I've been tethering laptop to my Galaxy Nexus for a while now but recently the download rate has dropped from 12,000 kbps to 200kbps. Oddly enough my upload rate is 10,000kbps. These speeds are while tethered. My data rate on the phone is 21,000kbps down and 19,000kbps. I haven't made any changes to the software on the phone prior to this happening and I've tried tethering different devices.
Any clue what is happening here?
synaesthesics said:
I've been tethering laptop to my Galaxy Nexus for a while now but recently the download rate has dropped from 12,000 kbps to 200kbps. Oddly enough my upload rate is 10,000kbps. These speeds are while tethered. My data rate on the phone is 21,000kbps down and 19,000kbps. I haven't made any changes to the software on the phone prior to this happening and I've tried tethering different devices.
Any clue what is happening here?
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Is it happening after you have been tethering for a while, say an hour or so. Cause I have had the same issues as well after tethering my laptop for more than an hour. My fear is from what i've heard is starting to track down high data usage for us who have unlimited data plans and not paying the extra for tethering and somehow slowing the connection from 4g to 3g. Although mine gets so slow I cant load up a web page it takes so long.
It only happens when I'm tethering. My phone still has 4g data rates if I'm streaming a video or downloading something.
I've thought that Verizon might be throttling me given that my upload rate is still high, but do they have the ability to determine whether or not traffic is from the phone or from a tethered device?
synaesthesics said:
It only happens when I'm tethering. My phone still has 4g data rates if I'm streaming a video or downloading something.
I've thought that Verizon might be throttling me given that my upload rate is still high, but do they have the ability to determine whether or not traffic is from the phone or from a tethered device?
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Im certainly no expert but I do know that AT&T has implemented a plan to throttle the unlimited data plan customers down to 3g speeds after they reach 5gig limit till the end of the monthly billing cycle then bring it back up to 4g. I would think that Verizon can and do do this too. Also wouldnt it seem possible that since they require us to pay for tethering and have the ability to turn on or off that feature on our cell phones that they could also have the ability to track down the ones with high data usage and throttle them down? Again I am not an expert but only speak from the experiences I have and heard.
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Im certainly no expert but I do know that AT&T has implemented a plan to throttle the unlimited data plan customers down to 3g speeds after they reach 5gig limit till the end of the monthly billing cycle then bring it back up to 4g. I would think that Verizon can and do do this too. Also wouldnt it seem possible that since they require us to pay for tethering and have the ability to turn on or off that feature on our cell phones that they could also have the ability to track down the ones with high data usage and throttle them down? Again I am not an expert but only speak from the experiences I have and heard.
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But he's on Verizon. And AT&T is throttling all data connections at 3gb or 5gb, not just when you're tethering. OP says he gets his full speeds on the phone but not the tethered device.
If Verizon was going to monitor him for tethering and try to manage the connection, they'd just shut it off and send him a warning email/SMS, not throttle.
Despite tethering and never using Wifi, I haven't exceeded the 5Gb soft cap yet. I don't think I've directly given Verizon a reason to throttle me unless they can tell that my phone is tethering without the feature being on my plan.
This weekend I tried installing different ROMs but all of them have the same low tethering speed.
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Just in time for the throttling, I've found out that the Wi-Fi on my G2 is not working as it should - even though it is connected to Wi-Fi, it'll still pull data off 3G. Also, after a few hours, the phone will simply claim that no hotspots can be found. A Wi-Fi cycle fixes this.
Yesterday morning, my phone apparently pulled in 1.73GB in 49 minutes over 3G - even though I was at home sitting behind my PC. I don't tether (got a MiFi for that) and I don't do streaming video.
T-Mobile confirmed that there is "an issue" and credited me for all the data plans on my lines, but could not remove the throttling (which brings me down to under EDGE speeds). Their only solution is to wait till the end of the billing cycle.
On my Nexus One, I never went over 2.4GB in a month, and averaged 1.8, but my G2 has already done 5.4GB this month. If I tethered, or did video I'd understand this, but I'm running the exact same apps on the G2 as I did on my N1.
The whole throttling thing is extra annoying, because my original G1 plan offered 10GB, not 5.
And of course, 20 minutes after the SMS about being throttled, I get an email advertising their new 4G network where I live.
Even after the credit, I'm pissed off- because I now have a 4G phone with 2G speeds and nobody able to fix it.
Anyone else seeing rogue data chargers or Wi-Fi issues? I'm trying some apps that claim to "fix" Wi-Fi, so I'll see whether they help reduce my data.
