Well im stuck on deciding which one to get. i already know the 3g/4g data wont work on the international but it will by the end of this year because t-mo is refarming. Everything is better about the international (processor, gpu, audio, support) except for the 1 gb extra ram on the t-mo version. So my question is should i buy the international one and use edge speed until t mobile refarms or play it safe and just get the t-mo?
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Well im stuck on deciding which one to get. i already know the 3g/4g data wont work on the international but it will by the end of this year because t-mo is refarming. Everything is better about the international (processor, gpu, audio, support) except for the 1 gb extra ram on the t-mo version. So my question is should i buy the international one and use edge speed until t mobile refarms or play it safe and just get the t-mo?
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i9300 is better. but if you're with tmobile, why not just get t999? its cheaper. though i personally like i9300. its snappy
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i9300 is better. but if you're with tmobile, why not just get t999? its cheaper. though i personally like i9300. its snappy
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the specs on the international are better and is more future-proof with the quad-core and more development support. is it too risky to buy the international version and wait for t-mobiles refarming?
Will T-Mo finish refarming any time soon?
Side question, does anybody know the time frame of T-Mo getting LTE?
I am going in the morning and getting the international. And I am actually on straight talk. But ehen tmo gets data so will I. I think getting the quad core when uts already august it will only be a few months then yoy will be stuck wanting to upgrade again
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Well im stuck on deciding which one to get. i already know the 3g/4g data wont work on the international but it will by the end of this year because t-mo is refarming. Everything is better about the international (processor, gpu, audio, support) except for the 1 gb extra ram on the t-mo version. So my question is should i buy the international one and use edge speed until t mobile refarms or play it safe and just get the t-mo?
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if your with t mobile i would just get the sgh t999... can save you headaches later on.
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Will T-Mo finish refarming any time soon?
Side question, does anybody know the time frame of T-Mo getting LTE?
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T-Mo said by the end of 2012 and they said they will start LTE in 2013
Is there any evidence that the international version would work on T-Mobile's LTE? AT&T and Verizon already have LTE, yet they still use the S4 variant. Maybe the bands aren't the same?
I don't know why you all are talking about LTE, the INTL version doesn't support LTE period. HSPA+ 21 is all it supports and that is on AT&T network. If I were you, I would get the TMO version even if the quad core supported TMO's 4G, I feel the Snapdragon S4 in the T999 is on par or better than the quad core in the International GS3 mainly because the S4 chip is built off the A15 architecture while the quad is A9. I've held them both for 30 minutes because I was in the same predicament you are in and I chose T-Mobile's version because it felt snappier. You can search YouTube as well, there are plenty YouTube videos on on this very subject comparing the two phones. There mostly no difference in speed, and that should tell you a lot about the chip in this phone. If you're a hardcore user, this chip can handle any and all task you and the Play Store can through at it and some, not only because of the awesome S4 chip, but because the 2GB of RAM. This phone is ridiculous. You will love either one but for you and the Network you are on, go with the T-mobile Galaxy S3. That's my advice, take it or leave it.
I work for tmobile, But opted for sprint. as far as the notes in our internal files show. theres only a tentative Q4 timeframe for MAJOR cities. the only city that seems to be getting any love is SF with tmobile investing 4 billion dollars into the network buying up spectrum just so they have the chance to grab up more iphone users. some of you very well may be out of luck for quite a while. tmobile is content to let you roam until you hit certain limits then theyll terminate you under ERR(Extreme Roaming) great thing about that is it saves you an early 200 dollar term fee.
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I work for tmobile, But opted for sprint. as far as the notes in our internal files show. theres only a tentative Q4 timeframe for MAJOR cities. the only city that seems to be getting any love is SF with tmobile investing 4 billion dollars into the network buying up spectrum just so they have the chance to grab up more iphone users. some of you very well may be out of luck for quite a while. tmobile is content to let you roam until you hit certain limits then theyll terminate you under ERR(Extreme Roaming) great thing about that is it saves you an early 200 dollar term fee.
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Seems to me all T-Mobile cares about is the iPhone, all their ads and I mean ALL OF THEM! Include the iPhone. So annoying. They advertise the iPhone more than their own devices.
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I don't know why you all are talking about LTE, the INTL version doesn't support LTE period. HSPA+ 21 is all it supports and that is on AT&T network. If I were you, I would get the TMO version even if the quad core supported TMO's 4G, I feel the Snapdragon S4 in the T999 is on par or better than the quad core in the International GS3 mainly because the S4 chip is built off the A15 architecture while the quad is A9. I've held them both for 30 minutes because I was in the same predicament you are in and I chose T-Mobile's version because it felt snappier. You can search YouTube as well, there are plenty YouTube videos on on this very subject comparing the two phones. There mostly no difference in speed, and that should tell you a lot about the chip in this phone. If you're a hardcore user, this chip can handle any and all task you and the Play Store can through at it and some, not only because of the awesome S4 chip, but because the 2GB of RAM. This phone is ridiculous. You will love either one but for you and the Network you are on, go with the T-mobile Galaxy S3. That's my advice, take it or leave it.
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wow that was a great answer. Thank you very much this just made up my mind
To be honest with you, tmobile is really interested in the iphone, they dont want to invest the cash in tmobile is in a really unfortunate position and its all due to the piss poor decisions they are making. the Tmobile GS3 is better than the internaional one imo and loads better than the iphone but the internal document i read, actually advocated telling the users they were investing 4 billion into one specific city receiving iphone capabilities even though 1/4 of our call volume is "theres no service in my area" honestly if tmobiles sim subsidy unlocking practices werent so much better than At&ts i wouldnt even view them as a viable option =/
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I work for tmobile, But opted for sprint. as far as the notes in our internal files show. theres only a tentative Q4 timeframe for MAJOR cities. the only city that seems to be getting any love is SF with tmobile investing 4 billion dollars into the network buying up spectrum just so they have the chance to grab up more iphone users. some of you very well may be out of luck for quite a while. tmobile is content to let you roam until you hit certain limits then theyll terminate you under ERR(Extreme Roaming) great thing about that is it saves you an early 200 dollar term fee.
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WOW, I just left Sprint after 12 yrs and my Evo LTE for the TMO GS3. I get 15% discount on both but TMO is $40 cheaper per month for 3 lines with 5,2,2 data unlimted min and 500min for 3rd line. Sprint has crept up by $39 on my 3 lines over the last 2yrs with data increase and ins increase. I got tired of the below 1mbps 3G speeds and the nonexistent LTE while living in one of the LTE launch cities. Loving my cheaper plan with HSPA+ getting double digit dl speeds.
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i personal got the t-mobile s3 t-999 and i like its fast and responsive no real issues i noticed
IRIE4IPIER has some good advice, and is right on. If you do opt for the international version, be prepared for a very slow network experience on T-Mobile. Also, about the quad-core vs dual-core thing. I would definitely opt for the 2GB RAM dual-core over the 1GB RAM quad-core on these phones. The S4 CPU in the dual-core version is no slouch, and it is A15-ish. The Exynos, of course, is great, but there is nothing that you can do on the international version (assuming you are in the U.S. and not continuously running AnTuTu benchmarks) that you cannot do on the T-Mobile version. Conversely, there are many things that you will not be able to do on the international version.
