Hi all,
like some I've been having poor signal and not entirely sure if it's software or hardware. But I encountered something apple-esque earlier with my one x.
When holding the phone normally, i.e. resting in the palm of my hand with my finger and thumb round, I get around 1 bar, this rises a little outside.
When holding the phone from the speaker with my thumb and index finger, i get nearly full signal! Also by holding the edges at the base of the phone results in improved signal for me.
Can those who have issues try this out and see it it works? If not, I guess it must be my handset.
lol if this is just a death grip issue
twistedh said:
Hi all,
like some I've been having poor signal and not entirely sure if it's software or hardware. But I encountered something apple-esque earlier with my one x.
When holding the phone normally, i.e. resting in the palm of my hand with my finger and thumb round, I get around 1 bar, this rises a little outside.
When holding the phone from the speaker with my thumb and index finger, i get nearly full signal! Also by holding the edges at the base of the phone results in improved signal for me.
Can those who have issues try this out and see it it works? If not, I guess it must be my handset.
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This happens with mine...its the lower left corner that you must avoid covering.
twistedh said:
Hi all,
like some I've been having poor signal and not entirely sure if it's software or hardware. But I encountered something apple-esque earlier with my one x.
When holding the phone normally, i.e. resting in the palm of my hand with my finger and thumb round, I get around 1 bar, this rises a little outside.
When holding the phone from the speaker with my thumb and index finger, i get nearly full signal! Also by holding the edges at the base of the phone results in improved signal for me.
Can those who have issues try this out and see it it works? If not, I guess it must be my handset.
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well i have another problem when i try to call some one the signal drops to none and never go back !
i have to restart to get the signal back
i think it's a hardware problem.
can someone email htc with the problem ?
Now apple will sue HTC for copyright infringement on the signal bug. Sheesh...
Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk
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Basically we all know with the N1 how if you held the bottom of the device with your hand the device would loose 3G signal. Additionally this would cause issues in 3G low signal areas
im just wondering if the Desire suffers from the same issue considering its hardware is near identical to the N1's.
Could someone who has a Desire confirm with us if this happens or have HTC actually fixed the issue
Can't say I have ever experienced that and I use 3g everyday on this thing.
colin_090 said:
Basically we all know with the N1 how if you held the bottom of the device with your hand the device would loose 3G signal. Additionally this would cause issues in 3G low signal areas
im just wondering if the Desire suffers from the same issue considering its hardware is near identical to the N1's.
Could someone who has a Desire confirm with us if this happens or have HTC actually fixed the issue
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Yeah it still happens with the Desire. If you hold it at the bottom in the palm of your hand it quickly loses a large chunk of signal, sometimes going back to GSM.
EroThraX said:
Yeah it still happens with the Desire. If you hold it at the bottom in the palm of your hand it quickly loses a large chunk of signal, sometimes going back to GSM.
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My blackberry bold 2 also lose some signals if i hold at the bottom of the handset. I don't thing its a issue.
As the antenna on the desire is at the bottom it does reduce the signal if you hold it there. The difference is that most phones put the antenna at the top.
scotch whisky said:
As the antenna on the desire is at the bottom it does reduce the signal if you hold it there. The difference is that most phones put the antenna at the top.
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And I don't understand their choice
When I make a call I take the phone at the bottom... I think it's more natural than take it from the top...
Is it to protect the brain against bad radio frequencies ?
Actually, I always take my phone at the bottom... The buttons are at the bottom, the keyboard is on the bottom of the screen... I really don't understand why I should take my phone from the top!!
Big ergonomic issue in my mind. But I probably can live with it...
the phone is being let down big time by this one stupid issue. Why did HTC decide to do this. WHY WHY WHY.
This issue may not affect most people but its nice to know that your signal isnt artificially being shown as less when you know you could get a better signal.
Its not that hard to hold it from the top, I'm already used to it.
Quazar0 said:
Its not that hard to hold it from the top, I'm already used to it.
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And do you can press all buttons and tape on the keyboard with one hand by holding it from the top ?
Hi everyone
I have this problem:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Gu9oKlWq1Y
Anyone know how to solve this problem ?
Just as a disclaimer, every phone will lose signal if you grip it a certain way. Remember the iphone debacle?
But the quick fix is to just put a case on it. Your body will no longer interfere with the antenna and your phone will have the added bonus of surviving a fall.
Sent from my T-mobile G2
Nospin said:
Just as a disclaimer, every phone will lose signal if you grip it a certain way. Remember the iphone debacle?
