Develop Bugs

How likely do you think an ATT Nexus is?

which carrier do you think is better......

At&t is the least "Android friendly" carrier so I would kind of be surprised. I know in the 3+ years I had them I hated every minute of it. I am soo happy with VZW and will never go back. I also know that this is only my experience and reception differs through out the country, but in Northern AL VZW is the only carrier worth having if you actually want a working device - I have full coverage and LTE almost everywhere I go. With At&t I had a bar and edge. Doesnt At&t have LTE in like 12 major cities only? What is the point?
EDIT: Yes VZW is more expensive but its worth it to me to actually be able to use my phone.

I didn't think att was so anti android. They had the atrix. A killer device and came out eons before (10 months?) the bionic, the all but brother to the atrix, and they have their own S2 and S2 lte. Even a nexus s. I'm not butting heads intentionally. But I also know in north jersey (15 miles from Verizon HQ) my hspa+ smokes Verizon 3g usually 3megs to .75. And call wise no body in my area has att problems. BUT I do hear about them from other locations. But I digress. I don't see why att is android unfriendly and why we should give up on lte from them just because its new. They have 1/6th the coverage Verizon has which is good for such a small time its been out. Also the lte switching on att kills lte when not in use and vice versa. Tremendous better savings vs big red. Just my thoughts
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium

Mrglass86 said:
I didn't think att was so anti android. They had the atrix. A killer device and came out eons before (10 months?) the bionic, the all but brother to the atrix, and they have their own S2 and S2 lte. Even a nexus s. I'm not butting heads intentionally. But I also know in north jersey (15 miles from Verizon HQ) my hspa+ smokes Verizon 3g usually 3megs to .75. And call wise no body in my area has att problems. BUT I do hear about them from other locations. But I digress. I don't see why att is android unfriendly and why we should give up on lte from them just because its new. They have 1/6th the coverage Verizon has which is good for such a small time its been out. Also the lte switching on att kills lte when not in use and vice versa. Tremendous better savings vs big red. Just my thoughts
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
For the longest time, they locked down sideloading of apps. Thats pretty damn Android unfriendly.

I was under the impression that Verizon did too. Am I wrong?
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium

Nah, Verizon never did that. They like to bloat things up, but they do not lockdown sideloading or anything like that. Nor do they use CIQ like Sprint does on some of their devices.

adrynalyne said:
For the longest time, they locked down sideloading of apps. Thats pretty damn Android unfriendly.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
^^THIS^^
AND THEN.. You have AT&T disabling HSPA on their Android phones but leaving it enabled on the iDevices, all the time marketing their Androids as HSPA CAPABLE. They are unethical liars.
Mrglass86 said:
I was under the impression that Verizon did too. Am I wrong?
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
VZW never prevented sideloading.

well i appreciate the clarity, i guess as having a decent selection of androids to me made me feel that way,
ANYWAYS do we have any input on the topic? i feel like some people dont care, but we are talking about an awesome phone being offered to people at a lower cost, sim card use in america with a faster radio and possibly more storage, and a 1 year warranty in america, im not sure if att would even have the ability to hamper the nexus experience with this so does anyone care or do we just want to hate ATT?

T-Mobile.. cheaper, allows tethering/hotspots, no android restrictions... dont know why people put up with att and verizon

norazi said:
T-Mobile.. cheaper, allows tethering/hotspots, no android restrictions... dont know why people put up with att and verizon
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I pay the premium to actually have reception, Tmo & Att have none in my area.. VZW has reception everywhere, and LTE everywhere too (in my area). VZW doesnt have "Android restrictions", and Ive never paid for tethering on any carrier nor will I - I get that for free.

norazi said:
T-Mobile.. cheaper, allows tethering/hotspots, no android restrictions... dont know why people put up with att and verizon
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Because T-mobile's service is garbage in a lot of places? Because they have unlimited data on Verizon? Because Verizon actually carries the Galaxy Nexus and there is no trouble getting warranty support?
There is actually a no service area for T-mobile within city limits here.

Should I get T-Mo or International S3?