Edit: Ok, seems as though you made your decision. Congrats.
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wow that was a great answer. Thank you very much this just made up my mind
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you were trying to base your choice on pure speculation, as well. as of now, there is no actual, tangible release date for a network upgrade. if you bought the international version, you'd be stuck with slow mobile speeds, for what reason? because of 2 more CPUs and less ram?
good thing you made the right choice :good:
Ok, thread's been sitting but let me 2c it.
The current t-mobile network performance on the quad s3 is astoundingly bad, hopefully once they implement it will be better. Even though I knew this, I still opted for the int version because of the quad core. I consistently max out processors, so was looking for the quad and was extremely disappointed that we got the dumbed-down version in the states. Used to that though (lower performance imports, electronics, no diesels, etc, etc)
Could the quad core have worked with our current network? Of course, t-mobile made the requisite radio hardware changes for the upcoming network. Anyway, the other concern was the lack of an additional gig of ram. The solution for this problem is enabling linux-style swap on the kernel. On the former Galaxy S kernels, developers shied away from this citing it did not really work. This always frustrated me, as it does work and that's why linux uses it. The question is if it's effective on the Android system. Well, Android is constructed along the principals of linux.
Also, take note that both Windows 7 and Windows 8 ask if you want to enable you're flash drive as swap. Windows finally caught on to this too. (Sorry Mac, you're still a little slow, but your products certainly cost enough!)
Anyway, one of our developers is enabling swap in his kernel now (SiyahKernel).
Availible here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1709686
And with full rom build and installer here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1734643
(Note: This kernel is for ICS and not LB, it's why I'm sticking with ICS now)
Here's a great write-up on enabling swap: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1814311&highlight=4+1
Ok, I've tested the T-Mobile s3 multiple times and found the quad scores (I know, I know) to be in the lower 4000's. Non-oc'd the int s3 was able to barely break into the 5000's.
Overclocked with SetCPU (has to be kernel enabled, the Siyah kernel allows this) and swap enabled (1 gig, class-10 sd), I was able to achieve 6230 on Quadrant Standard.
Not too damn shabby!
(Thanks Dev's)
Only question is, will there be any work-a-round to speed up the int on T-Mobile prior to the HSPA+?
Don't know.
dont be a fool! go with tmobile!!!
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dont be a fool! go with tmobile!!!
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If he wanted the int version it's his choice to make and that doesn't make him a fool.
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Hello,
I have both phones, and I find it very hard to choose one. If I pick the i9100, I'll be forced to switch to AT&T and pay more per month. However, the international version feels way smoother. I guess the Exynos really does make a difference.
Here is a comparison between the two phones, based on what I have experienced so far:
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Pros: T-Mobile version:
* NFC
* 3.5G data on T-Mobile's network
Cons: T-Mobile version:
* heavier, thicker
* Snapdragon SoC
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Debatable issues:
* Screen size - Personally, I think the resolution looks better on the 4.3" screen, but some would prefer a larger screen regardless of resolution.
* Design - The square edges and central button look better than any of the U.S. variants (in my opinion). Also, that big ass T-Mobile stamp on the phone's face is kind of annoying.
* Build quality - To me, the i9100 feels more "premium" when you hold it in your hand.
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Pros: i9100 international version:
* Exynos SoC - definitely feels faster
* thinner, lighter
Cons: i9100 international version:
* will either have to switch to AT&T or stay on 2G
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The one thing that most people dislike about the T989 is the lack of development. However, I don't think this is a valid complaint and have excluded it from my comparison. Honestly, "official" ICS from Samsung is a buggy piece of ****. MIUI v4 is based on this horrible build from Samsung as well (instead of . CM9 is the only real advantage that the i9100 has in terms of development. Yet even that has many problems. Overall, they don't have it that much better than us if you are only talking about software. But really, I think that anyone who has purchased a carrier branded device should have understood the implications. To me, the real comparison is with hardware/design.
Also, if anyone wants me to run any certain tests to compare the devices, I could do it since I currently have both.
I really like the i9100, but I'm worried about switching to AT&T. I wonder if I would be able to have a T-Mobile talk/text plan and an AT&T data plan on the same phone? Does anyone know the details of T-Mobile's future plans for the 1900 band? From what I have read, it still seems that it is unconfirmed whether non-AWS phones will work on T-Mobile data in the future.
Anyone have some advice for this scenario? Also feel free to discuss any of the issues in my comparison.
Why not wait for the sgs3?
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Why not wait for the sgs3?
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Well, it's not that I'm choosing which phone to buy; I have both already. The issue still applies if the SGS3 was to come out, though. If T-Mobile doesn't support non-AWS data by the time the GS3 was released; I'd still be in the same situation. It's really unlikely that the phone will support the 1700MHz band.
I've heard rumours about 1900MHz being enabled for HSPA on T-Mobile, but I haven't seen any proof about this yet.
No you caint have data with one carrier and voice on another. The only way this could even be a possibility is with a dual sim phone and even then dont know if you could as I have no experience with a phone like that. Suppose you could use two different sims that you swapped in and out with a shutdown and flash your radio depending on what sim you had in? Dont think that is what you had in mind though.
I really love my T989, Its fast looks great and I get great data speeds when I am in town (7-16 megs down 1.5 up) all for a lot less each month than at&t. I do wish there was more AOSP for my phone but the roms that are available are really nice and it seems a bit refined at this point.
Yet to see any practical use of NFC for me.
I simply don't find 2g speeds tolerable in any sense of the word.
Why not use the $45 unlimited ST plan using AT&T towers? 3g speeds, no contract, etc.. i9100 FTW!
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We had this thread before what people don't understand the original galaxy S2 has had software improvements over the year since it's been released to icecream sandwich. Samsung has been exclusively working on improving the device since release. They just recently got started with Qualcomm processor.
I did this experiment with with a friend that had the sprint galaxy S2. Both were rooted with custom roms. Both had custom kernels.
We switch phones for a week. There both good phones. Playing games got the sprint version extremely hot. No idea why. Battery Life was better on the tmobile device. Probably susceptible to networks.. Both had stock browser checker boarding.
Exynos gave better benchmarks. Apps started slightly faster? It was really negligible though. Sometimes The Qualcomm processor will start up faster than Exynos. Most of the time Exynos would win. But it was to a point by milliseconds.
I wouldn't be disappointed what ever device you bought. According to reddit r/android the original Samsung galaxy S2 removed a lot of gingerbread enhancements for ics. So I expect to not see a difference in devices when running ics. So honestly don't worry be happy about what device you got. Next month new devices are launching so you can always sell this phone for it.
what is the maximum speed you can get with the i9100 on tmobils network?
