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Hi, i've just moved to san francisco recently and i wanna get a new phone with contract. I know nexus is the best right now but which model should i choose? And i wont be buying an unlocked gsm gnex.
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I believe it was Tech TV, but when the iPhone 4 first came out for Verizon, they did a side-by-side comparison of the AT&T model & the Verizon model in San Francisco. They went to various locations around San Francisco testing signal strength, web page load times, uploads/downloads, etc and I recall that all but 1 of the tests came out as Verizon being the winner.
As far as the Galaxy Nexus goes, obviously, you can acquire it for either service. The plus with Verizon is you get 32GB rather then 16GB, although the battery drain is faster(with LTE on) and I believe Verizon's plans are still the most expensive also. Personally, I'm only on Verizon because I've got the no-longer-offered 'unlimited data' otherwise I'd say bye and go to AT&T or T-Mobile. I kinda miss having a GSM phone due to the ease in phone swapping + worldwide functionality(switching to other providers).
voxigenboy said:
I believe it was Tech TV, but when the iPhone 4 first came out for Verizon, they did a side-by-side comparison of the AT&T model & the Verizon model in San Francisco. They went to various locations around San Francisco testing signal strength, web page load times, uploads/downloads, etc and I recall that all but 1 of the tests came out as Verizon being the winner.
As far as the Galaxy Nexus goes, obviously, you can acquire it for either service. The plus with Verizon is you get 32GB rather then 16GB, although the battery drain is faster(with LTE on) and I believe Verizon's plans are still the most expensive also. Personally, I'm only on Verizon because I've got the no-longer-offered 'unlimited data' otherwise I'd say bye and go to AT&T or T-Mobile. I kinda miss having a GSM phone due to the ease in phone swapping + worldwide functionality(switching to other providers).
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So verizon lte is faster? And if i go to another country with a verizon locked gnex i cant use my gnex? That sucks. Now im more confused.
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I have vzw and it works heat for me. art just hot a signal boots in ad a few months ago but VZW is still faster
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craze96 said:
Hi, i've just moved to san francisco recently and i wanna get a new phone with contract. I know nexus is the best right now but which model should i choose? And i wont be buying an unlocked gsm gnex.
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Confused ... You are saying you won't be buying an unlocked gsm nexus and asking whether att or Verizon? Currently the nexus is available only on Verizon. If you want att, you have to buy the unlocked gsm gnex and you have no other option.
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Confused ... You are saying you won't be buying an unlocked gsm nexus and asking whether att or Verizon? Currently the nexus is available only on Verizon. If you want att, you have to buy the unlocked gsm gnex and you have no other option.
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Ill wait till it comes to atnt... Anyone can answer my question above?
Oh 1 more thing i love developing my phone (rooting, flashing n etc,) so which one should be best? I really in need a response. Ill thank every useful posts
National coverage and network: Verizon is the best. I'm happy with AT&T since it has decent coverage in major metros and I can tolerate a dropped call here and there. So if your job depend on phone calls and need network everywhere you go, Verizon is better.
International usage: ATT since you can easily swap sim cards. Some Verizon phones are world phones but I believe nexus is not.
Data speeds: nexus is lte on Verizon so it has faster data speeds compared to gsm model. Generally Verizon lte has much better coverage than att. Att just got started on lte. But att hspa speeds are more than enough. I easily get anywhere between 3 - 5 Mbps average speeds on att which is more than enough for me.
Phone choices: I love the fact that I can import unlocked phones and just pop a sim to get it working on att. But if you only buy contract phones then both network has good phone options.
Also on modding with nexus no issues, otherwise both network force manufacturers to lock bootloader. But nowadays it has gotten better with manufacturers providing option to unlock bootloaders after the device is released in a few weeks.
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National coverage and network: Verizon is the best. I'm happy with AT&T since it has decent coverage in major metros and I can tolerate a dropped call here and there. So if your job depend on phone calls and need network everywhere you go, Verizon is better.
International usage: ATT since you can easily swap sim cards. Some Verizon phones are world phones but I believe nexus is not.
Data speeds: nexus is lte on Verizon so it has faster data speeds compared to gsm model. Generally Verizon lte has much better coverage than att. Att just got started on lte. But att hspa speeds are more than enough. I easily get anywhere between 3 - 5 Mbps average speeds on att which is more than enough for me.
Phone choices: I love the fact that I can import unlocked phones and just pop a sim to get it working on att. But if you only buy contract phones then both network has good phone options.
Also on modding with nexus no issues, otherwise both network force manufacturers to lock bootloader. But nowadays it has gotten better with manufacturers providing option to unlock bootloaders after the device is released in a few weeks.
