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The little plastic bits at each side of the keyboard. I've just noticed them now. They're like the screen protecter film you get on electronic devices. I wonder if they indicate areas of possible wear and tear
Yes ... they are at the rear of the keyboard and on the underside of the screen half as well.
I found with mine that at the back there were a couple of scratches in this plastic indicating that the mechanism was so tight that it did mark. Hard to say what it would be like over time.
Did you check your PM re the screen ?
Also ... can you confirm your tilt is very stiff ... particularly the initial movement ... and that when you push the screen back down, just before it goes flat ... that you get a distinct click like a dislocation ?
Paul.
pgamble said:
Yes ... they are at the rear of the keyboard and on the underside of the screen half as well.
I found with mine that at the back there were a couple of scratches in this plastic indicating that the mechanism was so tight that it did mark. Hard to say what it would be like over time.
Did you check your PM re the screen ?
Also ... can you confirm your tilt is very stiff ... particularly the initial movement ... and that when you push the screen back down, just before it goes flat ... that you get a distinct click like a dislocation ?
Paul.
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Paul, I just got mine today and you are right, the tilt is stiff at the initial movement and it also has a click (mechanical) sound just before it goes flat.
as far as scratches are concerned, there are none that i can see.
however, there seems to be a gap between the keys and the screen panel, so there should be no problem in that area pertaining to scratches or friction.
Any sign of that pinched top surface about 1/2" down from the top as the front surface touches the left chrome edge ?
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Any sign of that pinched top surface about 1/2" down from the top as the front surface touches the left chrome edge ?
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Well if the screen is facing towards me then this is happening on the right side surface. Also the protector on the right side (of the keyboard) is a bit worn out so may be that is the reason.
Do you think removing the protector (from either sides of keyboard) will result in scratches?
I too have a stiff one. Yes, the tilt. And when I tilt it back again it has a click. I think the phone feels strong and well-made. I'm already happy with it.
Gutted that I screwed up putting the screen protector on.
<starts searching for new screen protector>
rb14 said:
I too have a stiff one. >
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lol, you'll just have to play with it for a bit...
rb14 said:
I too have a stiff one. And when I tilt it back again it has a click.
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LOL, that's too funny! Sounds like a viagra commercial
Tomo said:
The little plastic bits at each side of the keyboard. I've just noticed them now. They're like the screen protecter film you get on electronic devices. I wonder if they indicate areas of possible wear and tear
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The left-hand plastic managed to get tangled up in the slide mechanism this morning. Was a bit of a mission to get it out but I'm just gonna get rid of that bit. Will leave the right side on for the time being.
Incidentally, the screen protector in the box is very soft and gets marked really easily!
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The left-hand plastic managed to get tangled up in the slide mechanism this morning. Was a bit of a mission to get it out but I'm just gonna get rid of that bit. Will leave the right side on for the time being.
Incidentally, the screen protector in the box is very soft and gets marked really easily!
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If you remove one, I would remove the other one too. Otherwise on side of the screen will experience more friction, what can't be good for the ballance.
I knew you lot would get all double entendrey with that post. For the record, I've been playing with it lots all over the weekend and it's not got any softer. Still nice and firm.
Don't. Just don't.
My last two refurbed DROIDs and my DROID2 have had the blue application tab for the screen glider sticker left on. Why is this? Ive just been getting a sharp knife and cutting them off. Is moto just getting lazy with all their device success?
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My last two refurbed DROIDs and my DROID2 have had the blue application tab for the screen glider sticker left on. Why is this? Ive just been getting a sharp knife and cutting them off. Is moto just getting lazy with all their device success?
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The blue tab is to allow you to easily pull off the plastic sticker on the back of the screen; they put the plastic there for shipping and packing. Since you cut off the blue tab, it is harder to pull it off; though, the plastic sticker won't hurt the phone, so no big deal either way.
i left it on to keep the slide tight
My initial DROID 1s all had that sticker. Not sure how much it makes the slider tighter by, but it certainly does it's job eliminating metal on metal friction. Like a lubricating / pressure sticker. I don't think its supposed to be removed at all.
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My initial DROID 1s all had that sticker. Not sure how much it makes the slider tighter by, but it certainly does it's job eliminating metal on metal friction. Like a lubricating / pressure sticker. I don't think its supposed to be removed at all.
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it IS supposed to be removed and it's not providing the "lube" effect that you're noticing. check back to a few sites that have actually dismantled a DROID. the sliding mechanism is where the two slots are on the back of the screen.
there are only two objects sliding against the plastic:
the locking mechanism
and the data ribbon
the backing is meant to be removed and provides no protection or benefit.
I'd like to see some form of proof because I can easily argue this.
