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[Q] at&t or verizon on san francisco

Hi, i've just moved to san francisco recently and i wanna get a new phone with contract. I know nexus is the best right now but which model should i choose? And i wont be buying an unlocked gsm gnex.
Will thank every post with useful opinions!
Thanks

I believe it was Tech TV, but when the iPhone 4 first came out for Verizon, they did a side-by-side comparison of the AT&T model & the Verizon model in San Francisco. They went to various locations around San Francisco testing signal strength, web page load times, uploads/downloads, etc and I recall that all but 1 of the tests came out as Verizon being the winner.
As far as the Galaxy Nexus goes, obviously, you can acquire it for either service. The plus with Verizon is you get 32GB rather then 16GB, although the battery drain is faster(with LTE on) and I believe Verizon's plans are still the most expensive also. Personally, I'm only on Verizon because I've got the no-longer-offered 'unlimited data' otherwise I'd say bye and go to AT&T or T-Mobile. I kinda miss having a GSM phone due to the ease in phone swapping + worldwide functionality(switching to other providers).

voxigenboy said:
I believe it was Tech TV, but when the iPhone 4 first came out for Verizon, they did a side-by-side comparison of the AT&T model & the Verizon model in San Francisco. They went to various locations around San Francisco testing signal strength, web page load times, uploads/downloads, etc and I recall that all but 1 of the tests came out as Verizon being the winner.
As far as the Galaxy Nexus goes, obviously, you can acquire it for either service. The plus with Verizon is you get 32GB rather then 16GB, although the battery drain is faster(with LTE on) and I believe Verizon's plans are still the most expensive also. Personally, I'm only on Verizon because I've got the no-longer-offered 'unlimited data' otherwise I'd say bye and go to AT&T or T-Mobile. I kinda miss having a GSM phone due to the ease in phone swapping + worldwide functionality(switching to other providers).
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So verizon lte is faster? And if i go to another country with a verizon locked gnex i cant use my gnex? That sucks. Now im more confused.

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I have vzw and it works heat for me. art just hot a signal boots in ad a few months ago but VZW is still faster
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craze96 said:
Hi, i've just moved to san francisco recently and i wanna get a new phone with contract. I know nexus is the best right now but which model should i choose? And i wont be buying an unlocked gsm gnex.
Thanks
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Confused ... You are saying you won't be buying an unlocked gsm nexus and asking whether att or Verizon? Currently the nexus is available only on Verizon. If you want att, you have to buy the unlocked gsm gnex and you have no other option.
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kirdroid said:
Confused ... You are saying you won't be buying an unlocked gsm nexus and asking whether att or Verizon? Currently the nexus is available only on Verizon. If you want att, you have to buy the unlocked gsm gnex and you have no other option.
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Ill wait till it comes to atnt... Anyone can answer my question above?

Oh 1 more thing i love developing my phone (rooting, flashing n etc,) so which one should be best? I really in need a response. Ill thank every useful posts

National coverage and network: Verizon is the best. I'm happy with AT&T since it has decent coverage in major metros and I can tolerate a dropped call here and there. So if your job depend on phone calls and need network everywhere you go, Verizon is better.
International usage: ATT since you can easily swap sim cards. Some Verizon phones are world phones but I believe nexus is not.
Data speeds: nexus is lte on Verizon so it has faster data speeds compared to gsm model. Generally Verizon lte has much better coverage than att. Att just got started on lte. But att hspa speeds are more than enough. I easily get anywhere between 3 - 5 Mbps average speeds on att which is more than enough for me.
Phone choices: I love the fact that I can import unlocked phones and just pop a sim to get it working on att. But if you only buy contract phones then both network has good phone options.
Also on modding with nexus no issues, otherwise both network force manufacturers to lock bootloader. But nowadays it has gotten better with manufacturers providing option to unlock bootloaders after the device is released in a few weeks.
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kirdroid said:
National coverage and network: Verizon is the best. I'm happy with AT&T since it has decent coverage in major metros and I can tolerate a dropped call here and there. So if your job depend on phone calls and need network everywhere you go, Verizon is better.
International usage: ATT since you can easily swap sim cards. Some Verizon phones are world phones but I believe nexus is not.
Data speeds: nexus is lte on Verizon so it has faster data speeds compared to gsm model. Generally Verizon lte has much better coverage than att. Att just got started on lte. But att hspa speeds are more than enough. I easily get anywhere between 3 - 5 Mbps average speeds on att which is more than enough for me.
Phone choices: I love the fact that I can import unlocked phones and just pop a sim to get it working on att. But if you only buy contract phones then both network has good phone options.
Also on modding with nexus no issues, otherwise both network force manufacturers to lock bootloader. But nowadays it has gotten better with manufacturers providing option to unlock bootloaders after the device is released in a few weeks.
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Thanks for the lengthy response i wanna get the at&t coz its cheaper. Also i dont often call or need an internet that fast that but i think i need to wait 2 more months to have it with contract. About the modding, is one faster than the other?