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Thanks for the lengthy response i wanna get the at&t coz its cheaper. Also i dont often call or need an internet that fast that but i think i need to wait 2 more months to have it with contract. About the modding, is one faster than the other?
I am thinking of getting the verizon right now. Anymore inputs?
verizon has double data right now so I would jump on it quick
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An entire forum of developers and not one comment about ATT in SF? Amazing!!
TO the OP, other than the above comment regarding National Coverage (verizon is better), which is true, let me speak specifically to SF:
DO NOT get ATT! The network is embarrassing bad in SF, and while I have been outside of SF for about a year now, I am sure others can speak to this. TO be fair, when I left they were investing a few million to patch it up but I am not sure where that was left. I had to move to Verizon for this simple reason alone. There was a reason it was so bad. All the Iphone users during commute hours and the network was not up to par. Lots of anger....
Verizon was great once i switched.
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An entire forum of developers and not one comment about ATT in SF? Amazing!!
TO the OP, other than the above comment regarding National Coverage (verizon is better), which is true, let me speak specifically to SF:
DO NOT get ATT! The network is embarrassing bad in SF, and while I have been outside of SF for about a year now, I am sure others can speak to this. TO be fair, when I left they were investing a few million to patch it up but I am not sure where that was left. I had to move to Verizon for this simple reason alone. There was a reason it was so bad. All the Iphone users during commute hours and the network was not up to par. Lots of anger....
Verizon was great once i switched.
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Im officially getting a verizon nexus when they are open. There is only 1 thing that im concered about. I am here for college and ill return back to my country for a couple of months on summer break. But its ok i think... Ill use my dhd in there thx for the responses guys!
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verizon has double data right now so I would jump on it quick
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I know about that offer. Thanks for answering though
mattwill1 said:
An entire forum of developers and not one comment about ATT in SF? Amazing!!
TO the OP, other than the above comment regarding National Coverage (verizon is better), which is true, let me speak specifically to SF:
DO NOT get ATT! The network is embarrassing bad in SF, and while I have been outside of SF for about a year now, I am sure others can speak to this. TO be fair, when I left they were investing a few million to patch it up but I am not sure where that was left. I had to move to Verizon for this simple reason alone. There was a reason it was so bad. All the Iphone users during commute hours and the network was not up to par. Lots of anger....
Verizon was great once i switched.
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I was surprised as well and yes you are right AT&T service is terrible in San Francisco.
I had AT&T since the first iPhone and just recently switched. AT&T was great at home and where I work but was simply infuriating when I would be in the city.
There are still some low speed areas on Verizon in SF but I have had much better luck.
Cnet covered this and did a video on it
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19512_7-20030274-233.html
Verizon is better
Never really thought about Verizon but I'm to the point were I've had it with sprints ****ty service, so i got a few questions im a little hesitant about jumping to Verizon since their Android lineup seems lackluster (getting the nexus but probably only for a year then would get another phone) anybody hear anything about them acquiring better Android phones in the future, also been to the development section an don't see much activity going on for the LTE version any reason for this? Maybe due to how new it is? Any comments about Verizon as a service provider would be welcome also...
In my opinion, Verizon gets a pretty good lineup of phones. The Galaxy Nexus, Rezound, Razr, etc. As far as a carrier, very expensive but you get what you pay for.
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Verizon gets pretty good Android handsets IMO.
I just recently moved one of my AT&T lines to Verizon. Prior to that I was with Sprint. Sprint's data speeds were horrendous in my area and EVERY area in traveled too. I can't even imagine what its like after the Iphone release. Voice was always good on Sprint. AT&T's data blew sprint out of the water. Verizon is as good if not quite as fast 3g wise as AT&T but its incredibly reliable. 4g is blazing. 3g speeds are usually 1 - 1.8mbs on Verizon 3g. 4g pushes 15mbs. AT&T's 3g was anywhere from 800k to 4mbs. Verizon is definitely more stable and works in more places.
Both are leaps and bounds better than Sprint. Also with Sprints $10 premium add on its the same price as Verizon if you use Google voice or another data type service for texting. Which is what I do and saves me the $20 a month. I don't need many minutes since if I get low I can use google voice and GrooveIP for free minutes. Once its set up and configured it works great even over 3g.
In other words, jump ship the grass is greener. Sprint's service has taken a dump the last few years and they run a serious risk of bankruptcy before they can put all the spectrum they have to any real use. They have made one mistake after another after another for a long time now.
The LTE roms are on another site mostly.
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Thanks a lot guys ^^ its really between getting the LTE nexus or GSM on tmo, an whats the deal with the litte dev support for the LTE version?
