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In the story he states that the batter would last four hours? any truth to this? he also explained that there is lag in the sense?
http://techcrunch.com/2010/05/29/htc-evo-4g/
Maybe 4 hours of non-stop web browsing with the brightness all the way up while on 4G. Also, I've never had any lag with Sense.
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The battery is is very poor. I'm not exactly sure why that's the case since the EVO doesn't report the screen as a large draw. For example, I unplug my EVO, connect my Bluetooth headset and listen to a podcast for 10 minutes. That drains the battery to 92% from a full charge.
You will most likely have to carry a spare battery to get through the day, with light usage.
I'm hoping its an optimization issue and they can fix the battery issue with an update. Fingers crossed.
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hmm, alright i mean this is big for a person who is out 24-7. (arnt we all) i wonder if it has to do with anything similar to what the hero had when it was released.
My battery life is not perfect. But people always have this problem. I was a G1 owner and everyone complained about the battery life when it first came out. And then slowly after a mont or two everybody stopped...why? Because the battery life got better with time. From 5 hours or so to 9 or 10 hours.
Then I went to an HD2. The first week I was so scared I had made a huge mistake because the battery would last about 4 or 5 hours. After I did as suggested and let the battery completely burn out and then completely recharge for about three cycles, the HD2 had the best battery I had ever seen. i could use it for 2 days and have 60% left.
Now I have an Evo. And the first stay (with constant use) it died after about 4.5 hours. But I am going through the process of draining and then FULL recharge of 6-8 hours and I'm sure it will be fine.
People think they plug the phone in an hour or two and it says 100% and they have charged it. My opinion is that it takes the battery a while to know what 100% and 0% are on any given battery. After it cycles through a few times it will actually have a true accounting of the battery life, power consumption.
That is all my opinion and experience. I am hoping the EVO has a similar battery life to the HD2. That would be perfect for me.
EDIT: And as for lag....the guy is obviously on crack and just saying stuff to say stuff. I doubt he even has an EVO. He's reading about Sense Lag on the HD2 which there was some) and passing that information on. Anyone who actually HAS an evo have any lag? I think not.
And if he thinks an iPhone 3GS in ANY way blows the EVO out of the water...he is obviously lying. I mean based on feature set alone. There is no way the iphone can browse as fast (4G...hello), operate as fast (gee isn't that processor almost twice as fast), take better pictures? No. Have a front facing cam? No. Oh yeah...that screen size on the iPhone sure is better than the EVO. WTF?
Some people's kids.
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My battery life is not perfect. But people always have this problem. I was a G1 owner and everyone complained about the battery life when it first came out. And then slowly after a mont or two everybody stopped...why? Because the battery life got better with time. From 5 hours or so to 9 or 10 hours.
Then I went to an HD2. The first week I was so scared I had made a huge mistake because the battery would last about 4 or 5 hours. After I did as suggested and let the battery completely burn out and then completely recharge for about three cycles, the HD2 had the best battery I had ever seen. i could use it for 2 days and have 60% left.
Now I have an Evo. And the first stay (with constant use) it died after about 4.5 hours. But I am going through the process of draining and then FULL recharge of 6-8 hours and I'm sure it will be fine.
People think they plug the phone in an hour or two and it says 100% and they have charged it. My opinion is that it takes the battery a while to know what 100% and 0% are on any given battery. After it cycles through a few times it will actually have a true accounting of the battery life, power consumption.
That is all my opinion and experience. I am hoping the EVO has a similar battery life to the HD2. That would be perfect for me.
EDIT: And as for lag....the guy is obviously on crack and just saying stuff to say stuff. I doubt he even has an EVO. He's reading about Sense Lag on the HD2 which there was some) and passing that information on. Anyone who actually HAS an evo have any lag? I think not.
And if he thinks an iPhone 3GS in ANY way blows the EVO out of the water...he is obviously lying. I mean based on feature set alone. There is no way the iphone can browse as fast (4G...hello), operate as fast (gee isn't that processor almost twice as fast), take better pictures? No. Have a front facing cam? No. Oh yeah...that screen size on the iPhone sure is better than the EVO. WTF?
Some people's kids.
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I understand what you are saying. That was the only reason i am worried about buying an EVO. This author must have had all the applications syncing every 15 minutes. I have an apple itouch not sure how close the phone and this thing is but I like it. It is smooth and quick. (buts its not a phone). When it comes to android... Its about the experience that comes with it.
But this guy is positively being paid off haha
The battery is is very poor. I'm not exactly sure why that's the case since the EVO doesn't report the screen as a large draw. For example, I unplug my EVO, connect my Bluetooth headset and listen to a podcast for 10 minutes. That drains the battery to 92% from a full charge.
You will most likely have to carry a spare battery to get through the day, with light usage.
I'm hoping its an optimization issue and they can fix the battery issue with an update. Fingers crossed.
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With light usage I had 36% remaining after 14 hours the other day. I think you just need to give the battery time to get adjusted. However, I have noticed that it seems to drain faster from 100-80% than it does from 80-50%.
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With light usage I had 36% remaining after 14 hours the other day. I think you just need to give the battery time to get adjusted. However, I have noticed that it seems to drain faster from 100-80% than it does from 80-50%.
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Well I actually just recently noticed the same about my iPhone 3G. The first 10-15% go really fast.
My evo seems to do pretty good with the battery I can go the whole day without needing a charge but I do charge it when I get home. When I'm using it for games all day it drains pretty quick but at those time I plug it in... I don't know what they expect when your rocking a 1ghz processor, a 4.3 inch screen, and about every type of network connection you can fit in a phone... as far as lag goes on this phone I notice very little mainly when I'm installing like 3 or 4 apps at once... compared to my hero this thing is a rocket! And once Android 2.2 is put on here this thing will be smoking.