Well im stuck on deciding which one to get. i already know the 3g/4g data wont work on the international but it will by the end of this year because t-mo is refarming. Everything is better about the international (processor, gpu, audio, support) except for the 1 gb extra ram on the t-mo version. So my question is should i buy the international one and use edge speed until t mobile refarms or play it safe and just get the t-mo?

agentdude said:
Well im stuck on deciding which one to get. i already know the 3g/4g data wont work on the international but it will by the end of this year because t-mo is refarming. Everything is better about the international (processor, gpu, audio, support) except for the 1 gb extra ram on the t-mo version. So my question is should i buy the international one and use edge speed until t mobile refarms or play it safe and just get the t-mo?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i9300 is better. but if you're with tmobile, why not just get t999? its cheaper. though i personally like i9300. its snappy

JoJo2211 said:
i9300 is better. but if you're with tmobile, why not just get t999? its cheaper. though i personally like i9300. its snappy
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
the specs on the international are better and is more future-proof with the quad-core and more development support. is it too risky to buy the international version and wait for t-mobiles refarming?

Will T-Mo finish refarming any time soon?
Side question, does anybody know the time frame of T-Mo getting LTE?

I am going in the morning and getting the international. And I am actually on straight talk. But ehen tmo gets data so will I. I think getting the quad core when uts already august it will only be a few months then yoy will be stuck wanting to upgrade again
sent via one badass kindle fire fueled by jellybeans

agentdude said:
Well im stuck on deciding which one to get. i already know the 3g/4g data wont work on the international but it will by the end of this year because t-mo is refarming. Everything is better about the international (processor, gpu, audio, support) except for the 1 gb extra ram on the t-mo version. So my question is should i buy the international one and use edge speed until t mobile refarms or play it safe and just get the t-mo?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
if your with t mobile i would just get the sgh t999... can save you headaches later on.

Don_Perrignon said:
Will T-Mo finish refarming any time soon?
Side question, does anybody know the time frame of T-Mo getting LTE?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
T-Mo said by the end of 2012 and they said they will start LTE in 2013

Is there any evidence that the international version would work on T-Mobile's LTE? AT&T and Verizon already have LTE, yet they still use the S4 variant. Maybe the bands aren't the same?

I don't know why you all are talking about LTE, the INTL version doesn't support LTE period. HSPA+ 21 is all it supports and that is on AT&T network. If I were you, I would get the TMO version even if the quad core supported TMO's 4G, I feel the Snapdragon S4 in the T999 is on par or better than the quad core in the International GS3 mainly because the S4 chip is built off the A15 architecture while the quad is A9. I've held them both for 30 minutes because I was in the same predicament you are in and I chose T-Mobile's version because it felt snappier. You can search YouTube as well, there are plenty YouTube videos on on this very subject comparing the two phones. There mostly no difference in speed, and that should tell you a lot about the chip in this phone. If you're a hardcore user, this chip can handle any and all task you and the Play Store can through at it and some, not only because of the awesome S4 chip, but because the 2GB of RAM. This phone is ridiculous. You will love either one but for you and the Network you are on, go with the T-mobile Galaxy S3. That's my advice, take it or leave it.

I work for tmobile, But opted for sprint. as far as the notes in our internal files show. theres only a tentative Q4 timeframe for MAJOR cities. the only city that seems to be getting any love is SF with tmobile investing 4 billion dollars into the network buying up spectrum just so they have the chance to grab up more iphone users. some of you very well may be out of luck for quite a while. tmobile is content to let you roam until you hit certain limits then theyll terminate you under ERR(Extreme Roaming) great thing about that is it saves you an early 200 dollar term fee.

jaidlion said:
I work for tmobile, But opted for sprint. as far as the notes in our internal files show. theres only a tentative Q4 timeframe for MAJOR cities. the only city that seems to be getting any love is SF with tmobile investing 4 billion dollars into the network buying up spectrum just so they have the chance to grab up more iphone users. some of you very well may be out of luck for quite a while. tmobile is content to let you roam until you hit certain limits then theyll terminate you under ERR(Extreme Roaming) great thing about that is it saves you an early 200 dollar term fee.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Seems to me all T-Mobile cares about is the iPhone, all their ads and I mean ALL OF THEM! Include the iPhone. So annoying. They advertise the iPhone more than their own devices.