*what site josh...?
i moved from AT&T to Verizon and havent looked back, love my GN, but other phones are respectable too,RAZR,REZOUND are good phones too depending on youre tastes
Rootzwiki, but if you have the choice, get the GSM version.. much better battery life.
Cool, thanks guys great input, how much better battery we talking about?
carlost24 said:
Cool, thanks guys great input, how much better battery we talking about?
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Significant amount. LTE is quite the battery drain. All depending on use patterns of course.
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Significant amount. LTE is quite the battery drain. All depending on use patterns of course.
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It's really not that bad. I mean if you hammer it on LTE it will drain quicker than usual but it's not this destroyer of batteries that people make it out to be.
while LTE may destroy ur battery, u can always turn it off till u need it. there is plenty of dev support for the LTE version, and verizon's network coverage destroys all other three carriers put together.
also.. if u are going to pay for a data plan anyways, might as well enjoy the subsidy.
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whats the deal with the litte dev support for the LTE version?
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The GSM version works on all providers in all countries all over the earth. The LTE version works on one provider, in one country.
I think the GSM-model simply has what you may refer to as a "immensely much bigger user-base" and hence more developers than what's when you look at the cold, hard facts, is basically a carrier-phone, available on one carrier only.
If you travel out of the country often get GSM. Otherwise get the LTE model. People wanna make LTE out to be some battery black hole but its not. Sprint vs vzw is no contest. Verizon 3g is actually usable and 4g knocks my socks off. It maintains 25 megs on a heavily loaded network and gives me 50+ when its lightly loaded. Honestly development is not really a problem for me because ICS is so good.
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If you travel out of the country often get GSM. Otherwise get the LTE model. People wanna make LTE out to be some battery black hole but its not. Sprint vs vzw is no contest. Verizon 3g is actually usable and 4g knocks my socks off. It maintains 25 megs on a heavily loaded network and gives me 50+ when its lightly loaded. Honestly development is not really a problem for me because ICS is so good.
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I can't seem to get above 7 anywhere in Denver. Any chance its my phone?
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I can't seem to get above 7 anywhere in Denver. Any chance its my phone?
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It's going to vary largely due to many factors. What's your signal strength, how many other people are using 4G in your area, etc...
I was traveling through Baltimore, MD and was managing only 12 MBPS with 1 bar of signal strength on New Years Eve, which honestly, is easily more than enough for anything. Keep in mind, as time goes on, more people get 4G phones, and use them more, available bandwidth is going to go down anyway. I don't understand why people think they should get 20 MBPS anyway....what are you going to do? If you don't have an unlimited plan, what's the point? You'll use up the small amount of data allotment that you have so quick you'll never even know it.
Thanks guys i think i shall pick up the LTE tomorrow...
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Never really thought about Verizon but I'm to the point were I've had it with sprints ****ty service, so i got a few questions im a little hesitant about jumping to Verizon since their Android lineup seems lackluster (getting the nexus but probably only for a year then would get another phone) anybody hear anything about them acquiring better Android phones in the future, also been to the development section an don't see much activity going on for the LTE version any reason for this? Maybe due to how new it is? Any comments about Verizon as a service provider would be welcome also...
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I left Sprint for Verizon 3 months ago, and the extra cost is well worth it - it's like having a landline in my pocket.
As far as your assessment of the Android phone lineup, I'm not sure where you're coming from. I think they have a great lineup, although certainly it's slanted toward the Motorola line. With Google buy Motorola mobility, that should end up being a very good thing.
I also don't think they meddle with the phones nearly as much as ATT does - but I have no direct experience with ATT, just what my friends tell me.
I don't know about all your guys' locations but I live in Mesa, AZ (it is about 30 min from downtown Phoenix). I get VERY slow LTE in the city. Even with 2 bars I get ~5 down and 5 up. As far as signal strength, it isn't much different to any other 4G phones I have used. I get no data in my school's basement and the phone always seems to drop the data service. This morning I had 1X until I restarted the device. At a small town in east AZ, Verizon is the only one with data service, but it is VERY!!!! slow. 3G in Phoenix area is about .8 down (on a good day).
Was hesitant due to what im hearing about battery life on LTE, but i guess I'll deal with battery issue since i do want the 32gig option an I'm hearing nothing but good things about Verizon, any other differences between LTE an GSM version?
I drop Sprint and made the switch to Verizon. I had nothing but network problems on Sprint, crappy speed on 3g/4g network. But one thing I can say is once you make the switch to an LTE phone you’ll never go back to regular 3g/4g service! is like going from DVD to bluray.
I have T-Mobile with galaxy nexus.
I live in Chicago Northwest suburbs and coverage is pretty good and I don't travel like at all.
Let's say id pay the same each month.
What advantages would Verizon give me. Is it just lte and coverage?
