt going to be 2+ days of usage. Its not a Pebble. It has an AMAZING screen.
PS. Even with the screen off, I have had 10+ people ask me what watch that is. It is a beautiful watch. And some of the people asking having 10k+ watches that they are wearing and said it looked better than theirs. Imagine once some better faces come out for it.
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Probably somewhere between. I'm a huge clock watcher, so I check frequently. And there was a fair bit of showing off today too
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I shall get one...BUT IF THY'S BATTERY SUCKETH...It shall goeth back.
Battery sucks if you drive or cause the acelerometer to pop constantly. Take your watch off before you drive until they have a car mode. Driving 3 hours is the only way I killed it within 16 hours.
I'm asking myself this question too, and I'm tending towards "No." Motorola need to have a very quick rethink, and rework this thing with a CPU that is on a newer process, and preferably a higher charge-density on the battery pack too.
Shoving a five-year-old, inefficient 45nm processor from 2009 (http://newscenter.ti.com/index.php?s=32851&item=125993) into a 2014-15 season smartwatch was a terrible, terrible idea. We should be on a 22nm or perhaps even a 14nm process by now. 45nm is a 2007 process, and it's hopelessly inefficient compared to today's tech.
There's a reason we didn't have smartwatches in 2007-2009, and making one in 2014 with technology from then is insanity.
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I'm asking myself this question too, and I'm tending towards "No." Motorola need to have a very quick rethink, and rework this thing with a CPU that is on a newer process, and preferably a higher charge-density on the battery pack too.
Shoving a five-year-old, inefficient 45nm processor from 2009 (http://newscenter.ti.com/index.php?s=32851&item=125993) into a 2014-15 season smartwatch was a terrible, terrible idea. We should be on a 22nm or perhaps even a 14nm process by now. 45nm is a 2007 process, and it's hopelessly inefficient compared to today's tech.
There's a reason we didn't have smartwatches in 2007-2009, and making one in 2014 with technology from then is insanity.
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The SoC is only one component in what is a cohesive design. Is it a weak spot? Sure. Is it a deal breaker? Maybe. I'll have to wait til mine gets here to give it a good testing and see how it works for my lifestyle. But from what the majority of people are saying, the way I will likely use it, I'll get plenty of battery life and a quality, smooth user experience even with the old SoC.
So, seems to me, if my needs are met as a consumer it doesn't matter much what timestamp is on the chip.
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The SoC is only one component in what is a cohesive design. Is it a weak spot? Sure. Is it a deal breaker? Maybe. I'll have to wait til mine gets here to give it a good testing and see how it works for my lifestyle. But from what the majority of people are saying, the way I will likely use it, I'll get plenty of battery life and a quality, smooth user experience even with the old SoC.
So, seems to me, if my needs are met as a consumer it doesn't matter much what timestamp is on the chip.
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Battery life from most user reports and early reviews is pretty dismal, and that's when the watch is brand new. Unless you plan on replacing it every 12 months, you need to be thinking about battery life not now, but once the battery has degraded for 18 months or two years -- by which time you're going to be needing to recharge in the middle of the day.
For a $100-150 product, this would be great. For $250 to $300 depending on strap, it's totally unacceptable.
Yeah I can't believe they went with that old POS processor....the videos I've seen of the watch lagging just make me cringe, it could have been so much better! Was it really that hard to put a Snapdragon 400 in there? And I was really hoping for a higher PPI screen, or at least AMOLED.
However, I still will be getting one. I know it will die quicker and lag more than a LG G Watch, but damnit at least it'll look good while doing it.
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This. 1000x this.
I would rather have my 360 and charge it daily than have a brick on my wrist that lasts a few days.
I loved my Pebble, but it was not one bit attractive. Its an easy trade off to make. I charge my phone daily, I charge my laptop daily, what's the problem with charging a watch daily?
I'm kinda disappointed with the SoC they have chosen and the not as good battery life.
But I'll get one anyway cause it just looks really sexy.
I have no problems with battery life. 14 hours off the charger yesterday evening, I was at 50%. Better than my phone battery. Ambient mode off, moderate use.
I've chuckled at a few comments in this thread... Unacceptable this, unforgivable that, this is the first android watch worth buying so far. Its the first that actually looks like a ... Oh dare I say watch and something a normal non-ubernerd would wear. Its like the ecogeeks that love how all the prius' look. The industry finally got to the point you could drive a hybrid without looking like you're actually out hugging trees. I have the watch there is no unbelievable epic lagging and even if there was some lag... Its a watch. Not a quad core 3 gb ram uber phone but a watch. Sure they could have gone with a better chip but battery life is typical for an android watch for the most part. It isn't some great travesty and moto cover up a lot of cost likely went into the design creation and marketing of this watch and as such some corners had to be shaved. If they had put in a better chip and if they could have fit a bigger battery in you'd have a larger watch ... Wait for the omgs flying at that point or a $100 price difference that again y'all would be whining about. I love it could it be better yes but that's where version 2 and 3 come in. What phone do you own for 2+ years.... None you upgrade why would a first edition smartwatch be ANY different?
