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[Q] Question about TMobiles new Unlimited 4G plan (Tethering)

Unlimited 4G data on T-Mobile network for accessing the web, streaming music and HD video, and downloading cool apps—as much as you want. No limits and no overages - 89.99$ a month.
Which for me is only about 5$ more. So it says its not compatible with "Smartphone Mobile Hotspot" Now I assume thats the built in stock option they lock down.. So question is, how does this effect our rooted ways of tethering and wifi hotspot making. Has anyone tried yet? Or have info about this? Thanks.

with that plan you will not be able to tether as for as i know,can they stop you?that i don't know.can they tell? not really sure,but in the past talking to tmobile they can basically tell how much you use is by there a difference in using your phone and tethering...when you tether,there more data usage....but i have the 10 gb data plan which include free tether,also if you get the 5gb plan,that also comes with free tethering...

Well I have the 2GB one atm for the cost (which is still unlimited, just slows down) but yea, orig.. they never had an app for tethering. Seems the S3 has a T-Mobile made app for tethering (Stock rom app) So Id assume using our normal root wifi tether apps.. we should be ok. Like you said, they might know the diff in the bandwidth, then again might not.. Netflix and MobiTV alone can take up alot. Not to mention Youtube in HD. I may have to try this and see what happens. Unless someone has the new plan already. I mean unlimited 4G.. True unlimited.. thats not bad at all.

I know I'm loving T-Mobile right now I'm streaming radio for a whole shift at work downloading roms and all kinds of WiFi stuff.and get this I was already was paying for the 5g data plan so when I called for them to switch me over to the unlimited 4g plan I actually saved $5 off my bill and cause I was throttled by the 5th of September it brought me right out of edge. And yes the t mobile hotspot app redirects any device connected to some T-Mobile web page. But we are good with hotspot app from the play store
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Rooted tethering still works.
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joshnichols189 said:
Rooted tethering still works.
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Thanks,
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Thanks! Great to know. I think paying 10$ more a month for the "ability" (even if not used) for TRUE unlimited is worth it. Lock in and grandfather before they change their mind. Mobile Netflix + Hdmi = Win for one example of travel use.
Do have one stupid question. Anyone know on the Official hotspot app use. If all ports are enabled? Or is it still 80 and 8080 only? Thats the only thing I could see a different on. TMO hotspot might give you more ports access. However I am unsure.

I highly doubt the T-Mobile hotspot is any better than something you can find in the market And if it's just hotspot through the settings, it's the exact same thing.

Tho if I am not mistaken... Wasnt most of the rooted wifi tether apps an "Ad-Hoc" connection vs "Infrastructure" mode? Granted computers and ios seem to handle that fine. However items like PSP, DS, and other consoles didnt like ad-hoc internet connections. Or is that different now? (I ask cause my tablet seems to host in infrastructure mode, while my G1 on its tether app did like an adhoc form)

AT&T Mobile Hotspot vs. FoxFi

Since use of the GS3's hotspot is included in AT&T's mobile share plans, is there any advantage to using FoxFi instead?

sjamie said:
is there any advantage to using FoxFi instead?
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Yep. Most definitely. I have a i747, but I don't use a AT&T SIM. Fox-Fi allows you to fully utilize your existing data plan. I've downloaded ~4GB of data on my (trial) unlimited data plan in a single day while being tethered, so I know it's worth it weight in gold from day one.

Anonymously_Unknown said:
Yep. Most definitely. I have a i747, but I don't use a AT&T SIM. Fox-Fi allows you to fully utilize your existing data plan. I've downloaded ~4GB of data on my (trial) unlimited data plan in a single day while being tethered, so I know it's worth it weight in gold from day one.
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I can see the advantage in your case. However, could Fox-Fi help me even though I have AT&T hotspot included in my Mobile Share plan?

sjamie said:
I can see the advantage in your case. However, could Fox-Fi help me even though I have AT&T hotspot included in my Mobile Share plan?
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Yes, it can still help you. Try the free version first. If you like it, then you can cancel your AT&T Hotspot package. and stick with your basic data package.
I'm in Jamaica, so we don't have AT&T here. I'm literally getting tethering for free with my unlimited data plan

Anonymously_Unknown said:
Yes, it can still help you. Try the free version first. If you like it, then you can cancel your AT&T Hotspot package. and stick with your basic data package.
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I'm not paying extra for use of AT&T's hotspot functionality because it is already included within all Mobile Share plans unless I'm missing something. If I were not on a Mobile Share plan, I can clearly see the advantage. If only I could get one of those coveted unlimited data plans...

