I bought the regular, non-Verizon unlocked Pixel 3 XL from Google directly. I'm considering changing my data plan with Verizon, and my main consideration is HotSpot usage.
I imagine the Verizon Pixel 3 XL tells Verizon when I'm using HotSpot, but can the regular, non-Verizon branded Pixel tell Verizon when I'm using HotSpot? I'm also using AdGuard with VPN, so that might obfuscate it to Verizon even more.
Yes they can. VPN only hides what ur doing not how ur connected.
How can they tell? Does Android "tag" the data in some way when it's using HotSpot?
https://www.reddit.com/r/verizon/co...vz_see_when_you_use_native_tethering/d5wma6j/
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How can they tell? Does Android "tag" the data in some way when it's using HotSpot?
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Ok....
It is not detectable,*but using tethering on Android with an second device leaves a lot of traces:
User-Agent Headers within HTTP that come from non-mobile browser
Increased Traffic consumption
Connection to services that are not available on Android/Smartphone devices (e.g. World of Warcraft)
and many more I can't think of atm.
Even when you use VPN each device that sends or request data will broadcast ur Mac address IMEI etc. Their are ways around it but it's so much easier to just go legit. Verizon has unlimited anyway so y do u need to hide it?
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Verizon has unlimited anyway so y do u need to hide it?
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Because Verizon doesn't really do "unlimited" plans anymore; they have a plan that gives you 4G speeds on hotspot until 15GB, and other plans that throttle hotspot capped at 600 Kbps. Or no hotspot at all.
They also keep changing this every few years, which is pretty annoying as it gets really confusing.
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Because Verizon doesn't really do "unlimited" plans anymore; they have a plan that gives you 4G speeds on hotspot until 15GB, and other plans that throttle hotspot capped at 600 Kbps. Or no hotspot at all.
They also keep changing this every few years, which is pretty annoying as it gets really confusing.
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Damn I'm really sorry to hear that. However that is the case now anywhere no one offers truly unlimited anymore and everyone's hotspot is now capped at a certain limit but I didn't think you would be getting 600 kg per second I figured it would be at least 3 g but then again I see some people get kept at 2G so thank your stars on that part that you're not getting kept the 256 kilobytes per second
I have unlimited at Verizon, and Hotspot as well. Been on this plan for over a year.
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I'm coming from an iPhone 4S and so far I really like the Galaxy Nexus (although it definitely does have its shortcomings compared to the iPhone). I was just playing around in the settings and found Wifi hotspot options. With the iPhone these options never worked unless you paid AT&T extra for a tethering plan (which is not even available when grandfathered into an unlimited plan). I tried turning them on and configuring a PW and lo and behold it worked! I didn't see this mentioned yet and thought others would like to know as well.
Are you rooted and using a custom rom, or still stock?
I'm still stock...just got the device last night. Also still on 4.0.1 and device shows as no updates available.
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I'm still stock...just got the device last night. Also still on 4.0.1 and device shows as no updates available.
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Lol. Will you still be this excited if and when atnt switches you to a tethering plan?
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I almost never use tethering but the few times I'm traveling it will be very beneficial. I highly doubt AT&T would switch me to a tethering plan if I use less than 1 GB of tethering per yr!
jmwein said:
I almost never use tethering but the few times I'm traveling it will be very beneficial. I highly doubt AT&T would switch me to a tethering plan if I use less than 1 GB of tethering per yr!
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You bought an unlocked phone not associated with AT&T. As a result, the tethering features built into android are not blocked. This is one of my favorite feature of my Nexus One.
I tether all the time and us ~1.5GB of data a month. Although, I have gone as high as 3GB... (I have unlimited data)
Enjoy!
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You bought an unlocked phone not associated with AT&T. As a result, the tethering features built into android are not blocked. This is one of my favorite feature of my Nexus One.
I tether all the time and us ~1.5GB of data a month. Although, I have gone as high as 3GB... (I have unlimited data)
Enjoy!
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Good to know! Thanks!
Although I do own the unlocked version of the iPhone 4S and even that phone has the tethering options blocked.
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Good to know! Thanks!
Although I do own the unlocked version of the iPhone 4S and even that phone has the tethering options blocked.
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Welcome to Android
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You bought an unlocked phone not associated with AT&T. As a result, the tethering features built into android are not blocked. This is one of my favorite feature of my Nexus One.
I tether all the time and us ~1.5GB of data a month. Although, I have gone as high as 3GB... (I have unlimited data)
Enjoy!