There are very clearly on both the droid2 and droid1 two pair of wear marks right across this sticker. Plus the last refurb droid I got has the sticker with no blue tab.
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I'd like to see some form of proof because I can easily argue this.
There are very clearly on both the droid2 and droid1 two pair of wear marks right across this sticker. Plus the last refurb droid I got has the sticker with no blue tab.
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i've replaced my backing with a vinyl sticker. the two wear marks are the spring locks that keep your keyboard closed. nothing else. the D2 is constructed identical to the D1 in that regard.
FWIW,
Every single time I have removed the sticker on the back, I ran into two things. Number one, it leaves it sticky. Number two, it makes it near impossible to open the phone quickly. Maybe cleaning it etc.. would fix that problem, but i'd rather just leave it alone.
I've seen a few phones with blue tab stickers, some with two pieces of black tape covering the area.
Hero77 said:
FWIW,
Every single time I have removed the sticker on the back, I ran into two things. Number one, it leaves it sticky. Number two, it makes it near impossible to open the phone quickly. Maybe cleaning it etc.. would fix that problem, but i'd rather just leave it alone.
I've seen a few phones with blue tab stickers, some with two pieces of black tape covering the area.
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My girlfriend has an R2D2 Droid2, her's was the only one of the 4 Droid2's I've personally seen with anything left on it, and even so just 1 aclohol wipe out of a box I got at a drug store cleaned it off
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My last two refurbed DROIDs and my DROID2 have had the blue application tab for the screen glider sticker left on. Why is this? Ive just been getting a sharp knife and cutting them off. Is moto just getting lazy with all their device success?
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Yeah that thing isn't supposed to be there.
My Droid and Droid 2 were just as tight after taking it off... and 6 months later (well just got the Droid 2 so just the Droid on that part )
I actually think they are supposed to be there. I have two pieces of tape and this is my fourth droid 2. The first one without the tape actually had the sliding mechanism leave marks on the backing of the phone where it slides up and down and is hideous. The tape reduces the contact with the back and" absorbs " some of the blow. Im glad I got the two pieces of tape instead of the blue lining because its more pleasing to the eye.
Also it seems more snug and smoother with the tape.
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Have any of you EVER purchased ANYTHING electronic? The pieces of plastic with the blue tabs are just there for protection from scratches by anyone OTHER than the customer. The blue tab is there so you can pull that TEMPORARY plastic piece off.
Its the same as that plastic thats on the main screen (you know the one that you probably pulled off?) that tells you what each of the little buttons do.
This is the most pointless topic ever, Lol.
Just compared to my old droid 2. The droid 2 has scratches where the sliding mechanism is and my new droid 2 which I have had for a couple months does not have any scratches as I have left the blue tape still there.
LOL...the blue tab is there so you can pull the plastic off. seriously?..is this topic really real?
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I actually think they are supposed to be there. I have two pieces of tape and this is my fourth droid 2. The first one without the tape actually had the sliding mechanism leave marks on the backing of the phone where it slides up and down and is hideous. The tape reduces the contact with the back and" absorbs " some of the blow. Im glad I got the two pieces of tape instead of the blue lining because its more pleasing to the eye.
Also it seems more snug and smoother with the tape.
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if you guys think that the tape is really making that big of a difference, buy a vinyl from here:
http://www.grfxpstore.com/store/search/results?search_query=droid
that tape is made to come off, why do you think it bubbles up? it's not meant to be permanent and it's NOT the sliding mechanism leaving marks, it's the LOCKING mechanism. there are two little tabs that rest in slots at the top of the screen when the keyboard is closed, to help keep the screen from opening (although it does a piss-poor job). you can clearly see the path (scratches) from those tabs leading right to the slots at the top.
there are x-rays and tear-downs of the DROID 1 (same design/functionality as the 2). the sliding mechanism is located in the slots on the edge of teh screen.
Hi,
Got my phone repaired for an SDS freezing problem and seems to be working well. I have noticed now that there is a larger gap at the top of the phone between the screen and the bezel. It must have been caused as they replaced the mb. You can actually push the bezel down and feel it click into place but then it pops up slightly on release.
I admit I have got slight ocd when it comes to phones but this is going to collect dust and will annoy me.
I have seen how you can remove the bezel but were thinking has anyone fixed the gap by removing and refitting the bezel or shall i just live with it?
Cheers
Paul
After about a few days of owning this phone, I noticed that I have a gap between the glass and the top rim of my phone. I'm really noticing it now more than before because of the amount of dust that is building up. The gap isn't on any of the other three edges. Does anybody else have this issue?
I don't have a good way to snap a picture of my phone right now but it's really similar to this guy: http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperia-Z1-Compact/Z1c-Screen-Issues/td-p/704223
Not much response to his questions, which is why I'm asking.