Why would they credit you, t-mobile doesn't charge for data overage on a smartphone.
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TheMan42 said:
Why would they credit you, t-mobile doesn't charge for data overage on a smartphone.
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Because I'm paying for 3G/4G data and now only get EDGE speeds due to a problem on their phone. The confirmed the Wi-Fi issues (it is a known issue in their system). Because there is no way for them to lift the throttling, I now have a period this month where I can't really use this phone outside the house. I barely use minutes, and rely on data for everything I do.
In addition to this, when I switched to the Android 3G plan, the limit was 10GB, and I was not (offiically) informed about the downgrade to 5GB. I'd gladly pay for more than 5GB, but their only option is to deal with it and wait for the next billing cycle.
Tonight my data speed became SO slow. Terrible ping, and very low download and upload speeds. We all know Sprint isn't fast as it is, and this is just horrible. What really is weird about this, is my brothers S3 data speeds haven't changed, and are still normal. Can Sprint slow your data speeds if you download a lot? I didn't think they did, but then again... And, if not maybe someone has an idea for why it's being like this? Could it be that I rooted my phone, and am using a wireless tethering app? I know Sprint has been trying hard to crack down on tethering that's not being paid for.
I did a prl and profile update, but that didn't really do anything.
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Tonight my data speed became SO slow. Terrible ping, and very low download and upload speeds. We all know Sprint isn't fast as it is, and this is just horrible. What really is weird about this, is my brothers S3 data speeds haven't changed, and are still normal. Can Sprint slow your data speeds if you download a lot? I didn't think they did, but then again... And, if not maybe someone has an idea for why it's being like this? Could it be that I rooted my phone, and am using a wireless tethering app? I know Sprint has been trying hard to crack down on tethering that's not being paid for.
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It's probably related to all the network upgrades going on. However...
Read your contract/TOS. Yes they can.
Sprint reserves the right, without notice or limitation, to limit data throughput speeds or quantities or to deny, terminate, end, modify, disconnect, or suspend service if an individual engages in any of the prohibited voice or data uses detailed below or if Sprint, in its sole discretion, determines action is necessary to protect its wireless networks from harm or degradation.
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billard412 said:
It's probably related to all the network upgrades going on. However...
Read your contract/TOS. Yes they can.
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I hope it's just network upgrades. My phone seems fine this morning.
here's the message:
The plan for line ********** on your account includes unlimited 4G LTE data on-smartphone only. It also comes with up to 7GB of 4G LTE data for Smartphone Mobile HotSpot to share your phone's internet with other devices. T-Mobile's systems have detected that this line has actively used methods that conceal Smartphone Mobile Hotspot usage and, as a result, significantly exceeded the 7GB limit on its plan. This activity violates our Terms and Conditions. To enforce our Terms and Conditions and protect the network experience for all our customers, continued violation will result in the line being ineligible for its current plan and moving to our 1GB limited 4G LTE plan. Details at http://t-mo.co/1J4PTjw
I have an unlimited plan with T-Mobile. This month I only used about 80 GB's (which is low compared to most months. I typically use about 200 GB). The other phone on my account is a ATT Note 2, it's rooted and unlocked. We've used 180 GB's this month. The Note 2 number did not get the message. I know T-Mobile is pushing out this for people getting around the unlimited tethering. I've never had issues though with the year I've been with them. They're stating people are using 2TB's and that who they're going after for 3000 users. I'm nowhere close to that.
I'm running BlissPop on my d851. I recently did a wipe to install an update. Before I started tethering I forgot to switch the APN from IPV6 back to IPV4. IPV6 is much more traceable, and I know for stock d85* roms for Prime Tether it rids the ipv6 to enable tethering.
Could this be the main reason they caught me? I switched back to IPV4, but I'm weary to start tethering again. Do you think I'm flagged and screwed now? Or should IPv4 and a VPN conceal me?
Any input would be help
No. They are cracking down. Go look in the general discussion section for tmobile. I have a thread about this exact issue.
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Test ipv4 as well. I can still tether to my tablet and my PC with a UI switcher. However, i can no longer tether on my PS3.
Yeah everything I read they are just screwing people. I also received a notice of excessive VPN use. I'm not hosting, I'm only a VPN user. I cut my unlimited on both my phones. I'll be switching to a prepaid carrier. When I signed up they said I had unlimited tethering. Tmobile switched my plan without my knowledge. It's BS.
