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I see a lot of people constantly talking about battery life on here and how they are disappointed by what they are seeing from ROMs, kernels, or the OTA release.
I'm interested to see exactly what sort of expectations people have on the lifetime of their phone.
I've been fairly cognizant of my phone's power consumption and have done a lot to ensure I understand how I use it and what effect that has on its life between charges.
I understand that a first generation phone with the largest screen, the fastest processor available, the most processor intensive camera, with animated wallpapers, synchronization to various web services, flash, and borderline experimental next-generation wireless connectivity that can tether to multiple devices. To have all that on a unit marginally larger than my old Palm Pre and roughly the same battery size (1150mAh stock) is going to come with some compromises.
I tend to overclock, ROM flash, and beat the snot out of my phone on a regular basis. Therefore, I have a super gigantic Seidio battery that I absolutely adore. I found that even before that, I was able to get my battery life under control if I controlled my phone properly, so I'm not sure what the problem is.
Did some people just get bad phones? Are some people just being unrealistic with their expectations? What goals do you think people should be setting for the lifetime of their phone between charges?
Its an honest question.
I used to get almost a week out of an old motorola flip style phone (v500 something).
Everything since then has been downhill.
I'm not under the false impression that these new phones are going to last as long as the older "dumb" phones, BUT.....Id like to be able to get through the day without charging my phone. I keep my screen about 40% brightness, I'm usually in an area with good reception, I only sync my Gmail, I've calibrated my battery, etc. The only real USE my phone gets is texting. I unplug my phone at 5am and its more than half gone by noon. Not real great IMO.
I think this will provide valuable insight as to expectations for this phone. Personally I have used smartphones since I can remember and I was bread to expect a nightly charge.
It may be unacceptable to some that we have to "mod" our phones to get reasonable battery life, but I really dont have too many complaints. Out of the box, the EVO is running a 1gz processor and powering a 4.3" display. Not to mention if you're running wifi and various apps. I think some people are just expecting too much from these phones. Look at laptops. When my dell was brand new, I could get 2-3 hours of steady use before it conked out. The battery life our phones are getting, modded or stock, isnt really that bad. If you're unwilling to do some research and easy mods or buy a spare $20 OEM battery off eBay please dont complain about it.
spiicytuna said:
I think this will provide valuable insight as to expectations for this phone. Personally I have used smartphones since I can remember and I was bread to expect a nightly charge.
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A nightly charge is acceptable. It's when you have to charge 2-3 times a day from moderate usage that is a little out of hand... Understandable that with heavier usage, more frequent charges would be needed.
Wat kernel is best for saving battery life.. i use CM6 NB
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Skeptron said:
Wat kernel is best for saving battery life.. i use CM6 NB
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Off Topic.
I want to power a small village from my phone please
I want my phone to last a day. And call a typical day something like:
- l/2-1 hour talk
- 12-24 text messages
- 45 minutes - 2 hours web browsing
- 2 hours music
My iPhone 3GS would do this without a problem, my wife's iPhone 4 might do 2 days like this. The EVO just barely does this.
But.. I prefer the EVO for enough reasons I just dropped $10 for 2 extra batteries and a phone-less charger on ebay, and keep chargers in the car and at my desk, and get it plugged in for like 30 minutes somewhere during the day. I rarely use the backup batteries, but it is nice to have them.
Totally worth it for a bigger screen, 4G, more open OS.
laydros said:
I want my phone to last a day. And call a typical day something like:
- l/2-1 hour talk
- 12-24 text messages
- 45 minutes - 2 hours web browsing
- 2 hours music
My iPhone 3GS would do this without a problem, my wife's iPhone 4 might do 2 days like this. The EVO just barely does this.
But.. I prefer the EVO for enough reasons I just dropped $10 for 2 extra batteries and a phone-less charger on ebay, and keep chargers in the car and at my desk, and get it plugged in for like 30 minutes somewhere during the day. I rarely use the backup batteries, but it is nice to have them.
Totally worth it for a bigger screen, 4G, more open OS.
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This definitely sounds doable. If you aren't getting that out of your phone, I'd reccomend calling support. I'm going to assume your dedication has already lead you down your own troubleshooting path.
My standard was set with my BlackBerry: less than 5% discharge rate per hour under normal use, and I am happy.
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Hi Guys,
I actually have a HD7m but my dad quite liked the 4.3 inch screen and was now asking me to buy a similar handset. We went out and he was quite impressed with the Desire HD.
But the catch, when I researched online, I found out the battery issue on practically every thread and community.
Now my problem: He is an old man and can get cranky at times. Currently owes a Nokia C6 and is pissed with the touch screen. So is it wise to buy him Desire HD even with the bad battery life?
Or worse case scenario, I swap my HD7 for his Desire HD????
Should I go for it or should can you guys suggest something else equally fluid??
It doesn't have battery issues once calibrated. I have 1-5mA battery drain on standby, that's even when running MSN and CallerID2Voice App in the background. And I can still get hours out of it when using it. Just recharge it every-night. I doubt your dad will be a smartphone addicted guy.
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It doesn't have battery issues once calibrated. I have 1-5mA battery drain on standby, that's even when running MSN and CallerID2Voice App in the background. And I can still get hours out of it when using it. Just recharge it every-night. I doubt your dad will be a smartphone addicted guy.