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Precisely...rooting or custom roms have nothing to do with this. Att effectively has no control over how you use your phone or data in this case.
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I'm coming from an iPhone 4S and so far I really like the Galaxy Nexus (although it definitely does have its shortcomings compared to the iPhone). I was just playing around in the settings and found Wifi hotspot options. With the iPhone these options never worked unless you paid AT&T extra for a tethering plan (which is not even available when grandfathered into an unlimited plan). I tried turning them on and configuring a PW and lo and behold it worked! I didn't see this mentioned yet and thought others would like to know as well.
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Uhh we knew this. Unlocked phone man. It just works. This is how phones are meant to be.
The iPhone is provisioned by AT&T and its IMEI's are known in AT&T's database. So they're able to block and charge for ridiculous services like tethering.
I have tried this out and it works. Is there anyway for AT&T to tell if we are tethering though? Should I be on a tethering apn?
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I have tried this out and it works. Is there anyway for AT&T to tell if we are tethering though? Should I be on a tethering apn?
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I've used tethering on my N1 for the past two years. Generally, I use around 1.5gb/month... No problem so far *knock on wood*.
was working - not now
yip have been using wifi hotspot for some time now
on my old SG1 and then on my Nexus
I has however stopped working recently, and cant see why
the app appears to be working but the wifi network is never discoverable
if anyone has a fix could you let me know
thanks in advance
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Lol they know when your using it tho... with my Nexus one I was sent a text message saying my plan will change if I continue with tethering... I got out of unlimited last month and its the best thing I could have done... unlimited Mobile to Mobile (Verizon Sprint and T-Mobile) but 700 minutes for land lines. . Unlimited text and 5GB a Month... I hate being throttled so the switch was made. I'm paying less then when I was unlimited =]
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for those having isues with tethering on android phones becauseits a att phone try foxfi app right on the market is great.....i dont have att but i passed the info to a friend of mine and now she is tethering for free
Has anyone had any experience with the G3's hotspot rooted or non-rooted? Any experience with signals or stability would be greatly appreciated.
A little sob story background: I live in a neighborhood that the Teleco companies have completely neglected. Even though I live in america I only have dial up. Our phones get the very Edge of sprint's LTE network but I'm running a Galaxy S2 with Wimax (which wonderful sprint discontinued a month after I bought the phone) So our only means of internet is a 3G and what little LTE my family can pick up with their various phones. I'm a gamer so I'd like to be brought into the highspeed age finally. Hotspot reliability will make or break buying the LG G3 and I'd love to get a little feedback of what to expect.
Thanks!
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Has anyone had any experience with the G3's hotspot rooted or non-rooted? Any experience with signals or stability would be greatly appreciated.
A little sob story background: I live in a neighborhood that the Teleco companies have completely neglected. Even though I live in america I only have dial up. Our phones get the very Edge of sprint's LTE network but I'm running a Galaxy S2 with Wimax (which wonderful sprint discontinued a month after I bought the phone) So our only means of internet is a 3G and what little LTE my family can pick up with their various phones. I'm a gamer so I'd like to be brought into the highspeed age finally. Hotspot reliability will make or break buying the LG G3 and I'd love to get a little feedback of what to expect.
Thanks!
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Works just the same as any other device for me, been using it a lot for my chromebook had no dropouts or issues.
Would I be able to use this phone as a hotspot out of the box like I can with my Nexus 5 or would I have to go through my carrier for that? I use my Nexus 5 as a hotspot for my Nexus 7 when I'm out and about. I wouldn't want to have to start paying monthly for that function.
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Would I be able to use this phone as a hotspot out of the box like I can with my Nexus 5 or would I have to go through my carrier for that? I use my Nexus 5 as a hotspot for my Nexus 7 when I'm out and about. I wouldn't want to have to start paying monthly for that function.
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Should work out of the box like any android phone
Are you Verizon unlimited, and that's why you're asking? If you just need something, what about FreedomPop? I know, I know - sleazy company - but they're wedded to Sprint's LTE/WiMax exsting network (if you're close), and you might be able to rig an antenna/amp to pull in that LTE. It's what I do to get V (and formerly AT&T) in my basement.
I'm keeping an eye on this thread, too, as I'm curious. I've got a JB iPhone to get the hotspot and keep my unlimited. I actually use the hotspot about once every 2-3 months, and usually for less than 1/4 of my phone-only data, so it galls me to consider adding ~$500/yr for those couple times I need a sip of data when I'm on the road. I'll be switching to the G3 as soon as its released, and seeing how it's like on the android side of things.
