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Touch Pro 2 with an invisble sheild

Hey guys,
I wonder if you noticed that the back of your device has some kind of invisle sheild applied on it.
Take a close look next to the volume keys
Also, in the back of the lcd, as well as around the keyboard, to avoid scratches between the lcd and the keyboard when sliding
I wonder if all this shielding is a "lifetime shielding" or if it was applied only for transport reasons...
HastaSSSS

good find, not sure how long much they are supposed to protect.
the only 1 found apart from on the screen was the 1 behind it.

Nobody else found it? Or did you guys just rip it off?
HastaSSSS

Oh damn I didn't see it))) I won't rip it off... I'll wait until first fall or etc. .... so I can take it off)

It's a nice protection against the sliding of the screen. I guess after a while the screen get looser and the sliding doesn't scratch the plastic?

Think so to.
Man that you spottet the protection at the volume buttons :O o also see it now. Is it plastic that i can pull off or is it a solid kind of protection that isn't removable?

OH CRAP I took them off
I thought they were meant to be taken off like those that sticks on your LCD monitors ARGH.. can see a few scratches due to the keyboard slides

michaelra said:
OH CRAP I took them off
I thought they were meant to be taken off like those that sticks on your LCD monitors ARGH.. can see a few scratches due to the keyboard slides
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What about the plastic on the back of the device? near the volume buttons? can you also take that off or is that some kind of protection that you cant take off?

yes, i also saw that, and i also saw something like this on the hardware keyboard, have a look. you guys should see the same

They are already peeling off on mine (around the keyboard at least), and only after 3 days

The protections on 1 side of the keyboard came of when sliding it open a few times. The rest is still in place and I'll leave them there till they start to peel.

I took the 3 off the keyboard off, they didn't look like they were supposed to be permanent as they came off easy.
Can see the one on the back, anyone take this off?

I noticed the ones around the kedyboard, but not the one on the back.
The piece tol the right of my keyboard had peeled already, but I'll leave the others to stay or peel off through use.

Keyboard glide protector came off - what to do?

Hi all,
Just day ago baught TP2 and it's great. but today got in problem.
there are invisible glide protectors on side of keyboard, and from one side this protector came off - and now every time I open it, it's more and more coming off.
so what you think? is it possible to get new them somewhere? or it's sefe just to remove them? all of you have the same at their phones?

test157 said:
Hi all,
Just day ago baught TP2 and it's great. but today got in problem.
there are invisible glide protectors on side of keyboard, and from one side this protector came off - and now every time I open it, it's more and more coming off.
so what you think? is it possible to get new them somewhere? or it's sefe just to remove them? all of you have the same at their phones?
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That is the normal protectors installed from factory, during manufacturing for product quality reasons. I admit that they really protect the plastic from getting scratched. But as mentioned in the manual, you should remove it from the phone itself (both glide stickers, the upper sticker in the keyboard, near the hidges, the back screen cover sticker and the front sticker protecting the screen). To substitute, I must say that problably you should cut some plastic clear sticker (same used to protect book covers) with the size and format of the sticker removed and attached in the glide sections to protect it from scratches of opening and closing the keyboard.

thank you very much for your info.
but can you say me where exactly did you find info about removing this protectors? I just looked in manual what was on CD with my phone for word "protect" and not found any info about that.
and yes, I saw that those protectors had scratches, they were noticeable - but with time they will become more and more visible (more scratches, dirt around them e.t.c) + I don't think I can cut them so accurate as they were...
so all owners of T2? did you remove these protectors? did you got there scratches after removing them?
P.S.: Black Phoenix you leaved your protectors also? just on keyboard?

test157 said:
thank you very much for your info.
but can you say me where exactly did you find info about removing this protectors? I just looked in manual what was on CD with my phone for word "protect" and not found any info about that.
and yes, I saw that those protectors had scratches, they were noticeable - but with time they will become more and more visible (more scratches, dirt around them e.t.c) + I don't think I can cut them so accurate as they were...
so all owners of T2? did you remove these protectors? did you got there scratches after removing them?
P.S.: Black Phoenix you leaved your protectors also? just on keyboard?
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At the moment I have all the protectors, because I'm waiting for my Screen Protector from Proporta. The others in the keyboard I will keep, mainly because I bought a phone with the keyboard but I only use the screen one, not the physical one (so If I had open the keyboard 10 times since I had the phone was too much).