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Hey,
Thanx...no he isn't a smart phone addicted guy. But the battery was so obvious an issue, I had to ask the experts here. Also, what exactly do you mean by 'calibrated'?
I mean, I have been an Android user before, but not quite sure what calibration is ?
He is a simple user with checking some mails everyday, music and some websites may be...thats about it, HTC Sense and all makes no difference to him actually...
If its battery life your after, buy a Johns Phone, you get 3 weeks between charges.
After you battery has been "run in" and calibrated you will get at least a day with light usage. Remember this is a powerful smartphone.
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Hey,
Thanx...no he isn't a smart phone addicted guy. But the battery was so obvious an issue, I had to ask the experts here. Also, what exactly do you mean by 'calibrated'?
I mean, I have been an Android user before, but not quite sure what calibration is ?
He is a simple user with checking some mails everyday, music and some websites may be...thats about it, HTC Sense and all makes no difference to him actually...
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The battery calibration concerns only those who are using a custom rom. (here's a short article with app that does it for you if you're interested). I wouldn't recommend the DHD for my own father. Whatever you do to it you'll almost always have to charge it overnight, with stock rom it could be even twice a day. This isn't a problem for smartphone enthusiasts, but for oldschool people (like my father) who think phones should last a week without charging this can be quite off-putting. The DHD is also starting to get kinda old already, so you might wanna take a look at some newer phones. A good alternative could be the Desire S, as it has almost the same features with a slightly better battery.
And to those who can't admit that the DHD has bad battery life I just have to say that the out-of-the-box battery life could and should be a lot better. To get it lasting as it should takes a bit of effort which shouldn't be required from a normal user.
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The battery calibration concerns only those who are using a custom rom. (here's a short article with app that does it for you if you're interested). I wouldn't recommend the DHD for my own father. Whatever you do to it you'll almost always have to charge it overnight, with stock rom it could be even twice a day. This isn't a problem for smartphone enthusiasts, but for oldschool people (like my father) who think phones should last a week without charging this can be quite off-putting. The DHD is also starting to get kinda old already, so you might wanna take a look at some newer phones. A good alternative could be the Desire S, as it has almost the same features with a slightly better battery.
And to those who can't admit that the DHD has bad battery life I just have to say that the out-of-the-box battery life could and should be a lot better. To get it lasting as it should takes a bit of effort which shouldn't be required from a normal user.
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Thanx so much...that was really helpful...albeit your explanation on battery life, I just wanted to add that he was in love with the 4.3 inch screen...and only HD7 is the other device with that screen size...So I think Desire S is also a good option...let me check with him...
Again, Thanx!
depend on what you consider a good battery life, some may say getting a day is good enough, but some define good as atleast 2 days.
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And to those who can't admit that the DHD has bad battery life I just have to say that the out-of-the-box battery life could and should be a lot better. To get it lasting as it should takes a bit of effort which shouldn't be required from a normal user.
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Absolutely right. I'm tired of hearing people evangelising that the DHD's battery is fine. It patently is not. Even when you severly rein back the device's features (features which HTC flaunted to get us all hooked), one ends up with 25-30% at the day's end.... And if you have a 'heavy' day of calls/browsing etc, you'll have to top up to get through the day.
But I still regard HTC as just about the best of a bad bunch...
Ok, sorry to hijack this thread a little.
The battery is fine, there are no issues with the battery. Your problem with the battery is that its small. Before you bought the phone did you not look into the battery capacity? I did, I knew it was smaller than the Desire's battery. Out-of-the-box it will act like any other lithium-ion battery that is just out-of-the-box. That "bit of effort" , what, plugging in your charger when it requires a charge.
These guides to correctly charge lithium-ion batteries are largely mumbo jumbo (charge to 100%, turn off, charge again for 250,000 hours, turn on, drain battery, rinse & repeat). Just charge it overnight, when your asleep.
Any smartphone with comparable usage will last around the same time and require a daily charge. If you want a phone that will last days between charges, don't buy a smartphone.
If you turn off all the bells & whistles, use 2G only and use it only for calls & sms', just like a regular phone. It will last days between charges.
If you want a powerful smartphone with a large screen, and lots of features, your battery is going to pay for it.
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Ok, sorry to hijack this thread a little.
Before you bought the phone did you not look into the battery capacity? I did, I knew it was smaller than the Desire's battery. Out-of-the-box it will act like any other lithium-ion battery that is just out-of-the-box. That "bit of effort" , what, plugging in your charger when it requires a charge.
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I'm not sure anybody on this forum expects days of use between charges - we're not daft. What I expect is to not have power-saving mode kick in by late afternoon when I'm nowhere near a charger, and I've not used the thing particularly heavily.
It's not right to conclude that others didn't read up on the battery before purchasing. You have no basis for drawing such conclusions.
HTC marketed the DHD on the basis that it's architecture was such that it didn't need a higher-capacity battery to do its job. Based on the fact that I'd had pretty good experiences with my previous HTCs, I saw no reason to doubt this.
In any case, just because you don't mind charging your phone part-way through a day, doesn't mean that everybody else should be happy with that.
I don't Say ! ^^
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depend on what you consider a good battery life, some may say getting a day is good enough, but some define good as atleast 2 days.
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That's why I said that there are "oldschool people" (like my father) who think the battery should last a week. I don't mind charging the phone every night, but there are people who can't cope with such a "short" battery life. That's why the battery life of the DHD should be taken under consideration when buying a new phone.