5-6mpbs?
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I wouldn't be disappointed what ever device you bought. According to reddit r/android the original Samsung galaxy S2 removed a lot of gingerbread enhancements for ics. So I expect to not see a difference in devices when running ics. So honestly don't worry be happy about what device you got. Next month new devices are launching so you can always sell this phone for it.
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It's not that I'm considering which device to buy.. I have both already.
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what is the maximum speed you can get with the i9100 on tmobils network?
5-6mpbs?
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More like 0.01mbps. But I am on wifi 80% of time.
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what is the maximum speed you can get with the i9100 on tmobils network?
5-6mpbs?
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Edge since it doesn't support the bands.
Yeah but the edge speed is not even the decent edge speed you get on other phones like the iphone.. It is horrible slow edge speed
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I had the international version, and I sold it for this one just because of the data speeds. Att was horrible for me at work where I play the most on it. But on the international version I think there were around 20 roms that I could get my crack head flash fix with. I miss having all the options to play with. Like a day after I bought this the sky rocket came out and Kansas city is a test market for there lte so I could have had it. But all in all the data was more important so I am happy with this.
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yeah hopefully the sgs3 will support multiple bands and work on basically every carrier. i9100s speeds are too low on tmobil.
if you usw tmobil, our phone is your best option
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yeah hopefully the sgs3 will support multiple bands and work on basically every carrier. i9100s speeds are too low on tmobil.
if you usw tmobil, our phone is your best option
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That's the problem. The AWS (1700MHz) band used by T-Mobile is only shared by a few small Canadian carriers. There is no reason that an international phone would enable this band. Maybe if we get really lucky, they will enable it. But the chances are slim.
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That's the problem. The AWS (1700MHz) band used by T-Mobile is only shared by a few small Canadian carriers. There is no reason that an international phone would enable this band. Maybe if we get really lucky, they will enable it. But the chances are slim.
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Galaxy Nexus enables it. So Samsung already has the tech there to do it. I, too, hope that all their future phones will be pentaband UMTS.
As the other guy said, why not go to ST $45 unlimited plan leave the int version?
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Galaxy Nexus enables it. So Samsung already has the tech there to do it. I, too, hope that all their future phones will be pentaband UMTS.
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it depends on the chip. the reason we have an s3 is because exynos wont do our hspa+ bands
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I prefer the look of the T989 over the international variants, as well as the bigger screen. I use my phone all day long.
BUT...it's the damn carrier branding that I hate.
I would love to find a Telus T989D with no carrier branding
I pretty much spam this everywhere but with the darkside 2.5.1 ROM and kernel, 989 is perfect to me and almost the same as 9100.
In my area tm is the only 4g, no lte so I get 16mb where att 3g is only 2.
Att sucks.
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I pretty much spam this everywhere but with the darkside 2.5.1 ROM and kernel, 989 is perfect to me and almost the same as 9100.
In my area tm is the only 4g, no lte so I get 16mb where att 3g is only 2.
Att sucks.
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see thats the thing. if ur on tmobil... and ur going to drop $500 on a phone, ours is the best pick. obviously if ur on verison or att there are better choices for those networksm
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Question to anyone I called sprint and asked about the Lte roll out dates of course there is not much of a schedule to it if any but they said we have Lte capable devices out so I said if I purchase a lte capable device will I be without 4g until lte reaches my area they said no the lte devices can run wimax and lte so if that is the case why can't our epic touch run lte when it becomes available in our area.I think they are full of sh!t and just saying that to get us to buy a new lte phone.Unless the new phones will have hardware in them that allows them to run to different types of technology
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I guess it's possible that new phones could have hardware that works with LTE and WiMax, but I can't confirm this. I agree that the person you spoke with could be feeding you BS. It's been my experience that Sprint is a very dysfunctional company. I wouldn't trust anything they say that's not in writing!
As far as the E4GT being able to use LTE, I think it's lacking the hardware to do so. Maybe someone with more knowledge on LTE can comment.
There is no phone with wimax and lte .....none ....there is a pc card that will have both but no phone will be able to get wimax and lte ....they are 2 different radios
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Fact is the Epic 4G Touch, can not and will not run on LTE - EVER. The Exynos processor is not LTE compatible, therefor the Skyrocket variants both have Snapdragons in them.
As for other phones, it would be theoretically possible to build a phone with both radios but that would be dumb, because space in the phone is tight to begin with, plus it would suck on the batter twice as much. I believe there is a rumor that the Photon may have both in it, but I really doubt it, and I also really doubt that any new LTE phones would have "old" WiMax radios built into them.
Sprint told me that our epic 4g touch will work on lte.... I know this not to be true..... Just remember that those wonderful customer service reps do not spend the time researching our devices like we do... So they are very mis informed
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Fact is the Epic 4G Touch, can not and will not run on LTE - EVER. The Exynos processor is not LTE compatible, therefor the Skyrocket variants both have Snapdragons in them.
As for other phones, it would be theoretically possible to build a phone with both radios but that would be dumb, because space in the phone is tight to begin with, plus it would suck on the batter twice as much. I believe there is a rumor that the Photon may have both in it, but I really doubt it, and I also really doubt that any new LTE phones would have "old" WiMax radios built into them.
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http://www.gottabemobile.com/2012/04/24/motorola-photon-q-lte-rumored-to-come-to-sprint-this-year/
Looks like there will be a new Photon that will have lte capability. The present one probably does not.
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Sprint told me that our epic 4g touch will work on lte.... I know this not to be true..... Just remember that those wonderful customer service reps do not spend the time researching our devices like we do... So they are very mis informed
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I know they talk to you like your dumb I called in to sprint about another issue and I'm due for an upgrade do they were telling me about the new lte phones
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There is no phone with wimax and lte .....none ....there is a pc card that will have both but no phone will be able to get wimax and lte ....they are 2 different radios
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I pretty much knew that but hey they want us to sign for 2 more years
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It's pretty dumb that they got three different radios going at the same time they need to have more LTE coverage before they made the phone and just start closing WiMAX customers
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There is ONE Sprint device that can run EV-DO, LTE, and WiMax, and that is their upcoming hotspot. That's it. I was a technician at Sprint, and to sum it up like the other guys said, it is impossible for WiMax devices to pick up LTE, and also even if you implemented an LTE modem into the Epic 4G Touch, Exynos wouldn't work with it. Not even the new generation of Exynos processors does LTE, so prepare to be disappointed when the Sprint S3 has a Snapdragon S4 (which isn't bad). I think this is gonna be like OG Evo vs OG Epic, where the Evo 4G LTE is gonna win.