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My Evo lasts for 8-9 hours. That's 70% idle with screen off. Cell Standby at 40+% is killing my battery.
My motorola droid in the same time still has over 50% charge. There's no question that the Evo is a battery drainer for whatever reason.
hate to say it, but once a fan boy always a fan boy. I used to have a win-mo device (touch pro) and i like it, then i moved up (should i say downgraded) to the instinct- worst decision ever. than i used the android platform on my hero. I'd have to say its leaps and bounds easier than win-mo.. My brother has an iPhone which i always play with when he comes over, and i think its a really easy interface to play with.. thats all. The speeds at which apps were open weren't any better than my hero. I also opened up maps on his phone and mine, and my location was dead on with the hero, the iPhone was 100meters. LOL.
But everyone needs to try other stuff out and make there own decisions, dont let someone who is obviously a fan boy tell you whats good and bad.
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The battery is is very poor. I'm not exactly sure why that's the case since the EVO doesn't report the screen as a large draw. For example, I unplug my EVO, connect my Bluetooth headset and listen to a podcast for 10 minutes. That drains the battery to 92% from a full charge.
You will most likely have to carry a spare battery to get through the day, with light usage.
I'm hoping its an optimization issue and they can fix the battery issue with an update. Fingers crossed.
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thats ur prob ur using bluetooth it will use more battery and then ur playing the podcast at the same time any phone u do that on u will use more battery
the battery technology is a few years old. the cpu is 1ghz.. the phone is sniffing 3g/4g/wifi/bt plus the shiny screen and backlight all use power. the battery technology being used in this state of the art phone is not advancing as fast as the phones are...
the reason the top ~10% of the charge goes so quickly is due to the you taking the phone off charge.. the cells in Li-ION batteries are not created equal. some cells will get a stronger/longer charge than other cells. once you take the battery off charge, the cells that are stronger in charge than the others will feed that extra charge to those other cells, so your battery charge will fall down to around 90 or so pretty quickly out the gate.. from there the cells are all stable and equally charged and stay at a constant discharge rate for about ~87% to about ~55%.
once the charge falls below 55% the cells really start to lose their charge and the battery curve drops drastically.
when you "top off" the phone for , say, 30 minutes or so and you take it off charge and you see 100%. do understand that one or two cells have a fuller (my word) charge than others.. once the cells equalize, then you will see the tru charge (which will be much much less than 100%)...
I'll post my findings here although probably no one will believe me. I'm not a fanboi since i've phones on three carriers.
My EVO will lose 2% per hour sitting idle which is fantastic. My HD2 loses approx. the same amount, maybe a little less.
I've found the EVO to be no more power hungry than any "superphone" i've used including the iphone 3gs.
signal strength also plays a part
one thought based on my experience with a palm pre and htc hero: signal strength.
My office has very low signal strength (1 bar or less). The battery seems to drain quite fast here. If I'm somewhere else with good signal, my battery lasts much longer. Same battery drain if you're going in and out of evdo / 1Rxx.
Sean
My battery life is like all the other phones i had lately (see my sig).
No more, no less.
I have to say my battery is getting better with going through a couple full charges, as for lag nope none not here
“Phone idle,” and “Android system” that eat up over 75% of the life.
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LMAO, the fact that he wrote that puts severe doubt in his skills to review an android phone.
I can't believe this thread is going on seeing as that's an Apple Fanboy site. Will say anything to make his Iphone sound like the best thing ever. He lost all credibility when he said the Nexus One and Incredible were better phones.
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the battery technology is a few years old. the cpu is 1ghz.. the phone is sniffing 3g/4g/wifi/bt plus the shiny screen and backlight all use power. the battery technology being used in this state of the art phone is not advancing as fast as the phones are...
the reason the top ~10% of the charge goes so quickly is due to the you taking the phone off charge.. the cells in Li-ION batteries are not created equal. some cells will get a stronger/longer charge than other cells. once you take the battery off charge, the cells that are stronger in charge than the others will feed that extra charge to those other cells, so your battery charge will fall down to around 90 or so pretty quickly out the gate.. from there the cells are all stable and equally charged and stay at a constant discharge rate for about ~87% to about ~55%.
once the charge falls below 55% the cells really start to lose their charge and the battery curve drops drastically.
when you "top off" the phone for , say, 30 minutes or so and you take it off charge and you see 100%. do understand that one or two cells have a fuller (my word) charge than others.. once the cells equalize, then you will see the tru charge (which will be much much less than 100%)...
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the battery in the EVO (and pretty much every phone evar) is a single cell battery.
you have no idea what your talking about do you?
I'm wanting to get one, but I can't find ANY reviews online for it. Has anyone used it before?
Anyone at all?
3000mAh is scam.......should be good for about 2400 max
Had one for about 2 months now. I get about 24 hours of very heavy usage. Internet, numerous phone calls, texts, slingbox over 3G, and using power amp for hours on end will usually have me recharging after 24 hours. I could probably use it longer, but I hate to run my battery all the way down.
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Had one for about 2 months now. I get about 24 hours of very heavy usage. Internet, numerous phone calls, texts, slingbox over 3G, and using power amp for hours on end will usually have me recharging after 24 hours. I could probably use it longer, but I hate to run my battery all the way down.
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That sounds like it's exactly what I need! =O
How much battery life do you get out of normal usage?
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Had one for about 2 months now. I get about 24 hours of very heavy usage. Internet, numerous phone calls, texts, slingbox over 3G, and using power amp for hours on end will usually have me recharging after 24 hours. I could probably use it longer, but I hate to run my battery all the way down.
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Sounds about the same i get with 3g all day
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I have been considering an extended battery myself, but it seems all the higher quality brands (Japanese cells) are over $50. Not sure if I can justify such an expense over just having another regular battery to swap on the go.
If anyone finds a good deal on the brand name one, drop us a link.