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Ok, sorry to hijack this thread a little.
The battery is fine, there are no issues with the battery. Your problem with the battery is that its small. Before you bought the phone did you not look into the battery capacity? I did, I knew it was smaller than the Desire's battery. Out-of-the-box it will act like any other lithium-ion battery that is just out-of-the-box. That "bit of effort" , what, plugging in your charger when it requires a charge.
Any smartphone with comparable usage will last around the same time and require a daily charge. If you want a phone that will last days between charges, don't buy a smartphone.
If you turn off all the bells & whistles, use 2G only and use it only for calls & sms', just like a regular phone. It will last days between charges.
If you want a powerful smartphone with a large screen, and lots of features, your battery is going to pay for it.
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I didn't mean that the battery was bad quality or anything, just that it is a bit too small for such a powerful phone. And yes I was aware of the battery capacity and I don't mind, but again there are people that require more from their phones.
And the instructions to close connections when you're not using them and turning down the screen brightness etc. are plain stupid. I bought a smartphone so that I can get my email whenever and wherever and to enjoy the big screen and not so that I can receive emails only when I choose to and so that I have to squint to see something from the screen when the brightness is set to the lowest. This is just a couple of the features I need ofcourse, but for me it's important to always receive emails instantly and not only when I can afford to spend some battery on internet connection.
When I was still running stock rom I could barely get through a day at work (8 hours). I had mobile network on the whole time and the screen brightness set at about 50% (which I think should be used at 100% all the time to really enjoy the screen) I talked for about half an hour during the days, sent 10 texts and listened to music/played/surfed on the internet for about 3 hours in all. When I got home I had to charge it. This ofcourse is everything one could need, but there are smartphones with better battery life.
Now of ofcourse when I have a custom rom that's tweaked and everything there's no problem with battery life, but that shouldn't be necessary to do and it's quite a lot to ask just so you can have a decent battery life. That's why I was talking about out-of-the-box battery life.
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That's why I said that there are "oldschool people" (like my father) who think the battery should last a week. I don't mind charging the phone every night, but there are people who can't cope with such a "short" battery life. That's why the battery life of the DHD should be taken under consideration when buying a new phone.
I didn't mean that the battery was bad quality or anything, just that it is a bit too small for such a powerful phone. And yes I was aware of the battery capacity and I don't mind, but again there are people that require more from their phones.
And the instructions to close connections when you're not using them and turning down the screen brightness etc. are plain stupid. I bought a smartphone so that I can get my email whenever and wherever and to enjoy the big screen and not so that I can receive emails only when I choose to and so that I have to squint to see something from the screen when the brightness is set to the lowest. This is just a couple of the features I need ofcourse, but for me it's important to always receive emails instantly and not only when I can afford to spend some battery on internet connection.
When I was still running stock rom I could barely get through a day at work (8 hours). I had mobile network on the whole time and the screen brightness set at about 50% (which I think should be used at 100% all the time to really enjoy the screen) I talked for about half an hour during the days, sent 10 texts and listened to music/played/surfed on the internet for about 3 hours in all. When I got home I had to charge it. This ofcourse is everything one could need, but there are smartphones with better battery life.
Now of ofcourse when I have a custom rom that's tweaked and everything there's no problem with battery life, but that shouldn't be necessary to do and it's quite a lot to ask just so you can have a decent battery life. That's why I was talking about out-of-the-box battery life.
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If you want to receive emails and text, I find that GSM is fine for that. If you want to go internet browsing, just switch on to 3G.
Smartphones these days have basically a different definition of battery life to the old nokia symbian and similar phones of old. Those could go up to a week. Smartphones on the other hand are considered awesome if they can last 3.
I do have to say ultimately I think HTC sold the battery life a bit short on the DHD. 1230mah I think is really just making way for all the other top-of-the-line features that it had when it came out.
HTC have released a great number of variants of this phone now, all with better iterations of design and also with bigger batteries because of this.
1400-1500mah (or even above) I think is really what you need with a 4.3" display phone. 1230 would be far more acceptable for a <4" display. Although it can be made quite livable for a day or two with an excellent custom rom, I don't really think it's enough for a basic consumer using the standard rom. That and the speaker/audio out are the two biggest pitfalls of the DHD imo.
Sensation is now HTC's newest 4.3" phone which has a good 1500mah battery. I hope Sense 3.0 doesn't wear it down too fast!
Ultimate thoughts: Although it's a great phone, I think it's a power user's phone more than anything. You will definitely only get the best out of it by customising to it's best potential, which is also when you get acceptable battery life. If you don't, it really does seem a waste.
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When I was still running stock rom I could barely get through a day at work (8 hours). I had mobile network on the whole time and the screen brightness set at about 50% (which I think should be used at 100% all the time to really enjoy the screen) I talked for about half an hour during the days, sent 10 texts and listened to music/played/surfed on the internet for about 3 hours in all. When I got home I had to charge it. This ofcourse is everything one could need, but there are smartphones with better battery life.
Now of ofcourse when I have a custom rom that's tweaked and everything there's no problem with battery life
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I had the same sort of expectancy out of the battery using it moderately during a day at work out of the box. However with custom ROM installed I have found the battery to last easily the whole day with the same usage and probably have approx 40 - 50% left after 15hrs on battery.
just my 2c
andyharney said:
Ok, sorry to hijack this thread a little.