IRIE4IPIER said:
I don't know why you all are talking about LTE, the INTL version doesn't support LTE period. HSPA+ 21 is all it supports and that is on AT&T network. If I were you, I would get the TMO version even if the quad core supported TMO's 4G, I feel the Snapdragon S4 in the T999 is on par or better than the quad core in the International GS3 mainly because the S4 chip is built off the A15 architecture while the quad is A9. I've held them both for 30 minutes because I was in the same predicament you are in and I chose T-Mobile's version because it felt snappier. You can search YouTube as well, there are plenty YouTube videos on on this very subject comparing the two phones. There mostly no difference in speed, and that should tell you a lot about the chip in this phone. If you're a hardcore user, this chip can handle any and all task you and the Play Store can through at it and some, not only because of the awesome S4 chip, but because the 2GB of RAM. This phone is ridiculous. You will love either one but for you and the Network you are on, go with the T-mobile Galaxy S3. That's my advice, take it or leave it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
wow that was a great answer. Thank you very much this just made up my mind

To be honest with you, tmobile is really interested in the iphone, they dont want to invest the cash in tmobile is in a really unfortunate position and its all due to the piss poor decisions they are making. the Tmobile GS3 is better than the internaional one imo and loads better than the iphone but the internal document i read, actually advocated telling the users they were investing 4 billion into one specific city receiving iphone capabilities even though 1/4 of our call volume is "theres no service in my area" honestly if tmobiles sim subsidy unlocking practices werent so much better than At&ts i wouldnt even view them as a viable option =/

jaidlion said:
I work for tmobile, But opted for sprint. as far as the notes in our internal files show. theres only a tentative Q4 timeframe for MAJOR cities. the only city that seems to be getting any love is SF with tmobile investing 4 billion dollars into the network buying up spectrum just so they have the chance to grab up more iphone users. some of you very well may be out of luck for quite a while. tmobile is content to let you roam until you hit certain limits then theyll terminate you under ERR(Extreme Roaming) great thing about that is it saves you an early 200 dollar term fee.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
WOW, I just left Sprint after 12 yrs and my Evo LTE for the TMO GS3. I get 15% discount on both but TMO is $40 cheaper per month for 3 lines with 5,2,2 data unlimted min and 500min for 3rd line. Sprint has crept up by $39 on my 3 lines over the last 2yrs with data increase and ins increase. I got tired of the below 1mbps 3G speeds and the nonexistent LTE while living in one of the LTE launch cities. Loving my cheaper plan with HSPA+ getting double digit dl speeds.
Sent from my GS3 via TapaTalk 2

i personal got the t-mobile s3 t-999 and i like its fast and responsive no real issues i noticed

IRIE4IPIER has some good advice, and is right on. If you do opt for the international version, be prepared for a very slow network experience on T-Mobile. Also, about the quad-core vs dual-core thing. I would definitely opt for the 2GB RAM dual-core over the 1GB RAM quad-core on these phones. The S4 CPU in the dual-core version is no slouch, and it is A15-ish. The Exynos, of course, is great, but there is nothing that you can do on the international version (assuming you are in the U.S. and not continuously running AnTuTu benchmarks) that you cannot do on the T-Mobile version. Conversely, there are many things that you will not be able to do on the international version.
Edit: Ok, seems as though you made your decision. Congrats.

agentdude said:
wow that was a great answer. Thank you very much this just made up my mind
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
you were trying to base your choice on pure speculation, as well. as of now, there is no actual, tangible release date for a network upgrade. if you bought the international version, you'd be stuck with slow mobile speeds, for what reason? because of 2 more CPUs and less ram?
good thing you made the right choice :good:

Ok, thread's been sitting but let me 2c it.
The current t-mobile network performance on the quad s3 is astoundingly bad, hopefully once they implement it will be better. Even though I knew this, I still opted for the int version because of the quad core. I consistently max out processors, so was looking for the quad and was extremely disappointed that we got the dumbed-down version in the states. Used to that though (lower performance imports, electronics, no diesels, etc, etc)
Could the quad core have worked with our current network? Of course, t-mobile made the requisite radio hardware changes for the upcoming network. Anyway, the other concern was the lack of an additional gig of ram. The solution for this problem is enabling linux-style swap on the kernel. On the former Galaxy S kernels, developers shied away from this citing it did not really work. This always frustrated me, as it does work and that's why linux uses it. The question is if it's effective on the Android system. Well, Android is constructed along the principals of linux.
Also, take note that both Windows 7 and Windows 8 ask if you want to enable you're flash drive as swap. Windows finally caught on to this too. (Sorry Mac, you're still a little slow, but your products certainly cost enough!)
Anyway, one of our developers is enabling swap in his kernel now (SiyahKernel).
Availible here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1709686
And with full rom build and installer here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1734643
(Note: This kernel is for ICS and not LB, it's why I'm sticking with ICS now)
Here's a great write-up on enabling swap: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1814311&highlight=4+1
Ok, I've tested the T-Mobile s3 multiple times and found the quad scores (I know, I know) to be in the lower 4000's. Non-oc'd the int s3 was able to barely break into the 5000's.
Overclocked with SetCPU (has to be kernel enabled, the Siyah kernel allows this) and swap enabled (1 gig, class-10 sd), I was able to achieve 6230 on Quadrant Standard.
Not too damn shabby!
(Thanks Dev's)
Only question is, will there be any work-a-round to speed up the int on T-Mobile prior to the HSPA+?
Don't know.

dont be a fool! go with tmobile!!!

dannydv said:
dont be a fool! go with tmobile!!!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If he wanted the int version it's his choice to make and that doesn't make him a fool.
Sent from my SGH-T999 using Tapatalk 2

Intl galaxy note 2 or att galaxy note 2

Hey guys,
Looking for some opinions. I'm planning on jumping ship top the galaxy note 2. I live in the USA and I'm in an area with great LTE coverage. I'm either going to purchase the international or local variant.
I'm thinking of getting the international version because I assume development will be much greater and more accessories available.
If I wait and get the Att version I'll have access to the LTE network, but I fear there will be less development and accessories.
Any thoughts, what would you guys do?
Thanks,
Rob
Sent from my HTC One XL using xda premium

Great LTE speeds or great development. AT&T version will have the same specs as the international version. The rest is up to you to make a decision

im getting unlocked version i have a GS3 on ATT and HSAP+ is pretty good on ATT.. plus no crap ware from ATT unless you root which is the only to roll :highfive: more support on unlock.. plus HSAP+ will be more battery friendly :victory:

markysd said:
im getting unlocked version i have a GS3 on ATT and HSAP+ is pretty good on ATT.. plus no crap ware from ATT unless you root which is the only to roll :highfive: more support on unlock.. plus HSAP+ will be more battery friendly :victory:
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
My thoughts exacty. Received my N7100 on Monday. LTE is not available in my area anyway.
Sent from my GT-N7100 using Tapatalk 2

Pinkthesink said:
Hey guys,
Looking for some opinions. I'm planning on jumping ship top the galaxy note 2. I live in the USA and I'm in an area with great LTE coverage. I'm either going to purchase the international or local variant.
I'm thinking of getting the international version because I assume development will be much greater and more accessories available.
If I wait and get the Att version I'll have access to the LTE network, but I fear there will be less development and accessories.
Any thoughts, what would you guys do?
Thanks,
Rob
Sent from my HTC One XL using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i am in the same boat, picked up the NOTE 2 7100 and honestly after using the htc one x lte for 5 months on mobile network i really havent felt deprived unless im viewing a picture heavy site. my theory is i can sell my 7100 get the att one or buy the att one stuff my 7100 in the box (after switching stickers of course) and return it.