If it is a clear sticker than obviously you remove it once it wears out and live with it....

yep, I got it. but hope to hear from other owners who already removed them, what experince they got - any scratches or nope?

Mine is sliding off on the left side only. I was just going to slice off the part that is crinkling up and keep the rest of it on. I don't want to find out if it will get scratched or not.

I removed the ones on the sides as i knew they were merely their from the factory and not actually their to protect during use. I dont have any scratches on the keyboard.
The back one, under the middle of the screen i havent removed because it looks like it would be too much of a pain to try. So im just waiting till it starts to come off on its own.

if you're concerned about being able to cut them as precise as the originals just use an exacto knife. Just put the plastic piece over the plastic you will use to replace it and trace it with the knife.

i just cut off the tips on both sides as it was crinkling up, kept the rest of it

Lyian said:
I removed the ones on the sides as i knew they were merely their from the factory and not actually their to protect during use. I dont have any scratches on the keyboard.
The back one, under the middle of the screen i havent removed because it looks like it would be too much of a pain to try. So im just waiting till it starts to come off on its own.
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how long you are useing it without stickers? and how offten do you open hw keyboard?

test157 said:
how long you are useing it without stickers? and how offten do you open hw keyboard?
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just rip it off and live with it dude... I took the film cover off of my Xperia and nothing happened to my keys. If you are worried about the glossy back scratching than you obviously have too little things to worry about.
And if you are that person than obviously you can afford a second one because taking it off won't damage any phone.

poetryrocksalot said:
just rip it off and live with it dude... I took the film cover off of my Xperia and nothing happened to my keys. If you are worried about the glossy back scratching than you obviously have too little things to worry about.
And if you are that person than obviously you can afford a second one because taking it off won't damage any phone.
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well if really, I don't worry about back side scratches and about other minor things all I see now it's two stickers what are located on the left and right sides from the keyboard (i don't see so space in xperia), this space is used for gliding - so every time you are opening keyboard, two small stands from the back of the screen sliding in this area, where these stickers are - and after two days of using this device - this stickers are pretty scratched. so I decided to ask, if it's safely to remove or it's they needed to be replaced and seems like I'll finish by removing them both.
but anyway other owners experience is welcome

test157 said:
well if really, I don't worry about back side scratches and about other minor things all I see now it's two stickers what are located on the left and right sides from the keyboard (i don't see so space in xperia), this space is used for gliding - so every time you are opening keyboard, two small stands from the back of the screen sliding in this area, where these stickers are - and after two days of using this device - this stickers are pretty scratched. so I decided to ask, if it's safely to remove or it's they needed to be replaced and seems like I'll finish by removing them both.
but anyway other owners experience is welcome
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Just like I said........ the back side get's scratched....
unless you are talking about the sticker that is most likely found on the bottom half (the half that is on the same plane as the keyboard).
If so, then I hope it only scratches everything but the qwerty keys.

test157 said:
how long you are useing it without stickers? and how offten do you open hw keyboard?
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I took it off within a couple days, cause thats when i noticed they were even there lol. Its hard to say how often i open it. I generally text with the keyboard all the time (vs using the on screen one). Some days ill send 4 or 5 text messages, some i wont send any.
I dont think any of us has really had it long enough to even accumulate scratches from simple wear and tear. What you have to realize is that plastic film, is the same kind they wrap EVERYTHING up with. It was on my 46" LCD (the frame i mean) as well as both of my 19" monitors (also the frames). They wrap electronics up in that crap to keep it from getting scratched during manufacturing and shipping, but it rarly ever looks good left on.
My point? it isnt meant for long term protection. Just rip it off and run with it. The plastic housing is the same material/texture as what they use on laptops (least on mine) so it will take the wear and tear. I suspect over time it will develop 'slide' marks on it, but it wont take anything away from the device itself.

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yep thank you, now i c that it's the one right decision, just to remove them
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I'am sure that we are talking about the same things but anyway I attached photo to this post, with marked RED scratches on the sticker, and marked in BLUE came off part of this sticker.
all my previous HTC phones herlad and wizard had special sliders - where the display glides, here it glides on the viewable area and it don't seems really very scratch resistance, so it's confused me.

the protector at the middle top of the keyboard, and the one behind the screen
i wonder whether sliding is affected by the 2 protectors?