Protagoras said:
Should work out of the box like any android phone
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But does every phone work out of the box with tethering? I'm on T-Mobile with an older unlimited data plan, if that helps.
Coming from a Nexus 4 and 5, tethering was always an option in the settings. My concern is whether or not it's still an option in a skinned version of Android or will I need to add tethering to my plan and use a T-Mobile branded app?
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But does every phone work out of the box with tethering? I'm on T-Mobile with an older unlimited data plan, if that helps.
Coming from a Nexus 4 and 5, tethering was always an option in the settings. My concern is whether or not it's still an option in a skinned version of Android or will I need to add tethering to my plan and use a T-Mobile branded app?
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Some of T-Mobile's older unlimited plans don't like you using wifi tethering. I'm on an older unlimited and once in a while I get a webpage telling me to upgrade my plan. I'm currently using an HTC Sensation though and thinking of getting the G3.
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Are you Verizon unlimited, and that's why you're asking? If you just need something, what about FreedomPop? I know, I know - sleazy company - but they're wedded to Sprint's LTE/WiMax exsting network (if you're close), and you might be able to rig an antenna/amp to pull in that LTE. It's what I do to get V (and formerly AT&T) in my basement.
I'm keeping an eye on this thread, too, as I'm curious. I've got a JB iPhone to get the hotspot and keep my unlimited. I actually use the hotspot about once every 2-3 months, and usually for less than 1/4 of my phone-only data, so it galls me to consider adding ~$500/yr for those couple times I need a sip of data when I'm on the road. I'll be switching to the G3 as soon as its released, and seeing how it's like on the android side of things.
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Does freedom pop have true unlimited? No hidden data charges and all the data I can handle? I've used about 30gb in the last month on my 3G connection and probably another 20GB in the last 4 days on my mother's LTE. This is using Sprint's unlimited data plan. I burn through the GB and 5-10gb a month just wouldn't do.
EDIT: Just checked and no Freedom pop doesn't Calculating the data charges for my current useage would cost me about $2000 a month. No thanks.
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Some of T-Mobile's older unlimited plans don't like you using wifi tethering. I'm on an older unlimited and once in a while I get a webpage telling me to upgrade my plan. I'm currently using an HTC Sensation though and thinking of getting the G3.
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This is why I need to know how native tethering works on a G3.
Tethering is the same as any other android phone. The G3 supports wifi, blue tooth and USB tethering. How this works with US versions of the phone I dont know. In the UK tethering is monitored and controlled by the network not the phone, so the phone still has the capability. If you have a plan that allows tethering, and you dont have a crippled version of the phone there's no difference, its just like any other android phone.
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Tethering is the same as any other android phone. The G3 supports wifi, blue tooth and USB tethering. How this works with US versions of the phone I dont know. In the UK tethering is monitored and controlled by the network not the phone, so the phone still has the capability. If you have a plan that allows tethering, and you dont have a crippled version of the phone there's no difference, its just like any other android phone.
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So you're saying the ability to turn the G3 into a hotspot can be found in the settings menu?
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So you're saying the ability to turn the G3 into a hotspot can be found in the settings menu?
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What provider are you using?
partylikeaninjastar said:
So you're saying the ability to turn the G3 into a hotspot can be found in the settings menu?
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Unless your using some carried modified version of the G3 it should be under the settings menu as "tethering & networks"
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So you're saying the ability to turn the G3 into a hotspot can be found in the settings menu?
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Yes, that's correct.
Osseon said:
Does freedom pop have true unlimited? No hidden data charges and all the data I can handle? I've used about 30gb in the last month on my 3G connection and probably another 20GB in the last 4 days on my mother's LTE. This is using Sprint's unlimited data plan. I burn through the GB and 5-10gb a month just wouldn't do.
EDIT: Just checked and no Freedom pop doesn't Calculating the data charges for my current useage would cost me about $2000 a month. No thanks.