I am thinking of getting the verizon right now. Anymore inputs?

verizon has double data right now so I would jump on it quick
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An entire forum of developers and not one comment about ATT in SF? Amazing!!
TO the OP, other than the above comment regarding National Coverage (verizon is better), which is true, let me speak specifically to SF:
DO NOT get ATT! The network is embarrassing bad in SF, and while I have been outside of SF for about a year now, I am sure others can speak to this. TO be fair, when I left they were investing a few million to patch it up but I am not sure where that was left. I had to move to Verizon for this simple reason alone. There was a reason it was so bad. All the Iphone users during commute hours and the network was not up to par. Lots of anger....
Verizon was great once i switched.

mattwill1 said:
An entire forum of developers and not one comment about ATT in SF? Amazing!!
TO the OP, other than the above comment regarding National Coverage (verizon is better), which is true, let me speak specifically to SF:
DO NOT get ATT! The network is embarrassing bad in SF, and while I have been outside of SF for about a year now, I am sure others can speak to this. TO be fair, when I left they were investing a few million to patch it up but I am not sure where that was left. I had to move to Verizon for this simple reason alone. There was a reason it was so bad. All the Iphone users during commute hours and the network was not up to par. Lots of anger....
Verizon was great once i switched.
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Im officially getting a verizon nexus when they are open. There is only 1 thing that im concered about. I am here for college and ill return back to my country for a couple of months on summer break. But its ok i think... Ill use my dhd in there thx for the responses guys!

Kryptonian_Knight said:
verizon has double data right now so I would jump on it quick
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I know about that offer. Thanks for answering though

mattwill1 said:
An entire forum of developers and not one comment about ATT in SF? Amazing!!
TO the OP, other than the above comment regarding National Coverage (verizon is better), which is true, let me speak specifically to SF:
DO NOT get ATT! The network is embarrassing bad in SF, and while I have been outside of SF for about a year now, I am sure others can speak to this. TO be fair, when I left they were investing a few million to patch it up but I am not sure where that was left. I had to move to Verizon for this simple reason alone. There was a reason it was so bad. All the Iphone users during commute hours and the network was not up to par. Lots of anger....
Verizon was great once i switched.
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I was surprised as well and yes you are right AT&T service is terrible in San Francisco.
I had AT&T since the first iPhone and just recently switched. AT&T was great at home and where I work but was simply infuriating when I would be in the city.
There are still some low speed areas on Verizon in SF but I have had much better luck.

Cnet covered this and did a video on it
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19512_7-20030274-233.html
Verizon is better

Buyer's remorse?

so i bought the verizon galaxy nexus, and i'm having slight buyer's remorse =/. the LTE network is definitely fast, and ICS is good software but i feel like the GN just had shoddy radios. even with the 4.0.4 update and hybrid radios found on XDA i can't seem to get consistent signal with it.
at most i get 2 bars of 3G or 4G, the hand off between them is **** too. when LTE drops it takes at least a good 10-15 seconds before i either find 3G again or get some network connectivity back. the unfortunate reality is that when LTE terminates the entire network operation can go down temporarily(on the device). i'm in a pretty good metropolitan area for verizon, but sadly I've had better reception on many of T-Mobiles phones on their 3G and HSPA+.
the buyer's remorse is strong with this one =/. i tried the HTC Rezound but the current ICS builds are not that great. and i don't want to be stuck /w an outdated device for too long.
what do you guys think?