If you want to use bluetooth instead of wifi tethering it will let you without rooting. Otherwise if you were planning on using WLAN just use the ATT mobile hotspot. I don't know of any other advantages in your situation.

cleanrom and tethering

If you install cleanrom can you tether without a hotspot plan or does at&t disallow such? Also with at&t purchase of verzion 700mhz spectrum does the fcc agreement now apply to at&t ? (this is for a tierd plan not unlimited)

to the first part of your question--you don't need a plan. cleanrom "unlocks" this feature when you normally need a hotspot/tethering plan. as long as you don't stream movies and get carried away with tethering every single day, you should be fine. i believe they CAN detect unauthorized usage if it's extreme.
2nd part--no idea. sorry.

Well the plan is a tiered plan so usage would be limited; but someone had said somewhere that if they detect tehtering they automagically upgrade your plan. My actual usage (I'm currently with verizon and thinking of switching) is below 1GB. I just don't want to get suckered into a 5GB plan with very limited data usage.
jryuuu said:
to the first part of your question--you don't need a plan. cleanrom "unlocks" this feature when you normally need a hotspot/tethering plan. as long as you don't stream movies and get carried away with tethering every single day, you should be fine. i believe they CAN detect unauthorized usage if it's extreme.
2nd part--no idea. sorry.
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Tethering?

Anyone know how to enable tethering or if any tethering apps work?
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I use the mobile hotspot app and it works

lyrad12 said:
I use the mobile hotspot app and it works
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Week that work w/out a tethering plan?
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no, but try foxfi, that's what I used before I moved to 30gb data plan

Tethering:
Most AT&T plans allow for mobile data sharing anymore. Even if your grandfathered in to the old "unlimited" plans. I've attached screen shots to the built in tethering functionality of the Note 4. Let me know if this works for you or if it's not what you're looking for.

joshklee said:
Most AT&T plans allow for mobile data sharing anymore. Even if your grandfathered in to the old "unlimited" plans. I've attached screen shots to the built in tethering functionality of the Note 4. Let me know if this works for you or if it's not what you're looking for.
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Just because you see it there in the settings doesn't mean it will work for the old unlimited plan. The phone usually calls 'home' and checks to see what plan you're on before tethering is enabled.

msk said:
Just because you see it there in the settings doesn't mean it will work for the old unlimited plan. The phone usually calls 'home' and checks to see what plan you're on before tethering is enabled.
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Right. I understand that. It worked for me when I was under the old "unlimited" plan. That's why I said that. Is it not working for you?

So wifi tethering works and you don't get some message stating that you need contact AT&T to enable this feature? I have the grandfathered unlimited data plan and I usually tether with my i717. I don't want any issues with this feature if and when I get this phone.

I am no longer on the unlimited plan but yes, it worked stock when I was on the unlimited plan using android.

I'm grandfathered in the unlimited and it does not work. It tells me to call att. That is weird that it worked for you when you had the unlimited plan.
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joshklee said:
Most AT&T plans allow for mobile data sharing anymore. Even if your grandfathered in to the old "unlimited" plans. I've attached screen shots to the built in tethering functionality of the Note 4. Let me know if this works for you or if it's not what you're looking for.
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joshklee said:
Right. I understand that. It worked for me when I was under the old "unlimited" plan. That's why I said that. Is it not working for you?
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I'm still waiting for my note 4 pre-order from Best Buy lol. If tethering works on the old unlimited plan that is awesome.

I'm on the old unlimited plan and it doesn't work for me.

