Hi everyone
I have this problem:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Gu9oKlWq1Y
Anyone know how to solve this problem ?
Just as a disclaimer, every phone will lose signal if you grip it a certain way. Remember the iphone debacle?
But the quick fix is to just put a case on it. Your body will no longer interfere with the antenna and your phone will have the added bonus of surviving a fall.
Sent from my T-mobile G2
Nospin said:
Just as a disclaimer, every phone will lose signal if you grip it a certain way. Remember the iphone debacle?
But the quick fix is to just put a case on it. Your body will no longer interfere with the antenna and your phone will have the added bonus of surviving a fall.
Sent from my T-mobile G2
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Downside is cases tarnish the natural beauty of the phone that the cell phone manufacturers intended. I just take the risk. I would rather have a nice looking phone IMHO.
I already have this one http://www.otterbox.com/HTC-G2-/-HT...C4-G2XXX_color=20&start=1&cgid=desire-z-cases
gripping ANY phone tightly/awkwardly over the antenna will cause loss of signal. Some are worse than others, but it happens to any modern phone with an internal antenna. Cases help, but you're still going to be able to replicate it if you try hard enough. The phones are designed so that the antenna will more than likely not be blocked if you're holding it in any normal conventional way during regular use.
One usual culprit for the G2/DZ is the WiFi signal getting weaker when using the hardware keyboard, because your hands are covering the top and bottom of the device.
so isn't any idea to solve or help a little with this problem ?
kregiel16 said:
so isn't any idea to solve or help a little with this problem ?
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Like I just said, there's nothing you can do other than just don't hold the phone in such a ridiculous way. You can't move the antenna inside the phone, it is where it is.
In normal use I highly doubt you'll ever see drastic signal drop because of the way you hold your phone. Nobody normally holds a phone in the way shown in the video.
So tell me how to play in gameloft games where all of them is in landscape mode
kregiel16 said:
So tell me how to play in gameloft games where all of them is in landscape mode
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like I said, using the phone normally (yes even playing games in landscape) your signal shouldn't drop so low that you will be completely disconnected from the network. Don't get scared just because the bars drop.
But i already play at Order and Chaos and this game are also in landscape mode and unhappily i get lost connection every few minutes ;/ and the game has reconnecting.
kregiel16 said:
But i already play at Order and Chaos and this game are also in landscape mode and unhappily i get lost connection every few minutes ;/ and the game has reconnecting.
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There's nothing I can tell you. The antenna is where it is. If for some reason you're in a low signal area to start and you cover the antenna you're going to see loss of signal.
Tell me if i give back this mobile on warranty then they are able to solve issue ?
kregiel16 said:
Tell me if i give back this mobile on warranty then they are able to solve issue ?
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You're not listening. Every phone has this issue if you hold it in the right place. Its a cell phone with an antenna. Its just going to happen, there's nothing you or the manufacturer can do to "fix" it after the phone has been made.
I acutally thought this was a radio problem. I switched radios and noticed a slight improvement.
riahc3 said:
I acutally thought this was a radio problem. I switched radios and noticed a slight improvement.
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A radio update can help your signal a bit overall, but it will never remove the effect of strategically covering the physical antenna. What it would help with is a default low signal, that gets worsened to the point of disconnection from the network by covering the antenna (aka your normal signal could be higher, so that when it gets lessened it still stays connected).
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Basically we all know with the N1 how if you held the bottom of the device with your hand the device would loose 3G signal. Additionally this would cause issues in 3G low signal areas
im just wondering if the Desire suffers from the same issue considering its hardware is near identical to the N1's.
Could someone who has a Desire confirm with us if this happens or have HTC actually fixed the issue
Can't say I have ever experienced that and I use 3g everyday on this thing.
colin_090 said:
Basically we all know with the N1 how if you held the bottom of the device with your hand the device would loose 3G signal. Additionally this would cause issues in 3G low signal areas
im just wondering if the Desire suffers from the same issue considering its hardware is near identical to the N1's.
Could someone who has a Desire confirm with us if this happens or have HTC actually fixed the issue
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Yeah it still happens with the Desire. If you hold it at the bottom in the palm of your hand it quickly loses a large chunk of signal, sometimes going back to GSM.
EroThraX said:
Yeah it still happens with the Desire. If you hold it at the bottom in the palm of your hand it quickly loses a large chunk of signal, sometimes going back to GSM.
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My blackberry bold 2 also lose some signals if i hold at the bottom of the handset. I don't thing its a issue.
As the antenna on the desire is at the bottom it does reduce the signal if you hold it there. The difference is that most phones put the antenna at the top.
scotch whisky said:
As the antenna on the desire is at the bottom it does reduce the signal if you hold it there. The difference is that most phones put the antenna at the top.
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And I don't understand their choice
When I make a call I take the phone at the bottom... I think it's more natural than take it from the top...