I too have the similar issue. But, If you look close enough(at right light), you can see the dust at the bottom gap as well. This dust doesn't seem to go even after a swim/wash. And this dust thing does bother me a lot sometimes.
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I too have the similar issue. But, If you look close enough(at right light), you can see the dust at the bottom gap as well. This dust doesn't seem to go even after a swim/wash. And this dust thing does bother me a lot sometimes.
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I don't have any dust at the bottom since there isn't a gap. The top gap is about .75mm wide. Not huge by any means but big enough to notice. I almost feel it would be better if it were even all the way around. Dust on only one edge looks more obvious to me.
The GPEL screen protector is fantastic! No dot matrix, full adhesive, comes with 2, affordable, case friendly & no Halo affect.
The black border is just a tad too big, so you lose a row of pixels..
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07D1CG8QY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_MQYCBbYM79AP7
Thanks for sharing the review!
Hello,
Does the black line cut from the sides of the screen ? Or the bottom ?
Thank you !
Al3xxxinho said:
Hello,
Does the black line cut from the sides of the screen ? Or the bottom ?
Thank you !
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I currently have this protector, as stated in the OP it cuts off a little on all sides and is it a bit crooked. I have plans to review another screen protector (might be the one) in a new thread soon
So, anyone that sells this internationally for less than 15usd for shipping?
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I currently have this protector, as stated in the OP it cuts off a little on all sides and is it a bit crooked. I have plans to review another screen protector (might be the one) in a new thread soon
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Care to share which one? I just picked up a g7 yesterday, have a SUPCASE UB Pro on order, want to pull the included plastic shield, put on glass.
The gpel sounds good, but I'm interested in seeing what else looks solid. (Not interested in going to the $50 dome glass.)
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markfm said:
Care to share which one? I just picked up a g7 yesterday, have a SUPCASE UB Pro on order, want to pull the included plastic shield, put on glass.
The gpel sounds good, but I'm interested in seeing what else looks solid. (Not interested in going to the $50 dome glass.)
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I have 2 g7s one with gpel and dome glass. Do you want a side by side comparsion picture. Either is perfect and has flaws
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I have 2 g7s one with gpel and dome glass. Do you want a side by side comparsion picture. Either is perfect and has flaws
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Sure, thanks!
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Dome is on the left and GPEL is on the right
Dome - doesn't affect the sensors but it's smaller than the actual display. It's a bit too short on the left and right sides. This causes light bleed on the edge of the screen protector. Dust magnet but less likely to have bubbles
GPEL - affects sensors and black borders cut off display and is especially noticeable when watching YouTube videos in full screen pinch. Bubbles can happen
8bitbang said:
Dome is on the left and GPEL is on the right
Dome - doesn't affect the sensors but it's smaller than the actual display. It's a bit too short on the left and right sides. This causes light bleed on the edge of the screen protector. Dust magnet but less likely to have bubbles
GPEL - affects sensors and black borders cut off display and is especially noticeable when watching YouTube videos in full screen pinch. Bubbles can happen
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What are the sensor impacts from using the gpel?
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What are the sensor impacts from using the gpel?
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It can cause the display to dim and sometimes turn off like when you raise your phone to answer a call. To be fair all full cover screen protectors are suffering for this flaw. Even OtterBox is getting massive hate for their version and is temporary unavailable.
Just to let you guys know,
You will NOT have the "notch" border pixel line problem if you perfectly align the holes at the top with the sensors, but with a catch: you have to align it with the sensor being more towards the bottom than dead center. My very first screen protector had it more towards the top (basically, the entire protector aligned downwards 1mm, which made the notch very prominent). Then I wasted two more trying to make it bottom aligned. (edit). That fixes the sensor problem and the pixel problem at the top with the notch, unless you are looking down at the phone from above the phone (and who the hell does that?). Unfortunately, perfect alignment is expensive and will cost you several screen protectors since you have to deal with lifting and replanting as well as small nudging WHILE you are in a steamy bathroom hoping for no dust hairs to drop on something. Took me three of them to get it perfect. But I got perfect and I'm pleased.
The left and right sides black bars aren't a problem; the missing pixel line can always be seen by looking to the side of the phone. Just remember to focus on aligning the TOP first (edit) align the ridged sensor so it's almost touching the bottom cutout) and then pressing the top down, then the middle. That's the hard part. This will also cause a few air bubbles on the sides, which means you will have to carefully lift the edges and press outwards to reapply again, and make very sure your fingernails are spotless. That is going to be the risk of dust getting in there, so be careful. Get it perfect then everything will make you happy.
The results are worth it.
