Slower then other SGS2 phones?!? - T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989

Hello all, I just got the SGS2 on T-Mobile. I have had the SGS1 Fascinate, Epic 4g, Epic 4G Touch, and now T-Mobile SGS2. I must say that for some reason the interface of this one feels to be the most glitchy (for lack of a better word).
Its not as smooth in various areas, and even seems to have a lower FPS. Its very odd and frustrating considering this is the same hardware as the last phone I had.
I used the SGS2 on Sprint since the phone came out and got a deal on this one.
Anyone else notice this? I hope there is a way to fix this.
I mainly notice this when using TouchWiz but also have noticed it just in the Settings menu. I am sure it has to do with the final carrier development of the Android releases. However that alone concerns me as we mostly base our roms on official releases. I surely hope there is a AOSP for this phone, looking forward to ICS.
If anyone has any suggestions on how to make this smooth please let me know. As expected I have tried many roms which are awesome roms, but most experience what I am referring.
Thx
DeeX

Different processors
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Try a Skyrocket rom.
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I tried the skyrocket stock rom and yes indeed it runs much smoother. However the only tjing that keeps me from using it daily is the advanced toggles
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Well maybe different processors but same speeds. So its a rom thing or what? I hope ICS is smooth.. I ran ICS on the Sprint one and it was really nice.

The speed is not what makes one processor better than another. The other variants run smoother as they have the exynos processor which incorporates a better GPU allowing for smoother transitions, scrolling, etc...

DeeXii said:
Hello all, I just got the SGS2 on T-Mobile. I have had the SGS1 Fascinate, Epic 4g, Epic 4G Touch, and now T-Mobile SGS2. I must say that for some reason the interface of this one feels to be the most glitchy (for lack of a better word).
Its not as smooth in various areas, and even seems to have a lower FPS. Its very odd and frustrating considering this is the same hardware as the last phone I had.
I used the SGS2 on Sprint since the phone came out and got a deal on this one.
Anyone else notice this? I hope there is a way to fix this.
I mainly notice this when using TouchWiz but also have noticed it just in the Settings menu. I am sure it has to do with the final carrier development of the Android releases. However that alone concerns me as we mostly base our roms on official releases. I surely hope there is a AOSP for this phone, looking forward to ICS.
If anyone has any suggestions on how to make this smooth please let me know. As expected I have tried many roms which are awesome roms, but most experience what I am referring.
Thx
DeeX
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ROM - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1455292
KERNEL - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1372690
Flash these, problem fixed.

Unfortunately, this is not a software issue. It is a Cortex-A8 architecture vs. an A9. The CPU and GPU are worse on the T-Mobile/Telus versions of the S2. Nothing I have done has been able to make this phone as smooth as my international S2 :\ It's very annoying..

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Upgrade is here. Is E4GT worth it?