The only remorse I had was not pre-ordering mine so it'd arrive sooner.
I haven't had any problems with my radio at all. Best reception I've had in a while.

Could be your area or Verizon's network. It has been on the fritz since it rolled out.
Sent from my Nexus in Texas.

bongd said:
The only remorse I had was not pre-ordering mine so it'd arrive sooner.
I haven't had any problems with my radio at all. Best reception I've had in a while.
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Assuming you have the GSM version though if you're actually on Rogers. Most complaints about signal are coming from VZW people.

My only remorse was waiting until the conference ended to pre order, would have liked it on the 17th not 19th
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Not having an LTE phone doesn't really qualify me to give advice, but I can only assume other LTE phones you have had have worked just fine?

well i haven't really had verizon ever, the "4G" hspa+ phones from tmobile work better than the VZW nexus i have here now...like i said, I ordered the Rezound and tried it, the LTE and overall reception is just plain out far better but at this point it is kind of a sore subject for me. i'm kind of locked to ICS and 720p, but the ICS leaks for the rezound are subpar and just sluggish.. the only reason i went /w VZW was because of the nexus, but i think it would just be more economic and honestly less of a hassle to just go back to t-mobile because of unlocked GSM phones. the CDMA out where i live just proves to be subpar at every corner. i don't really get how VZW and Sprint can stay in business out here(i'm from southeast houston).

Dajinn said:
well i haven't really had verizon ever, the "4G" hspa+ phones from tmobile work better than the VZW nexus i have here now...like i said, I ordered the Rezound and tried it, the LTE and overall reception is just plain out far better but at this point it is kind of a sore subject for me. i'm kind of locked to ICS and 720p, but the ICS leaks for the rezound are subpar and just sluggish.. the only reason i went /w VZW was because of the nexus, but i think it would just be more economic and honestly less of a hassle to just go back to t-mobile because of unlocked GSM phones. the CDMA out where i live just proves to be subpar at every corner. i don't really get how VZW and Sprint can stay in business out here(i'm from southeast houston).
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Return it and get away from VZW then. Go back to T-Mo and get a HSPA+ Nexus. You'll be better off for it.

No remorse
Bought the Nexus and am very happy since I purchased the extended battery from Samsung. My Galaxy Nexus last around 12 hours, just about 1 day with normal to heavy useage of email and net surfing.
Very happy user!

martonikaj said:
Return it and get away from VZW then. Go back to T-Mo and get a HSPA+ Nexus. You'll be better off for it.
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This is EXACTLY what I am doing right now. I sold my VZW Nexus tonight, and am looking to buy a GSM Nexus sometime tomorrow or Monday in order to use ATT or (less likely) TMO. I had a few radio issues like you mention, but they weren't enough to bother me too much. The simple truth is I'm freaking sick of VZW and their friggin' methods of doing things, mostly revolving around the way they try to turn their customers into ATMs for their own coffers. I used to use them because they had the best network/tech, but in the past year or so it has become more and more evident they are having some serious problems with their network. I could care less WHY it is happening and more THAT it is happening.
It's pushed me over the edge to wave goodbye and leave the "service" provider. At least ATT and TMO don't make a habit of treating their customers like $#it and they don't make a practice of nickle and diming them to death. It is unlikely that I will ever return to VZW, even if they regain the status of "best network" and "best hardware". If necessary I would settle for slightly less powerful hardware and slightly less network coverage/performance in order to vote with my $ and my conscience against the corporation itself. Screw Verizon.

eakeller said:
This is EXACTLY what I am doing right now. I sold my VZW Nexus tonight, and am looking to buy a GSM Nexus sometime tomorrow or Monday in order to use ATT or (less likely) TMO. I had a few radio issues like you mention, but they weren't enough to bother me too much. The simple truth is I'm freaking sick of VZW and their friggin' methods of doing things, mostly revolving around the way they try to turn their customers into ATMs for their own coffers. I used to use them because they had the best network/tech, but in the past year or so it has become more and more evident they are having some serious problems with their network. I could care less WHY it is happening and more THAT it is happening.
It's pushed me over the edge to wave goodbye and leave the "service" provider. At least ATT and TMO don't make a habit of treating their customers like $#it and they don't make a practice of nickle and diming them to death. It is unlikely that I will ever return to VZW, even if they regain the status of "best network" and "best hardware". If necessary I would settle for slightly less powerful hardware and slightly less network coverage/performance in order to vote with my $ and my conscience against the corporation itself. Screw Verizon.
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Right on. Not to sound like a broken record, but you look like another candidate for the Prepaid Thread. Take a look in there before you sign up for service. Take control and own your service.