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Sounds about the same i get with 3g all day
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I get about 40 to 48 hours with normal usage (few calls, data on, 3g on, push email, etc) I also have an ass of widgets on my homescreens that automatically update such as beautiful widgets, pure calendar, feedr, facebook, etc. Best phone accessory I have ever purchased.
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I get about 40 to 48 hours with normal usage (few calls, data on, 3g on, push email, etc) I also have an ass of widgets on my homescreens that automatically update such as beautiful widgets, pure calendar, feedr, facebook, etc. Best phone accessory I have ever purchased.
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What rom are you on? Im on stock 2.2 and it seems i could get more out of the battery when i change the brightness settings to the lowest, but im working outdoors right now and need it all the way up. I noticed a huge difference in batt life coming from 2.1 with the same settings. Seems life froyo helped a bit
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Is this one that sticks out the back of the phone and needs a custom back cover so none of the regular cases work and your phone is twice as thick as stock??
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Is this one that sticks out the back of the phone and needs a custom back cover so none of the regular cases work and your phone is twice as thick as stock??
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Most extended batteries are like that.
Fortunately, most people who buy extended batteries don't care how it looks, don't buy custom cases to begin with, and don't care about thickness.
I need more battery life. Running Bionix 1.3 right now, and I'm constantly using my phone from about 6AM to 10PM every day with no time to charge it in between, and it's typically near the 5% mark by the end of the day, which I can't risk for too much longer.
Unless you are gaming just get an extra 1650 mah battery it is much more convenient. i had one but the weight and bulkiness was not worth to me. They do give a decent amount of use though.....
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Unless you are gaming just get an extra 1650 mah battery it is much more convenient. i had one but the weight and bulkiness was not worth to me. They do give a decent amount of use though.....
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My friend has one for his Vibrant, and it might look bulky, but good god it can live long, I moderately use mine and it dies, he's using his the ENTIRE day and he's still got 35% of his battery left at the end of the school day...
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My friend has one for his Vibrant, and it might look bulky, but good god it can live long, I moderately use mine and it dies, he's using his the ENTIRE day and he's still got 35% of his battery left at the end of the school day...
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Yeaaah, I use mine a lot and it tends to die by 10 now, which means I"m getting about 16 hours of battery life. By all accounts, that's a good number, but it's just flat out not enough.
accessory geeks 3000mah
ag 3000mah gives me about 80% left after a 2 1/2 hours phone call which is pretty darn good, wich the phone call was with the screen off the whole time.
Hi Guys,
I actually have a HD7m but my dad quite liked the 4.3 inch screen and was now asking me to buy a similar handset. We went out and he was quite impressed with the Desire HD.
But the catch, when I researched online, I found out the battery issue on practically every thread and community.
Now my problem: He is an old man and can get cranky at times. Currently owes a Nokia C6 and is pissed with the touch screen. So is it wise to buy him Desire HD even with the bad battery life?
Or worse case scenario, I swap my HD7 for his Desire HD????
Should I go for it or should can you guys suggest something else equally fluid??
It doesn't have battery issues once calibrated. I have 1-5mA battery drain on standby, that's even when running MSN and CallerID2Voice App in the background. And I can still get hours out of it when using it. Just recharge it every-night. I doubt your dad will be a smartphone addicted guy.
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It doesn't have battery issues once calibrated. I have 1-5mA battery drain on standby, that's even when running MSN and CallerID2Voice App in the background. And I can still get hours out of it when using it. Just recharge it every-night. I doubt your dad will be a smartphone addicted guy.
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Hey,
Thanx...no he isn't a smart phone addicted guy. But the battery was so obvious an issue, I had to ask the experts here. Also, what exactly do you mean by 'calibrated'?
I mean, I have been an Android user before, but not quite sure what calibration is ?
He is a simple user with checking some mails everyday, music and some websites may be...thats about it, HTC Sense and all makes no difference to him actually...
If its battery life your after, buy a Johns Phone, you get 3 weeks between charges.
After you battery has been "run in" and calibrated you will get at least a day with light usage. Remember this is a powerful smartphone.
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Hey,
Thanx...no he isn't a smart phone addicted guy. But the battery was so obvious an issue, I had to ask the experts here. Also, what exactly do you mean by 'calibrated'?
I mean, I have been an Android user before, but not quite sure what calibration is ?
He is a simple user with checking some mails everyday, music and some websites may be...thats about it, HTC Sense and all makes no difference to him actually...
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The battery calibration concerns only those who are using a custom rom. (here's a short article with app that does it for you if you're interested). I wouldn't recommend the DHD for my own father. Whatever you do to it you'll almost always have to charge it overnight, with stock rom it could be even twice a day. This isn't a problem for smartphone enthusiasts, but for oldschool people (like my father) who think phones should last a week without charging this can be quite off-putting. The DHD is also starting to get kinda old already, so you might wanna take a look at some newer phones. A good alternative could be the Desire S, as it has almost the same features with a slightly better battery.
And to those who can't admit that the DHD has bad battery life I just have to say that the out-of-the-box battery life could and should be a lot better. To get it lasting as it should takes a bit of effort which shouldn't be required from a normal user.
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The battery calibration concerns only those who are using a custom rom. (here's a short article with app that does it for you if you're interested). I wouldn't recommend the DHD for my own father. Whatever you do to it you'll almost always have to charge it overnight, with stock rom it could be even twice a day. This isn't a problem for smartphone enthusiasts, but for oldschool people (like my father) who think phones should last a week without charging this can be quite off-putting. The DHD is also starting to get kinda old already, so you might wanna take a look at some newer phones. A good alternative could be the Desire S, as it has almost the same features with a slightly better battery.
And to those who can't admit that the DHD has bad battery life I just have to say that the out-of-the-box battery life could and should be a lot better. To get it lasting as it should takes a bit of effort which shouldn't be required from a normal user.