I know the screen, processor, etc is great...but i'm having doubts about all the radio issues (gps, signal, etc). I checked out the sprint forums and pretty much all of them were about gps and signal pretty much sucking. Are you guys having these issues with custom roms? Should i wait till the issues are cleared (or not)?
Signal is pretty good with custom roms
Idk about gps
I don't use it so often
But battery life is super amazing
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globalninja said:
I know the screen, processor, etc is great...but i'm having doubts about all the radio issues (gps, signal, etc). I checked out the sprint forums and pretty much all of them were about gps and signal pretty much sucking. Are you guys having these issues with custom roms? Should i wait till the issues are cleared (or not)?
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new (SGSIIE4GT) user here, and loving (and I mean LOVING) this phone.
i'm not having those issue on stock, OOTB, even. (meaning, I am rooted, but still on the stock ROM, out of the box. I've only upgraded the modem, and no GPS/signal issues at all)
ever since kern/modem EK02 those were (mostly) non issues.
from what I read, most of the custom ROMs either only improve, or cause no worse.
and yes, CPU/GPU, RAM and storage (internal), screen, lack of Sense, all worth it.
kingdazy said:
new (SGSIIE4GT) user here, and loving (and I mean LOVING) this phone.
i'm not having those issue on stock, OOTB, even. (meaning, I am rooted, but still on the stock ROM, out of the box. I've only upgraded the modem, and no GPS/signal issues at all)
ever since kern/modem EK02 those were (mostly) non issues.
from what I read, most of the custom ROMs either only improve, or cause no worse.
and yes, CPU/GPU, RAM and storage (internal), screen, lack of Sense, all worth it.
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I concur... This phone is SICK! Been through quite a few phones, and this one is bar none the best yet. Haven't had too many issues with the radio, but they are there. Roam control and the 1115 PRL pretty much fixed any issues that I was having though. The only reason I would maybe wait would be for the Galaxy Note, coming out relatively soon. But if you do decide to go with the E4GT you always have 14 days to return if you don't like it.
Phone is awesome. The signal issue is with sprint not the phone....imo. If you already have sprint and are happy you should be fine. Gps works great for me. I use it everyday.
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I thought they still had a 14 day period where you could try it out and still able to return without penalty? If so, why not try it for a week or 2 and see for yourself?
Phone is amazing and I am truly happy with what I have.
So, no one has problems with GPS and loss of signal?
the phone is worth it. I love mine hands down my #1 of phones right now even over the GNexus. I've got a few friends that wish they had early upgrades wanting this thing that are stuck on Evo's
Edit.
As for LOS/GPS I had LOS when the phone first came out here and there but with the newer updates it's been fine I've yet to see a LOS sign on my phone. GPs I've never really had an issue with but I do know others have I just have not run into it.
I got my phone 1 Dec and have never had a LOS once. I play "Life is Crime", multiple times a day, which requires GPS and have never had an issue.
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No GPS issues and no LoS here... great phone. Super fast and slick. Do the upgrade, you won't regret it.
Wait for the GSIII.
This phone will be surpassed soon. Also the Galaxy Note may come out for us.
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... the problem with waiting is you will get stuck in an endless loop of waiting. I agree this phone since the updates is now solid. at release it was iffy. but they were mainly software bugs.
Android300ZX said:
Wait for the GSIII.
This phone will be surpassed soon. Also the Galaxy Note may come out for us.
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Wait (at least) 6+ months for possibly a new "better" device that will have almost no dev roms?
No thanks.
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I'm loving this phone too! As you can see in my sig, I've owned many Android phones. This is the best one yet. No signal problems here. I haven't used GPS on it yet though since I got a stand alone one ...
No problems for me at all, for the past 4 months. (That's how long I've had it so far)
It was a transition from my former iPhone 4. I love it greatly. No LoS for me ever, but I do have problems with GPS here and there. Although, as of recent, it's been able to pinpoint where my location is and such.
Have been using Blazer ROM on it as well. I don't think I'd have it any other way. And with counterparts coming out (GSII Skyrocket/Note/etc.) I don't find myself WANTING those handsets. That's how awesome the phone has been to me, I just don't see a need to get anything else than this.
I've had NO problems with this phone. It's great, actually one problem and thats battery life. But thats because i use way too much (i just got an extended battery so that issue was solved). =D!!!! GET IT NOW!!!!
I decided on getting this phone. I had the Epic 4g so i am familiar with roms, kernels , and such. I actually would have stayed with the Epic if I wouldn't have dropped and broken it, but since I have an upgrade I might as well get an upgrade. I honestly thing a single core 1ghz proc was fast enough. A dual core 1.2ghz will last me years. Thanks for all the input!
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I decided on getting this phone. I had the Epic 4g so i am familiar with roms, kernels , and such. I actually would have stayed with the Epic if I wouldn't have dropped and broken it, but since I have an upgrade I might as well get an upgrade. I honestly thing a single core 1ghz proc was fast enough. A dual core 1.2ghz will last me years. Thanks for all the input!
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Awesome! Welcome to the family...
No GPS or LoS here.
Did have some low signal issues in my house but a free airave solved that.
If I were you, and depending on when the Nexus comes out for Sprint, I would wait for that. LTE support and more update support. Although the hardware on the Nexus apparently is lacking compared to this.
Regardless I'm very happy with this phone.
I've had this phone since the first day is was available and its pros far outweigh its negatives. 4G reception is great, but 3G is not as good as it was on my Optimus S. Battery life is fantastic.