How do you have 2-3 bars of 3g/4g? I didn't think it showed data connectivity only phone service and wifi strength?
Am I missing something?
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I'm in the exact same boat as the OP. Got my VZW Galaxy Nexus four days ago. Switched from TMO after 11 years specifically for this phone since they didn't announce availability on TMO at MWC. Had a Nexus One off contract, and was waiting very patiently for the Galaxy Nexus, but with VZW's double-data promotion, and a nice 20% corporate discount, I decided to make the switch.
Despite VZW's JD Power awards for network quality, I'm getting horrible reception on this phone compared to what I would get with TMO. 3G data speeds are a 10-20% of what I'd get through TMO as well, and the Nexus One wasn't even a '4G' phone! LTE can be decent... get about 5-8mbps where I live, but I work in downtown Phoenix and get about 1-2mbps, on LTE! That's insane. I'd pull 2-4mbps on my Nexus One anywhere around the Phoenix Metro area. The day after I activated the phone the connection dropped completely, at random, for more than 30 minutes each time. Thankfully I've yet to see that again. I'll be watching real close for the next week to decide whether to keep it or not... Kind of sad I missed out on Daily Steals $530 deal for the GSM version.
Edit: Forgot to add that, aside from the network issues, the phone itself is absolutely amazing...

eakeller said:
This is EXACTLY what I am doing right now. I sold my VZW Nexus tonight, and am looking to buy a GSM Nexus sometime tomorrow or Monday in order to use ATT or (less likely) TMO. I had a few radio issues like you mention, but they weren't enough to bother me too much. The simple truth is I'm freaking sick of VZW and their friggin' methods of doing things, mostly revolving around the way they try to turn their customers into ATMs for their own coffers. I used to use them because they had the best network/tech, but in the past year or so it has become more and more evident they are having some serious problems with their network. I could care less WHY it is happening and more THAT it is happening.
It's pushed me over the edge to wave goodbye and leave the "service" provider. At least ATT and TMO don't make a habit of treating their customers like $#it and they don't make a practice of nickle and diming them to death. It is unlikely that I will ever return to VZW, even if they regain the status of "best network" and "best hardware". If necessary I would settle for slightly less powerful hardware and slightly less network coverage/performance in order to vote with my $ and my conscience against the corporation itself. Screw Verizon.
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I hate to call someone out around here. I love these forums and the people who participate. I was with this poster up until the " At least ATT and TMO don't make a habit of treating their customers like $#it and they don't make a practice of nickle and diming them to death." Really man? Att? Have you been paying attention? I just think its funny. Your confused bud and looks like you need to do some real research before making your decision..

IFLATLINEI said:
I hate to call someone out around here. I love these forums and the people who participate. I was with this poster up until the " At least ATT and TMO don't make a habit of treating their customers like $#it and they don't make a practice of nickle and diming them to death." Really man? Att? Have you been paying attention? I just think its funny. Your confused bud and looks like you need to do some real research before making your decision..
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all of them nickle and dime tmo chargers 5 bucks for exchanging defect phones i had verizon for 2 years and glad when contract was up their customer service was horrid and lte kept crashing verizon sucks worst of all in my opinion
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Had my N since launch day in Dec by VZN. Had many dropped calls, poor 3G speeds, random reboots, battery pull req'd, sluggish behaviour & poor photo quality. Terribly aggravated with VZN handling of the launch & subsequent o/s updates....lack thereof.
Last week rooted & applied 4.0.4 with radio updates. & am so far happier. Here in Maine we don't have LTE & probably won't this year.
Regardless, would not even consider switch back to lying cheating good for little ATT. Remember, none of the carriers give a damn about us except for our paying our bills on time & betting good little sheep.
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I'm not discounting anyone's experience but I left tmo after 6+ years to VZW just for the nexus. I guess people expect some miracle coverage but its just as spotty as T-Mobile network. My only complaint really with VZW is there pricing however I totally knew what I was getting into before buying the nexus. T-Mobile hardly treats there customers like royalty anymore their customer service went from top notch to WTF and was my main reason for leaving. VZW customer service is how I remember T-Mobile back in the day. I thought I would regret leaving but I must say the gnex was worth it. The few gripes I had with the phone disappeared once I updated to 4.0.4. I definitely don't suggest
Staying with services your not happy with VZW LTE isn't for everyone.