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Thanx so much...that was really helpful...albeit your explanation on battery life, I just wanted to add that he was in love with the 4.3 inch screen...and only HD7 is the other device with that screen size...So I think Desire S is also a good option...let me check with him...
Again, Thanx!
depend on what you consider a good battery life, some may say getting a day is good enough, but some define good as atleast 2 days.
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And to those who can't admit that the DHD has bad battery life I just have to say that the out-of-the-box battery life could and should be a lot better. To get it lasting as it should takes a bit of effort which shouldn't be required from a normal user.
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Absolutely right. I'm tired of hearing people evangelising that the DHD's battery is fine. It patently is not. Even when you severly rein back the device's features (features which HTC flaunted to get us all hooked), one ends up with 25-30% at the day's end.... And if you have a 'heavy' day of calls/browsing etc, you'll have to top up to get through the day.
But I still regard HTC as just about the best of a bad bunch...
Ok, sorry to hijack this thread a little.
The battery is fine, there are no issues with the battery. Your problem with the battery is that its small. Before you bought the phone did you not look into the battery capacity? I did, I knew it was smaller than the Desire's battery. Out-of-the-box it will act like any other lithium-ion battery that is just out-of-the-box. That "bit of effort" , what, plugging in your charger when it requires a charge.
These guides to correctly charge lithium-ion batteries are largely mumbo jumbo (charge to 100%, turn off, charge again for 250,000 hours, turn on, drain battery, rinse & repeat). Just charge it overnight, when your asleep.
Any smartphone with comparable usage will last around the same time and require a daily charge. If you want a phone that will last days between charges, don't buy a smartphone.
If you turn off all the bells & whistles, use 2G only and use it only for calls & sms', just like a regular phone. It will last days between charges.
If you want a powerful smartphone with a large screen, and lots of features, your battery is going to pay for it.
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Ok, sorry to hijack this thread a little.
Before you bought the phone did you not look into the battery capacity? I did, I knew it was smaller than the Desire's battery. Out-of-the-box it will act like any other lithium-ion battery that is just out-of-the-box. That "bit of effort" , what, plugging in your charger when it requires a charge.
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I'm not sure anybody on this forum expects days of use between charges - we're not daft. What I expect is to not have power-saving mode kick in by late afternoon when I'm nowhere near a charger, and I've not used the thing particularly heavily.
It's not right to conclude that others didn't read up on the battery before purchasing. You have no basis for drawing such conclusions.
HTC marketed the DHD on the basis that it's architecture was such that it didn't need a higher-capacity battery to do its job. Based on the fact that I'd had pretty good experiences with my previous HTCs, I saw no reason to doubt this.
In any case, just because you don't mind charging your phone part-way through a day, doesn't mean that everybody else should be happy with that.
I don't Say ! ^^
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That's why I said that there are "oldschool people" (like my father) who think the battery should last a week. I don't mind charging the phone every night, but there are people who can't cope with such a "short" battery life. That's why the battery life of the DHD should be taken under consideration when buying a new phone.
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Ok, sorry to hijack this thread a little.
The battery is fine, there are no issues with the battery. Your problem with the battery is that its small. Before you bought the phone did you not look into the battery capacity? I did, I knew it was smaller than the Desire's battery. Out-of-the-box it will act like any other lithium-ion battery that is just out-of-the-box. That "bit of effort" , what, plugging in your charger when it requires a charge.
Any smartphone with comparable usage will last around the same time and require a daily charge. If you want a phone that will last days between charges, don't buy a smartphone.
If you turn off all the bells & whistles, use 2G only and use it only for calls & sms', just like a regular phone. It will last days between charges.
If you want a powerful smartphone with a large screen, and lots of features, your battery is going to pay for it.
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I didn't mean that the battery was bad quality or anything, just that it is a bit too small for such a powerful phone. And yes I was aware of the battery capacity and I don't mind, but again there are people that require more from their phones.
And the instructions to close connections when you're not using them and turning down the screen brightness etc. are plain stupid. I bought a smartphone so that I can get my email whenever and wherever and to enjoy the big screen and not so that I can receive emails only when I choose to and so that I have to squint to see something from the screen when the brightness is set to the lowest. This is just a couple of the features I need ofcourse, but for me it's important to always receive emails instantly and not only when I can afford to spend some battery on internet connection.
When I was still running stock rom I could barely get through a day at work (8 hours). I had mobile network on the whole time and the screen brightness set at about 50% (which I think should be used at 100% all the time to really enjoy the screen) I talked for about half an hour during the days, sent 10 texts and listened to music/played/surfed on the internet for about 3 hours in all. When I got home I had to charge it. This ofcourse is everything one could need, but there are smartphones with better battery life.
Now of ofcourse when I have a custom rom that's tweaked and everything there's no problem with battery life, but that shouldn't be necessary to do and it's quite a lot to ask just so you can have a decent battery life. That's why I was talking about out-of-the-box battery life.
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That's why I said that there are "oldschool people" (like my father) who think the battery should last a week. I don't mind charging the phone every night, but there are people who can't cope with such a "short" battery life. That's why the battery life of the DHD should be taken under consideration when buying a new phone.
I didn't mean that the battery was bad quality or anything, just that it is a bit too small for such a powerful phone. And yes I was aware of the battery capacity and I don't mind, but again there are people that require more from their phones.
And the instructions to close connections when you're not using them and turning down the screen brightness etc. are plain stupid. I bought a smartphone so that I can get my email whenever and wherever and to enjoy the big screen and not so that I can receive emails only when I choose to and so that I have to squint to see something from the screen when the brightness is set to the lowest. This is just a couple of the features I need ofcourse, but for me it's important to always receive emails instantly and not only when I can afford to spend some battery on internet connection.