But the quick fix is to just put a case on it. Your body will no longer interfere with the antenna and your phone will have the added bonus of surviving a fall.
Sent from my T-mobile G2
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Downside is cases tarnish the natural beauty of the phone that the cell phone manufacturers intended. I just take the risk. I would rather have a nice looking phone IMHO.
I already have this one http://www.otterbox.com/HTC-G2-/-HT...C4-G2XXX_color=20&start=1&cgid=desire-z-cases
gripping ANY phone tightly/awkwardly over the antenna will cause loss of signal. Some are worse than others, but it happens to any modern phone with an internal antenna. Cases help, but you're still going to be able to replicate it if you try hard enough. The phones are designed so that the antenna will more than likely not be blocked if you're holding it in any normal conventional way during regular use.
One usual culprit for the G2/DZ is the WiFi signal getting weaker when using the hardware keyboard, because your hands are covering the top and bottom of the device.
so isn't any idea to solve or help a little with this problem ?
kregiel16 said:
so isn't any idea to solve or help a little with this problem ?
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Like I just said, there's nothing you can do other than just don't hold the phone in such a ridiculous way. You can't move the antenna inside the phone, it is where it is.
In normal use I highly doubt you'll ever see drastic signal drop because of the way you hold your phone. Nobody normally holds a phone in the way shown in the video.
So tell me how to play in gameloft games where all of them is in landscape mode
kregiel16 said:
So tell me how to play in gameloft games where all of them is in landscape mode
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like I said, using the phone normally (yes even playing games in landscape) your signal shouldn't drop so low that you will be completely disconnected from the network. Don't get scared just because the bars drop.
But i already play at Order and Chaos and this game are also in landscape mode and unhappily i get lost connection every few minutes ;/ and the game has reconnecting.
kregiel16 said:
But i already play at Order and Chaos and this game are also in landscape mode and unhappily i get lost connection every few minutes ;/ and the game has reconnecting.
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There's nothing I can tell you. The antenna is where it is. If for some reason you're in a low signal area to start and you cover the antenna you're going to see loss of signal.
Tell me if i give back this mobile on warranty then they are able to solve issue ?
kregiel16 said:
Tell me if i give back this mobile on warranty then they are able to solve issue ?
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You're not listening. Every phone has this issue if you hold it in the right place. Its a cell phone with an antenna. Its just going to happen, there's nothing you or the manufacturer can do to "fix" it after the phone has been made.
I acutally thought this was a radio problem. I switched radios and noticed a slight improvement.
riahc3 said:
I acutally thought this was a radio problem. I switched radios and noticed a slight improvement.
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A radio update can help your signal a bit overall, but it will never remove the effect of strategically covering the physical antenna. What it would help with is a default low signal, that gets worsened to the point of disconnection from the network by covering the antenna (aka your normal signal could be higher, so that when it gets lessened it still stays connected).
Holding the superior (top half) part of the phone in the palm of the hand shows drastic drop in wifi signal (tested with dB meter), also visible in wifi icon "lines".
Does this qualify as a death grip and eligible for replacement?
zerozoneice said:
Holding the superior (top half) part of the phone in the palm of the hand shows drastic drop in wifi signal (tested with dB meter), also visible in wifi icon "lines".
Does this qualify as a death grip and eligible for replacement?
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No, that is just you blocking the wifi antenna... Death grip is more of a joke actually, it means if you pinch the top left side of the phone with your hand the connection will cut out (Now why you need to hold that part of your phone closed tight in your hand is a mystery)
Yet, if you can <<Disconnect>> your wifi by holding the top left corner of your phone, you can go for warranty if your phone is still lock...
srashedian said:
No, that is just you blocking the wifi antenna... Death grip is more of a joke actually, it means if you pinch the top left side of the phone with your hand the connection will cut out (Now why you need to hold that part of your phone closed tight in your hand is a mystery)
Yet, if you can <<Disconnect>> your wifi by holding the top left corner of your phone, you can go for warranty if your phone is still lock...
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Yeah I have the same problem as the OP, mine gets to the point where I can get it to go from full signal to absolutely nothing simply buy holding my hand over the camera.
Are you sure this is normal?
I would say you're blocking the wifi signal.
If it was going the other way "death grip" the phone and the signal boosts then you have the wifi problem and would need to contact HTC to get it fixed
bigdirtyjase said:
I would say you're blocking the wifi signal.
If it was going the other way "death grip" the phone and the signal boosts then you have the wifi problem and would need to contact HTC to get it fixed
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So the death grip is actually the life grip
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium
Usexy said:
Yeah I have the same problem as the OP, mine gets to the point where I can get it to go from full signal to absolutely nothing simply buy holding my hand over the camera.