americasteam said:
My thoughts exacty. Received my N7100 on Monday. LTE is not available in my area anyway.
Sent from my GT-N7100 using Tapatalk 2
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
must be loving it:victory: im close to pulling the trigger..the more i go on this site and watch youtube videos about the Note 2 the closer ill buy it..im really wanting a 32GB due to i dont know why we cant run apps from SD cards or burst shots saved ect and what else that only runs on internal memory..16GB now days gets eaten up quick specially when backed up roms .. the SD card reader on the NOTE supports them crazy fast reading from sandisk cards...
high end phones now days should be 32GB at the lowest phones are getting smarter/faster/higher camera MP ect and require more GB but i guess i can live with 16GB for apps only and like 3 roms backed up ect..i feel more safe with 32GB plus the note is design for content consumption i dont really talk on the phone:silly:
i miss my note 1 in a way but was just a test drive to see if i like it and i did. i dont really like 1st gen devices.

I'm agreeing with you guys about LTE, its fast but the hspa+ in this area is real good as well. Plus there's no telling what Att will do to the device, bootloader and all. I think I'll go the intl route for now. Any ideas on foreign suppliers right now, I've used clove on the UK for the original note and gs2 with great success.
Sent from my HTC One XL using xda premium

I prefer international version too but I'm having such a bad luck with data speed. I can barely go over 1mbps, if I'm lucky 2mbps at the most. I know my location has LTE coverage but doesn't seem hspa+ friendly. It's so frustrating, for that reason I might try att LTE version since specs are most identical.
As for accessories, I don't think there will be too much difference. Int & US S3 has just about same amount of accessories availability. I assume it will be same for Note 2.
Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk 2

One thing I don't see a lot of people mentioning is the tethering capabilities of the international version.
That is the main reason why I went with the international version of the US version HTC One X, Galaxy S3 and now the Note 2 was for the built in tethering.
With the US version, as soon as I tried tethering a device to it, it requires me to add an appropriate more expensive data plan before I can connect.
With the international versions, I tether all day to them with my laptop, my other wifi devices ect. without incurring any extra charges or making any changes to my current data plan.
That my friend, is way worth it for me to go with the international version.

Once you got LTE, you never go back...thats me though. Same exact specs plus LTE? Also it should be out in a week or two? Id wait.

So people who have Note 2 in the US how are your data speeds are seeing a big difference in not having the LTE version? I live in a non LTE area does affect me?
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I717 using xda premium

jawain said:
So people who have Note 2 in the US how are your data speeds are seeing a big difference in not having the LTE version? I live in a non LTE area does affect me?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Comparing my international note2 to my wife's galaxy S3 with AT&T's LTE service, she gets faster data speeds - at least 2x what I can get (and sometimes even 4-5x times what I can get.) (I get about 4 to 7 down while I've seen hers go as high as 25 down.) However, it's really not noticable for web browsing, email, etc. The only time I noticed any difference (outside of the speedtest benchmark app) was when downloading something from the google play store. Even that isn't an issue for me, as I usually don't download from the play store when I'm not home (and on wifi.)
Having the LTE device will result in heavier battery usage (even in a non-LTE area.) Until the devices start showing up, however, it's impossible to say what the difference will be. It might be an extremely power efficient LTE chip, or it might not be. The extra drain will be most noticable when the device is connected to the LTE network and data is transfering. Even when NOT using data or not connected to LTE, it will still drain extra power (as the extra LTE chip will be powered and will occassionally search for an LTE connection.)
Take care
Gary

garyd9 said:
Comparing my international note2 to my wife's galaxy S3 with AT&T's LTE service, she gets faster data speeds - at least 2x what I can get (and sometimes even 4-5x times what I can get.) (I get about 4 to 7 down while I've seen hers go as high as 25 down.) However, it's really not noticable for web browsing, email, etc. The only time I noticed any difference (outside of the speedtest benchmark app) was when downloading something from the google play store. Even that isn't an issue for me, as I usually don't download from the play store when I'm not home (and on wifi.)
Having the LTE device will result in heavier battery usage (even in a non-LTE area.) Until the devices start showing up, however, it's impossible to say what the difference will be. It might be an extremely power efficient LTE chip, or it might not be. The extra drain will be most noticable when the device is connected to the LTE network and data is transfering. Even when NOT using data or not connected to LTE, it will still drain extra power (as the extra LTE chip will be powered and will occassionally search for an LTE connection.)
Take care
Gary
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thank you for that information so despite the the data speeds are you satisfied with the Int Note 2 or do you think you will switching to the US version?
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I717 using xda premium