When I was still running stock rom I could barely get through a day at work (8 hours). I had mobile network on the whole time and the screen brightness set at about 50% (which I think should be used at 100% all the time to really enjoy the screen) I talked for about half an hour during the days, sent 10 texts and listened to music/played/surfed on the internet for about 3 hours in all. When I got home I had to charge it. This ofcourse is everything one could need, but there are smartphones with better battery life.
Now of ofcourse when I have a custom rom that's tweaked and everything there's no problem with battery life, but that shouldn't be necessary to do and it's quite a lot to ask just so you can have a decent battery life. That's why I was talking about out-of-the-box battery life.
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If you want to receive emails and text, I find that GSM is fine for that. If you want to go internet browsing, just switch on to 3G.
Smartphones these days have basically a different definition of battery life to the old nokia symbian and similar phones of old. Those could go up to a week. Smartphones on the other hand are considered awesome if they can last 3.
I do have to say ultimately I think HTC sold the battery life a bit short on the DHD. 1230mah I think is really just making way for all the other top-of-the-line features that it had when it came out.
HTC have released a great number of variants of this phone now, all with better iterations of design and also with bigger batteries because of this.
1400-1500mah (or even above) I think is really what you need with a 4.3" display phone. 1230 would be far more acceptable for a <4" display. Although it can be made quite livable for a day or two with an excellent custom rom, I don't really think it's enough for a basic consumer using the standard rom. That and the speaker/audio out are the two biggest pitfalls of the DHD imo.
Sensation is now HTC's newest 4.3" phone which has a good 1500mah battery. I hope Sense 3.0 doesn't wear it down too fast!
Ultimate thoughts: Although it's a great phone, I think it's a power user's phone more than anything. You will definitely only get the best out of it by customising to it's best potential, which is also when you get acceptable battery life. If you don't, it really does seem a waste.
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When I was still running stock rom I could barely get through a day at work (8 hours). I had mobile network on the whole time and the screen brightness set at about 50% (which I think should be used at 100% all the time to really enjoy the screen) I talked for about half an hour during the days, sent 10 texts and listened to music/played/surfed on the internet for about 3 hours in all. When I got home I had to charge it. This ofcourse is everything one could need, but there are smartphones with better battery life.
Now of ofcourse when I have a custom rom that's tweaked and everything there's no problem with battery life
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I had the same sort of expectancy out of the battery using it moderately during a day at work out of the box. However with custom ROM installed I have found the battery to last easily the whole day with the same usage and probably have approx 40 - 50% left after 15hrs on battery.
just my 2c
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Ok, sorry to hijack this thread a little.
The battery is fine, there are no issues with the battery. Your problem with the battery is that its small. Before you bought the phone did you not look into the battery capacity? I did, I knew it was smaller than the Desire's battery. Out-of-the-box it will act like any other lithium-ion battery that is just out-of-the-box. That "bit of effort" , what, plugging in your charger when it requires a charge.
These guides to correctly charge lithium-ion batteries are largely mumbo jumbo (charge to 100%, turn off, charge again for 250,000 hours, turn on, drain battery, rinse & repeat). Just charge it overnight, when your asleep.
Any smartphone with comparable usage will last around the same time and require a daily charge. If you want a phone that will last days between charges, don't buy a smartphone.
If you turn off all the bells & whistles, use 2G only and use it only for calls & sms', just like a regular phone. It will last days between charges.
If you want a powerful smartphone with a large screen, and lots of features, your battery is going to pay for it.
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I am extremely sorry but I disagree with u completely. You are talking as if you buy an expensive car but dont drive it too much as it eats a lot of fuel. If you want to just drive around, why dont you just get yourself a mopet. The point is, i have bought an expensive car TO DRIVE it around. If I buy a smartphone and not use its SMART features, why am I buying it for??? If I practically shut all the reasons why I bought this phone, WHY the hell am I buying it??
There is an old saying that comes to mind that it takes guts to stay in the minority. If the battery is flawed, ACCEPT it.
Anyways, I have got my answer. Thanx for your reply nonetheless.
As everyone says depends on usage.
For one thing i went from 80mA down to 8mA just by updating the radio which came stock.
Now with a different rom and kernel I get -1mA on standby, juicedefender is also a nice app. The battery life depends on your setup though, I easily get 2 days of moderate use/music/games/calls etc.
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As everyone says depends on usage.
For one thing i went from 80mA down to 8mA just by updating the radio which came stock.
Now with a different rom and kernel I get -1mA on standby, juicedefender is also a nice app. The battery life depends on your setup though, I easily get 2 days of moderate use/music/games/calls etc.
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Hey thanx man...But was just wondering, with very moderate usage, will it still be over in no time?
Also, the other thing worrying me is the memory card issue...I cant afford to lose one card after another once I buy an expensive phone, u know what I mean...
The battery life is acceptable with moderate use on stock rom, if you're a power user you will have to stay close to a charger
There's no memory card issue from the DHD's part, it's just the crappy "freebie" sdcard (samsung?) which comes with the phone that stops working. The people who are complaining that the DHD breaks sdcards are those who buy cheap, bad quality sdcards or get a warranty replacement for the original one, which will be just as bad. The solution to this is to buy a better quality microsd card (costs about 15€) if the original stops working. Mine's still working great though.
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The battery life is acceptable with moderate use on stock rom, if you're a power user you will have to stay close to a charger
There's no memory card issue from the DHD's part, it's just the crappy "freebie" sdcard (samsung?) which comes with the phone that stops working. The people who are complaining that the DHD breaks sdcards are those who buy cheap, bad quality sdcards or get a warranty replacement for the original one, which will be just as bad. The solution to this is to buy a better quality microsd card (costs about 15€) if the original stops working. Mine's still working great though.