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Just to let you guys know,
You will NOT have the "notch" border pixel line problem if you perfectly align the holes at the top with the sensors. That fixes the sensor problem and the pixel problem at the top with the notch, unless you are looking down at the phone from above the phone (and who the hell does that?). Unfortunately, perfect alignment is expensive and will cost you several screen protectors since you have to deal with lifting and replanting as well as small nudging WHILE you are in a steamy bathroom hoping for no dust hairs to drop on something. Took me three of them to get it perfect. But I got perfect and I'm pleased.
The left and right sides black bars aren't a problem; the missing pixel line can always be seen by looking to the side of the phone. Just remember to focus on aligning the TOP first and then pressing the top down, then the middle. That's the hard part. This will also cause a few air bubbles on the sides, which means you will have to carefully lift the edges and press outwards to reapply again, and make very sure your fingernails are spotless. That is going to be the risk of dust getting in there, so be careful. Get it perfect then everything will make you happy.
The results are worth it.
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Where's your proof? Both the OP and me have reported information (with evidence mind you) that contradicts your statements.
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Where's your proof? Both the OP and me have reported information (with evidence mind you) that contradicts your statements.
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My proof is me owning the phone and going through 4 GPEL screen protectors before I got it perfect. I paid my dues. And as someone disabled and on SSI and with a fixed income, I don't have money to go through infinite screen protectors, unlike some of you people here.
The trick is to align the "ridged" sensor so that it's (edit: just looked at my phone: the hole aligned at the -bottom- of the ridged sensor, rather than dead center! but not blocked by the edge of the screen protector), sensor bottom aligned and then after that, making sure all the sides are perfectly straight when applying (a LOT harder than you think, even in a steamy shower, because I'm in an old apartment). Took me 4 protectors and cost me over $30 dollars. (air bubbles and dust from me constantly having to re-lift to get the orientation perfect and eventually dust getting under the edges, and I have OCD so I want nothing less than perfection). Might even give GPEL an email and see if they'll send me an extra sample for my troubles. And no, I have no way to take a picture of the phone screen for you.
I forgot that I had it 'bottom' side sensor aligned rather than mid sensor aligned because I spent over 30 minutes in the shower sweating and uncomfortable wasting screen protectors trying to get rid of the notch line and getting it on with air bubbles. I was extremely stressed out, and it's difficult for someone with a metal bar in their spine to have to work that hard. Needless to say the fourth protector (thank god) I got absolutely perfect.
If it's dead center yes you will have a pixel row of the notch visible. So you have to 'raise' the protector upwards by that same pixel space. There's enough cutout to work with to make that work.
This is no problem because the very *BOTTOM* of the phone isn't used by the display (since this is an IPS display; someone mentioned this in a review, compared to OLED), unlike the top, so you have like 1mm of extra room to work with for the cutout (as long as the top sensor isn't blocked by the bottom edge of the protector). The black border at the bottom won't interfere with anything (checked with a screen test in the service menu).
I'll -try- to upload a picture of the phone with my laptop's built in camera if I can later on, but please don't be upset if you don't like the quality. My laptop isn't high definition and isn't made for such precise pictures. 720p isn't going to work very well.
@Falkentyne - thanks for the explanation.
It sounds like the critical part is where the protector is relative to the front mounted speaker (towards the right edge of the notch) front mounted camera (center of the notch), mystery circle to the left of the camera, and tiny notification led circle furthest to the left side of the notch?
If a photo of your own screen is hard to get, I've attached a photo, the top part of the g7 screen. Maybe draw a line showing where the gpel edge needs to be (outside edge of the line = outside edge of the gpel).
This is the best I could do.
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@Falkentyne - thanks for the explanation.
It sounds like the critical part is where the protector is relative to the front mounted speaker (towards the right edge of the notch) front mounted camera (center of the notch), mystery circle to the left of the camera, and tiny notification led circle furthest to the left side of the notch?
If a photo of your own screen is hard to get, I've attached a photo, the top part of the g7 screen. Maybe draw a line showing where the gpel edge needs to be (outside edge of the line = outside edge of the gpel).
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In your picture, move the screen protector UP about 1mm upwards so the bottom is where the red line is.
This will leave about 1mm of 'extra' space above the sensor area (whatever that thing is, sensor, microphone, I don't know). But it will still fit fully into the enclosure.
Took me 4 screen protectors to do this AND have no spare dust hairs from all the relifting !
Perfect thanks!
Just over the bottom edge of the front speaker (the oval on the right with the grid pattern).
I just got my gpel protectors in today, will give it a try tomorrow.
I installed it following your suggestion, it seems to be working fine. Thanks for the info!
markfm said:
I installed it following your suggestion, it seems to be working fine. Thanks for the info!
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Glad you got it working and got the results you wanted.
It's good that the cutout is slightly larger than the speaker(and sensor/camera) itself, but bad that people won't know about this without experimentation (or somehow coming across the posts here).