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Damn, that's serious (mobile) data! No, FP would be just to get you connected, not an all-you-can-eat buffet. (I used it as backup on the road, but their coverage around me sucked)
here's the message:
The plan for line ********** on your account includes unlimited 4G LTE data on-smartphone only. It also comes with up to 7GB of 4G LTE data for Smartphone Mobile HotSpot to share your phone's internet with other devices. T-Mobile's systems have detected that this line has actively used methods that conceal Smartphone Mobile Hotspot usage and, as a result, significantly exceeded the 7GB limit on its plan. This activity violates our Terms and Conditions. To enforce our Terms and Conditions and protect the network experience for all our customers, continued violation will result in the line being ineligible for its current plan and moving to our 1GB limited 4G LTE plan. Details at http://t-mo.co/1J4PTjw
I have an unlimited plan with T-Mobile. This month I only used about 80 GB's (which is low compared to most months. I typically use about 200 GB). The other phone on my account is a ATT Note 2, it's rooted and unlocked. We've used 180 GB's this month. The Note 2 number did not get the message. I know T-Mobile is pushing out this for people getting around the unlimited tethering. I've never had issues though with the year I've been with them. They're stating people are using 2TB's and that who they're going after for 3000 users. I'm nowhere close to that.
I'm running BlissPop on my d851. I recently did a wipe to install an update. Before I started tethering I forgot to switch the APN from IPV6 back to IPV4. IPV6 is much more traceable, and I know for stock d85* roms for Prime Tether it rids the ipv6 to enable tethering.
Could this be the main reason they caught me? I switched back to IPV4, but I'm weary to start tethering again. Do you think I'm flagged and screwed now? Or should IPv4 and a VPN conceal me?
Any input would be help
No. They are cracking down. Go look in the general discussion section for tmobile. I have a thread about this exact issue.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3189003
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Test ipv4 as well. I can still tether to my tablet and my PC with a UI switcher. However, i can no longer tether on my PS3.
Yeah everything I read they are just screwing people. I also received a notice of excessive VPN use. I'm not hosting, I'm only a VPN user. I cut my unlimited on both my phones. I'll be switching to a prepaid carrier. When I signed up they said I had unlimited tethering. Tmobile switched my plan without my knowledge. It's BS.
I love how 1 number gets the notice and one didn't. We used a total of 790 GB's with the combined phones 1 month and had no issues. No throttling either. Averaged 35 Mb/s We just stream a lot of video.
After cutting the plan and calling COX out where I live, they gave us 50MB/s (not Mb/s) for $30 a month. cutting down to 3GB on each phone actually is saving me $10 a month. So screw TMobile. I'm actually averaging 75MB/s anyway
just wondering if anyone is running CM12 or are you all using stock rom?
blisspop is cm12 based and that's what i'm using
Punkrocknerd said:
here's the message:
The plan for line ********** on your account includes unlimited 4G LTE data on-smartphone only. It also comes with up to 7GB of 4G LTE data for Smartphone Mobile HotSpot to share your phone's internet with other devices. T-Mobile's systems have detected that this line has actively used methods that conceal Smartphone Mobile Hotspot usage and, as a result, significantly exceeded the 7GB limit on its plan. This activity violates our Terms and Conditions. To enforce our Terms and Conditions and protect the network experience for all our customers, continued violation will result in the line being ineligible for its current plan and moving to our 1GB limited 4G LTE plan. Details at http://t-mo.co/1J4PTjw
I have an unlimited plan with T-Mobile. This month I only used about 80 GB's (which is low compared to most months. I typically use about 200 GB). The other phone on my account is a ATT Note 2, it's rooted and unlocked. We've used 180 GB's this month. The Note 2 number did not get the message. I know T-Mobile is pushing out this for people getting around the unlimited tethering. I've never had issues though with the year I've been with them. They're stating people are using 2TB's and that who they're going after for 3000 users. I'm nowhere close to that.
I'm running BlissPop on my d851. I recently did a wipe to install an update. Before I started tethering I forgot to switch the APN from IPV6 back to IPV4. IPV6 is much more traceable, and I know for stock d85* roms for Prime Tether it rids the ipv6 to enable tethering.
Could this be the main reason they caught me? I switched back to IPV4, but I'm weary to start tethering again. Do you think I'm flagged and screwed now? Or should IPv4 and a VPN conceal me?
Any input would be help
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if you typically use 80gb then you are putting a target on your account. No matter what you bypass they will know cause there not messing around anymore. The best way to go unnoticed is to subscribe to an Internet provider. Where I live around 30gb they cap you.
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Hello everyone,
I currently have a samsung galaxy s5 rooted specially for the hotspot.
I am thinking of changing my unlimited sprint data plan for any carrier on that would work like sprints unlimited hotspot using a new ONEPLUS3, with no data slowdowns . Any suggestions! Thanks
darko454 said:
Hello everyone,
I currently have a samsung galaxy s5 rooted specially for the hotspot.