But then what would T-Mobile give? Seeing as its worse coverage?
I'm more asking about the carrier rather than device differences. I've read enough threads on that.
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Stay away from Verizon, that's all i can tell you.. i just got rid of them they really expensive just cancel my service with them
Why should I stay away??
Forgetting price . Cause for me will be the same.
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It would be nice to hear from people who had both.
How were your experiences within your phone.
I never really played with a Verizon phone but does it seem things load more instant on them?
I know this deals with internet speed and ping and so on.
I would have lte here so keep that in mind. I have been with T-Mobile for so many years and just feel awkward leaving but for same price and from what I hear much better coverage and speed why not??
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verizon sucks.stay away
Come on guys explain why!!!
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I have T-Mobile with galaxy nexus.
I live in Chicago Northwest suburbs and coverage is pretty good and I don't travel like at all.
Let's say id pay the same each month.
What advantages would Verizon give me. Is it just lte and coverage?
But then what would T-Mobile give? Seeing as its worse coverage?
I'm more asking about the carrier rather than device differences. I've read enough threads on that.
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I live in Oregon and have worked for (and had) T-Mobile. I now am on Verizon.
T-Mobile was good coverage in the city which worked for me but as soon as I hit the outskirts I had edge or no coverage. The terrain where I live is very rough on a GSM phone. I could have a phone call at the top of the hill and driving to the bottom I would loose signal. CDMA doesn't have that issue because you connect to more than one tower on CDMA and coverage is amazing with Verizon, 3G everywhere even up in the mountains here.
What drew me to Verizon is their coverage, high end devices to choose from (T-Mobile only has a few good.phones every now and then). Verizon is very aggressive in investing money in their network which makes a solid reliable experience. By far, best service I have ever had hands down.
Thank you.
These kind of examples are exactly what I want to hear.
I have heard similar experiences to yours.
I'd like to hear why people do not like Verizon besides high prices .
I've heard customer service isn't the best as one but anything else??
I always felt T-Mobile had pretty good selection of phones so if Verizon's is even better that's great.
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I live in Oregon and have worked for (and had) T-Mobile. I now am on Verizon.
T-Mobile was good coverage in the city which worked for me but as soon as I hit the outskirts I had edge or no coverage. The terrain where I live is very rough on a GSM phone. I could have a phone call at the top of the hill and driving to the bottom I would loose signal. CDMA doesn't have that issue because you connect to more than one tower on CDMA and coverage is amazing with Verizon, 3G everywhere even up in the mountains here.
What drew me to Verizon is their coverage, high end devices to choose from (T-Mobile only has a few good.phones every now and then). Verizon is very aggressive in investing money in their network which makes a solid reliable experience. By far, best service I have ever had hands down.
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Verizon has good customer service I've been using them since 2001.
Their coverage is great. Cost is yes high, but for the most part, since I'm in a family plan of 3, it will cost the same (roughly).
If you want a GNex (I'm assuming it's why you posted here), buy the GSM 3G version and activate it on T-Mobile to keep the great low prices.
I currently have T-Mobile with GSM but have an oppurtunity to join gf's family plan and pay 40 a month to have more minutes than I'd ever use and unlimited texting and 4gb data.
So basically price not being a factor I'm leaning towards going with Verizon
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Verizon has good customer service I've been using them since 2001.
Their coverage is great. Cost is yes high, but for the most part, since I'm in a family plan of 3, it will cost the same (roughly).
If you want a GNex (I'm assuming it's why you posted here), buy the GSM 3G version and activate it on T-Mobile to keep the great low prices.
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I've been on all major carriers in NYC. Of the 4 Verizon has the best call quality, data speeds and customer service . It's also the most expensive. I don't mind paying a little more for good service. T-Mobile is good but in my experience it doesn't have comparable data consistency and coverage where I work and live.
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I kind of feel that my situation is similar to yours. Plus with the fact that prices would be same I think I'll go for Verizon.
I have been with T-Mobile like 7 years and just feel weird going to different provider. Maybe that's the only issue here, me missing T-Mobile lol but I bet I'll be even happier.
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I've been on all major carriers in NYC. Of the 4 Verizon has the best call quality, data speeds and customer service . It's also the most expensive. I don't mind paying a little more for good service. T-Mobile is good but in my experience it doesn't have comparable data consistency and coverage where I work and live.
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Also the lte version gets significantly worse battery life over the gsm version.
The one and only thing that bothers me but I am not getting a Droid razr maxx lol.
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Also the lte version gets significantly worse battery life over the gsm version.