I had 4 protectors: screen protector, behind screen one, and two at keyboard - on it's sides (on of them you can see on my photo), so while gliding only these 2 protectors are affected.

i removed the small one at the middle top of the keyboard
now the sliding is smoother!
i am left with the one behind the screen... should i remove..?

ok... i removed the one at the back
and now the sliding action is super smooth

Display loose

Hi guys
Can you check curved edges part of display near top and bottom portion to see when pressed with little pressure whether screen goes down ? Especially near front facing camera .
Thank You

Checked near the front camera area and yes ,the screen goes down a little upon pressing in the edges with little pressure.

raserdude said:
Hi guys
Can you check curved edges part of display near top and bottom portion to see when pressed with little pressure whether screen goes down ? Especially near front facing camera .
Thank You
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Mine as well.

@Yash24 , @tiberiuharcsa thanks guys for confirming regarding this issue.

Have it, too. But no problem. Seems to be normal.

allrightlite said:
Have it, too. But no problem. Seems to be normal.
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Well I would't call a loose and slightly moving screen something normal...

tiberiuharcsa said:
Well I would't call a loose and slightly moving screen something normal...
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And what is to do now? Maybe all Z Plays have this. You must look very critical to see this "issue". For me it's ok. There is no 100% perfect phone.
But is the issue bigger, then I would call the support.

allrightlite said:
And what is to do now? Maybe all Z Plays have this. You must look very critical to see this "issue". For me it's ok. There is no 100% perfect phone.
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I agree, it's not a major issue, I was thinking to take of the screen completley and reglue it using some duble sided tape... But there is a risk of breaking the screen in the proces... It's not worth it

What about putting duck tape across top and bottom of the screen? Don't forget to make holes for loudspeaker, front camera and proximity sensor. And for microphone and fingerprint at bottom
So, you're all saying that tbe whole screen is moving a bit in the case? Check teardown and you'll see that is actually glued. Not my favorite solution but I suppose is cost effective.
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Zeljko1234 said:
What about putting duck tape across top and bottom of the screen? Don't forget to make holes for loudspeaker, front camera and proximity sensor. And for microphone and fingerprint at bottom
So, you're all saying that tbe whole screen is moving a bit in the case? Check teardown and you'll see that is actually glued. Not my favorite solution but I suppose is cost effective.
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Yah it's glued and very liberally glued at the top and the bottom of the screen. How do I know? Broke my screen a few months ago and replaced my screen myself.

flashallthetime said:
Yah it's glued and very liberally glued at the top and the bottom of the screen. How do I know? Broke my screen a few months ago and replaced my screen myself.
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That's good news, actually. I've watched some tear down videos and guy was heating screen before trying to take it off.
From where and for how much you got replacement?

Zeljko1234 said:
That's good news, actually. I've watched some tear down videos and guy was heating screen before trying to take it off.
From where and for how much you got replacement?
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Bought a screen off eBay, yes you need to heat up the glue underneath the screen with a heat gun.
Got the new screen in after I had to remove all the small piece of glass that was still glued but it's not an easy repair and I still have screen issues I assume the screen isn't the same quality as the original one which comes with a silver backing plate.
In bright sunlight my screen turns blue

The battery maybe will never die, because a bigger LiPo much longer live as a small one and we just load again all 2 or 3 days. So that's ok that's build in. Maybe the screen is much earlier broken. Hope it doesn't broke
My battery has 3600mAh(3597)

flashallthetime said:
Bought a screen off eBay, yes you need to heat up the glue underneath the screen with a heat gun.
Got the new screen in after I had to remove all the small piece of glass that was still glued but it's not an easy repair and I still have screen issues I assume the screen isn't the same quality as the original one which comes with a silver backing plate.
In bright sunlight my screen turns blue
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So Moto should make it even less glued for easy repair
Btw, you forgot the price

Zeljko1234 said:
So Moto should make it even less glued for easy repair
Btw, you forgot the price
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175 Canadian labour free because I did the repair.
No moto shouldn't use any less glue, just don't drop your phone is my advise

flashallthetime said:
175 Canadian labour free because I did the repair.
No moto shouldn't use any less glue, just don't drop your phone is my advise
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I don't think that anyone is planning to drop the phone. Except maybe Turbo 2/Force.
https://youtu.be/fTJOL5ikuZA
Ironically, mine got green lines literally sitting on the desk.