I live in Chicago and coming from a bionic I totally know what you mean. I had great 4g coverage on my bionic and I'm super disappointed to see this phone have such terrible coverage. But when I went to north river side mall which is right outside the city I had full bars of 4G.
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Dajinn said:
so i bought the verizon galaxy nexus, and i'm having slight buyer's remorse =/. the LTE network is definitely fast, and ICS is good software but i feel like the GN just had shoddy radios. even with the 4.0.4 update and hybrid radios found on XDA i can't seem to get consistent signal with it.
at most i get 2 bars of 3G or 4G, the hand off between them is **** too. when LTE drops it takes at least a good 10-15 seconds before i either find 3G again or get some network connectivity back. the unfortunate reality is that when LTE terminates the entire network operation can go down temporarily(on the device). i'm in a pretty good metropolitan area for verizon, but sadly I've had better reception on many of T-Mobiles phones on their 3G and HSPA+.
the buyer's remorse is strong with this one =/. i tried the HTC Rezound but the current ICS builds are not that great. and i don't want to be stuck /w an outdated device for too long.
what do you guys think?
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Return it and get the rezound. The radio is incredible.. and ics is just as good on it as the gnex.
On my gnex I coulndt get signal at my house. With the rezound it get 3 to 4 bars.
Compared to the gnex.. it feels much higher quality. It's fast , sexy screen, and ice goodness.. best choice I ever made
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I dunno man, I live in a suburb of Atlanta, and with T-Mobile I was getting anywhere from 400 kbps to 1.2 mbps tops, dropping calls, phone wouldn't even ring sometimes and I wouldn't get the voicemail indication until 8 hours after the fact.
Now I'm getting about 25-30 Mbps over LTE with no voice issues whatsoever.

How likely do you think an ATT Nexus is?

which carrier do you think is better......

At&t is the least "Android friendly" carrier so I would kind of be surprised. I know in the 3+ years I had them I hated every minute of it. I am soo happy with VZW and will never go back. I also know that this is only my experience and reception differs through out the country, but in Northern AL VZW is the only carrier worth having if you actually want a working device - I have full coverage and LTE almost everywhere I go. With At&t I had a bar and edge. Doesnt At&t have LTE in like 12 major cities only? What is the point?
EDIT: Yes VZW is more expensive but its worth it to me to actually be able to use my phone.

I didn't think att was so anti android. They had the atrix. A killer device and came out eons before (10 months?) the bionic, the all but brother to the atrix, and they have their own S2 and S2 lte. Even a nexus s. I'm not butting heads intentionally. But I also know in north jersey (15 miles from Verizon HQ) my hspa+ smokes Verizon 3g usually 3megs to .75. And call wise no body in my area has att problems. BUT I do hear about them from other locations. But I digress. I don't see why att is android unfriendly and why we should give up on lte from them just because its new. They have 1/6th the coverage Verizon has which is good for such a small time its been out. Also the lte switching on att kills lte when not in use and vice versa. Tremendous better savings vs big red. Just my thoughts
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I didn't think att was so anti android. They had the atrix. A killer device and came out eons before (10 months?) the bionic, the all but brother to the atrix, and they have their own S2 and S2 lte. Even a nexus s. I'm not butting heads intentionally. But I also know in north jersey (15 miles from Verizon HQ) my hspa+ smokes Verizon 3g usually 3megs to .75. And call wise no body in my area has att problems. BUT I do hear about them from other locations. But I digress. I don't see why att is android unfriendly and why we should give up on lte from them just because its new. They have 1/6th the coverage Verizon has which is good for such a small time its been out. Also the lte switching on att kills lte when not in use and vice versa. Tremendous better savings vs big red. Just my thoughts
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For the longest time, they locked down sideloading of apps. Thats pretty damn Android unfriendly.