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lrs421 said:
I've been on all major carriers in NYC. Of the 4 Verizon has the best call quality, data speeds and customer service . It's also the most expensive. I don't mind paying a little more for good service. T-Mobile is good but in my experience it doesn't have comparable data consistency and coverage where I work and live.
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Yeah, I agree. I've been on ATT, T-Mo, and Verizon in So Cal. As long as you stay away from ATT, you're good, lol.
claud_face said:
Thank you.
These kind of examples are exactly what I want to hear.
I have heard similar experiences to yours.
I'd like to hear why people do not like Verizon besides high prices .
I've heard customer service isn't the best as one but anything else??
I always felt T-Mobile had pretty good selection of phones so if Verizon's is even better that's great.
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Verizon has really good customer service. They've beaten T-Mobile 2-3x in a row now for customer service.
With Verizon you do need to get used to things being locked down (proprietary CDMA stuff) but if you plan on getting the gnex then I wouldn't worry. I've had 3 android phones and 1 iPhone on Verizon. The gnex is my favorite device by far, hands down
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I rather carry 3 batteries than not have LTE, just sayin'. I'm spoiled.
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Here in where I live in Bama Verizon is the ONLY carrier with reception everywhere, not only that but the LTE is amazing! The price is more expensive but actually having service outweighs it. I love my Verizon and will never go back to AT&T. That's my two cents.
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Yeah, I agree. I've been on ATT, T-Mo, and Verizon in So Cal. As long as you stay away from ATT, you're good, lol.
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Sigh, I don't miss AT&T one bit. I paid an ETF to leave them last year, I wanted to switch to VZW while they still had unlimited data. Best money I've ever spent. NYC was notorious for bad service on AT&T. Here's my rank, from MY experience. I realize there are a ton of GSM fans out there, but here's my list.
1. Verizon
2. T-Mobile
3. Sprint
4. AT&T
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I see there's a thread about getting unlimited data back on by adding tethering first then cancelling it. Apparently its been pretty successful.
If I have 4gb then afyerbthat I get throttled right?
I heard something about Verizon not throttling the lte yet just the 3g
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I looked at my notification bar and had full 4G bars. I couldn't believe it!
Edit: And full bars which I never got on regular 4G. I'm in San Antonio btw.
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Wow, things are looking up for Sprint. I left them months ago back when I had my EVO 3D. I could not stand terrible 3G and coverage.
That's a lot faster than some of the other Sprint LTE Tests I've seen. Probably not "live" yet, but testing. Enjoy it while it lasts.
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Hope I can lte here in marble falls... its a little bit away from Austin. at least a taste I don't need 33mbs at least 5 or so.
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Wow, things are looking up for Sprint. I left them months ago back when I had my EVO 3D. I could not stand terrible 3G and coverage.
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Well Sprint's LTE markets won't even be in the double digits until 2013. And a couple years after that to be "nationwide coverage". The vast majority of Sprint's customers will be on 3G for the foreseeable future.
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Well Sprint's LTE markets won't even be in the double digits until 2013. And a couple years after that to be "nationwide coverage". The vast majority of Sprint's customers will be on 3G for the foreseeable future.
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Sprint it's supposed to be done with lte by the end of2013 where U get your info...that is every tower with 3g will have lte
It's not just Sprint doing the roll out it was broken into like 5 areas and Samsung ericsson lucent are working on it too....
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Well Sprint's LTE markets won't even be in the double digits until 2013. And a couple years after that to be "nationwide coverage". The vast majority of Sprint's customers will be on 3G for the foreseeable future.
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You don't know what you're talking about.
Not getting any LTE in Houston yet
Good speeds, but the ping is about 3 times what I see with LTE on VZW
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That's a lot faster than some of the other Sprint LTE Tests I've seen. Probably not "live" yet, but testing. Enjoy it while it lasts.
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I haven't seen anyone else talking about the Sprint LTE. Have they just been testing it in different areas or have you seen official Sprint tests? I googled, but couldn't find anyone else talking about it. I'd be interested to see what other people's experience with it was, i.e. if it has been improving, signal strength, etc.
And sadly it lasted less than an hour. Luckily I caught it. But everything was extremely fast. It was awesome. If LTE gets full bars in my house I might consider getting rid of my internet...
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Sprint it's supposed to be done with lte by the end of2013 where U get your info...that is every tower with 3g will have lte
It's not just Sprint doing the roll out it was broken into like 5 areas and Samsung ericsson lucent are working on it too....
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You don't know what you're talking about.
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And why don't I? Show me their national WiMax coverage that they rolled out in the last 2 years.... right, it doesn't exist. Same will be for LTE. Sorry, but just because Sprint says they're going to roll it out by the end of 2013 doesn't mean anything to me or any other slightly skeptical person.