Is it to protect the brain against bad radio frequencies ?
Actually, I always take my phone at the bottom... The buttons are at the bottom, the keyboard is on the bottom of the screen... I really don't understand why I should take my phone from the top!!
Big ergonomic issue in my mind. But I probably can live with it...
the phone is being let down big time by this one stupid issue. Why did HTC decide to do this. WHY WHY WHY.
This issue may not affect most people but its nice to know that your signal isnt artificially being shown as less when you know you could get a better signal.
Its not that hard to hold it from the top, I'm already used to it.
Quazar0 said:
Its not that hard to hold it from the top, I'm already used to it.
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And do you can press all buttons and tape on the keyboard with one hand by holding it from the top ?
Holding the superior (top half) part of the phone in the palm of the hand shows drastic drop in wifi signal (tested with dB meter), also visible in wifi icon "lines".
Does this qualify as a death grip and eligible for replacement?
zerozoneice said:
Holding the superior (top half) part of the phone in the palm of the hand shows drastic drop in wifi signal (tested with dB meter), also visible in wifi icon "lines".
Does this qualify as a death grip and eligible for replacement?
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No, that is just you blocking the wifi antenna... Death grip is more of a joke actually, it means if you pinch the top left side of the phone with your hand the connection will cut out (Now why you need to hold that part of your phone closed tight in your hand is a mystery)
Yet, if you can <<Disconnect>> your wifi by holding the top left corner of your phone, you can go for warranty if your phone is still lock...
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No, that is just you blocking the wifi antenna... Death grip is more of a joke actually, it means if you pinch the top left side of the phone with your hand the connection will cut out (Now why you need to hold that part of your phone closed tight in your hand is a mystery)
Yet, if you can <<Disconnect>> your wifi by holding the top left corner of your phone, you can go for warranty if your phone is still lock...
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Yeah I have the same problem as the OP, mine gets to the point where I can get it to go from full signal to absolutely nothing simply buy holding my hand over the camera.
Are you sure this is normal?
I would say you're blocking the wifi signal.
If it was going the other way "death grip" the phone and the signal boosts then you have the wifi problem and would need to contact HTC to get it fixed
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I would say you're blocking the wifi signal.
If it was going the other way "death grip" the phone and the signal boosts then you have the wifi problem and would need to contact HTC to get it fixed
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So the death grip is actually the life grip
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Usexy said:
Yeah I have the same problem as the OP, mine gets to the point where I can get it to go from full signal to absolutely nothing simply buy holding my hand over the camera.
Are you sure this is normal?
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Yes, that is normal (Actually it is not normal by international wifi standards, there is a problem with HOX WiFi antenna, but as this hardware problem is in all HOX devices and even HTC is admitting it, it counts as normal)
Hi there,
I have one X and tried this method and signal drops if i hold (half top) of the phone, but i don't think this can called Death Grip.. i also tried with Sensation and Evo3D, they loose signals like One X.
xhaniGS2 said:
Hi there,
I have one X and tried this method and signal drops if i hold (half top) of the phone, but i don't think this can called Death Grip.. i also tried with Sensation and Evo3D, they loose signals like One X.
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Thanks for the info
Hi,
I would like to ask for help and/or any suggestions that might lead to the solution of this problem.
Basically I was skating and had an accident and the screen cracked, which i got replaced, but then at the same time the network was connecting and disconnecting continuously. It sometimes shows the bars like there is good signal but i cant make calls or send texts, as soon as i try it shows a cross and no signal.
I tried everything from factory reset to changing the Radio/RIL to changing the rom. After a while I switched it to GSM only and it worked!!! So now the phone works on "2G" only which is annoying as the internet is quite slow. But as soon as i switch to Auto between GSM/WCDMA it goes back to doing that problem.
I would appreciate any suggestions, It might a damage to the mother board, but everything seems to run brilliantly on the phone.
Hi I've encounter the same accident too, but luckily I'd use casemate barely there, so it proof had protect my phone. You may need to sent for repair, as it sound so serious.
run an RzrU on the phone and send it to HTC or your carrier for repair. Definitely one hundred percent hardware failure
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Is the bottom plastic cover cracked from inside or damaged in any way?
sashank said:
Is the bottom plastic cover cracked from inside or damaged in any way?
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I have replaced it as well thinking it was the problem
I've had my Note 4 for a week and a half now, When my phone is on and being used signal is okay, but when I lock the screen it decides to get really low and even drops it completely. When turned on it doesn't connect back to 4G for quite some time and then it occasionally drops again. Stinks having such bad reception that I can't even receive Text Messages or other notifications.
Is anyone else experiencing the same thing? If not what could I be doing that is causing it?
AT&T Note 4, fully stock, Nova Launcher, Normally in my house on Wi-Fi but this happens everywhere I go. lots of apps that I always use mostly things like games and calculators or Reddit/Imgur.