I was under the impression that Verizon did too. Am I wrong?
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Nah, Verizon never did that. They like to bloat things up, but they do not lockdown sideloading or anything like that. Nor do they use CIQ like Sprint does on some of their devices.

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For the longest time, they locked down sideloading of apps. Thats pretty damn Android unfriendly.
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^^THIS^^
AND THEN.. You have AT&T disabling HSPA on their Android phones but leaving it enabled on the iDevices, all the time marketing their Androids as HSPA CAPABLE. They are unethical liars.
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I was under the impression that Verizon did too. Am I wrong?
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VZW never prevented sideloading.

well i appreciate the clarity, i guess as having a decent selection of androids to me made me feel that way,
ANYWAYS do we have any input on the topic? i feel like some people dont care, but we are talking about an awesome phone being offered to people at a lower cost, sim card use in america with a faster radio and possibly more storage, and a 1 year warranty in america, im not sure if att would even have the ability to hamper the nexus experience with this so does anyone care or do we just want to hate ATT?

T-Mobile.. cheaper, allows tethering/hotspots, no android restrictions... dont know why people put up with att and verizon

norazi said:
T-Mobile.. cheaper, allows tethering/hotspots, no android restrictions... dont know why people put up with att and verizon
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I pay the premium to actually have reception, Tmo & Att have none in my area.. VZW has reception everywhere, and LTE everywhere too (in my area). VZW doesnt have "Android restrictions", and Ive never paid for tethering on any carrier nor will I - I get that for free.

norazi said:
T-Mobile.. cheaper, allows tethering/hotspots, no android restrictions... dont know why people put up with att and verizon
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Because T-mobile's service is garbage in a lot of places? Because they have unlimited data on Verizon? Because Verizon actually carries the Galaxy Nexus and there is no trouble getting warranty support?
There is actually a no service area for T-mobile within city limits here.

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Okay everyone, I feel like this a time for those of us that have to decide to renew our contract with Sprint...to make a real informed decision. I'm going to try and keep this short.
Read this first- here
I've been with every carrier EXCEPT Verizon and twice with Sprint. I always knew that Sprint's data network wasn't that great, but I found it usable (barely and often times frustrating). With my contract date ending on 5/3, I started looking at other carriers. I have friends on Verizon, TMo, and ATT. In a very non-scientific way, I decided to test the 3G & 4G speeds on those networks...later comparing them to Sprint. I always found my Sprint speeds to be the slowest...on both. Let me mention that I live in Kansas City...which is in Sprint's backyard...didn't even matter.
With the direction mobile technology is going...LTE is definitely here to stay. However, the battery powering the device is not improving (except for the Razr Maxx). And we all know that 4G...albeit LTE or WiMax, sucks the life out of the standard mAh battery in the device. Which is why, I use 3G most of the time...again, which is not that good on Sprint's network.
Even with the sexy Evo 4G LTE dropping soon, I am starting to reconsider my tenure with Sprint. Even with a good LTE network, 3G still plays a role...at least for me. Paired with my tests and the above article, it proves that Sprint needs to get their sh*t together. A great device means nothing on a sub par network.
I guess I'm angry right now and I don't plan to sit on the curb either. I really want to give Sprint a chance...have been for nearly 2 years. But, I don't want to be optimistic, only to be let down 2 more years later. So my question to my comrades is simple. Are you all going to stay with Sprint or look elsewhere?
Don't worry, I'm a big boy and I can take straight up responses. Sorry for the dissertation.
Regards,
sag
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You go to another carrier and get less data for more money, better speeds less quality. Sprints LTE roll out is bringing network vision with it which is enhanced 1x and 3g networks as well as LTE everywhere there is now 3g coverage within 2 years. I'll be sticking with sprint as I have been with every carrier and sprint has the best customer service and actually works with their customers. Vzw doesn't give a rats ass how badly they screw you and will even directly lie to your face to get you to change your plan, device, contract etc. ATT lte is spotty at best TMO is just a joke in alot of areas, and sprints network vision will far surpass all the other carriers by the end of 2014.
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I'm sticking with Sprint. The price plans for Verizon are so much more expensive than what I'm currently paying, and I'm not sure the benefits warrant the cost. Also, I'm optimistic that Sprint is at least trying to get better. Their venture into WiMAX set them back, but they've been moving to correct that. Lastly, I'll be spending the next four years in college where I'll have WiFi available nearly constantly.