The battery is fine, there are no issues with the battery. Your problem with the battery is that its small. Before you bought the phone did you not look into the battery capacity? I did, I knew it was smaller than the Desire's battery. Out-of-the-box it will act like any other lithium-ion battery that is just out-of-the-box. That "bit of effort" , what, plugging in your charger when it requires a charge.
These guides to correctly charge lithium-ion batteries are largely mumbo jumbo (charge to 100%, turn off, charge again for 250,000 hours, turn on, drain battery, rinse & repeat). Just charge it overnight, when your asleep.
Any smartphone with comparable usage will last around the same time and require a daily charge. If you want a phone that will last days between charges, don't buy a smartphone.
If you turn off all the bells & whistles, use 2G only and use it only for calls & sms', just like a regular phone. It will last days between charges.
If you want a powerful smartphone with a large screen, and lots of features, your battery is going to pay for it.
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I am extremely sorry but I disagree with u completely. You are talking as if you buy an expensive car but dont drive it too much as it eats a lot of fuel. If you want to just drive around, why dont you just get yourself a mopet. The point is, i have bought an expensive car TO DRIVE it around. If I buy a smartphone and not use its SMART features, why am I buying it for??? If I practically shut all the reasons why I bought this phone, WHY the hell am I buying it??
There is an old saying that comes to mind that it takes guts to stay in the minority. If the battery is flawed, ACCEPT it.
Anyways, I have got my answer. Thanx for your reply nonetheless.
As everyone says depends on usage.
For one thing i went from 80mA down to 8mA just by updating the radio which came stock.
Now with a different rom and kernel I get -1mA on standby, juicedefender is also a nice app. The battery life depends on your setup though, I easily get 2 days of moderate use/music/games/calls etc.
jpinky said:
As everyone says depends on usage.
For one thing i went from 80mA down to 8mA just by updating the radio which came stock.
Now with a different rom and kernel I get -1mA on standby, juicedefender is also a nice app. The battery life depends on your setup though, I easily get 2 days of moderate use/music/games/calls etc.
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Hey thanx man...But was just wondering, with very moderate usage, will it still be over in no time?
Also, the other thing worrying me is the memory card issue...I cant afford to lose one card after another once I buy an expensive phone, u know what I mean...
The battery life is acceptable with moderate use on stock rom, if you're a power user you will have to stay close to a charger
There's no memory card issue from the DHD's part, it's just the crappy "freebie" sdcard (samsung?) which comes with the phone that stops working. The people who are complaining that the DHD breaks sdcards are those who buy cheap, bad quality sdcards or get a warranty replacement for the original one, which will be just as bad. The solution to this is to buy a better quality microsd card (costs about 15€) if the original stops working. Mine's still working great though.
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The battery life is acceptable with moderate use on stock rom, if you're a power user you will have to stay close to a charger
There's no memory card issue from the DHD's part, it's just the crappy "freebie" sdcard (samsung?) which comes with the phone that stops working. The people who are complaining that the DHD breaks sdcards are those who buy cheap, bad quality sdcards or get a warranty replacement for the original one, which will be just as bad. The solution to this is to buy a better quality microsd card (costs about 15€) if the original stops working. Mine's still working great though.
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After receiving a replacement 'new' phone, and having problems with my SD Card from the very second it switched on, I complained to HTC about the issue and the man on the end of the phone admitted around 500,000 phones that had been dispatched has been shipped with KNOWN issues & SD Card incapabilities. If you went out today and bought a brand spanking new card, in theory the phone WOULD NOT and the SD Card WOULD NOT fail.
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I'm not sure anybody on this forum expects days of use between charges - we're not daft. What I expect is to not have power-saving mode kick in by late afternoon when I'm nowhere near a charger, and I've not used the thing particularly heavily.
It's not right to conclude that others didn't read up on the battery before purchasing. You have no basis for drawing such conclusions.
HTC marketed the DHD on the basis that it's architecture was such that it didn't need a higher-capacity battery to do its job. Based on the fact that I'd had pretty good experiences with my previous HTCs, I saw no reason to doubt this.
In any case, just because you don't mind charging your phone part-way through a day, doesn't mean that everybody else should be happy with that.
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I don't mean to hijack you here mate, but you assume/claim that:
'HTC marketed the DHD on the basis that it's architecture was such that it didn't need a higher-capacity battery to do its job.'
Well I take it that you assume this on the basis that Leprechauns are real and are roaming New York city as we speak? If HTC were doing any market research at all, they would realize that even devices with smaller screens have a bigger battery than the one they have put into the DhD, including the Desire Z & Desire's batteries?
I remember when I was looking at reviews for the original Desire, as I fancied one, the main complaints were the battery life, and the fact people only got a day's charge on it. So I thought fair do's, big screen, big price to pay? If HTC had done any research, they would have realized that people wanted better battery life, a better quality screen, better sound quality?
You want to know what the real reason is behind HTC putting a small battery inside the Device? Well it's the fact that the entire thing was rushed, and I mean rushed? There's evidence of this in the build quality, the software, the placing of different things within the phone and also the bad batch issues HTC experienced.
The HD was leaked in September/October, it was released by November, this is not normal for any device that becomes 'leaked'. HTC used a bad screen, imported most of the software from the original Desire, obviously making edits to make it Sense 2.0, but you can clearly see they didn't change everything? If you set the Android Pattern Lock Screen, you can see that it doesn't fill the whole screen, the IME is the standard HTC one with some arrows slapped in at the bottom? They didn't even change the size of the keyboard?, this is more evident if you use the IME in landscape mode, its hard.