Believe me, I'm pulling for them. I'd love to see Sprint step it up big time and challenge AT&T and Verizon's LTE efforts, but I find it hard to believe that Sprint will ever be able to catch up. Even if they completely covered their 3G network with LTE in that time (which they just can't physically/monetarily do), they won't be catching Verizon or even AT&T by that point.
Lol right sprint won't do it everyone forgets clear was the primary doing the rollouts and yeah. The BOD wants this to happen I am sure they will make sure it happens by the deadline or before and then once that is done they can hopefully jump it down to the 800mhz band as well. I think it will and if not 24 months from now I will move on but there are more posts of LTE then I saw of WiMAX when that started.
Not to mention other cell companies that work with sprint well one anyways atm is also helping.
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Not getting any LTE in Houston yet
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Neither am I
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Hows the signal in house or in building
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And why don't I? Show me their national WiMax coverage that they rolled out in the last 2 years.... right, it doesn't exist. Same will be for LTE. Sorry, but just because Sprint says they're going to roll it out by the end of 2013 doesn't mean anything to me or any other slightly skeptical person.
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When Sprint saw the writing on the wall for WiMax, they did the smart thing and stopped investing in it.
Good for them. They instead began their LTE preparations along with beginning their Network Vision deployment. They accelerated their 800mhz refarm.
Believe me, I'm pulling for them. I'd love to see Sprint step it up big time and challenge AT&T and Verizon's LTE efforts, but I find it hard to believe that Sprint will ever be able to catch up. Even if they completely covered their 3G network with LTE in that time (which they just can't physically/monetarily do), they won't be catching Verizon or even AT&T by that point.
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Sprint has never been able to compete on coverage - 4g or otherwise. Hell, their native CDMA network is smaller than T-Mobile's network. That said, Sprint has a big ol boatload of spectrum, which means they can continue to provide unlimited data (or eventually, faster speeds) far longer than their competition can.
Now, I'm a T-Mobile customer as well as a Sprint customer, and was about to drop my Sprint line for a prepaid line, but Sprint (and T-Mobile) are on the upswing and I very much like the progress they're making.
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Lol right sprint won't do it everyone forgets clear was the primary doing the rollouts and yeah. The BOD wants this to happen I am sure they will make sure it happens by the deadline or before and then once that is done they can hopefully jump it down to the 800mhz band as well. I think it will and if not 24 months from now I will move on but there are more posts of LTE then I saw of WiMAX when that started.
Not to mention other cell companies that work with sprint well one anyways atm is also helping.
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I think Sprint could potentially do better than AT&T with their LTE rollout as AT&T seems to be going pretty slowly about it. However, VZW is lighting up more and more areas every few weeks, so I don't think anyone will catch them until VZW has started moving to another network standard. I have read that Sprint's LTE plans are very aggressive, so it could just be they are installing and testing the network in several large markets right now to turn on several cities all at once rather than just a small handful like AT&T did at the start.
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When Sprint saw the writing on the wall for WiMax, they did the smart thing and stopped investing in it.
Good for them. They instead began their LTE preparations along with beginning their Network Vision deployment. They accelerated their 800mhz refarm.
Sprint has never been able to compete on coverage - 4g or otherwise. Hell, their native CDMA network is smaller than T-Mobile's network. That said, Sprint has a big ol boatload of spectrum, which means they can continue to provide unlimited data (or eventually, faster speeds) far longer than their competition can.
Now, I'm a T-Mobile customer as well as a Sprint customer, and was about to drop my Sprint line for a prepaid line, but Sprint (and T-Mobile) are on the upswing and I very much like the progress they're making.
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Interesting theory, but Verizon and even ATT will complete their rollout before Sprint does. So by the time Sprint gets to enjoying LTE across the network, Verizon and ATT will be looking at deploying VoLTE.
They can have buttloads of spectrum, but they don't have the resources to compete with rollouts or to to advance in a timely manner. They will always be playing third base.
Heck, MetroPCS rolled out LTE before them (Verizon too, for that matter).
I managed to get a weak signal in parts of the KC metro, probably coming from the area around the Sprint Campus in Overland Park. I may drive closer later today and see what kind of speed I can get.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1653400
looks like alot of towers are becoming live pretty quickly. there is my thread from yesterday on it.
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Interesting theory, but Verizon and even ATT will complete their rollout before Sprint does. So by the time Sprint gets to enjoying LTE across the network, Verizon and ATT will be looking at deploying VoLTE.
They can have buttloads of spectrum, but they don't have the resources to compete with rollouts or to to advance in a timely manner. They will always be playing third base.
Heck, MetroPCS rolled out LTE before them (Verizon too, for that matter).
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Any word from those companies on when their current coverage will be covered in LTE?