I can confirm my phone has the same problem near the top left corner. It is so disappointing to see such a bad build quality.

If you observe carefully just above volume up button screen is not even inside the aluminum frame there is slight gap. And if you apply little pressure screen goes down. Is this normal ?

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If you observe carefully just above volume up button screen is not even inside the aluminum frame there is slight gap. And if you apply little pressure screen goes down. Is this normal ?
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Yes, normal. Maybe it's make easier to get the sceen away to replace the battery. Normally you can't see this. You must really look exactly

allrightlite said:
Yes, normal. Maybe it's make easier to get the sceen away to replace the battery. Normally you can't see this. You must really look exactly
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One more feature discovered

[Review] GPEL Tempered glass

The GPEL screen protector is fantastic! No dot matrix, full adhesive, comes with 2, affordable, case friendly & no Halo affect.
The black border is just a tad too big, so you lose a row of pixels..
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07D1CG8QY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_MQYCBbYM79AP7

Thanks for sharing the review!

Hello,
Does the black line cut from the sides of the screen ? Or the bottom ?
Thank you !

Al3xxxinho said:
Hello,
Does the black line cut from the sides of the screen ? Or the bottom ?
Thank you !
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I currently have this protector, as stated in the OP it cuts off a little on all sides and is it a bit crooked. I have plans to review another screen protector (might be the one) in a new thread soon

So, anyone that sells this internationally for less than 15usd for shipping?

8bitbang said:
I currently have this protector, as stated in the OP it cuts off a little on all sides and is it a bit crooked. I have plans to review another screen protector (might be the one) in a new thread soon
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Care to share which one? I just picked up a g7 yesterday, have a SUPCASE UB Pro on order, want to pull the included plastic shield, put on glass.
The gpel sounds good, but I'm interested in seeing what else looks solid. (Not interested in going to the $50 dome glass.)
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markfm said:
Care to share which one? I just picked up a g7 yesterday, have a SUPCASE UB Pro on order, want to pull the included plastic shield, put on glass.
The gpel sounds good, but I'm interested in seeing what else looks solid. (Not interested in going to the $50 dome glass.)
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I have 2 g7s one with gpel and dome glass. Do you want a side by side comparsion picture. Either is perfect and has flaws

8bitbang said:
I have 2 g7s one with gpel and dome glass. Do you want a side by side comparsion picture. Either is perfect and has flaws
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Sure, thanks!
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Dome is on the left and GPEL is on the right
Dome - doesn't affect the sensors but it's smaller than the actual display. It's a bit too short on the left and right sides. This causes light bleed on the edge of the screen protector. Dust magnet but less likely to have bubbles
GPEL - affects sensors and black borders cut off display and is especially noticeable when watching YouTube videos in full screen pinch. Bubbles can happen

8bitbang said:
Dome is on the left and GPEL is on the right
Dome - doesn't affect the sensors but it's smaller than the actual display. It's a bit too short on the left and right sides. This causes light bleed on the edge of the screen protector. Dust magnet but less likely to have bubbles
GPEL - affects sensors and black borders cut off display and is especially noticeable when watching YouTube videos in full screen pinch. Bubbles can happen
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What are the sensor impacts from using the gpel?
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markfm said:
What are the sensor impacts from using the gpel?
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It can cause the display to dim and sometimes turn off like when you raise your phone to answer a call. To be fair all full cover screen protectors are suffering for this flaw. Even OtterBox is getting massive hate for their version and is temporary unavailable.

Just to let you guys know,
You will NOT have the "notch" border pixel line problem if you perfectly align the holes at the top with the sensors, but with a catch: you have to align it with the sensor being more towards the bottom than dead center. My very first screen protector had it more towards the top (basically, the entire protector aligned downwards 1mm, which made the notch very prominent). Then I wasted two more trying to make it bottom aligned. (edit). That fixes the sensor problem and the pixel problem at the top with the notch, unless you are looking down at the phone from above the phone (and who the hell does that?). Unfortunately, perfect alignment is expensive and will cost you several screen protectors since you have to deal with lifting and replanting as well as small nudging WHILE you are in a steamy bathroom hoping for no dust hairs to drop on something. Took me three of them to get it perfect. But I got perfect and I'm pleased.
The left and right sides black bars aren't a problem; the missing pixel line can always be seen by looking to the side of the phone. Just remember to focus on aligning the TOP first (edit) align the ridged sensor so it's almost touching the bottom cutout) and then pressing the top down, then the middle. That's the hard part. This will also cause a few air bubbles on the sides, which means you will have to carefully lift the edges and press outwards to reapply again, and make very sure your fingernails are spotless. That is going to be the risk of dust getting in there, so be careful. Get it perfect then everything will make you happy.
The results are worth it.