Are you sure this is normal?
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Yes, that is normal (Actually it is not normal by international wifi standards, there is a problem with HOX WiFi antenna, but as this hardware problem is in all HOX devices and even HTC is admitting it, it counts as normal)
Hi there,
I have one X and tried this method and signal drops if i hold (half top) of the phone, but i don't think this can called Death Grip.. i also tried with Sensation and Evo3D, they loose signals like One X.
xhaniGS2 said:
Hi there,
I have one X and tried this method and signal drops if i hold (half top) of the phone, but i don't think this can called Death Grip.. i also tried with Sensation and Evo3D, they loose signals like One X.
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Thanks for the info
Anyone else getting the ghost touch problem?
I couldn't work out what was causing this on my phone so I enabled show touches in the development menu and it shows.
It goes from 2 to 3 spots on the left hand side of the screen.
It's not a major problem but happens at least 3 times a day and won't snap out of it unless I put the phone back into sleep a couple of times.
Do you think maybe scratches on the screen cause this?
TIA
Is your phone connected to a charger when this occurs? It might be it, since im experiencing the same thing since htc desire hd.
miHah said:
Is your phone connected to a charger when this occurs? It might be it, since im experiencing the same thing since htc desire hd.
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No. Can happen at anytime. Quite random.
It takes a few on and offs with the sleep button to stop it.
Can't get off the lock screen until it goes away because I can't move the unlock slider.
Very annoying.
I had the same problem - the first day i got my hox. With and without the charger (with charger a litte bit more often i think).
I pushed the complete left side of the screen (top) carefully and now it works well. No more ghost touches ^^.
\/\/iLLow said:
I had the same problem - the first day i got my hox. With and without the charger (with charger a litte bit more often i think).
I pushed the complete left side of the screen (top) carefully and now it works well. No more ghost touches ^^.
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Ok. Once I pushed around the screen edges, the left side has some play and moves maybe a mm with a slight creak.
I push it in but still that little bit of play on the left side.
It's quite impossible to show the service centre the problem because its so random but now I can show them this.
Cheers.
I hope you'll get a new "perfect" hox and i'll not have the same problem later :fingers-crossed:
Has anyone else noticed that when you hold the HTC 10 without a case in your hand a certain way, your signal drops 1-2 bars and 5dBm or more? I was holding mine this morning one way, adjust my hand, and noticed a huge drop in signal. When I stop holding it the signal jumps up another 1-2 bars. I'm not talking about going from no grip to a death grip, just holding it by it's sides to also holding it up from the bottom seems to cause it.
No
I held mine in every way possible and not even 1 bar dropped. Could it be your location/service? Or defect?
Considering that wireless signal strength isn't static AND unless you're specifically watching the signal DB you can't rely on signal bars I'd not be too worried about it unless we see many users reporting the same thing.
So yes, holding it differently could give the impression of differing signal performance but in reality, unless it's defective it shouldn't be an issue.
Just tried every which way. No issues for me. I have the VZW model if it makes any difference
geoff5093 said:
Has anyone else noticed that when you hold the HTC 10 without a case in your hand a certain way, your signal drops 1-2 bars and 5dBm or more? I was holding mine this morning one way, adjust my hand, and noticed a huge drop in signal. When I stop holding it the signal jumps up another 1-2 bars. I'm not talking about going from no grip to a death grip, just holding it by it's sides to also holding it up from the bottom seems to cause it.
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I picked mine up right now after reading and I gained 2 bars Verizon
I just tried to replicate it and couldn't. Tried a bunch of hand positions. No issues here.
What I experienced earlier was around a -90dBm signal when it was laying flat on a desk, then it jumped up to -110 when I held it a certain wait. I moved my hand around and saw it fluctuate between -105 and -110. I tried it at work and I couldn't replicate it, strange...
geoff5093 said:
What I experienced earlier was around a -90dBm signal when it was laying flat on a desk, then it jumped up to -110 when I held it a certain wait. I moved my hand around and saw it fluctuate between -105 and -110. I tried it at work and I couldn't replicate it, strange...
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I had the same thing. I thought I had this issue, but had to dismiss the idea. The more I tested, the less my hypothesis held up. All of my testing happened at the same time, too. It seemed like for 5 minutes or so everytime i completely covered the antenna band at the top, that signal would drop. But after that first few minutes, my hand stopped having an impact, so I chalked it up to either an anomaly or a coincidence.
You are holding it wrong