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Okay so after months of complaining about service and one FCC complaint Sprint is letting me out of my contract. My service is beyond poor, and from all the research I have done it seems to affect everyone in my area, (Detroit) You would think Sprint would do a little better in a major city. I have until September 15th to find a new carrier.
Now, I love my S2, it is my first high end Android and I will only buy high end phones from now on... I am hooked.
Now being in Detroit my options are (4g is a must)
Verizon (LTE)
ATT (HSPA +)
T Mobile (HSPA+)
And to further complicate matters
MetroPCS (LTE)
Now,... not certain but I suspect that part of my reception issues with Sprint are caused by the less than stellar radio in the 4g touch. My first reaction was to buy a Verizon S3 but then I started having second thoughts because Motorola and HTC are known for better radios... damn.
I am currently running the hacked Verizon PRL allowing me to get Verizon 3G, it still pretty much sucks for me but still 10x faster than Sprint. I get from 100 to 500 Kbps. (But also get better voice and no dropped calls)
Now.. my whole point of wanting a fast internet connection is so I can browse the web and stream video at work.. and I work in a large industrial building made in 1940 with REAL bricks and stuff. None of that plastic modern crap,
From what I understand LTE signals have a hard time penetrating buildings... so it should have twice as much work to penetrate mine.
I have been playing with EVERYONE'S phone I know at work so I can test there internet speed... I think people at work think I lost my mind.
Unfortunately I work with cheapskates so the only 4G I was able to play with was MetroPCS which has a hit and miss 4G signal at work depending on the location in the building. I did get to play with one T Mobile HSPA+ phone and it got 2 MBPS down.. (I THINK that's enough to stream Netflix?)
Does HSPA+ penetrate buildings better than 4G LTE??
Now.. MetroPCS phones are generally pretty crappy and as of yet I don't think there is a way to flash over to them with working 4G, however...
there is a strong and somewhat substantiated rumor that the S3 is coming to MetroPCS before the end of the year. Okay.. this sounds almost perfect as I live and work in a very strong MetroPCS LTE area. Now I am back to my original concern that the S3 wont pull in the signal as well as other phones and is the only phone this carrier almost has that I would consider.
Now as far as the other carriers go I have the standard selection of phones... I just want a smoking hot phone with a large screen with a equally smoking hot radio. (is that so wrong?)
I know you guys cant give me a definitive answer about this because its all about my location and the location of the towers but I have researched phones and services until my eyes started bleeding and appreciated any educated guesses and advice. The only carrier I have any experience with is Sprint and MetroPCS and I have never had working 4G before. I want it so bad that I am willing to pay Verizon's prices if need be. On the other hand I have heard some people say that the Radio on the S3 is slightly improved... so if I could get an S3 on MetroPCS with unlimited 4G that would be awesome.
Buying a phone can be harder than buying a damn house.
I wouldn't get the gs3 on vzw its locked up tight so no rooting/modifications. I personally wouldn't go to vzw period, if i had to switch of go with TMo or AT&T in that order for TMo I'm not current on all the devices but I'd go with the gs3 or one s idk how HTC is with the bootloader tho, I know the one x and evolte are a pain in the ass to root. On att I'd go with the gs3 or gNote, although your other option would be to buy an unlocked device like the.gNex and use it on TMo or ATT prepaid which is what I would do personally. I'd get an unlocked gNex directly from Google and use it on TMos unlimited prepaid plan
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Gnex for me
I'm in metro Detroit too, and feel your pain. Data speeds have dropped to a slow drip over the last couple years (not that they were ever fast here). I'm leaning toward tmobile when I get bounced. Probably an S3.
It's not the radio's really you have to worry about when it comes to building penetrations. It's the frequency the network runs on. Verizon has great building penetration with 3g and LTE because Verizon owns most of the good low frequency. If you want good 4g and good building penetration Verizon is the way to go. But, you will pay good money for it. I don't know how much Metro has improved but, I have a friend who has Metro in the heart of a city that Metro is supposed to be good in. He always call me from his home phone because his service is weak.
As far as phones are concerned Verizon has the Gnex but I would try to get the unlocked Galaxy S3. I'm not sure if they are available to anyone but I read on Engadget a few weeks back that they were going to sell them for Verizon.