All I have noticed is that the signal is not very consistent. For example, it will fluctuate between -96dbm-105dbm sitting in the same spot on my desk. It does however, stay connected to LTE in places where I would normally loose my LTE signal. But when I am taking it out of my pocket, its not loosing signal completely like you describe. Test it out in more places, or try resetting it.
Reset as in factory reset?
Yes. By the way, have you upgraded to the latest firmware?
Software is up to date.
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Software is up to date.
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Then perform a factory reset and see if the issue still persists.
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Then perform a factory reset and see if the issue still persists.
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Okay, after factory resetting the issue still persist. It's only happening when the phone is left locked for a short bit.
You got a lemon man. The rf on my note 4 blows my note 3 away.
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Reset as in factory reset?
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I would go with reflashing the stock rom. I had a keyboard lag with mine and I flashed that bad boy and it works perfectly now!
I found the problem actually, it seems the thin aluminum in the Verus Iron Shield Causes the signal to be weaker, so when it reached rock bottom it just kept losing it entirely. Usually in buildings. I am now on the hunt for a case that was as amazing as the Verus, but not aluminum around the borders.
I found that out when I first bought the S3,I ordered a metal back to replace the plastic one,just the snap on stock battery cover not a case.I put it on my mobile data and WiFi was fine,one day I went to use my GPS and it kept searching and searching,couldn't get it to lock.It was driving me crazy because it was a few days after I put that metal back on that I actually needed GPS,turned out it was the aluminum back.
Hello guys
Is just me or anyone here is having weak wifi signal even when I am near the router while other phones not having this issue!!
Ps: it's only my second day after buying the phone
No issues over here.
mine is fine too, it drops out once in while but so did my last phone lol
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mine is fine too, it drops out once in while but so did my last phone lol
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Mine is dropping too .. I hope someone got any notes about this issue before selling the phone
No issues here....
No issues, WIFI working perfectly here
I Feel Sorry For You..
quadcore003 said:
Mine is dropping too .. I hope someone got any notes about this issue before selling the phone
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Sorry To Read You Received A Faulty Device.. :angel:
There Are Zero Wi-Fi Issues With The A70 On A Mass Level.
You Should Begin The Process Of Obtaining A New Replacement Unit A.S.A.P.
Mine drops frequently to the point that it's frustrating. Check out my post about the screen and tell me if you have the same issues too. We might have the same versions of the device, which appear to be a bunch of faulty versions from the same batch.
I'm having an issue as well. My old phone can and able to detect and connect to my WiFi (which is quite distant tho) meanwhile my A70 can't, I have to get closer to the Wi-Fi in order for it to detect/connect to it but after that if I return to the other place when it doesn't pick it up, I'm able to maintain the connection. It's weird..
Use 3rd party app to connect on wifi. Im using wifi master. Playstore have it
jedtan025 said:
Use 3rd party app to connect on wifi. Im using wifi master. Playstore have it
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Can u please attach the screenshot of wifi master app because there are so many wifi master apps in playstore
Shozaf.shah said:
Can u please attach the screenshot of wifi master app because there are so many wifi master apps in playstore
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Here you go buddy
That Wifi Master app is unsupported by the A70 so I don't know why you'd recommend it here
wifi is definitely one of the worst thing on the a70...it drives me up the wall, and i am ready to sell my phone and never touch any samsung anymore because of this...i am not sure, but samsung is trying too hard to make some things "smarter" meaning if samsung thinks your wifi signal is bad it drops connection just like that...exclamation mark, lost connection, switch to data, are countless through the day...and samsung is playing dumb about this problem...
my wife is using lg and meizu on the same network and wifi is working perfectly fine 24/7...
same here. my friend is able to get a stable connection on the same network with a much older phone. However samsung won't do anything about it.
jedtan025 said:
Use 3rd party app to connect on wifi. Im using wifi master. Playstore have it
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I can't see any app that you mention.
Can you kindly share its link here or pm me.
As my A70 also has weak wifi issue.
Can't see the wifi router downstairs when my old. Samsung note 4 can, laptop can
I'm having the same issue. Weak Wi-Fi signal in my A70. While my other phones are getting full signal. Is there any way to fix?
seems like some antenna problem. you can probably fix it by bridging antenna contacts with the pins on the motherboard with a lump of copper wire. Solder can also help.
to take itapart:
1) insert a thin piece of plastic( like a flexible plastic file) into the gap between the rear plastic and frame, and cut the adhesive, and peel away the rear plastic
2) remove the screws and sim tray
3)slide your finger nail into the gap between the rough plastic and the smooth plastic on the side rails. The rough plastic is the part that is touching the screen, and the smooth plastic is the side rails. The smooth plastic is of a different colour, and the rough plastic is black.
4 pull the side rails away, and examine the copper antenna contacts. you might want to replace the mid frame. If you still have warranty, bring it back to store