Me personally? I just got my Galaxy Nexus (Sprint version of course). Trying development vs power this time. I don't like the route HTC is going with bootloader unlocks that aren't real unlocks. Plus I only paid $400 for this baby
Once LTE service his your area, and BTW, San Antonio, Dallas, and Houston are all in the process now of roll out, you will still have service with 4G, but no you will not get LTE service, the performance difference is noticeable, but not enough to run out and buy a new phone over. Those who still have dinosaurs that do not have 4G capability, as well as crapPhone owners well lose service as 3G is phased out, hence the coming crapPhone 5 which is an LTE phone. E4GT well not be LTE compatible, however GS3 IS an LTE phone with the superior quad core Exynos processor that has been fixed to support LTE and benchmarked higher than any other phone currently available or set for release soon. So, if you are thinking of upgrading to be LTE ready when it happens, research your phone and it's stats, in the end, only you can decide which phone is best for you and your needs, study the processors for phones you are considering, check benchmark scores, and ask people you see with those phones their opinion...in the end your choice can't be wrong if it meets your needs
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There is ONE Sprint device that can run EV-DO, LTE, and WiMax, and that is their upcoming hotspot. That's it. I was a technician at Sprint, and to sum it up like the other guys said, it is impossible for WiMax devices to pick up LTE, and also even if you implemented an LTE modem into the Epic 4G Touch, Exynos wouldn't work with it. Not even the new generation of Exynos processors does LTE, so prepare to be disappointed when the Sprint S3 has a Snapdragon S4 (which isn't bad). I think this is gonna be like OG Evo vs OG Epic, where the Evo 4G LTE is gonna win.
Me personally? I just got my Galaxy Nexus (Sprint version of course). Trying development vs power this time. I don't like the route HTC is going with bootloader unlocks that aren't real unlocks. Plus I only paid $400 for this baby
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Galaxy Nexus is a decent phone. The coming hotspot is getting horrible reviews about constant LOS problems, and the US gs3, Sprint or otherwise, will have the Exynos processors, again, a little research and digging goes a long way....Snapdragon 4 is a decent processor, agreed, and as a former OG EVO owner, I believe that once again just as OG EVO vs OG EPIC, Samsung and the GS3 will prove to be the superior device, just in case though
I am getting my EVO 4G lte on release day, and adding a third line to get the Blue GS3, winner stays with me, and loser goes to some lucky bidder on EBay, be watching for an EVO 4G LTE listed by same screen name, current benchmarks on both phones show result, but I wanna test on my own. The added line will get a new whichever phone wins, and my son is super excited about his new GS3 as well...just sayin
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EDIT: the new generation of Exynos processors is currently supporting LTE, that issue was fixed, announced and proven at the phones debut in London. They'll be doing another "launch" in NYC next week, and have already confirmed Exynos in every carriers version of GS3, not gonna repeat issues seen with GS2 because carriers want to mod the device to make it their own, Samsung clearly stated..."all carriers will release phone on same day, as shipped from Samsung Corp. with only addition of carrier specific applications allowed....any carriers not agreed to release with no hardware modifications will not receive the phone as well as any carrier not prepared to offer phone on date set forth in contracts between carrier and Samsung Corp." It's about time a manufacturer put Sprint AND VERIZON in their place!
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Galaxy Nexus is a decent phone. The coming hotspot is getting horrible reviews about constant LOS problems, and the US gs3, Sprint or otherwise, will have the Exynos processors, again, a little research and digging goes a long way....Snapdragon 4 is a decent processor, agreed, and as a former OG EVO owner, I believe that once again just as OG EVO vs OG EPIC, Samsung and the GS3 will prove to be the superior device, just in case though
I am getting my EVO 4G lte on release day, and adding a third line to get the Blue GS3, winner stays with me, and loser goes to some lucky bidder on EBay, be watching for an EVO 4G LTE listed by same screen name, current benchmarks on both phones show result, but I wanna test on my own. The added line will get a new whichever phone wins, and my son is super excited about his new GS3 as well...just sayin
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EDIT: the new generation of Exynos processors is currently supporting LTE, that issue was fixed, announced and proven at the phones debut in London. They'll be doing another "launch" in NYC next week, and have already confirmed Exynos in every carriers version of GS3, not gonna repeat issues seen with GS2 because carriers want to mod the device to make it their own, Samsung clearly stated..."all carriers will release phone on same day, as shipped from Samsung Corp. with only addition of carrier specific applications allowed....any carriers not agreed to release with no hardware modifications will not receive the phone as well as any carrier not prepared to offer phone on date set forth in contracts between carrier and Samsung Corp." It's about time a manufacturer put Sprint AND VERIZON in their place!
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Actually, aside from being CDMA, the the Sprint version was the best. I has a 4.5 inch screen and notification light.
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"all carriers will release phone on same day, as shipped from Samsung Corp. with only addition of carrier specific applications allowed....any carriers not agreed to release with no hardware modifications will not receive the phone as well as any carrier not prepared to offer phone on date set forth in contracts between carrier and Samsung Corp." It's about time a manufacturer put Sprint AND VERIZON in their place!
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And ATT, and Tmobile. I will go ahead and say I don't think Verizon will get the S3.
I'm interested to see how long it takes HTC to pull that same weight with carriers.
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Galaxy Nexus is a decent phone. The coming hotspot is getting horrible reviews about constant LOS problems, and the US gs3, Sprint or otherwise, will have the Exynos processors, again, a little research and digging goes a long way....Snapdragon 4 is a decent processor, agreed, and as a former OG EVO owner, I believe that once again just as OG EVO vs OG EPIC, Samsung and the GS3 will prove to be the superior device, just in case though
I am getting my EVO 4G lte on release day, and adding a third line to get the Blue GS3, winner stays with me, and loser goes to some lucky bidder on EBay, be watching for an EVO 4G LTE listed by same screen name, current benchmarks on both phones show result, but I wanna test on my own. The added line will get a new whichever phone wins, and my son is super excited about his new GS3 as well...just sayin
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EDIT: the new generation of Exynos processors is currently supporting LTE, that issue was fixed, announced and proven at the phones debut in London. They'll be doing another "launch" in NYC next week, and have already confirmed Exynos in every carriers version of GS3, not gonna repeat issues seen with GS2 because carriers want to mod the device to make it their own, Samsung clearly stated..."all carriers will release phone on same day, as shipped from Samsung Corp. with only addition of carrier specific applications allowed....any carriers not agreed to release with no hardware modifications will not receive the phone as well as any carrier not prepared to offer phone on date set forth in contracts between carrier and Samsung Corp." It's about time a manufacturer put Sprint AND VERIZON in their place!