Falkentyne said:
Just to let you guys know,
You will NOT have the "notch" border pixel line problem if you perfectly align the holes at the top with the sensors. That fixes the sensor problem and the pixel problem at the top with the notch, unless you are looking down at the phone from above the phone (and who the hell does that?). Unfortunately, perfect alignment is expensive and will cost you several screen protectors since you have to deal with lifting and replanting as well as small nudging WHILE you are in a steamy bathroom hoping for no dust hairs to drop on something. Took me three of them to get it perfect. But I got perfect and I'm pleased.
The left and right sides black bars aren't a problem; the missing pixel line can always be seen by looking to the side of the phone. Just remember to focus on aligning the TOP first and then pressing the top down, then the middle. That's the hard part. This will also cause a few air bubbles on the sides, which means you will have to carefully lift the edges and press outwards to reapply again, and make very sure your fingernails are spotless. That is going to be the risk of dust getting in there, so be careful. Get it perfect then everything will make you happy.
The results are worth it.
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Where's your proof? Both the OP and me have reported information (with evidence mind you) that contradicts your statements.

8bitbang said:
Where's your proof? Both the OP and me have reported information (with evidence mind you) that contradicts your statements.
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My proof is me owning the phone and going through 4 GPEL screen protectors before I got it perfect. I paid my dues. And as someone disabled and on SSI and with a fixed income, I don't have money to go through infinite screen protectors, unlike some of you people here.
The trick is to align the "ridged" sensor so that it's (edit: just looked at my phone: the hole aligned at the -bottom- of the ridged sensor, rather than dead center! but not blocked by the edge of the screen protector), sensor bottom aligned and then after that, making sure all the sides are perfectly straight when applying (a LOT harder than you think, even in a steamy shower, because I'm in an old apartment). Took me 4 protectors and cost me over $30 dollars. (air bubbles and dust from me constantly having to re-lift to get the orientation perfect and eventually dust getting under the edges, and I have OCD so I want nothing less than perfection). Might even give GPEL an email and see if they'll send me an extra sample for my troubles. And no, I have no way to take a picture of the phone screen for you.
I forgot that I had it 'bottom' side sensor aligned rather than mid sensor aligned because I spent over 30 minutes in the shower sweating and uncomfortable wasting screen protectors trying to get rid of the notch line and getting it on with air bubbles. I was extremely stressed out, and it's difficult for someone with a metal bar in their spine to have to work that hard. Needless to say the fourth protector (thank god) I got absolutely perfect.
If it's dead center yes you will have a pixel row of the notch visible. So you have to 'raise' the protector upwards by that same pixel space. There's enough cutout to work with to make that work.
This is no problem because the very *BOTTOM* of the phone isn't used by the display (since this is an IPS display; someone mentioned this in a review, compared to OLED), unlike the top, so you have like 1mm of extra room to work with for the cutout (as long as the top sensor isn't blocked by the bottom edge of the protector). The black border at the bottom won't interfere with anything (checked with a screen test in the service menu).
I'll -try- to upload a picture of the phone with my laptop's built in camera if I can later on, but please don't be upset if you don't like the quality. My laptop isn't high definition and isn't made for such precise pictures. 720p isn't going to work very well.

@Falkentyne - thanks for the explanation.
It sounds like the critical part is where the protector is relative to the front mounted speaker (towards the right edge of the notch) front mounted camera (center of the notch), mystery circle to the left of the camera, and tiny notification led circle furthest to the left side of the notch?
If a photo of your own screen is hard to get, I've attached a photo, the top part of the g7 screen. Maybe draw a line showing where the gpel edge needs to be (outside edge of the line = outside edge of the gpel).