I am thinking of changing my unlimited sprint data plan for any carrier on that would work like sprints unlimited hotspot using a new ONEPLUS3, with no data slowdowns . Any suggestions! Thanks
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T mobile is great to me.
Thanks! Is you data plan prepaid? Does your download speed slows down after any over limit?
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Thanks! Is you data plan prepaid? Does your download speed slows down after any over limit?
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I'm a long time customer of T-Mobile. I have a 30 dollar unlimited package. Unlimited everything, though I think after 10 or so GBs, it goes to 3g. I think that's how it works. But I've never noticed any slow downs. Probably because I never really reach 10gb. But they still offer unlimited plans I believe. And op3 works great with the carrier. Simple SIM swap and you're ready!
My mother has a 3 or 4gb plan. I think she pays like $15 a month. She's not a big user of her phone, and she has an iPhone 6. She's been a customer as long as me.
So my plan would be extremely cheap if I didn't still owe for my old lg g4 and my htc10. Once those are paid off, my plan will be very inexpensive
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Oh, and it's a 2 year contract like pretty much anyone else. You pay monthly.
And Wi-Fi hotspot limit is 6gb I believe on all unlimited plans. I think after 6 it just slows speed. Not positive though on that.
Is there any way to trick the mobile hotspot?
I mean using the modified hotspot so it wont know the difference between the hotspot or the mobile data?
Like Sprints unlimted Data PLan, it doesn't know the diffence.
Most carriers can tell since the user agent of your browser on a PC communicates that it's a PC even if traffic is being routed through your phone
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MetroPCS is the bomb. Works off of T-Mobile and you still get volte. And it's cheaper.
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Long time user of Verizon with unlimited grandfathered plan. I left it for OP3. Why? Seems to me since I buy my phones and only like the unlock able types Verizon will never get off the CDMA network and globally GSM seems to be the standard. So I left VZW for Sprint.
I am in the US and the performance and coverage has been just as good. I do have a TMobile as a second sim for home phone which is off most time....but I find that TMobile is weaker in county and has most spoty area for coverage. VZW was excellent for my US travels but so for since just switched ATT is holding fine.
Adding tether to my monthly plan is $5 a month. Not a huge deal, but thats 60 a year.
Also, some prepaids offer unlimited data but NO hotspot on those plans.
What are people doing to enable hotspot / tether anymore??
xtravbx said:
Adding tether to my monthly plan is $5 a month. Not a huge deal, but thats 60 a year.
Also, some prepaids offer unlimited data but NO hotspot on those plans.
What are people doing to enable hotspot / tether anymore??
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The $5 is no big issue, I just don't want to be throttled. Currently I'm on a Pixel XL running 11 and using the Magisk tetheringenabler with no issues. Hoping my new 6 Pro can accomplish the same.
Brian Tomek said:
The $5 is no big issue, I just don't want to be throttled. Currently I'm on a Pixel XL running 11 and using the Magisk tetheringenabler with no issues. Hoping my new 6 Pro can accomplish the same.
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The heavier users need more than your 15 or whatever gb is given for free or paid ... After that, the speed is throttle... We need unlimited speed and gb
eloko said:
The heavier users need more than your 15 or whatever gb is given for free or paid ... After that, the speed is throttle... We need unlimited speed and gb
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I'm coming from an unlimited Sprint plan. You think I'll still get throttled?
Connect to vpn and then use app: VPN tether
uran108 said:
Connect to vpn and then use app: VPN tether
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VPN, regular VPN? The best ad blocker I seen is ad guard, but I use VPN. It even blocks ads in games.
Let's try that one. Vpn hotspot is a mess. Pdanet+ with USB is the best as of now, but Im tired of connecting the phone. Lucky patcher needed for this one
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I'm coming from an unlimited Sprint plan. You think I'll still get throttled?
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I'm not sure if any carriers' "unlimited" is truly unlimited at the fastest speed - more often it's unlimited data, but after some specified amount (such as 15, 20, or 22 GB) of mobile data usage, they'll limit you to 3G or even 2G speeds, depending on the carrier.
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VPN, regular VPN? The best ad blocker I seen is ad guard, but I use VPN. It even blocks ads in games.
Let's try that one. Vpn hotspot is a mess. Pdanet+ with USB is the best as of now, but Im tired of connecting the phone. Lucky patcher needed for this one
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Yes, I use SurfShark + VPN tether, works perfectly fine for Cricket. More than 40Gigs of tethering data monthly
TMobile gives you 40 or 50GB of high speed tethering w/ magenta max plan. And unlimited 5G speeds, no slowdowns ever.