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I agree 100% thanks for this detailed reply
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thirdcoastraised said:
Galaxy Nexus is a decent phone. The coming hotspot is getting horrible reviews about constant LOS problems, and the US gs3, Sprint or otherwise, will have the Exynos processors, again, a little research and digging goes a long way....Snapdragon 4 is a decent processor, agreed, and as a former OG EVO owner, I believe that once again just as OG EVO vs OG EPIC, Samsung and the GS3 will prove to be the superior device, just in case though
I am getting my EVO 4G lte on release day, and adding a third line to get the Blue GS3, winner stays with me, and loser goes to some lucky bidder on EBay, be watching for an EVO 4G LTE listed by same screen name, current benchmarks on both phones show result, but I wanna test on my own. The added line will get a new whichever phone wins, and my son is super excited about his new GS3 as well...just sayin
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EDIT: the new generation of Exynos processors is currently supporting LTE, that issue was fixed, announced and proven at the phones debut in London. They'll be doing another "launch" in NYC next week, and have already confirmed Exynos in every carriers version of GS3, not gonna repeat issues seen with GS2 because carriers want to mod the device to make it their own, Samsung clearly stated..."all carriers will release phone on same day, as shipped from Samsung Corp. with only addition of carrier specific applications allowed....any carriers not agreed to release with no hardware modifications will not receive the phone as well as any carrier not prepared to offer phone on date set forth in contracts between carrier and Samsung Corp." It's about time a manufacturer put Sprint AND VERIZON in their place!
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Do you have a source? I'm not trying to call you out or anything, I would just like to read about it some.
Pretty sure our GS3 will get the s4 dual core chip as Verizon's is has already been benchmarked with the qualcomm chip. Exynos quad is only compatible with Korea's lte atm. The LG eclipse beast will have a quad core s4 with 2gb of ram in quarter 4. Research peoples.
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Pretty sure our GS3 will get the s4 dual core chip as Verizon's is has already been benchmarked with the qualcomm chip. Exynos quad is only compatible with Korea's lte atm. The LG eclipse beast will have a quad core s4 with 2gb of ram in quarter 4. Research peoples.
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I thought that too but then I read that Canada's networks are getting the Quad Exynos. Samsung even demonstrated it supposedly.
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I thought that too but then I read that Canada's networks are getting the Quad Exynos. Samsung even demonstrated it supposedly.
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http://www.droid-life.com/2012/05/1...n-benchmark-looks-again-like-a-snapdragon-s4/
Okay I did find this..
http://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-galaxy-s3-canada-roundup-probable-price-availability-and-release-dates-82184/
but we probably won't be that lucky.
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Actually, aside from being CDMA, the the Sprint version was the best. I has a 4.5 inch screen and notification light.
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I the S3 is for me.
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Hey guys,
Looking for some opinions. I'm planning on jumping ship top the galaxy note 2. I live in the USA and I'm in an area with great LTE coverage. I'm either going to purchase the international or local variant.
I'm thinking of getting the international version because I assume development will be much greater and more accessories available.
If I wait and get the Att version I'll have access to the LTE network, but I fear there will be less development and accessories.
Any thoughts, what would you guys do?
Thanks,
Rob
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Great LTE speeds or great development. AT&T version will have the same specs as the international version. The rest is up to you to make a decision
im getting unlocked version i have a GS3 on ATT and HSAP+ is pretty good on ATT.. plus no crap ware from ATT unless you root which is the only to roll :highfive: more support on unlock.. plus HSAP+ will be more battery friendly :victory:
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im getting unlocked version i have a GS3 on ATT and HSAP+ is pretty good on ATT.. plus no crap ware from ATT unless you root which is the only to roll :highfive: more support on unlock.. plus HSAP+ will be more battery friendly :victory:
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My thoughts exacty. Received my N7100 on Monday. LTE is not available in my area anyway.
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Pinkthesink said:
Hey guys,
Looking for some opinions. I'm planning on jumping ship top the galaxy note 2. I live in the USA and I'm in an area with great LTE coverage. I'm either going to purchase the international or local variant.
I'm thinking of getting the international version because I assume development will be much greater and more accessories available.
If I wait and get the Att version I'll have access to the LTE network, but I fear there will be less development and accessories.
Any thoughts, what would you guys do?
Thanks,
Rob
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i am in the same boat, picked up the NOTE 2 7100 and honestly after using the htc one x lte for 5 months on mobile network i really havent felt deprived unless im viewing a picture heavy site. my theory is i can sell my 7100 get the att one or buy the att one stuff my 7100 in the box (after switching stickers of course) and return it.
americasteam said:
My thoughts exacty. Received my N7100 on Monday. LTE is not available in my area anyway.
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must be loving it:victory: im close to pulling the trigger..the more i go on this site and watch youtube videos about the Note 2 the closer ill buy it..im really wanting a 32GB due to i dont know why we cant run apps from SD cards or burst shots saved ect and what else that only runs on internal memory..16GB now days gets eaten up quick specially when backed up roms .. the SD card reader on the NOTE supports them crazy fast reading from sandisk cards...
high end phones now days should be 32GB at the lowest phones are getting smarter/faster/higher camera MP ect and require more GB but i guess i can live with 16GB for apps only and like 3 roms backed up ect..i feel more safe with 32GB plus the note is design for content consumption i dont really talk on the phone:silly:
i miss my note 1 in a way but was just a test drive to see if i like it and i did. i dont really like 1st gen devices.
I'm agreeing with you guys about LTE, its fast but the hspa+ in this area is real good as well. Plus there's no telling what Att will do to the device, bootloader and all. I think I'll go the intl route for now. Any ideas on foreign suppliers right now, I've used clove on the UK for the original note and gs2 with great success.
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I prefer international version too but I'm having such a bad luck with data speed. I can barely go over 1mbps, if I'm lucky 2mbps at the most. I know my location has LTE coverage but doesn't seem hspa+ friendly. It's so frustrating, for that reason I might try att LTE version since specs are most identical.
As for accessories, I don't think there will be too much difference. Int & US S3 has just about same amount of accessories availability. I assume it will be same for Note 2.
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One thing I don't see a lot of people mentioning is the tethering capabilities of the international version.
That is the main reason why I went with the international version of the US version HTC One X, Galaxy S3 and now the Note 2 was for the built in tethering.
With the US version, as soon as I tried tethering a device to it, it requires me to add an appropriate more expensive data plan before I can connect.
With the international versions, I tether all day to them with my laptop, my other wifi devices ect. without incurring any extra charges or making any changes to my current data plan.
That my friend, is way worth it for me to go with the international version.
Once you got LTE, you never go back...thats me though. Same exact specs plus LTE? Also it should be out in a week or two? Id wait.
So people who have Note 2 in the US how are your data speeds are seeing a big difference in not having the LTE version? I live in a non LTE area does affect me?
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So people who have Note 2 in the US how are your data speeds are seeing a big difference in not having the LTE version? I live in a non LTE area does affect me?
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Comparing my international note2 to my wife's galaxy S3 with AT&T's LTE service, she gets faster data speeds - at least 2x what I can get (and sometimes even 4-5x times what I can get.) (I get about 4 to 7 down while I've seen hers go as high as 25 down.) However, it's really not noticable for web browsing, email, etc. The only time I noticed any difference (outside of the speedtest benchmark app) was when downloading something from the google play store. Even that isn't an issue for me, as I usually don't download from the play store when I'm not home (and on wifi.)