Well I tried foxfi/pdanet and easytether and they both work with bt tether... For some reason WiFi still tells you to call att...
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RiNo808 said:
I'm grandfathered in the unlimited and it does not work. It tells me to call att. That is weird that it worked for you when you had the unlimited plan.
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I just changed over within the last 3 months or so to another plan but I have been using tethering out of the box on stock for a while now. Not sure why they're not letting you. As far as the old "unlimited" plan goes, I found that after 5gigs, they throttled my speeds down to less than 1mbps downstream. I changed to 10gigs per month and have had no issues, throttling or tethering.

I am still on the unlimited plan and have never been able to natively tether without root/custom rom or using something like foxfi. It results in the message you got if tried. Last time I checked with att they tried to charge me 20$ extra a month for tethering, or switching to another data plan.
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any confirmed wifi tethering solutions yet for those of us whose plans do not allow it?

Yeah I should have mentioned in the op that I have unlimited data. On my current Android with root the tethering works fine. Was honestly considering a iPhone 6+ if there are no solutions out there for this. With jailbreak on that device I know the tethering works fine on unlimited data.
Reality is a shame that there is no root solution out

If you had an unlimited data plan, you certainly shouldn't be able to turn on tethering as it was never part of that data package. It was a separate add-on (I think for another $20) in order to enable tethering, and even then, it would only give you like 5GB or some small amount like that.
Had to root to get around the call home in order to do that.
That being said I haven't heard people try too much on the Note 4 since most people do have the newer plans that include tethering. I remember hearing that FoxFi still worked, but not sure on the Note 4.

hi guys
I have a AT&T version unlocked and use it on Tmobile network... how can I enable the this feature ?? I tried but it keep saying no network connection or invalid sim ??

Hey Everyone,
Just had a friend get Note 4 from ebay and it appears to be AT&T.
Anyway with the Australian SIM in when tries to Wifi Tether it give an error.
Is their anyway to fix this what about Custom ROM ?

Does Verizon know HotSpot usage if I have unlocked Pixel 3 XL?

I bought the regular, non-Verizon unlocked Pixel 3 XL from Google directly. I'm considering changing my data plan with Verizon, and my main consideration is HotSpot usage.
I imagine the Verizon Pixel 3 XL tells Verizon when I'm using HotSpot, but can the regular, non-Verizon branded Pixel tell Verizon when I'm using HotSpot? I'm also using AdGuard with VPN, so that might obfuscate it to Verizon even more.

Yes they can. VPN only hides what ur doing not how ur connected.

How can they tell? Does Android "tag" the data in some way when it's using HotSpot?

https://www.reddit.com/r/verizon/co...vz_see_when_you_use_native_tethering/d5wma6j/

cantara256 said:
How can they tell? Does Android "tag" the data in some way when it's using HotSpot?
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Ok....
It is not detectable,*but using tethering on Android with an second device leaves a lot of traces:
User-Agent Headers within HTTP that come from non-mobile browser
Increased Traffic consumption
Connection to services that are not available on Android/Smartphone devices (e.g. World of Warcraft)
and many more I can't think of atm.
Even when you use VPN each device that sends or request data will broadcast ur Mac address IMEI etc. Their are ways around it but it's so much easier to just go legit. Verizon has unlimited anyway so y do u need to hide it?

Mech8 said:
Verizon has unlimited anyway so y do u need to hide it?
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Because Verizon doesn't really do "unlimited" plans anymore; they have a plan that gives you 4G speeds on hotspot until 15GB, and other plans that throttle hotspot capped at 600 Kbps. Or no hotspot at all.
They also keep changing this every few years, which is pretty annoying as it gets really confusing.

cantara256 said:
Because Verizon doesn't really do "unlimited" plans anymore; they have a plan that gives you 4G speeds on hotspot until 15GB, and other plans that throttle hotspot capped at 600 Kbps. Or no hotspot at all.
They also keep changing this every few years, which is pretty annoying as it gets really confusing.
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Damn I'm really sorry to hear that. However that is the case now anywhere no one offers truly unlimited anymore and everyone's hotspot is now capped at a certain limit but I didn't think you would be getting 600 kg per second I figured it would be at least 3 g but then again I see some people get kept at 2G so thank your stars on that part that you're not getting kept the 256 kilobytes per second

I have unlimited at Verizon, and Hotspot as well. Been on this plan for over a year.