I love how 1 number gets the notice and one didn't. We used a total of 790 GB's with the combined phones 1 month and had no issues. No throttling either. Averaged 35 Mb/s We just stream a lot of video.
After cutting the plan and calling COX out where I live, they gave us 50MB/s (not Mb/s) for $30 a month. cutting down to 3GB on each phone actually is saving me $10 a month. So screw TMobile. I'm actually averaging 75MB/s anyway
just wondering if anyone is running CM12 or are you all using stock rom?
blisspop is cm12 based and that's what i'm using
Punkrocknerd said:
here's the message:
The plan for line ********** on your account includes unlimited 4G LTE data on-smartphone only. It also comes with up to 7GB of 4G LTE data for Smartphone Mobile HotSpot to share your phone's internet with other devices. T-Mobile's systems have detected that this line has actively used methods that conceal Smartphone Mobile Hotspot usage and, as a result, significantly exceeded the 7GB limit on its plan. This activity violates our Terms and Conditions. To enforce our Terms and Conditions and protect the network experience for all our customers, continued violation will result in the line being ineligible for its current plan and moving to our 1GB limited 4G LTE plan. Details at http://t-mo.co/1J4PTjw
I have an unlimited plan with T-Mobile. This month I only used about 80 GB's (which is low compared to most months. I typically use about 200 GB). The other phone on my account is a ATT Note 2, it's rooted and unlocked. We've used 180 GB's this month. The Note 2 number did not get the message. I know T-Mobile is pushing out this for people getting around the unlimited tethering. I've never had issues though with the year I've been with them. They're stating people are using 2TB's and that who they're going after for 3000 users. I'm nowhere close to that.
I'm running BlissPop on my d851. I recently did a wipe to install an update. Before I started tethering I forgot to switch the APN from IPV6 back to IPV4. IPV6 is much more traceable, and I know for stock d85* roms for Prime Tether it rids the ipv6 to enable tethering.
Could this be the main reason they caught me? I switched back to IPV4, but I'm weary to start tethering again. Do you think I'm flagged and screwed now? Or should IPv4 and a VPN conceal me?
Any input would be help
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if you typically use 80gb then you are putting a target on your account. No matter what you bypass they will know cause there not messing around anymore. The best way to go unnoticed is to subscribe to an Internet provider. Where I live around 30gb they cap you.
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I bought the regular, non-Verizon unlocked Pixel 3 XL from Google directly. I'm considering changing my data plan with Verizon, and my main consideration is HotSpot usage.
I imagine the Verizon Pixel 3 XL tells Verizon when I'm using HotSpot, but can the regular, non-Verizon branded Pixel tell Verizon when I'm using HotSpot? I'm also using AdGuard with VPN, so that might obfuscate it to Verizon even more.
Yes they can. VPN only hides what ur doing not how ur connected.
How can they tell? Does Android "tag" the data in some way when it's using HotSpot?
https://www.reddit.com/r/verizon/co...vz_see_when_you_use_native_tethering/d5wma6j/
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How can they tell? Does Android "tag" the data in some way when it's using HotSpot?
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Ok....
It is not detectable,*but using tethering on Android with an second device leaves a lot of traces:
User-Agent Headers within HTTP that come from non-mobile browser
Increased Traffic consumption
Connection to services that are not available on Android/Smartphone devices (e.g. World of Warcraft)
and many more I can't think of atm.
Even when you use VPN each device that sends or request data will broadcast ur Mac address IMEI etc. Their are ways around it but it's so much easier to just go legit. Verizon has unlimited anyway so y do u need to hide it?
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Verizon has unlimited anyway so y do u need to hide it?
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Because Verizon doesn't really do "unlimited" plans anymore; they have a plan that gives you 4G speeds on hotspot until 15GB, and other plans that throttle hotspot capped at 600 Kbps. Or no hotspot at all.
They also keep changing this every few years, which is pretty annoying as it gets really confusing.
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Because Verizon doesn't really do "unlimited" plans anymore; they have a plan that gives you 4G speeds on hotspot until 15GB, and other plans that throttle hotspot capped at 600 Kbps. Or no hotspot at all.
They also keep changing this every few years, which is pretty annoying as it gets really confusing.
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Damn I'm really sorry to hear that. However that is the case now anywhere no one offers truly unlimited anymore and everyone's hotspot is now capped at a certain limit but I didn't think you would be getting 600 kg per second I figured it would be at least 3 g but then again I see some people get kept at 2G so thank your stars on that part that you're not getting kept the 256 kilobytes per second
I have unlimited at Verizon, and Hotspot as well. Been on this plan for over a year.