Having the LTE device will result in heavier battery usage (even in a non-LTE area.) Until the devices start showing up, however, it's impossible to say what the difference will be. It might be an extremely power efficient LTE chip, or it might not be. The extra drain will be most noticable when the device is connected to the LTE network and data is transfering. Even when NOT using data or not connected to LTE, it will still drain extra power (as the extra LTE chip will be powered and will occassionally search for an LTE connection.)
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Comparing my international note2 to my wife's galaxy S3 with AT&T's LTE service, she gets faster data speeds - at least 2x what I can get (and sometimes even 4-5x times what I can get.) (I get about 4 to 7 down while I've seen hers go as high as 25 down.) However, it's really not noticable for web browsing, email, etc. The only time I noticed any difference (outside of the speedtest benchmark app) was when downloading something from the google play store. Even that isn't an issue for me, as I usually don't download from the play store when I'm not home (and on wifi.)
Having the LTE device will result in heavier battery usage (even in a non-LTE area.) Until the devices start showing up, however, it's impossible to say what the difference will be. It might be an extremely power efficient LTE chip, or it might not be. The extra drain will be most noticable when the device is connected to the LTE network and data is transfering. Even when NOT using data or not connected to LTE, it will still drain extra power (as the extra LTE chip will be powered and will occassionally search for an LTE connection.)
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Gary
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Thank you for that information so despite the the data speeds are you satisfied with the Int Note 2 or do you think you will switching to the US version?
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I have never owned an LTE phone and seem to do just fine on HSPA+. My Note 2 will here Monday (from Newegg) and I'll just use it as I do every other HSPA+ phone. If it meets my needs (streaming netflix/radio/tethering) I'll just keep it. If the AT&T version is super power efficient and screams on LTE without sucking (bloatware, locked down, etc) I'll just sell my mint international Note 2 and move on with my life and get the AT&T version.
Win-win.
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Thank you for that information so despite the the data speeds are you satisfied with the Int Note 2 or do you think you will switching to the US version?
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Most likely, I'll keep the international version. I expect AT&T to sell their LTE version for 750 off contract (75 more than I paid for the international), it'll be bloated (as every AT&T device is), locked to AT&T frequencies and SIMs, and I don't think it'll be as well supported by the open community as the n7100.
Finally, I think it'll be at least one more generation of chips before LTE is power efficient enough for me. I simply don't do anything with my phone that really takes advantage of the LTE speeds - so the extra battery drain from the LTE support isn't worth it for me.
If I used my phone for tethering, on the other hand, I probably wouldn't even consider the non-LTE handsets anymore (and would keep a spare battery or two.)
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Any idea what size sim card will be used for the AT&T version? Should be regular size right? That is my only concern because I don't want to have to cut my regular sized sim card if I were to get the international version. Unless AT&T will use micro sim too... if that's the case then I could just buy the international version now since I'll be cutting my sim card either way.. and I don't really need LTE and AT&T's bloatware.
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Any idea what size sim card will be used for the AT&T version? Should be regular size right? That is my only concern because I don't want to have to cut my regular sized sim card if I were to get the international version. Unless AT&T will use micro sim too... if that's the case then I could just buy the international version now since I'll be cutting my sim card either way.. and I don't really need LTE and AT&T's bloatware.
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microSIM. Pretty much all new phones these days are micro. It's the new standard.
What carriers are you guys using to tether?
Just curious because i was considering straight talk but its against their ToS to tether.
just something i found on youtube!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oz6frJcsAh0
LTE version of note 2 bench marked lower then the N7100
turilo said:
just something i found on youtube!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oz6frJcsAh0
LTE version of note 2 bench marked lower then the N7100
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Lol totally disregard my last post lte note 2 is the same in benchmark tests
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I was talking to a Best Buy Mobile employee(probably my first mistake). But he said he confirmed that the US version would be dual core. I have no reason to believe him but has anyone else heard that? I tried to find anything about this on the Note 2 forums but found nothing.
Everything points to quad. I'm more concerned about the lack of Wolfson DAC in the AT&T version...which is probably a given.
The Exynos 4412 has a 2nd variant with a LTE modem, so the US will get a quad-core as well.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...op-five-us-carriers-in-time-for-the-holidays/
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i was talking to a best buy mobile employee(probably my first mistake). But he said he confirmed that the us version would be dual core. I have no reason to believe him but has anyone else heard that? I tried to find anything about this on the note 2 forums but found nothing.
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At least I did preface it with a doubt of trust heh.
Turbotab said:
The Exynos 4412 has a 2nd variant with a LTE modem, so the US will get a quad-core as well.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...op-five-us-carriers-in-time-for-the-holidays/
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Frankly I was surprised they didn't have this quad core variant ready for the US carrier S3 but I find the Note2 far more compelling anyway.. In that class I prefer the HTCOneX variants but the Note2 is in its own king class of handsets. Every time I'm reminded of its features, it makes it that much harder to put up with my 22 month old EVO. The Note 2 should hold up far better than our current handsets but I wouldn't be surprised if the Note 3 has a 1080p screen with stereo speakers clocked at 2+GHz with 12+MP amazing camera features & additional enhancements-functionality prompting another interest in upgrading next year..
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Frankly I was surprised they didn't have this quad core variant ready for the US carrier S3 but I find the Note2 far more compelling anyway.. In that class I prefer the HTCOneX variants but the Note2 is in its own king class of handsets. Every time I'm reminded of its features, it makes it that much harder to put up with my 22 month old EVO. The Note 2 should hold up far better than our current handsets but I wouldn't be surprised if the Note 3 has a 1080p screen with stereo speakers clocked at 2+GHz with 12+MP amazing camera features & additional enhancements-functionality prompting another interest in upgrading next year..
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Oh it will be a nice upgrade for me too. Change from this old Thunderbolt heh. I've kinda wondered since the thunderbolt was one of the first 4g phones(the first?) would a newer phone actually be faster as far as data goes? I'm still a noob to a lot of stuff and just thought I would ask.
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Oh it will be a nice upgrade for me too. Change from this old Thunderbolt heh. I've kinda wondered since the thunderbolt was one of the first 4g phones(the first?) would a newer phone actually be faster as far as data goes? I'm still a noob to a lot of stuff and just thought I would ask.
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Any modern LTE phone will smoke the Thunderbolt as it had a janky first-gen LTE chip that completely sucked.
So yeah, the Note 2 will be blazing.
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Frankly I was surprised they didn't have this quad core variant ready for the US carrier S3 but I find the Note2 far more compelling anyway.. In that class I prefer the HTCOneX variants but the Note2 is in its own king class of handsets. Every time I'm reminded of its features, it makes it that much harder to put up with my 22 month old EVO. The Note 2 should hold up far better than our current handsets but I wouldn't be surprised if the Note 3 has a 1080p screen with stereo speakers clocked at 2+GHz with 12+MP amazing camera features & additional enhancements-functionality prompting another interest in upgrading next year..