This is the best I could do.

markfm said:
@Falkentyne - thanks for the explanation.
It sounds like the critical part is where the protector is relative to the front mounted speaker (towards the right edge of the notch) front mounted camera (center of the notch), mystery circle to the left of the camera, and tiny notification led circle furthest to the left side of the notch?
If a photo of your own screen is hard to get, I've attached a photo, the top part of the g7 screen. Maybe draw a line showing where the gpel edge needs to be (outside edge of the line = outside edge of the gpel).
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In your picture, move the screen protector UP about 1mm upwards so the bottom is where the red line is.
This will leave about 1mm of 'extra' space above the sensor area (whatever that thing is, sensor, microphone, I don't know). But it will still fit fully into the enclosure.
Took me 4 screen protectors to do this AND have no spare dust hairs from all the relifting !

Perfect thanks!
Just over the bottom edge of the front speaker (the oval on the right with the grid pattern).
I just got my gpel protectors in today, will give it a try tomorrow.

I installed it following your suggestion, it seems to be working fine. Thanks for the info!

markfm said:
I installed it following your suggestion, it seems to be working fine. Thanks for the info!
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Glad you got it working and got the results you wanted.
It's good that the cutout is slightly larger than the speaker(and sensor/camera) itself, but bad that people won't know about this without experimentation (or somehow coming across the posts here).

Accessories Standing cover with Pen

Got my case today and it's OK, but a couple of gripes. There is zero protection for the hinge. Drop it on edge and no safety net. Given that's kind of the heaviest area when folded seems likely to be what hits the concrete on a drop.
The front cover seems to slide around a bit if you put edge pressure on it.
While wireless charging works with the stand slotted, the pen holder prevents it from getting close enough to charge.
Also a bit too bulky to feel natural in the hip pocket with the pen slotted in, though I expected that. The pen is for travel and meetings so I won't have it attached all the time.
The back of the case shows fingerprints almost as bad as the screens do.
*EDIT* And finally I just noticed - the stand is really only useful when folded and in landscape mode. Otherwise you might as well just lay the phone down it leans back so far.
The gray-green of the case is definitely the color I expected the phone to be, so it's not a match to the phone case gray color, but the phone color is only really visible around the power button.
Sorry for potato photos, the only thing I had handy to shoot with was my Surface Duo 1.0.

cybermage1 said:
Got my case today and it's OK, but a couple of gripes. There is zero protection for the hinge. Drop it on edge and no safety net. Given that's kind of the heaviest area when folded seems likely to be what hits the concrete on a drop.
The front cover seems to slide around a bit if you put edge pressure on it.
While wireless charging works with the stand slotted, the pen holder prevents it from getting close enough to charge.
Also a bit too bulky to feel natural in the hip pocket with the pen slotted in, though I expected that. The pen is for travel and meetings so I won't have it attached all the time.
The back of the case shows fingerprints almost as bad as the screens do.
*EDIT* And finally I just noticed - the stand is really only useful when folded and in landscape mode. Otherwise you might as well just lay the phone down it leans back so far.
The gray-green of the case is definitely the color I expected the phone to be, so it's not a match to the phone case gray color, but the phone color is only really visible around the power button.
Sorry for potato photos, the only thing I had handy to shoot with was my Surface Duo 1.0.
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So as I understand, the colour of the case (Gray green) does not match the colour of the phone (Gray green)?

my front cover keeps flipping of, me no likey

QPR said:
my front cover keeps flipping of, me no likey
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maybe a 2 sided tape will fix it?

eswar539 said:
maybe a 2 sided tape will fix it?
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that sounds like a good thing to try. cheers

QPR said:
that sounds like a good thing to try. cheers
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Get 2mm one. Fits good

I got black in my free note pack with a grey grey phone are they supposed to give you matching?

eswar539 said:
Get 2mm one. Fits good
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I bought some for when I got a replacement fold 3. It's worth it. I could reuse the case.
mattcall said:
I got black in my free note pack with a grey grey phone are they supposed to give you matching?
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I was able to chose the color in the US.

One thing I do like about the pen attachment; when the pen is installed with the phone open and the power and volume buttons ot the top, I can slide the pen out a couple inches and with my left hand I can completely hold the open phone. The pen slides between my middle and pointer fingers and the phone balances while open and is weildable.
Maybe I should add a photo?