Just my 2cents. Good luck though.
i too probably will not be on sprint much longer due to signal, or rather lack there of... its my intention when I'm free to skip major carriers all together and use a month to month prepay provider that uses att's network... att and Verizon offer the best coverage in my area but I find their prices to be outlandish... by going with a prepay provider on att's network I'm getting the same good coverage for $45/mo, I can buy awesome phones for a very reasonable price directly from Google play, and as att is GSM I don't need to worry about my nexus experance being ruined like those on cdma networks do... lastly should I want something other than a nexus device I'll be able to buy used phones off of eBay/Craigslist without having to worry about asinine ESN's anymore, more than once sprint customer service has told me an ESN is clear, so I bought the phone, only later to find out that it was not when trying to activate it... not cool... actually I also just realized I could simply put aside the 60-70 I'll be saving a month on the bill and just buy the newest cutting edge device at full retail every 9 months with my savings... upgrade every two years?hah...
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I only get average of 300Kb/s, where do you find the Verizon PRL and tutorial?
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I would just stick with sprint for may be 2-3 more months. I am sure Detroit will get the network upgrades sooner than later. You can also check scheduled upgrades on network.sprint.com website. But then again I understand how much it would suck for you with bad connection 24x7.
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Rich3077, I am in the same situation as you and will be switching to Verizon as soon as the next round of phones are released (iPhone 5, next Nexus, etc.). The current lineup of phones only has the S3 that's new, pretty much everything else is a little old and lacking (GNex's camera, no SD card, and no GSM). With my experience with the S2 and Samsung's/Sprint's radio quality, and generally delayed OS upgrades I am really hoping that I don't have to buy another Samsung-branded phone again, and that the next Nexus is better than the current and previous Samsung versions.
Plus, it's starting to sound like we might actually start to see quad core phones with LTE. If you can, I would suggest waiting two to three months before you pull the trigger.
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I only get average of 300Kb/s, where do you find the Verizon PRL and tutorial?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1267893
This is the thread I got the Verizon PRL's from, as well as instructions. You may have to try a few of them before you find one that works for you.
Thanks everyone for your reply's.. choices suck right now because as soon as I find a phone that has acceptable hardware I find out that it has a non replaceable battery or no SD card slot. What the hell are the manufactures thinking?? Its gonna cost me a bundle because I have 3 phones on my plan but even if I gotta pay full retail for phones I will if I can just get good service as well as a hot phone.
Rich3077 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1267893
This is the thread I got the Verizon PRL's from, as well as instructions. You may have to try a few of them before you find one that works for you.
Thanks everyone for your reply's.. choices suck right now because as soon as I find a phone that has acceptable hardware I find out that it has a non replaceable battery or no SD card slot. What the hell are the manufactures thinking?? Its gonna cost me a bundle because I have 3 phones on my plan but even if I gotta pay full retail for phones I will if I can just get good service as well as a hot phone.
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Look for a good unlocked GSM phone and use something like TMos prepaid plan, their unlimited is throttled after 5gb but u still get around 2-3mbps down on 4g
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Rich3077 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1267893
This is the thread I got the Verizon PRL's from, as well as instructions. You may have to try a few of them before you find one that works for you.
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I've been trying to a couple different.. I tried 00001, 00002 and 01337 and none of them gave me more than 300kb/s burst and 60kb/s normal. But I guess ill try them all.
hrffd said:
I've been trying to a couple different.. I tried 00001, 00002 and 01337 and none of them gave me more than 300kb/s burst and 60kb/s normal. But I guess ill try them all.
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Try 11115
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If I were not on contract, the $30 T-Mobile/Walmart plan with a $350 Galaxy Nexus from Google Play would be awfully tempting. Only catch is you only get 100 minutes. Given the fact that I average about 50 minutes a month anyway, I don't consider this a problem.
You would have to give up your LTE dreams. HSPA+ ain't so bad, is it?
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Try 11115
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Damn, 11119 is getting 1mb-2mb/s. Not sure if I want to try the others or not now lol
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hrffd said:
Damn, 11119 is getting 1mb-2mb/s. Not sure if I want to try the others or not now lol
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The 1111x series are the best I always had good results with 11115 on my evo but now I don't need to do the prl hack cuz my sprint 3g is 1+mbps on peak and 2+mbps off peak
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I agree with evils first suggestion. Get the unlocked galaxy nexus and use it on att or tmobile.
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bparkerson04 said:
I agree with evils first suggestion. Get the unlocked galaxy nexus and use it on att or tmobile.
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Yeah if I had to switch from sprint I'd eat the cost of an unlocked device up front to go prepaid cuz all the other carriers are so damn expensive on contract, hell you can use straight talk prepaid or any GSM prepaid plan with an unlocked device and getting the unlocked gnex from Google guarantees you speedy updates that work right
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FYI, it doesn't look like you are looking at Verizon S3, but in case if that thought crossed your mind, be aware that the S3 on Verizon has a locked bootloader. Given that you are on xda I am assuming that you probably care about this.
http://www.androidauthority.com/ver...3-locked-bootloader-developer-edition-100550/