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The Exynos 4 SoC doesn't have an LTE modem in it, so any Exynos 4 powered device has to have a seperate LTE modem chip. I'm guessing there wasn't enough room with the S3 while with the Note 2 there's probably enough real estate behind the screen for it.
gmkelly001 said:
The Exynos 4 SoC doesn't have an LTE modem in it, so any Exynos 4 powered device has to have a seperate LTE modem chip. I'm guessing there wasn't enough room with the S3 while with the Note 2 there's probably enough real estate behind the screen for it.
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Seriously, nothing to do with size, see the link below, the LTE modem chip is hardly massive, it fits fine in a iPhone 5. Most likely the S3 Exynos wasn't launched with LTE, was due to time to market and the need to validate the new modem. The S3 was available first in Europe, where LTE is not yet common place, so a LTE version would have bumped the price for no benefit. There is a LTE version of Exynos S3 in the pipeline, due for release by late 2012, as Europe rolls out LTE.
http://guide-images.ifixit.net/igi/Xcm1d4MbTZVgFJfv.large
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Seriously, nothing to do with size, see the link below, the LTE modem chip is hardly massive, it fits fine in a iPhone 5. Most likely the S3 Exynos wasn't launched with LTE, was due to time to market and the need to validate the new modem. The S3 was available first in Europe, where LTE is not yet common place, so a LTE version would have bumped the price for no benefit. There is a LTE version of Exynos S3 in the pipeline, due for release by late 2012, as Europe rolls out LTE.
http://guide-images.ifixit.net/igi/Xcm1d4MbTZVgFJfv.large
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Space is usually at a premium in most smartphones, even if the components are relatively small. The iPhone 5 is a poor comparison since it's taller than the 4/4S so of course it would have more room for an LTE chip. There is already an Exynos 4 Galaxy S3 with LTE in Korea, and it is indeed thicker and heavier than the normal S3.
http://www.androidcentral.com/black-samsung-galaxy-s3-lte-jelly-bean-hands
Seems like decent evidence that it's a space issue. It's not the battery since they all use the same 2100mAh battery. Either way, this doesn't effect the US Note 2.
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Space is usually at a premium in most smartphones, even if the components are relatively small. The iPhone 5 is a poor comparison since it's taller than the 4/4S so of course it would have more room for an LTE chip. There is already an Exynos 4 Galaxy S3 with LTE in Korea, and it is indeed thicker and heavier than the normal S3.
Seems like decent evidence that it's a space issue. It's not the battery since they all use the same 2100mAh battery. Either way, this doesn't effect the US Note 2.
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Wasn't there a previous phone that was quad core international but dual core in the US? Or is it that S3 you are talking about now? Maybe that's the one I'm thinking about.
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Wasn't there a previous phone that was quad core international but dual core in the US? Or is it that S3 you are talking about now? Maybe that's the one I'm thinking about.
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The one x did that too. Internationally it was tegra 3 domestically it was s4 dual. But in that case is prefer the s4 as its newer architecture and smaller transistor size.
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Space is usually at a premium in most smartphones, even if the components are relatively small. The iPhone 5 is a poor comparison since it's taller than the 4/4S so of course it would have more room for an LTE chip. There is already an Exynos 4 Galaxy S3 with LTE in Korea, and it is indeed thicker and heavier than the normal S3.
http://www.androidcentral.com/black-samsung-galaxy-s3-lte-jelly-bean-hands
Seems like decent evidence that it's a space issue. It's not the battery since they all use the same 2100mAh battery. Either way, this doesn't effect the US Note 2.
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Android Central didn't point to any figures to back their claim about being thicker.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_S_III
SHV-E210K/L/S - The Korean Model with LTE is slightly thicker 9.0 mm vs 8.6 mm & heavier 138.5g vs 133g, but the GT-I9305 (Exynos with LTE) is exactly the same weight and dimensions as the regular international i9300, not sure why the Korean model is a tiny bit heavier, hold the press the Korean model has model RAM 2 GB vs only 1 GB in the international, hence the slightly heavier weight. OK, according to a different source the LTE international is slightly heavier (+2 grams), but the same dimension as the non-LTE international.
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=3789&c=samsung_gt-i9305_galaxy_s_iii_lte_eu
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=3495&c=samsung_gt-i9300_galaxy_s_iii_32gb
Btw, regarding the Galaxy S3 aside from a larger battery, what additional components are there that require more space than the smaller iPhone 5?, so I personally doubt think space was a factor in this case, although you are right that space is always tight in smartphones, it was more likely no LTE in Europe, would create a higher cost and worse battery life for the consumer for no additional benefit. Anyway, maybe we are both wrong and Samsung wanted to piss off the early adopters, by releasing a LTE version with twice the RAM a few months later
Probably just coincidence but I've wondered if some current phones actually get better data speeds than others? I went to the verizon store and used the speedtest app on an sg3 and a maxx razer hd and the sg3 only got 8-10MB and the razer got 25MB on the same 4g network in the store. It sounds too far apart to be a coincidence...
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Probably just coincidence but I've wondered if some current phones actually get better data speeds than others? I went to the verizon store and used the speedtest app on an sg3 and a maxx razer hd and the sg3 only got 8-10MB and the razer got 25MB on the same 4g network in the store. It sounds too far apart to be a coincidence...
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Both the Verizon Galaxy S3 and the Razr Maxx HD use the same Qualcomm S4 SoC with the same LTE modem built into it. Not sure why you got different speedtest results but it's probably not because of the hardware. Could possibly be antenna design, but I doubt it.
Hellron said:
Probably just coincidence but I've wondered if some current phones actually get better data speeds than others? I went to the verizon store and used the speedtest app on an sg3 and a maxx razer hd and the sg3 only got 8-10MB and the razer got 25MB on the same 4g network in the store. It sounds too far apart to be a coincidence...
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Of course... all the time...
gmkelly001 said:
Both the Verizon Galaxy S3 and the Razr Maxx HD use the same Qualcomm S4 SoC with the same LTE modem built into it. Not sure why you got different speedtest results but it's probably not because of the hardware. Could possibly be antenna design, but I doubt it.
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Antenna design/placement/material could have a VERY huge factor. Hardware probably isn't the best explanation
I would have got the s3 if it was quad core. Definitely a buying factor for me that the note 2 is quad.
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Both the Verizon Galaxy S3 and the Razr Maxx HD use the same Qualcomm S4 SoC with the same LTE modem built into it. Not sure why you got different speedtest results but it's probably not because of the hardware. Could possibly be antenna design, but I doubt it.
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That makes sense but that still confuses me how it would be that different. Hopefully the note 2 will be closer to the maxx hd in speeds.
I aquired the ATT version and sold it because
1. We don't; have LTE and won't for another upgrade
2. I like the lower battery and data consumption of the FM Radio
3.We share 1GB data on legitimate Family share plan with one International "(dumbphone SGS II i9100) and my International Note I declared as a smart phone to get the family share plan. (cannot get that UL messaging Talk shared data plan with two "Feature phones" I am using the APN that came with the ATT version I upgraded for and sold on my Note.