I have never owned an LTE phone and seem to do just fine on HSPA+. My Note 2 will here Monday (from Newegg) and I'll just use it as I do every other HSPA+ phone. If it meets my needs (streaming netflix/radio/tethering) I'll just keep it. If the AT&T version is super power efficient and screams on LTE without sucking (bloatware, locked down, etc) I'll just sell my mint international Note 2 and move on with my life and get the AT&T version.
Win-win.

jawain said:
Thank you for that information so despite the the data speeds are you satisfied with the Int Note 2 or do you think you will switching to the US version?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Most likely, I'll keep the international version. I expect AT&T to sell their LTE version for 750 off contract (75 more than I paid for the international), it'll be bloated (as every AT&T device is), locked to AT&T frequencies and SIMs, and I don't think it'll be as well supported by the open community as the n7100.
Finally, I think it'll be at least one more generation of chips before LTE is power efficient enough for me. I simply don't do anything with my phone that really takes advantage of the LTE speeds - so the extra battery drain from the LTE support isn't worth it for me.
If I used my phone for tethering, on the other hand, I probably wouldn't even consider the non-LTE handsets anymore (and would keep a spare battery or two.)
Take care
Gary

Any idea what size sim card will be used for the AT&T version? Should be regular size right? That is my only concern because I don't want to have to cut my regular sized sim card if I were to get the international version. Unless AT&T will use micro sim too... if that's the case then I could just buy the international version now since I'll be cutting my sim card either way.. and I don't really need LTE and AT&T's bloatware.

maykatok said:
Any idea what size sim card will be used for the AT&T version? Should be regular size right? That is my only concern because I don't want to have to cut my regular sized sim card if I were to get the international version. Unless AT&T will use micro sim too... if that's the case then I could just buy the international version now since I'll be cutting my sim card either way.. and I don't really need LTE and AT&T's bloatware.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
microSIM. Pretty much all new phones these days are micro. It's the new standard.

What carriers are you guys using to tether?
Just curious because i was considering straight talk but its against their ToS to tether.

just something i found on youtube!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oz6frJcsAh0
LTE version of note 2 bench marked lower then the N7100

turilo said:
just something i found on youtube!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oz6frJcsAh0
LTE version of note 2 bench marked lower then the N7100
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Lol totally disregard my last post lte note 2 is the same in benchmark tests
Sent from my SGH-I317M using Tapatalk 2

ATT Note Verses International Note N7000

Burned one of two way over due upgrades and aquired the note II for $239 to rty out since ATT had busted my Note I three times on MediaNet
I used it stock for a day and for another day rooted and Rommed (Pegasus kernel/ LiteRom) for another day and I have to say I am glad I kept the International Note (running JB 4.2.1) for now as the jury is out. Here is a list of pros and cons I have discovered comparing my use of the Note 1 for a year
Pros
Much easier to handle. A little goes a long way here
Screen is longer. A little is a little here.
OS is faster comparing both JB OS
I like the notification led
Definitively louder speaker
S Pen operation and implementation better
Hotswap SD card
LTE (although we won't get it here for a year or more)
I have a warranty LOL Never had them with International devices.
Cons
ATT Bloat (mostly removed)
No FM Radio. I knew this but I do use the radio as I am a News/Talk radio junkie and to conserve power and data
No 4.2 support yet Lack of development ( its early yet but the "excitement level for development is not there as it is for the Internationals)
ATT/Yahoo Browser terrible. I actually used the Samsung browser. Welcome back Dolphin!
Costing me $15 more a month for "smartphone" Not sure if the device is worth another $200 a year.
Verdict is clear, Get the N7100 and have the best of both worlds Which is my intent .Going to order one and try it and sell the other two. or wait awhile and see what develops.
I do know this. I have been using international devices since the ATT Captivate and should have learned then not to buy a carrier phone.