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After receiving a replacement 'new' phone, and having problems with my SD Card from the very second it switched on, I complained to HTC about the issue and the man on the end of the phone admitted around 500,000 phones that had been dispatched has been shipped with KNOWN issues & SD Card incapabilities. If you went out today and bought a brand spanking new card, in theory the phone WOULD NOT and the SD Card WOULD NOT fail.
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I'm not sure anybody on this forum expects days of use between charges - we're not daft. What I expect is to not have power-saving mode kick in by late afternoon when I'm nowhere near a charger, and I've not used the thing particularly heavily.
It's not right to conclude that others didn't read up on the battery before purchasing. You have no basis for drawing such conclusions.
HTC marketed the DHD on the basis that it's architecture was such that it didn't need a higher-capacity battery to do its job. Based on the fact that I'd had pretty good experiences with my previous HTCs, I saw no reason to doubt this.
In any case, just because you don't mind charging your phone part-way through a day, doesn't mean that everybody else should be happy with that.
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I don't mean to hijack you here mate, but you assume/claim that:
'HTC marketed the DHD on the basis that it's architecture was such that it didn't need a higher-capacity battery to do its job.'
Well I take it that you assume this on the basis that Leprechauns are real and are roaming New York city as we speak? If HTC were doing any market research at all, they would realize that even devices with smaller screens have a bigger battery than the one they have put into the DhD, including the Desire Z & Desire's batteries?
I remember when I was looking at reviews for the original Desire, as I fancied one, the main complaints were the battery life, and the fact people only got a day's charge on it. So I thought fair do's, big screen, big price to pay? If HTC had done any research, they would have realized that people wanted better battery life, a better quality screen, better sound quality?
You want to know what the real reason is behind HTC putting a small battery inside the Device? Well it's the fact that the entire thing was rushed, and I mean rushed? There's evidence of this in the build quality, the software, the placing of different things within the phone and also the bad batch issues HTC experienced.
The HD was leaked in September/October, it was released by November, this is not normal for any device that becomes 'leaked'. HTC used a bad screen, imported most of the software from the original Desire, obviously making edits to make it Sense 2.0, but you can clearly see they didn't change everything? If you set the Android Pattern Lock Screen, you can see that it doesn't fill the whole screen, the IME is the standard HTC one with some arrows slapped in at the bottom? They didn't even change the size of the keyboard?, this is more evident if you use the IME in landscape mode, its hard.
What sort of company places an Antenna in the Battery Cover? It's true, remove your Battery Cover and you'll loose all signal? Pretty risky move for HTC, seeing as the Battery Cover is VERY easy to 'accidently' break, and frankly your screwed then right? It's like they designed the phone, forgot the Antenna, then quickly though 'Where the f*** is this going?' and decided to place it there? In my opinion, and a few others, they did this with the battery, they made the device too thin, and in reality they just couldn't fit everything in. The Desire S which is slightly thicker, packs a brilliant battery. Problem solved.
The build quality of the phone, is not one of a £500 price tag. Some parts of the phone squeak whereas others just do not feel adequate to the pricing of the device. There again we live in a world where no matter how much you pay, something always seems to be wrong.
Sorry if I have offended any HTC lovers, all attacks on my and opinions against me are welcome, don't get me wrong, I love my phone and I can cope with charging the battery every night. Chao.
And I absolutely love it. Browser is smooth as silk. YouTube and Gmail app are so slick. Loving new ui and I'm still getting used to getting efficient with navigation.
Also loving Verizon coming from tmo. Microsoft employee discount was pretty sick too. 22% off, no activation fee, $20 unlimited data and free case/screen/car charger.
Only gripe is battery but its understandable with this huge screen and heavy lte streaming.
Previous phones were g1 g2 n1 ns vibrant iPhone 3gs/3g bb9700
If u are on the fence and an android/nexus fan you wont be disappointed!
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I agree. I had mine for few days now and I am impressed - it is far better than I expected it to be. Although I am very jealous of your $20 deal - I am having to pay £34 here in UK :-(
I'm on day number two; I'd been using ICS for a few weeks thanks to the NS4G developer community but it is by far a superior experience on this phone. I was concerned about the big size initially because I've tended prefer smaller-screen phones, however the look and feel of this phone is superior to any other phone that I've used.
I can't comment on battery life yet because I've had it for less than 24 hours, but I tend to find that a week or two of charge/discharge cycles is required before you really know how your phone will perform. Also, OS updates will fix some of the problems some people have reported having.
Most importantly for me, though, is that we have the flagship Android phone. It may not be the most decked-out phone hardware-wise, but when it comes to updates and support we're the cream of the crop, and that makes a douchebag like me feel warm and cozy inside.
EDIT: I am new to Verizon so I obviously am not eligible for unlimited data, but $50 a month for 10GB isn't too shabby. There's no way that I will hit 10GB (though I will probably come close some months!), but it's nice to know I am not going to be stressing checking my data usage after coming from Sprint and true unlimited service.
Ditto. Came from iPhone 4S and this phone is just amazing. I have the $20 unlimited data grandfathered thank god!
The build quality is actually very nice. Its all one piece with the battery cover being the only other extra piece. Plastic is more durable over time than aluminum and glass.
Can't wait for 4.0.3 to come. Vest part is we are getting it first! YAY!
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I'm on Day 4... For me, once I was able to flash the update that adds the hidden menu buttons, I was set (too many apps I have didn't trigger the menu buttons). I love the ICS versions of the apps (especially GMail and the Exchange Email).
Since I'm in a 3G area only (and only infrequently travel to 4G markets maybe once a week), take these results with a grain of salt:
(Proviso - Since I'm in a 3G area that isn't likely to get 4G for a year or so, I set the phone to 3G only so it doesn't keep trying to find a 4G signal.. This may be why I'm having the battery life that I am having)
1st day - continuous email/gmail push and tons of GTalk messages and a lot of "screen on" time - I got about 14~15 hours of battery life.