^ I echo a lot of this. The majority of people including myself could not even conceive what goes into developing a product like this. Since when did everyone become so spoiled lol. There's a computer on your wrist! It's an amazing feat! If you want the perfect device then wait a few years, in the meantime I'm gonna enjoy an incredible piece of tech
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^ I echo a lot of this. The majority of people including myself could not even conceive what goes into developing a product like this. Since when did everyone become so spoiled lol. There's a computer on your wrist! It's an amazing feat! If you want the perfect device then wait a few years, in the meantime I'm gonna enjoy an incredible piece of tech
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Because it is a waste of materials and very obvious spoon feeding of tech. Using an old processor? Why? Just recycle them an use a current one.
This has nothing to be with being spoiled, this has to do with principle. Why on earth make a nice new product with old under powered tech? It is a waste of a product.
I'm trying to decide between these two and and battery life (SOT) will be the deciding factor for me. I've never owned an iPhone or a Pixel before so I'm not sure what to expect with the Pro's battery life while the Max has been getting universal accolades for its SOT. I've always been an android guy (galaxy notes mostly) and don't like apple (variety of reasons) but the new 13 pro max has set the standard when it comes to hardware with the best camera & video capabilities and now battery life so I'm reluctantly considering it.
I understand in some ways it's not fair to compare these two flagships considering their price difference so I don't expect the 6 pro to match the Max toe to toe with and that's ok. Since they both utilize an LTPO display though I guess it all comes down to software utilization when it comes to their SOT. On paper and looking at the battery specs- the 6 pro should wipe the floor with the Pro Max but since I've never owned a google phone I'm not sure how that'll translate in real life.
Past Pixel and future 6 Pro owners- what are your expectations when it comes to battery life/ SOT once you get your 6 Pros? Do you expect to come close to a full 2 days battery life before having to charge it? If anyone has owned/ will own both please feel free to share your your SOT experience and which one you feel is better.
In short will the Pixel 6 Pro match or even exceed the 13 Pro Max's battery life?
Thanks!
Android over IOS for me any day,daughter has iPhone 13 pro ,be carefully some features only available if you buy the larger storage options
Wait till the reviews on monday
combat goofwing said:
Android over IOS for me any day,daughter has iPhone 13 pro ,be carefully some features only available if you buy the larger storage options
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you mean for the iphone 13 pro has limited features due to large storage?
dj24 said:
I'm trying to decide between these two and and battery life (SOT) will be the deciding factor for me. I've never owned an iPhone or a Pixel before so I'm not sure what to expect with the Pro's battery life while the Max has been getting universal accolades for its SOT. I've always been an android guy (galaxy notes mostly) and don't like apple (variety of reasons) but the new 13 pro max has set the standard when it comes to hardware with the best camera & video capabilities and now battery life so I'm reluctantly considering it.
I understand in some ways it's not fair to compare these two flagships considering their price difference so I don't expect the 6 pro to match the Max toe to toe with and that's ok. Since they both utilize an LTPO display though I guess it all comes down to software utilization when it comes to their SOT. On paper and looking at the battery specs- the 6 pro should wipe the floor with the Pro Max but since I've never owned a google phone I'm not sure how that'll translate in real life.
Past Pixel and future 6 Pro owners- what are your expectations when it comes to battery life/ SOT once you get your 6 Pros? Do you expect to come close to a full 2 days battery life before having to charge it? If anyone has owned/ will own both please feel free to share your your SOT experience and which one you feel is better.
In short will the Pixel 6 Pro match or even exceed the 13 Pro Max's battery life?
Thanks!
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Gapps, by far, are the worst offender when it comes to battery life. With a little bit of effort and root, you can tame them to a significant degree. With some determination, you can replace them entirely with something that is more supportive of your freedom (I've *completely* replaced all goog with a self-hosted instance of Nextcloud and I don't install gapps -- not even microG).
But here is the thing about battery life. Its not even reasonable to measure it in ways its usually presented, because what it really comes down to is (a) usage, and (b) network connection. Screen on, but doing nothing, will use a lot less battery than screen on, and running video gamez.
As far as camera and video capabilities go... apple people will praise apple. Look for INDEPENDENT and CRITICAL reviews to get something more honest. I really doubt that they have anything on the P6's. Google's been ahead in photography for years now, and its really burning the fruit company since in the before-time, its the ONLY thing they actually had. Now they don't even have that.
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you mean for the iphone 13 pro has limited features due to large storage?
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Yes if you get the standard storage the cinematic mode doesn't record in 4k ,there's a couple of other little things like that
combat goofwing said:
Yes if you get the standard storage the cinematic mode doesn't record in 4k ,there's a couple of other little things like that
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Without really giving a crap, I'm going to guess that they are going to claim that its because the flash chips are in RAID-0 so won't be fast enough without the bigger (more chips) option.
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Gapps, by far, are the worst offender when it comes to battery life. With a little bit of effort and root, you can tame them to a significant degree. With some determination, you can replace them entirely with something that is more supportive of your freedom (I've *completely* replaced all goog with a self-hosted instance of Nextcloud and I don't install gapps -- not even microG).