4. The development community is huge already and FW udates are realesed there first. I am already running XXLA on my Note 1.
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tbong777 said:
I aquired the ATT version and sold it because
1. We don't; have LTE and won't for another upgrade
2. I like the lower battery and data consumption of the FM Radio
3.We share 1GB data on legitimate Family share plan with one International "(dumbphone SGS II i9100) and my International Note I declared as a smart phone to get the family share plan. (cannot get that UL messaging Talk shared data plan with two "Feature phones" I am using the APN that came with the ATT version I upgraded for and sold on my Note.
4. The development community is huge already and FW udates are realesed there first. I am already running XXLA on my Note 1.
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1. I live 30 min from ATT headquarters. LTE blows hspa+ outta the water.
2. I get 6+ hours screen time and 2 days off charger on my lte note.
3. Upgrade your data plan.
4. Development? Its not hard to learn and teach yourself. You will notice nothing between 4.1.1 and 4.1.2, except some settings moved around.
5. 7100 ROMs work on the att note.
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1. I live 30 min from ATT headquarters. LTE blows hspa+ outta the water.
2. I get 6+ hours screen time and 2 days off charger on my lte note.
3. Upgrade your data plan.
4. Development? Its not hard to learn and teach yourself. You will notice nothing between 4.1.1 and 4.1.2, except some settings moved around.
5. 7100 ROMs work on the att note.
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I "get it" You love the ATT version and you develop your own ROMs however I am asking people on ATT using an International device in an International forum who do not develop ROMs if they would have preferred the ATT version now and why. Not who already has the ATT version and loves it. That said it seems seems no one on ATT is unhappy with their N7100.
I Don't need to use much data with the FM Radio. Why pay for something I am getting free or worse I won't use? $115 a month for two smart phones is a bargain. .Another $300+ a year for 4GB of unused data not so much....
Regarding LTE speeds, we all know the frustration of downloading a 700mb ROM on 'high speed" cable at 100kb a second despite our measured 15mps download benchmark speeds on Speednet. LOL
3G+ is plenty fast enough for most web browsing which is ultimately dependent on the web site. LTE looks great on speed tests, on paper, and may save a few minutes here and there downloading and may be very nice for someone who does not have another form of Internet source most of the time. But a few extra seconds of page loading won;t make a whole lot of difference on a mobile device as long as video and music streams seamlessly.
I don't have the time and especially the inclination to learn how to develop code for these devices, I'd rather have a choice of using another's passionate work with the shared results of their hobby.
Those of us without LTE for another year or so don't need the ATT badged phone. I had it. I tried it. I flashed a Rom on it. I sold it cheap .I am holding out for a great deal on a 7100 because I have the ROM already and can wait another $100 or so for the rest of the Note 2 goodies.
I am very happy with my international N2 on AT&T. My 3g speeds average 6-7. There is not LTE where I live, nor will there be for a good while. I have no real concerns about having LTE on my phone with limited data...
I'm fine with the International version. No regrets.
No regrets here. LTE is a long way off where I live. HSPA+ is plenty fast enough.
Thanks guys. I did the right thing. Now I wait for a better price while I rock XXLSA on the N7000
What APNs are you using? Cingular wap or ATT Phone?. I l am on using the Shared data plan I upgraded for with the option of switching back to the MediaNet UL data plan.
I'm using AT&T PTA. I get 6-8 down on average. With wap cingular I only get 3-5 down.
americasteam said:
I'm using AT&T PTA. I get 6-8 down on average. With wap cingular I only get 3-5 down.
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Thanks Good news I am glad I got the new SIM then and provisioned for a smart phone.
I have no regrets. I have the peace of mind knowing that AT&T hasn't tampered with my device in any way in order to monitor activities and/or limit features that are present to me out-of-the box. As for LTE, it's pointless to me the way things are right now. I mean, what need have I for a connection rivaling my home internet speeds, when I'm faced with overages or throttling? HSPA+ is plenty for me.
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I have no regrets. I have the peace of mind knowing that AT&T hasn't tampered with my device in any way in order to monitor activities and/or limit features that are present to me out-of-the box. As for LTE, it's pointless to me the way things are right now. I mean, what need have I for a connection rivaling my home internet speeds, when I'm faced with overages or throttling? HSPA+ is plenty for me.
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I just ordered on on Newegg for $599 shipped.... I agree with LTE. I have high speed internet here at home and downloading 700MB ROM files at 100KB/sec reminds me LTE is not all that. Websites determine speeds more than the carrier. The only clear advantage to LTE is when downloading or uploading large files otherwise web pages load in seconds on 3G rather than instantly. Not bad.
I put my phone up next to a Verizon SIII and compared my MediaNet 3g with their LTE. Thier's was faster by a few seconds in some cases and not even by one second in others.
can't you just disable the LTE radio (to save battery or if your area doesn't have LTE), or does that disable data/service entirely?
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can't you just disable the LTE radio (to save battery or if your area doesn't have LTE), or does that disable data/service entirely?
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I bought the International version of the Note 2 and coming from the Note 1 AT&T LTE the battery life is not even close. The note 2 gives me well over 10hrs of heavy screen-on set to auto+high, net surfing over HSPA+. I could not get 1/2 that on my LTE Note 1.
As far as disabling LTE... For my wife, coming from the Skyrocket there was an APN that would disable LTE, however the radio was still there so the battery life was not helped as much as turning it off would have been. Trully turning it "off" on the Skyrocket was not an option. For her I opted to get her the T-Mobile Note2 and unlock it and she is running on AT&T HSPA+ as well with great results.
Bottomline: Getting between 8-9000kpbs is plenty fine with me, especially if it gives me even a fraction of extra battery
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I bought the International version of the Note 2 and coming from the Note 1 AT&T LTE the battery life is not even close. The note 2 gives me well over 10hrs of heavy screen-on set to auto+high, net surfing over HSPA+. I could not get 1/2 that on my LTE Note 1.
As far as disabling LTE... For my wife, coming from the Skyrocket there was an APN that would disable LTE, however the radio was still there so the battery life was not helped as much as turning it off would have been. Trully turning it "off" on the Skyrocket was not an option. For her I opted to get her the T-Mobile Note2 and unlock it and she is running on AT&T HSPA+ as well with great results.
Bootomline: Getting between 8-9000kpbs is plenty fine with me, especially if it gives me even a fraction of extra battery
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Yeah I thought that might be the case. Mine is on the way from NewEgg. I tried the ATT version but I am too used to a vanilla Samsung device. I actually like Samsung without the ATT stuff (although I don;t use TW. ) I tried the CM and AKOP stuff but too much flashing going on and samsung does not release drivers so FM didn't work without a $10 app and the S Pen stuff was wonky. .
The stock custom roms always were my choice. I would find one development team and stick with them. DesignGears on the Cappy, CheckRom on the i9100, Eybee, N7000 and looks like Omega will be my choice with the Note II