2nd day - about the same, but with less "screen on" time - easily a day with some room to spare. I only made three phone calls about 10 minutes each, but had over 150 emails spread throughout the day with about 30 texts.
3rd day - Saturday. I unplugged it from the charge at 8 AM and it is still unplugged as of now (Sunday ~ 10AM) and I have more than half the charge.
Signal strength in my house is 1 bar. This is the same as it has been for any other verizon phone (Razr sometimes went to two bar, but it fluctuated back and forth to 1 bar). Phone calls are clear and not garbled by low signal strength.
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I'm on Day 4... For me, once I was able to flash the update that adds the hidden menu buttons, I was set (too many apps I have didn't trigger the menu buttons). I love the ICS versions of the apps (especially GMail and the Exchange Email).
Since I'm in a 3G area only (and only infrequently travel to 4G markets maybe once a week), take these results with a grain of salt:
(Proviso - Since I'm in a 3G area that isn't likely to get 4G for a year or so, I set the phone to 3G only so it doesn't keep trying to find a 4G signal.. This may be why I'm having the battery life that I am having)
1st day - continuous email/gmail push and tons of GTalk messages and a lot of "screen on" time - I got about 14~15 hours of battery life.
2nd day - about the same, but with less "screen on" time - easily a day with some room to spare. I only made three phone calls about 10 minutes each, but had over 150 emails spread throughout the day with about 30 texts.
3rd day - Saturday. I unplugged it from the charge at 8 AM and it is still unplugged as of now (Sunday ~ 10AM) and I have more than half the charge.
Signal strength in my house is 1 bar. This is the same as it has been for any other verizon phone (Razr sometimes went to two bar, but it fluctuated back and forth to 1 bar). Phone calls are clear and not garbled by low signal strength.
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Hey brother; I live in Floresville but work in San Antonio. LTE in the city is good, but I get nothing where I live in the midst of all the oak. Verizon is sending a team here to check my signal strength and I was told that they would likely send me a comped network extender when they see how bad it is in a supposedly strong 3G area.
Normally I wait a week also to decide on battery life, but VZW is offering 50% off their batteries for LTE devices. So you can get the extended for $25.00... I got it, figured either way, now I have an extra.
I got the extended battery as well, won't be here til Monday though. Whatever I did fixed my battery life and I was able to only drain 8-9% over the 7 hours I slept last night. This battery issue will be fixed, it's just a matter of time. It's not the phone being LTE and dual core. It's purely software.
Things I like:
- Speed/fluidity: coming from an OG Droid this is crazy how fast it is. I'd briefly used a Sprint GSII earlier in the year and this is even smoother than that in places. The browser in particular blows me away, it's better than Safari on the iPhone I think.
- Screen: Love it at higher brightness settings.
- Weight: A ton lighter and easier to hold than the OG was.
- ICS: This is going to be really slick once most apps get updated to fully support the UI changes, hardware acceleration etc. Did you guys notice stuff like the changed voice in Google Maps Navigation? It's much less grating now.
Things I don't like:
- Battery life: This is obviously the big one and honestly might be what causes me to return the phone if it's not substantially improved via software/firmware before the return period is up. I blew through both batteries I have yesterday in a period of about 6 1/2 hours. I routinely got a full day out of one on the OG and other phones friends have don't seem anywhere near this bad. I have LTE off and screen brightness down low too. I really hope this is just the OS issues with keep awake etc, but I dunno...
- Camera: It really is nowhere near as good as the ones on the other current phones. Really wish they'd used the sensor from the GSII.
- Signal strength: Definitely am seeing lower signal with this vs the OG, especially indoors at stores and whatnot.
- Screen at low brightness: Count me as one of the people who didn't realize AMOLED had the sheet of linen type look at low brightness. I can live with it but I do hope they get the battery situation under control so I can run it higher than minimum.
- Getting used to onscreen keyboard: Didn't realize how much I used the OG's hardware one until now...
- App incompatibilities: I know this is temporary, but there are several apps I use that are FCing left and right with ICS, especially if I have force GPU acceleration on.
dspcap said:
Normally I wait a week also to decide on battery life, but VZW is offering 50% off their batteries for LTE devices. So you can get the extended for $25.00... I got it, figured either way, now I have an extra.
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I did the exact same thing; even though I have faith that with LTE turned off and screen brightness turned down that this battery will be more than sufficient after a couple of charges, for $25 it seemed stupid not to buy the extended battery now just in case.
I really don't want to change the aesthetics of the phone with a thicker battery, of course, but it was a "what the hell" moment.
I have the extended batt and I feel like it drains a bit quicker than the normal one. I switched back to the normal one and the phone feels great. I will have to report back with battery tests. I had the extended one in there from day one, yesterday around 1300 I put the original batt in and it had about 68% charge. With med usage I was able to make it 23hrs. I woke up and it still had 13% battery left. I came from the bionic and what I notice is that I'm able to get decent if not better battery life with the stock battery over the extended batt. I will report back in a few days.... Love the phone though.
Went to a buddy's Christmas party and I had iPhone users scrambling trying to find that face effect camera app . To funny my phone counted for hours of drunk fun. F***king luv this phone I'm on day three!!!!
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I did the exact same thing; even though I have faith that with LTE turned off and screen brightness turned down that this battery will be more than sufficient after a couple of charges, for $25 it seemed stupid not to buy the extended battery now just in case.
I really don't want to change the aesthetics of the phone with a thicker battery, of course, but it was a "what the hell" moment.
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I thought the same thing about "aesthetics" but after looking at the pictures and videos of the extended battery it looks as if the chin on the rear bottom becomes smooth. No more chin just straight. Which is fine by me!
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I've had it for a few days myself, and find that I'm liking it better than my iphone 3gs. It's rather a relief not being locked into the "walled garden" anymore.