What sort of company places an Antenna in the Battery Cover? It's true, remove your Battery Cover and you'll loose all signal? Pretty risky move for HTC, seeing as the Battery Cover is VERY easy to 'accidently' break, and frankly your screwed then right? It's like they designed the phone, forgot the Antenna, then quickly though 'Where the f*** is this going?' and decided to place it there? In my opinion, and a few others, they did this with the battery, they made the device too thin, and in reality they just couldn't fit everything in. The Desire S which is slightly thicker, packs a brilliant battery. Problem solved.
The build quality of the phone, is not one of a £500 price tag. Some parts of the phone squeak whereas others just do not feel adequate to the pricing of the device. There again we live in a world where no matter how much you pay, something always seems to be wrong.
Sorry if I have offended any HTC lovers, all attacks on my and opinions against me are welcome, don't get me wrong, I love my phone and I can cope with charging the battery every night. Chao.
I haven't been able to find any threads that already cover this. There are several reviews, users' opinions etc on how long the battery in a particular smartphone lasts, but it's always struck me as odd that this information isn't easy to compare - it could lead to name-and-shame for particularly bad phones or encouraging results for those manufacturers who actually cared & made improvements.
I've found a few people who had the same idea, and one of them (being a much more web-capable person than me) actually made a website for this purpose. I really don't want this to sound like advertising, because the purpose isn't to make anyone any money, but simply to centralise this kind of information and have some (arguably) more meaningful stats driven by and for the benefit of everyone who wants to know.
If you think this could work & be a good idea, please take a look at the site - http://www.wewantbatterylife.com/ . If you think it's a rubbish idea and/or have objections, flame away.
the li-ion batteries normaly have longer life than the old phones...so it will last enough time..u'll probably replace your phone before the battery dies Probably u can ruin it with overclocking your device or something..but draining is something else
ps: im trollling again :O
Hehe, I meant battery life as in "how long does your battery last from a full charge until it runs out?", but yes, mini-troll It's all good..
Hi,
I have another question about batterie life. I don't know if it has been already treated somewhere else in the forum.
I will receive the 2000mha batterie today. What is the best way to calibrate it?
Fully discharge it then full charge or full charge before first use?
Thanks for you help!
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my battery in nexus s long about 4 houres in full use , that is problem ?
what can i do ?
Nice site, and it will only grow more useful the more people input their info. Although looking at the results, some of those 30+ hour claims seem outlandish.
my stock galaxy note battery takes me 6 hours to lose 50%. hope it could last longer.
On my Galaxy S running ICS 4.0.4 Dark Knight 2.2, my battery lose about 25% by day. But with light use (1 or 2 calls, some SMS, GMail sync, ...)
really miss the days with my old nokia which i only needed to charge every two or three days haha.....
happyuser said:
really miss the days with my old nokia which i only needed to charge every two or three days haha.....
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Really miss that 1 inch display to. LOL.
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my phone keep charged almost 1 day
I don't know if it happen for someone else but i noticed a sort of "bug" with my HTC HD7. (Bought in December 2010)
If i reboot my phone when the charge is at X%, after the reboot, the charge level will be ~10% less than X ... and the phone will stay a very very long time at this percentage.
(For exemple, if after a reboot, i'm at 75%, the battery could stay at this level for all the day)
So as I imagine, it decalibrates the battery level and to make a new time the calibration i have to let my phone fully discharge and fully recharge to solve this bug.
Strange ...
(Sorry for my english guys, I hope i can be understand)
It seems that smartphones need more juice daily. However if you disconnect the mobile packet data whenever you are in range of WLAN you might get 2 days with one charge.
I am actually quite amazed how well my Samsung Galaxy S1 original battery has lasted almost 2 years. When I first started this smartphone journey with my S1 I thought that it will not last one year. I am glad that I was proven wrong.
Batteries
Definetely Smartphones need better batteries, especialy after we got used on some phones to last even 4 days like I had previously Nokia C7, and after that i bought Galaxy S2, and its battery lasts only 1 day, now thats really sad
my sgs+ with a custom rom (gigabread+) is alive up to 24 h.
My I9001 is at 30% at the end of the day (connected to wifi all the time)
battery life xperia s
my xperia s last 3 days with making some calls abou ta half an hour surfing on 3g a day and sometimes a game but when i use it a lot is lasts about one day and a half
HTC HD2 on nand android does ~4-6mah an hour on standbay, depending on torture i give it, it lasts a day to a day and half
My Samsung Note (stock 4.0.3), WiFi on all day, and average use (business mail, whats-app, games, some browsing)
after 15 hours the battery is still 40%~50%
i use SetCPU, it throttles up the CPU if its needed, at idle it runs at 200 MHz instead of 1.4 GHz
My SGS2 can last almost 2 days without using data. Its pretty good on battery
"There will be no specific updates coming for the HTC One X to improve battery"
...say HTC.
It can all be found here at techradar.phones
Well what do you guys think? Are you satisfied by the battery considering the HOX's demanding setup? Mine lasts around ten hours with moderate to heavy use. Which is similar to my last phone, the SGS i9000. I found this quite acceptable.
HTC are a very reputable company, and often listen to their consumers (hence HTCdev). Is this latest move a shy away from that?