See there are so many things I am weighing right now...in no particular order
Devices offered...to include future device offerings
Data Speeds
Customer service
Coverage
Rate Plans
Tethering (the XDA way ;-))
Time to upgrade
I have been following the development of Sprint's network and it really DOES look promising. However, I do not want to wait for nothing. I'm trying not to let impulse or frustration get the best of me right now...really difficult. I love my Evo and I am hoping the love will continue with the Evo LTE. I just want to love the network as well.
Thanks for responding and I hope this continues to create dialog.

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I'm sticking with Sprint. The price plans for Verizon are so much more expensive than what I'm currently paying, and I'm not sure the benefits warrant the cost. Also, I'm optimistic that Sprint is at least trying to get better. Their venture into WiMAX set them back, but they've been moving to correct that. Lastly, I'll be spending the next four years in college where I'll have WiFi available nearly constantly.
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By the time network vision is fully deployed sprint is targeted to have the best network in the country. HD voice, consistent 1.8-3mb 3g speeds and LTE with coverage everywhere they currently have 3g with the same signal quality and building penetration as the current 3g network means they will have LTE in a bigger market than any other carrier while having the same or better 3g as well and far superior voice quality, with the customer service they currently have sprint will be poised to be the top dog once again.
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here are a few things floating in my mind on why to switching carriers ( other than having NO COVERAGE aka im runnin in airplane mode just to save battery cuz there is no point on leaving radio on unless i like looking at the x over my signal bars lol)
-boy do i miss sim cards it was WAYYY easier to switch phones imo (yea yea you can even switch sprint phones by talking to them online but still swap a sim and wait sounds like fun)
-i mean the faster speeds would be nice and the limits on amount of data might be hassle but... i really dont find myself downloading roms over the 3g/4g radio (well ok maybe 4g but i dont have that in my particular area either but i get that could be nice) and tethering could be an issue (and i mean by other means not the manufacturers app) since there are caps butttt yeah there is wifi so many places and at the rates the size of phones are coming who needs to tether a lappy lol
-i guess im so over customer service where unless it is really really really really really need im just gonna try to fix it myself just cuz.
andddd to be honest i know this sounds like a stupid thing or maybe just dumb but att has this 50 unlimited plan for the go phone (annnd a sim only costs like 4 bucks or something like that which means no need to hack away with cdma workshop to get my phone on boost or something). downside is yesss you have to buy a phone off plan and yes you still will get throttled (right ? wasnt that what they are doin to unlimited plans?) but id rather shell out for a phone i want that im not stuck with due to contract annnd have my 50 dollar plan throttled than a $100+ plan throttled lol anyways those are some of my thoughts just thought i'd share

Sprint Galaxy Nexus .vs. Sprint Galaxy S III

I've recently moved from a sprint NS4G to a Sprint Gnex (toroplus).
The stock 4.1.1 is awesome, and the performance is great. Battery life and heat are a bit of a issue, but not a deal killer at all.
LTE Coverage ??
My main issue is LTE coverage, or the lack thereof. I have had Sprint be very responsive to my concerns in opening a network ticket, and walking through a network reset [ i.e. SCRTN ( Enter *#*#72786#*#* + MSL ). ] and other steps.
In looking at other threads, posts and dedicated Sprint 4g forums, I'm getting the sense that the toroplus has a less than steller network performance record.
My daughter's unlocked GSM is on a T-Mobile $30/ plan, and it kills mine in all areas around town, so I'm really focusing this thought on the Sprint toroplus.
So, give me feedback on this thought -> Should I switch it for a Sprint Galaxy S 3?
I can not bear to think of not having a stock JB to work off of, but without a steady and strong data connection, so much of the superior software experience is lost to me anyway. I have network issues impacting the performance of so much of the software, from Google talk app to google now.
I hate the GSIII's skin and home button, but if it would give me a significantly better network/data experience, I'm tempted to make the switch.
What do you think?
p.s. Although I am obviously asking a question, I intentionally posted this is 'general' as the overall nature is more of a discussion/opinion. If this is incorrect, PM me and I'll move it or delete it.