But here is the thing about battery life. Its not even reasonable to measure it in ways its usually presented, because what it really comes down to is (a) usage, and (b) network connection. Screen on, but doing nothing, will use a lot less battery than screen on, and running video gamez.
As far as camera and video capabilities go... apple people will praise apple. Look for INDEPENDENT and CRITICAL reviews to get something more honest. I really doubt that they have anything on the P6's. Google's been ahead in photography for years now, and its really burning the fruit company since in the before-time, its the ONLY thing they actually had. Now they don't even have that.
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I agree with most of what you said. Pixels have undoubtedly been the camera champs maybe equaled by more recent Huawei flagships. However there's no question that iPhones have had the best video quality of any one out there for a while now. This is all here and there and I don't really care that much anymore because the gap isn't that big unless you're an enthusiast or someone zooming or pixel peeping (which I'm not... for the most part }
I also agree with you about apps in general but you can nowadays put them in deep sleep so they barely use any in the background for the most part. I don't use a lot of apps but it's interesting since you bring up a good point as to whether ios does a better job than android when it comes to battery optimization. I'll have to do more research on that.
I think different companies like Motorolla, Realme and others have great battery optimization while the mainstream ones less so. Now Apple seems to have made a leap in this regard too. Gsmarena has a great tool to measure overall battery life and just look at this list where android phones (mostly not found stateside) dominate.
Previous Iphones weren't any good when it came to battery life. Apples forum is flooded with people complaining about battery life which is why they spent a lot of time talking about the improved battery life on the iPhone 13. My last iPhone was the iPhone X and it would only last me 6 hours of medium usage.
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Previous Iphones weren't any good when it came to battery life. Apples forum is flooded with people complaining about battery life which is why they spent a lot of time talking about the improved battery life on the iPhone 13. My last iPhone was the iPhone X and it would only last me 6 hours of medium usage.
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That's why they call it Iphonie!
Why bother so much about the battery if both phones have a fast charger!!
DinarQ8 said:
Why bother so much about the battery if both phones have a fast charger!!
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Because youre not always near a plug socket
hello00 said:
Previous Iphones weren't any good when it came to battery life. Apples forum is flooded with people complaining about battery life which is why they spent a lot of time talking about the improved battery life on the iPhone 13. My last iPhone was the iPhone X and it would only last me 6 hours of medium usage.
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You're right but talking strictly flagship they've been incrementally improving since the 11 Pro Max. The 13 Pro Max has taken a drastic step forward even more so where I feel mainstream android in general (like Samsung) have to respond or they're going to lose potentially more people like me.
Anyways I see so far no one is predicting how the 6 pro's battery life will compare to the 13 max Pro.
I'll take a leap and say I think the tensor chip coupled with the LTPO display with google's clean android overlay will match the iphone 13 max's battery life
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Why bother so much about the battery if both phones have a fast charger!!
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In this COVID day and age where everyone is staying home mostly- not so much. But once you start going outside more you'll need it. Especially if you're an outdoors person like me.
I'm still nostalgic for the days where i use to carry 1 or 2 extra batteries in my wallet and pop off the back to switch them out which literally took 5 seconds. There was a time during a camping trip back in the day when out in the middle of nowhere, everyone's phone died after the first day. Everyone used mine for the next few days. I got lucky when a certain gorgeous gal walked in my tent in the middle of the night to use it and decided to stay after.... aah those were the days
Sorry... friday afternoon and I just popped open my 4th beer
The iPhone 12 lineup has problems with its quick battery drain as compared to other models. The 13 has improved quite a bit, but still not on pair with the s21u
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The iPhone 12 lineup has problems with its quick battery drain as compared to other models. The 13 has improved quite a bit, but still not on pair with the s21u
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Wait, you can't be serious? The S21 ultra can't hold a candle to the 13 Pro Max and it's not even close. It might compared to the lesser iPhone 13 models but that's not a fair comparison by any sense of the imagination.
I almost went Iphone 13 pro max this gen. Almost. You know why I didn't? No fingerprint sensor. I'm not about to go back to entering my pin every time I want to open my device and masks make face recognition worthless.
Well, the pixel has a lot to live up to. I think it'll beat the iphone in pics. But battery life? I'm getting 2 hours screen on time every 10 percent battery used. Ridiculously good. I hope the pixel can get near that. Doubt it though
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Well, the pixel has a lot to live up to. I think it'll beat the iphone in pics. But battery life? I'm getting 2 hours screen on time every 10 percent battery used. Ridiculously good. I hope the pixel can get near that. Doubt it though.
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Do you have the 13 pro max?
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I'm still nostalgic for the days where i use to carry 1 or 2 extra batteries in my wallet and pop off the back to switch them out which literally took 5 seconds.
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We all missd these days
For me, there will be no difference in battery life if there is an hour or hour and a half increase
I won't be outside for 24 hours and when I go out I don't use the phone for more than 6 hours