Would be great to hear everyones thoughts.
then...time to wait for mugen
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More than happy with mine. 2 days on battery with average use. 3 hours screen time during that time, with an hour using sat nav.
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Im happy with mine 8.5 hours mod use data off wen not in use my gs2 lasts 10 galaxy nexus lasts 9 so it aint really that bad plus the screens awesome
Mod Or Die
I'm still waiting to see what mine will manage, before the update I had 11 hours. Come off charge this morning and this is what's left...
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The screen is such a power hog!
Eddzz!! said:
The screen is such a power hog!
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It is considering my brightness is on the lowest, and all network is off minus WiFi.
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I'm not having an high end smartphone to constantly be in battery problems.
I consider the battery usage as a real annoying problem with no option to buy extra batteries.
Who buys a smartphone to use as less as possible???
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Happy here with battery life of One X, battery is even better than it was in SGS2. For me at least. Around ~36h battery time while SGS2 ~30 hours when I was using it.
Gawwd why do people expect something with the resolution of a tv, and the same amount of cores of a high end pc, to not take much battery? I think its a bloody miracle these smartphones last longer than 5 minutes! As I've said before, you wouldn't expect a supercar to be economical?
Plus, the battery is an improvement to my dhd , so that is another miracle, considering the extra horsepower behind the one x
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Gawwd why do people expect something with the resolution of a tv, and the same amount of cores of a high end pc, to not take much battery? I think its a bloody miracle these smartphones last longer than 5 minutes! As I've said before, you wouldn't expect a supercar to be economical?
Plus, the battery is an improvement to my dhd , so that is another miracle, considering the extra horsepower behind the one x
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Where's the like button? I really do wonder what people expect. Get a Motorola if you want the battery to last you for a week.
More than happy with the battery life of the handset. Lasts me from when I leave home in the morning till when I get home at night and then some. Beats having to charge my phone during the day like on my DHD.
People need to get used to charging their phone every night, really don't understand people's issues with that. What's the big deal?
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I know!!! My DHD is on the charger every night! It doesn't bother me
Why would they? It's fine.
To all the "glass half empty" whining types. You guys do know these things charge from USBs right. I got a great solution; plug it in when its running low.
Besides, the battery life is staggeringly good if you think about it. Mine lasts 2 days for simple calling and texting here and there and a whole day for quite heavy usage, browsing, YouTube, calls and so on. 18hours total, 4-4.5 hours screen on, 40/50mb data and 1.5 hours of calls yesterday, put it away at 1%, still not dead 2 hours of standby later.
Mine's OK, not great. I really didn't expect it to be. It'll be interesting to see how the S4 One XL does now that it's shipping. If it's about the same (with LTE off) than it's not a Teg3 issue. If it's dramatically better than we know it's not the display alone causing battery challenges.
I think that no update coming anytime soon is acceptable but no update AT ALL?
Im sorry but f*** that! Why can't they focus abit on the battery, some simple things would be to have less CRAP and bloatware, maybe if they could release 2 versions 1. simplified with the sense camera ONLY and rest ICS and the other with the full sense package that is really no necessary.
The most important thing to remember is that this a a PHONE to make calls and for that it works nicely and the battery lasts if you keep the screen off most of the time, but for a phone like this that was made to do more things I think you need to at the very least have a battery or a software symbiosis that can last for 8,9 hours of screen time.
Its Tegra 3 for f*** sake! With the super-dupe-triple-super-important-kill core2dou like nothing-quad-core-and a dedicated 5 companion core THAT IS SUPPOSE TO DELIVER KILLER BATTERY LIFE.
What is the problem?
I think there is simply too much Sense on the phone, too many uneceassy widgets and other crap that run in the background (oh you can flash cusom rom bla bla, you can freeze services with Titanium backup bla bla, but what if I want to use a stock rom?) bull**** I say, wih such and advanced CPU and memory and so on I do not see why you cannot have better battery life.
My Samsung Galaxy S2 can work for up to 3 days (ok it has a AMOLED ok ok but still, touchwhiz seems to not over run ICS) On stock ICS. Why? Because they have less 'painted over ICS functions that almost makes it run 2 OS's at the same time so maybe its no wonder the battery gets chewed up by all the sense applications.
This just my opinion from observing the phone and all the fanzy sense stuff after a week.
I believe this phone could be better in terms of software (without a doubt).
One thing they have to adress is the camera, why cant the image files be bigger than 2.9 megapixels? This is so stupid considering it has an 8 mpx camera... Also the full HD and 720p records in the latest firmware 1.28xx at approximately 24 fps and it should be 29 or 30. My Asus Prime records at a steady 30 fps at 1080p and 720p and its running Tegra 3 too.
They MUST at some point focus on battery life because if you dont have the juice to run all those fanzy apps and UI then why are they there in the first place?
I LOVE the weather graphics but I could live without it too (If I absolutely HAVE to....) the only thing necessary is the camera sense app because its the only thing that makes the phone unique and very fun and nice (but again whats the point without proper battery life?)
I hope HTC continues to work on making this one of the best first quad-core phone.
Another thing I noticed with SetCpu is that the phone is very high frequencies very frequently, if you install it and use the phone for a day you will see the graph scale, it uses 1.4 abut 40% of the time, but why? I never played games during this period or anything.
Im gonna keep my 1X because I love it and I believe in it and in the HTCdevs if they cant just be more positive perhaps
Cheers!