I'm assuming your daughter has the GSM version of the Galaxy Nexus? Your question is more about Cell Providers than about phones since you're basing your issues on network performance.

Depends
Gs3 is newer blah blah and has 2gb ram. Nexus is a nexus you will get the latest android sooner than anyone else
Other than that gs3 wins
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donsh00tmesanta said:
Depends
Gs3 is newer blah blah and has 2gb ram. Nexus is a nexus you will get the latest android sooner than anyone else
Other than that gs3 wins
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Agreed but he's basing his theory on the fact that his daughter's phone is faster (network wise) but it's a different network all together. I don't see how a different phone would help if it's a network issue.

Better phone won't make data faster
Get gs3 for T-Mobile in that case
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Why compare when you can buy both..common sense when in doubt buy those two. That would solve ur curiosity:sly:
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Yeah, just buy both, duh. Lol. If only.
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It seems as though, due to both phones being made by Samsung, that the radios in each would at least be comparable, resulting in similar network connectivity and quality. The good thing is that Sprint has the 2 week return period so you can always get the S3 and try it and take it back if the network quality is the same as what you are experiencing with the gnex but you might have to eat the $36 restocking fee... Or complain enough they waive it, haha.
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The S3 is a Samsung so it has its reputable crappy radio signal. I dont think getting the S3 will change things period. Sprint's network is well.. Sprint's network. It has highs and lows you just happen to be in a Low. I mean at my house i get 2 bars of 3G and its like .50 - .75 mbps but going up the street it'll hit full bars with 1.2 - 1.7 mbps its really iffy and all depends on location. Your best bet would be to drop Sprint sell the Gnex and get a GSM gnex and put that sucker on Prepaid T-Mobile or any other GSM carrier.

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The S3 is a Samsung so it has its reputable crappy radio signal. I dont think getting the S3 will change things period. Sprint's network is well.. Sprint's network. It has highs and lows you just happen to be in a Low. I mean at my house i get 2 bars of 3G and its like .50 - .75 mbps but going up the street it'll hit full bars with 1.2 - 1.7 mbps its really iffy and all depends on location. Your best bet would be to drop Sprint sell the Gnex and get a GSM gnex and put that sucker on Prepaid T-Mobile or any other GSM carrier.
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I think you are right, my issue is a get 'the job' to pay for Sprint, so ..... I guess I'm getting what I pay for!
I'm wondering if anyone out there has used on Sprint both a Gnex and G3 at similar locations to prove/disprove if the radios are the same. Seems likely they'd be similar, I had read some reports that at least on Sprint the G3's radio was performing better on LTE.
Thanks.

schreibman said:
I think you are right, my issue is a get 'the job' to pay for Sprint, so ..... I guess I'm getting what I pay for!
I'm wondering if anyone out there has used on Sprint both a Gnex and G3 at similar locations to prove/disprove if the radios are the same. Seems likely they'd be similar, I had read some reports that at least on Sprint the G3's radio was performing better on LTE.
Thanks.
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I'm not even in the US but my LTE experiences prove otherwise. Had a GS2 Skyrocket and while LTE speeds are blazing it has a very weak signal compared to 3g/4g. In full 3g/4g areas it would always have 2 bars less. Indoors it was even worse sometimes gone.(would swap back to 4g) Now not all networks are the same but thought I'd share. As previously mentioned it seems Sprint in your area is the problem not your phone

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I'm not even in the US but my LTE experiences prove otherwise. Had a GS2 Skyrocket and while LTE speeds are blazing it has a very weak signal compared to 3g/4g. In full 3g/4g areas it would always have 2 bars less. Indoors it was even worse sometimes gone.(would swap back to 4g) Now not all networks are the same but thought I'd share. As previously mentioned it seems Sprint in your area is the problem not your phone
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There may be small differences but I would be shocked to learn that the gs3 has some kind of radical advantage over the gnex. The problem is sprint. Luckily they are rolling out lte pretty quickly. By Christmas we should see a decent footprint.
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