I'm actually on the fence about whether to get the att or the international version. I have lte in my area and I'm wondering what the data speed difference would be between the both of them? If there's not much difference them I would choose the international but I have no way of testing. What do you think the speeds are?
Sent from my SGH-T959V using xda premium

Here's an idea of the difference in speeds between HSDPA and LTE.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I317

I juggled both as well and opted for the lte. I got great coverage here and got spoiled by it over the international one. Both pretty are the same to me as in features and some how I get better battery life with my att one than the international one.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I317 using Tapatalk 2

Wow can't do the international version if its that much of a difference. I get almost 25mbps of lte in my area. Att version it is. Thanks fellas!
Sent from my SGH-T959V using xda premium

It should at least fall back to 4g anyway if you're not in an lte area anyway.

my 2 cents: i had the same delima when i first ordered my GN2. got it and returned it after one day (thought is was too big) only to win a new GN2 (att version) at a company event. (actually had my choice of a One X/GS3/GN2). nonetheless, i prefer the at&t version for LTE (when needed) and warranty. i'm not a flash-aholic so i'm not sure what i'm missing (yet) with the current crop of custom ROMS; this thing is fluid and fast and, battery life has been very good. i'm using my GN2 mainly for work. personal preference aside, you can't go wrong with either version.

T-Mobile scam exposed "galaxy s3 not compatible with LTE"

T-mobile is pretty evil in my opinion. The galaxy s3 should get the liability to be able to connect to LTE on their network. It isn't fair that they removed LTE capability via a software update. Proof; appleandroidguide on YouTube, watch the first video and you will see

I buy my phones based on what they can do the day I buy them, not what may happen in the future. It would be nice to have the LTE option but I never really expected it despite the promises made by sales staff and customer service. I will go buy a full blown LTE phone if I feel the need.

Sorry but your wrong, the only phone T-Mobile has for sale that has the LTE capabilities is the Note II because its exactly the same as the AT&T version. If you open it up you will find out that the phone may have an LTE radio but no antenna, like the Nexus 4. And really you should but your phone on what you can do now, not down the road.
Sent from my SGH-T889 using xda app-developers app

Another one of these threads? Really?
Sent from my SGH-T999 using xda premium

Thetenthdr said:
Another one of these threads? Really?
Sent from my SGH-T999 using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yup. Loan him your Tardis so he can go back in time to unbuy the T-mobile Galaxy S3.

Omg my porn loads instantly on hspa, how much faster can lte really be? By the time lte gets to the smaller markets most of us will have moved on anyway
Sent from my SGH-T999 using Tapatalk 2

Deleted
Sent from my SGH-T999 using xda premium

My Netflix and games and downloads and everything run just fine on HSDPA+ and along with the lte upgrade, HSDPA+ will also receive an upgrade. I'd rather keep my H+ phone which will hey better battery life than LTE....
You gotta ask yourself... Do you really need it?
And if you do ( for reasons such as deeper penetration into buildings so you actually get 4g where you live or work or whatever..not just for faster 4g) then sell your s3 and buy an lte s3 or s4.
Your s3 was launched a year ago..that's a long time in technology. Get over it.
Its like buying a new car then complaining a year later that the newer model has more horsepower and better mpg.
Sent from my SGH-T999 using Tapatalk 2

bfranklin1986 said:
Omg my porn loads instantly on hspa, how much faster can lte really be? By the time lte gets to the smaller markets most of us will have moved on anyway
Sent from my SGH-T999 using Tapatalk 2
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Its more about coverage. Eff ya porn
??Really??
Sent from my SGH-T999 using Tapatalk 2