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Why would they? It's fine.
To all the "glass half empty" whining types. You guys do know these things charge from USBs right. I got a great solution; plug it in when its running low.
Besides, the battery life is staggeringly good if you think about it. Mine lasts 2 days for simple calling and texting here and there and a whole day for quite heavy usage, browsing, YouTube, calls and so on. 18hours total, 4-4.5 hours screen on, 40/50mb data and 1.5 hours of calls yesterday, put it away at 1%, still not dead 2 hours of standby later.
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4-4.5 hrs screen on isn't typical usage that the majority are getting though. Closer to 3 hrs.
It's easier to be quick to judge others when your own device defies the norm for the better.
If you were struggling to get 2.5 hrs , I doubt you'd be as chirpy about it all.
Two words that will help battery life without HTC - "custom kernels"
If you need to see the difference they make just ask in one of faux's threads, e.g. in the Sensation dev forum.
did the update improve the batterie life and if so , does the HOX still run as fast or did things low down ?
Pretty much echo the below , i have had an sgs2 and have an xperia s and this phone with its companion core is at least 33% worse on battery than both of these, and the processor is supposed to be more efficient . The display excuse won't wash much as the xperia s display is at least as bright/power hungry if not more .
I would love to see the exchange / return rates on this handset due to it not living up to its hype , let alone the fault rates.
And i am not whining, i upgraded to one, i like it , i will keep it and maybe one day learn to root it and replace the rom, but lets not kid ourselves its just not a finished polished product in terms of software !
thats my 2p, thanks for reading
james
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I think that no update coming anytime soon is acceptable but no update AT ALL?
Im sorry but f*** that! Why can't they focus abit on the battery, some simple things would be to have less CRAP and bloatware, maybe if they could release 2 versions 1. simplified with the sense camera ONLY and rest ICS and the other with the full sense package that is really no necessary.
The most important thing to remember is that this a a PHONE to make calls and for that it works nicely and the battery lasts if you keep the screen off most of the time, but for a phone like this that was made to do more things I think you need to at the very least have a battery or a software symbiosis that can last for 8,9 hours of screen time.
Its Tegrra 3 for f*** sake! With the super-dupe-triple-super-important-kill core2dou like nothing-quad-core-and a dedicated 5 companion core THAT IS SUPPOSE TO DELIVER KILLER BATTERY LIFE.
What is the problem?
I think there is simply too much Sense on the phone, too many uneceassy widgets and other crap that run in the background (oh you can flash cusom rom bla bla, you can freeze services with Titanium backup bla bla, but what if I want to use a stock rom?) bull**** I say, wih such and advanced CPU and memory and so on I do not see why you cannot have better battery life.
My Samsung Galaxy S2 can work for up to 3 days (ok it has a AMOLED ok ok but still, touchwhiz seems to not over run ICS) On stock ICS. Why? Because they have less 'painted over ICS functions that almost makes it run 2 OS's at the same time so maybe its no wonder the battery gets chewed up by all the sense applications.
This just my opinion from observing the phone and all the fanzy sense stuff after a week.
I believe this phone could be better in terms of software (without a doubt).
They MUST at some point focus on battery life because if you dont have the juice to run all those fanzy apps and UI then why are they there in the first place?
I hope HTC continues to work on making this one of the best and first quad-core phones.
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Garbage battery life...I mean just pathetic. Yet it's so beautiful... How did this go wrong?
That stuff aside. Is the watch worth getting? (Serious)
I dunno man, it sounds to me like the battery, although not amazing, is not as bad as initially reported.
As with any tech device, the first couple charges are not at its peak performance.
As for me, the first one I bought sold on ebay so I'm gonna get another to keep, for free!
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I dunno man, it sounds to me like the battery, although not amazing, is not as bad as initially reported.
As with any tech device, the first couple charges are not at its peak performance.
As for me, the first one I bought sold on ebay so I'm gonna get another to keep, for free!
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Free?
I mean... How can they claim 24 hours of battery? the best I am seeing is like 9.
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Free?
I mean... How can they claim 24 hours of battery? the best I am seeing is like 9.
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I sold the first one I got for 500 so its essentially free to me if i buy another one.
Battery has lasted me since 5am this morning, it is now 5:30 pm here, and I still have 26%. Good enough for me. I have loved every second of it, and highly recommend it.
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Battery has lasted me since 5am this morning, it is now 5:30 pm here, and I still have 26%. Good enough for me. I have loved every second of it, and highly recommend it.
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Are you a lite or heavy user?
I have only had it for 24 hours total. I have screen off. Off charger since 615AM today and its now 240PM. Moderate use, playing with faces, reading and sending about 20msgs total...reading news on it....and its at 44%. I am going to give it a full week before I make up my mind on it. If it can go a full day, then I am happy with it. I knew going in it wasnt going to be 2+ days of usage. Its not a Pebble. It has an AMAZING screen.
PS. Even with the screen off, I have had 10+ people ask me what watch that is. It is a beautiful watch. And some of the people asking having 10k+ watches that they are wearing and said it looked better than theirs. Imagine once some better faces come out for it.
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Are you a lite or heavy user?
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Probably somewhere between. I'm a huge clock watcher, so I check frequently. And there was a fair bit of showing off today too
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I shall get one...BUT IF THY'S BATTERY SUCKETH...It shall goeth back.