Once thing I noticed was the lack of latency. The 3gs loaded pages fast, but only after a moderate delay. The GN provides an almost instance response.
Anyway. I'm in Canada. No $20 unlimited for me. We get totally screwed here when it comes to cellular stuff, given our little monopoly triad scandal that's in play. I get to pay $70 for a plan that only includes 1GB (and the contract requires us to be happy about it too)
Oh well.
if you are with virgin or bell ask to speak to retention department and request for the 6 gigs for 30 dollars.
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eakrish said:
I have the extended batt and I feel like it drains a bit quicker than the normal one. I switched back to the normal one and the phone feels great. I will have to report back with battery tests. I had the extended one in there from day one, yesterday around 1300 I put the original batt in and it had about 68% charge. With med usage I was able to make it 23hrs. I woke up and it still had 13% battery left. I came from the bionic and what I notice is that I'm able to get decent if not better battery life with the stock battery over the extended batt. I will report back in a few days.... Love the phone though.
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Remember that you need to go through a couple charge cycles with a new battery to get optimal results.
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And I absolutely love it. Browser is smooth as silk. YouTube and Gmail app are so slick. Loving new ui and I'm still getting used to getting efficient with navigation.
Also loving Verizon coming from tmo. Microsoft employee discount was pretty sick too. 22% off, no activation fee, $20 unlimited data and free case/screen/car charger.
Only gripe is battery but its understandable with this huge screen and heavy lte streaming.
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If u are on the fence and an android/nexus fan you wont be disappointed!
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How did you get unlimited data for $20, and they threw in free accessories? DId you ask for the accessories or did they just throw them in for you? Shoot im a new verizon customer and i didn't get a great deal like that.
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I thought the same thing about "aesthetics" but after looking at the pictures and videos of the extended battery it looks as if the chin on the rear bottom becomes smooth. No more chin just straight. Which is fine by me!
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If this is true then I can't wait!!
Has anyone got a decent case with a battery in it?
as the nexus 5 does seem to have a not too good battery life.
(considering this device)
Seriously? I'm getting 14 to 16 hours with 6+ hours screen on time. It's not bad if you ask me.
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I agree. I'm getting better battery life than any phone I have owned, without rooting and messing with cpu governors, or adding an unwieldy 3000+ mah aftermarket battery.
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wow
from what I'v heard in reviews its not great, was about 5 reviews.
hmmm, Ill look into that a bit more
also geekphone.com is showing a not too great battery life
No, your not wrong, the phone is going to have less talk time than some of its larger battery packing competitors given the same use, physics works as they say. I'm on the lookout myself but have yet to see anything.
It could could be a software and hardware thing, as samsung does take a big dump on android. Pure android and especially 4.4 theoretically should have a lower power consumption.
how long does it generally last when mid-heavily used?
I can't comment on battery life, but I can tell you you won't be seeing a battery case. Only 2 products sell enough to make it a reasonable expense to develop: The newest iPhone, and the newest Galaxy S.
Zurginator said:
I can't comment on battery life, but I can tell you you won't be seeing a battery case. Only 2 products sell enough to make it a reasonable expense to develop: The newest iPhone, and the newest Galaxy S.
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I disagree, my DHD had quite a few and it didn't have that many sales (probably less than nexus 5 in a month or so)
I'm getting much better battery life than any previous phones I've had. I can squeeze about two full days out of it with about 3-4 hours of screen on time. If I use it a lot (6+ hours screen on) or do battery heavy tasks (play a lot of games, talk on the phone a lot), then it still lasts a full day (from wake up to sleep). Unless you absolutely abhor charging your phone every night, I don't think it's worth the unnecessary bulk of a battery case.
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I'm getting much better battery life than any previous phones I've had. I can squeeze about two full days out of it with about 3-4 hours of screen on time. If I use it a lot (6+ hours screen on) or do battery heavy tasks (play a lot of games, talk on the phone a lot), then it still lasts a full day (from wake up to sleep). Unless you absolutely abhor charging your phone every night, I don't think it's worth the unnecessary bulk of a battery case.
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Is this on stock? I understand that diff configs will have diff results. When I go to bed, I usually have about 40% left with 15 hours run time about and 1 hour of screen time. This is with two gmail accounts syncing, facebook and everything on. It's not bad but nowhere near 6 hours of screen time. Especially if I play a game like Asphalt 8. The battery drops like crazy. Not complaining, but I would love to have 6 hours of screen time.
I contacted Mophie to see if they had plans to make a case for the N5. I just got a pretty generic email back but looked like they would be working on something for the N5.
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Is this on stock? I understand that diff configs will have diff results. When I go to bed, I usually have about 40% left with 15 hours run time about and 1 hour of screen time. This is with two gmail accounts syncing, facebook and everything on. It's not bad but nowhere near 6 hours of screen time. Especially if I play a game like Asphalt 8. The battery drops like crazy. Not complaining, but I would love to have 6 hours of screen time.
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I didn't make it clear enough in my post, but when I said 6 hours of screen on time or battery heavy tasks, I meant one or the other but not both. If I play games or do a lot of battery heavy tasks,t hen it doesn't last anywhere near two days. I might get 6 hours screen on time if I don't play any games, make no phone calls for the day (which is odd, I do admit), and mostly browse the internet, text, view pictures, check facebook, things of that nature. On average, I get anywhere between 2-4 hours screen on time with usually an hour of gaming, mostly texting, browsing, and other small stuff like that. It usually lasts me 2 days. It's not fantastic battery life, but definitely better than my S3 and my Atrix before that.
EDIT: I didn't use my phone much at all today. I've got about 10 minutes of phone calls and an hour of screen on time, 13 hours total, and I'm sitting at 72%. You might want to check what is using the most battery in your battery settings or download an alternate app. Screen is typically using 2 to 3 times more than the next thing under it (which for me is WiFi).