Yudichh said:
T-mobile is pretty evil in my opinion. The galaxy s3 should get the liability to be able to connect to LTE on their network. It isn't fair that they removed LTE capability via a software update. Proof; appleandroidguide on YouTube, watch the first video and you will see
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Okay how is it a scam? If you bought the phone when it came out(1yr ago) Tmobile wasn't even hinting at lte. You bought the phone with an understanding of what it was capable of. Most people aren't xda people. They don't go on forums and check out detailed specs sheets and breakdowns inquiring about possibilities of a phones hardware. Sometimes I think its a curse to have such knowledge as we know more than the Tmobile reps or any carrier reps do. The xda community is a minority. They aren't going to change anything for us. They know if people want stuff bad enough they will either leave, pay , or stay where they are at. Tmobile will not bend for you or anyone. You know how hard it was for me to get credit from them for something they did (680++$$) ??? Over a week on the phone.
Sent from my SGH-T999 using xda app-developers app

Just Ranting but here !!
Come on guys Really ? Technogoloy changes so fast these days no and keep up unless you have deep pockets filled with money and still while your standing there while to pay for it a something newer faster nicer sweeter will come a few days after you buy it. This is the name of technology sales my friends. I get HSDPA+ . Sprint pushes out Samsung S3 to people telling them “ Oh it 4G and LTE soon” in the NYC area but out side of the 2-5 miles you may get 3G that’s is it sometimes and another times crap. These carriers for there not for you but for your $$$$. So that’s why I buy my T-mobile phone based on what they can do and for how long. The very fact that you can pull out the sim card and just drop it in a other T-mobile just is a plus. Is this not why we are here because after we Root our phone and we come here for what they don’t give us?

You may enjoy the speed now but think about internetwork operability and the plans to launch voice over LTE via VoIP-based technology and its a no brainer that its something you want.
Keep in mind, it may take entirely new radio technology to take advantage of VoLTE so buying an LTE phone may already be outdated by this year which, besides economic factors, is why I'm waiting to see what happens in 3Q and 4Q
http://www.extremetech.com/tag/volte

If I remember correctly, the T999 gs3 doesn't even have an LTE chip in the phone. That's what tmobile is releasing the T999L that INCLUDES the LTE radio. The OP is an idiot, and if idiots dont wanna take the time to research and learn about stuff, then they deserve every bad thing that happens.

It does have the lte chip but it isn't activated and won't be because they went a different way with lte bands.
http://m.computerworld.com/s/articl...phones_won_t_work_with_T_Mobile_s_LTE_network
Sent from my wickedly awesome Galaxy S3 using my fingers. Duh!!!

I'm with Videotron carrier in Canada, I have the T999v (v only for videotron, stupid ahah) and I have a fully working LTE network. Our device have the same hardware so T999 IS compatible LTE only T-Mobile popping bad excuse to dont offert it.

I guess I don't understand what the fuss is. When this phone came out for Tmo LTE was not even confirmed. Knowing this, and the fact that absolutely nothing has changed in terms of what has been said about this phone from either Tmo or Samsung about this phone having lte capabilities, there is no scam. We can wish that it was built with the compatible hardware, but the bottom line is that things could be worse, we could be stuck on sprint...
Sent from my SGH-T999 using xda app-developers app

Steve5400 said:
I guess I don't understand what the fuss is. When this phone came out for Tmo LTE was not even confirmed. Knowing this, and the fact that absolutely nothing has changed in terms of what has been said about this phone from either Tmo or Samsung about this phone having lte capabilities, there is no scam. We can wish that it was built with the compatible hardware, but the bottom line is that things could be worse, we could be stuck on sprint...
Sent from my SGH-T999 using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
where I would disagree is in your statement about nothing has changed. I too was told multiple times before buying the phone towards the end of the year that it was lte ready and would get it once it came out.

The phone has an LTE amplifier for 700mhz and 1700mhz bands but no modem is mentioned. I would be curious to see a teardown of the V model... Its supposed to be identical to T-Mobile from what I understand...

So it has the lte radio but not the correct one? I been reading different threads on this figuring out if i was gonna get one but don't know if i want to. What lte bands does TMobile use

EtherealRemnant said:
The phone has an LTE amplifier for 700mhz and 1700mhz bands but no modem is mentioned. I would be curious to see a teardown of the V model... Its supposed to be identical to T-Mobile from what I understand...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes, at least they say me that but i can confirm that i've already had and 27 mbts bench on Speed test on my S3