Battery sucks if you drive or cause the acelerometer to pop constantly. Take your watch off before you drive until they have a car mode. Driving 3 hours is the only way I killed it within 16 hours.
I'm asking myself this question too, and I'm tending towards "No." Motorola need to have a very quick rethink, and rework this thing with a CPU that is on a newer process, and preferably a higher charge-density on the battery pack too.
Shoving a five-year-old, inefficient 45nm processor from 2009 (http://newscenter.ti.com/index.php?s=32851&item=125993) into a 2014-15 season smartwatch was a terrible, terrible idea. We should be on a 22nm or perhaps even a 14nm process by now. 45nm is a 2007 process, and it's hopelessly inefficient compared to today's tech.
There's a reason we didn't have smartwatches in 2007-2009, and making one in 2014 with technology from then is insanity.
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I'm asking myself this question too, and I'm tending towards "No." Motorola need to have a very quick rethink, and rework this thing with a CPU that is on a newer process, and preferably a higher charge-density on the battery pack too.
Shoving a five-year-old, inefficient 45nm processor from 2009 (http://newscenter.ti.com/index.php?s=32851&item=125993) into a 2014-15 season smartwatch was a terrible, terrible idea. We should be on a 22nm or perhaps even a 14nm process by now. 45nm is a 2007 process, and it's hopelessly inefficient compared to today's tech.
There's a reason we didn't have smartwatches in 2007-2009, and making one in 2014 with technology from then is insanity.
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The SoC is only one component in what is a cohesive design. Is it a weak spot? Sure. Is it a deal breaker? Maybe. I'll have to wait til mine gets here to give it a good testing and see how it works for my lifestyle. But from what the majority of people are saying, the way I will likely use it, I'll get plenty of battery life and a quality, smooth user experience even with the old SoC.
So, seems to me, if my needs are met as a consumer it doesn't matter much what timestamp is on the chip.
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The SoC is only one component in what is a cohesive design. Is it a weak spot? Sure. Is it a deal breaker? Maybe. I'll have to wait til mine gets here to give it a good testing and see how it works for my lifestyle. But from what the majority of people are saying, the way I will likely use it, I'll get plenty of battery life and a quality, smooth user experience even with the old SoC.
So, seems to me, if my needs are met as a consumer it doesn't matter much what timestamp is on the chip.
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Battery life from most user reports and early reviews is pretty dismal, and that's when the watch is brand new. Unless you plan on replacing it every 12 months, you need to be thinking about battery life not now, but once the battery has degraded for 18 months or two years -- by which time you're going to be needing to recharge in the middle of the day.
For a $100-150 product, this would be great. For $250 to $300 depending on strap, it's totally unacceptable.
Yeah I can't believe they went with that old POS processor....the videos I've seen of the watch lagging just make me cringe, it could have been so much better! Was it really that hard to put a Snapdragon 400 in there? And I was really hoping for a higher PPI screen, or at least AMOLED.
However, I still will be getting one. I know it will die quicker and lag more than a LG G Watch, but damnit at least it'll look good while doing it.
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This. 1000x this.
I would rather have my 360 and charge it daily than have a brick on my wrist that lasts a few days.
I loved my Pebble, but it was not one bit attractive. Its an easy trade off to make. I charge my phone daily, I charge my laptop daily, what's the problem with charging a watch daily?
I'm kinda disappointed with the SoC they have chosen and the not as good battery life.
But I'll get one anyway cause it just looks really sexy.
I have no problems with battery life. 14 hours off the charger yesterday evening, I was at 50%. Better than my phone battery. Ambient mode off, moderate use.
I've chuckled at a few comments in this thread... Unacceptable this, unforgivable that, this is the first android watch worth buying so far. Its the first that actually looks like a ... Oh dare I say watch and something a normal non-ubernerd would wear. Its like the ecogeeks that love how all the prius' look. The industry finally got to the point you could drive a hybrid without looking like you're actually out hugging trees. I have the watch there is no unbelievable epic lagging and even if there was some lag... Its a watch. Not a quad core 3 gb ram uber phone but a watch. Sure they could have gone with a better chip but battery life is typical for an android watch for the most part. It isn't some great travesty and moto cover up a lot of cost likely went into the design creation and marketing of this watch and as such some corners had to be shaved. If they had put in a better chip and if they could have fit a bigger battery in you'd have a larger watch ... Wait for the omgs flying at that point or a $100 price difference that again y'all would be whining about. I love it could it be better yes but that's where version 2 and 3 come in. What phone do you own for 2+ years.... None you upgrade why would a first edition smartwatch be ANY different?
^ I echo a lot of this. The majority of people including myself could not even conceive what goes into developing a product like this. Since when did everyone become so spoiled lol. There's a computer on your wrist! It's an amazing feat! If you want the perfect device then wait a few years, in the meantime I'm gonna enjoy an incredible piece of tech
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^ I echo a lot of this. The majority of people including myself could not even conceive what goes into developing a product like this. Since when did everyone become so spoiled lol. There's a computer on your wrist! It's an amazing feat! If you want the perfect device then wait a few years, in the meantime I'm gonna enjoy an incredible piece of tech
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Because it is a waste of materials and very obvious spoon feeding of tech. Using an old processor? Why? Just recycle them an use a current one.
This has nothing to be with being spoiled, this has to do with principle. Why on earth make a nice new product with old under powered tech? It is a waste of a product.