I rarely only used my device internet at home, I would always get on wifi but this month seeing my speeds on 5g are better I left wifi off. So the issue I noticed is because I am over 50gb t-mobile blocks 5g and forces me to less speeds. The issue is the device thinks its still on 5g and does not knock down to 4g settings and that means no internet. So image my surprise waking up with missed emails and notifications from social media. Not a big deal really but it would be nice if my device switches automatically instead of me going into settings to change over to 4g.
This what the agent said and it makes sense, but why not slow my 5g to a crawl?
"Thank you for patiently working with me today. I was able to review the account and I can see that the reason for the slow connection with your mobile data is due to that we are on data deprioritization. This means that you are already exceeded the 50 GB of high speed data threshold per month, and you will experience slow mobile data connection. But definitely this will refreshed once your new billing cycle starts.
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I rarely only used my device internet at home, I would always get on wifi but this month seeing my speeds on 5g are better I left wifi off. So the issue I noticed is because I am over 50gb t-mobile blocks 5g and forces me to less speeds. The issue is the device thinks its still on 5g and does not knock down to 4g settings and that means no internet. So image my surprise waking up with missed emails and notifications from social media. Not a big deal really but it would be nice if my device switches automatically instead of me going into settings to change over to 4g.
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I dont believe it's the data being throttled. I dont use up my 50gb data but sometimes i get no data from 5g and have to change it to lte. I think its an issue with the towers because if i move to a new location it works fine and when going back to the previous location it stops working again. Might be that they are updating the towers or something. Atleast with that location i had issues with it stopped doing it. If lte works for you and 5g doesnt then its probably not being throttled
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This what the agent said and it makes sense, but why not slow my 5g to a crawl?
"Thank you for patiently working with me today. I was able to review the account and I can see that the reason for the slow connection with your mobile data is due to that we are on data deprioritization. This means that you are already exceeded the 50 GB of high speed data threshold per month, and you will experience slow mobile data connection. But definitely this will refreshed once your new billing cycle starts.
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Doesn't matter if u switch back to 4g lte. Your data will be slowed to 2g speeds until this billing cycle is up. 50gb is a cap if high speed regardless of what network you use.
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I dont believe it's the data being throttled. I dont use up my 50gb data but sometimes i get no data from 5g and have to change it to lte. I think its an issue with the towers because if i move to a new location it works fine and when going back to the previous location it stops working again. Might be that they are updating the towers or something. Atleast with that location i had issues with it stopped doing it. If lte works for you and 5g doesnt then its probably not being throttled
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The tech promised a workaround and he honestly tried to help but no go. So we pushed it to a higher tech and they made a ticket. Second tech explained even if throttled the device should move down to 4g. Just like you said, its a tower issue that an engineer needs to check out.
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Doesn't matter if u switch back to 4g lte. Your data will be slowed to 2g speeds until this billing cycle is up. 50gb is a cap if high speed regardless of what network you use.
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After a second tier tech checked it out, she said it might be a tower issue that a engineer needs to check. She said if there is 5g issue the device should connect to 4g. Seems that 5g is on but not working. What she also said if its throttled it should switch down to other speeds. Are you sure that its not supposed to change?
Hopefully T-mobile continues to look into these "tower issues" - as others have said, 5G on T-mobile is a mess. I've just disabled it completely since it will constantly freeze the data connection on my phones.
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Hopefully T-mobile continues to look into these "tower issues" - as others have said, 5G on T-mobile is a mess. I've just disabled it completely since it will constantly freeze the data connection on my phones.
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lol
Nightwind Hawk said:
Hopefully T-mobile continues to look into these "tower issues" - as others have said, 5G on T-mobile is a mess. I've just disabled it completely since it will constantly freeze the data connection on my phones.
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I am pissed with 5g and I understand it's a new, but you are right it freezes and sometimes 4g lte is faster when i run speed tests. I can live with normal speeds, but freezing is not one of them.
My daughter consistently uses 50 to 60 gb a month alone and she never gets throttled.
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Nightwind Hawk said:
Hopefully T-mobile continues to look into these "tower issues" - as others have said, 5G on T-mobile is a mess. I've just disabled it completely since it will constantly freeze the data connection on my phones.
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You must be in north\central NJ like me. Lol. Disabled for same reason.
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strictlyphat said:
You must be in north\central NJ like me. Lol. Disabled for same reason.
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I'm in Los Angeles!!! One of their most major cities...