Nitrous Rom (speed?), Anthrax

I read in Development forums that the new Nitrous rom is
an updated stock rom that is much faster. I have flashed
many roms and kernels in the past and never saw a speed
difference (unless overclocked). Well I tried Nitrous and again
noticed no difference in quadrant or nenamark2 scores (I game).
I flashed the hotspot hack and it did not work, so I flashed
a supposed faster anthrax kernel. Nothing got faster, but now
the hotspot wifi works. So Nitrous is a good looking rom, but
I don't get how everyone is saying it is faster. The only bugs
I found is that set cup or cpu master, as well as sd speed increase
tweeks do NOT stick after reboot. Anyone have any ideas on that?
And can people post their quadrant and nenamark2 scores to
show if it is really faster? Thanks
hotstocks said:
I read in Development forums that the new Nitrous rom is
an updated stock rom that is much faster. I have flashed
many roms and kernels in the past and never saw a speed
difference (unless overclocked). Well I tried Nitrous and again
noticed no difference in quadrant or nenamark2 scores (I game).
I flashed the hotspot hack and it did not work, so I flashed
a supposed faster anthrax kernel. Nothing got faster, but now
the hotspot wifi works. So Nitrous is a good looking rom, but
I don't get how everyone is saying it is faster. The only bugs
I found is that set cup or cpu master, as well as sd speed increase
tweeks do NOT stick after reboot. Anyone have any ideas on that?
And can people post their quadrant and nenamark2 scores to
show if it is really faster? Thanks
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Quadrant scores dont really tell you anything and can easily be manipulated, linpack scores are a slightly better judge for performance but still not truly accurate and easily manipulated, your best judge for true performance increase is to use it for several days preferably a week and see how it runs for you
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That's kind of my point. I have tried many roms/kernals and no matter
what speed claims they have, they are all the same (sense based).
I would think that 3d games like Shadowgun, Nova, or Dungeon Hunter
would seem faster/smoother with so called faster roms and kerrnels
like Nitrous/Anthrax, but they are exactly the same speed as Sprint
Stock HTC Evo 4g? All these roms floating around are visually different,
but the speed is exactly the same, so why do devs claim their rom
is faster?
I watched a guy on youtube flashed 119 roms/kernals and said
SavageZen/MUII or something is twice as fast (quadrant), but
the guy lost the ability to mount the phones SD card and 4g!!!
So, my question is:
For the Sprint HTC Evo 4g rooted,
what is THE fastest sense rom/kernel?
Or are they really all the same speed?
Mainly interested in faster gaming, and I do have chainfire installed.
Thanks
Damn Hotstocks at this point I don't think there is anything different anybody can tell you that would really meet your demand... Perhaps maybe you can seek the opinion of notorious XDA Guru "Captain Throwback" and see what he thinks on this matter, this dude forever has a good tip on just about any relevant issue.
Hmm, it would just seem that people around here would
know what is the fastest kernel/rom for full Sprint HTC evo 4g
sense compatibility. Unless I am mistaken, all the sense roms
are the same speed and people are lying when they say they
are faster (Nitrous). I can see how Cyanogen or a senseless rom
could be faster, but all the sense roms I have tried were no faster
than Sprint HTC stock. Maybe a Nitrous user can chime in here.
Hey,
I am not sure what he did to the software of the phone but it appears to me that he didn't tweak the system speed at all but if you noticed transitions are faster and he changed a lot of the animation settings to no dealy so they move faster and gives the Rom the appearance it is faster but the Rom itself has no physical speed changes. That's my two cents anyways
I hope I helped if I did please hit the thanks button
Stevo
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You do realize the evo is almost 2 yrs old and is severely limited in capabilities by its hardware right? No one can answer your question because every evo is different and every user is different what makes my evo fast may make your evo crawl and vice versa, you also have to wait several days after flashing for the rom and kernel to settle in before your really see any performance difference, you cant flash a rom for an hour or 2 and then judge it they HAVE to settle
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You do realize the evo is almost 2 yrs old and is severely limited in capabilities by its hardware right? No one can answer your question because every evo is different and every user is different what makes my evo fast may make your evo crawl and vice versa, you also have to wait several days after flashing for the rom and kernel to settle in before your really see any performance difference, you cant flash a rom for an hour or 2 and then judge it they HAVE to settle
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This is pretty much what it is hotstocks, just keep in mind these are just a few factors that may vary results from user to user.
Thanks for the info. I know the hardware is not dual core or the newest.
And I do let the rom settle in for 10 minutes. I don't see any reason why
it would need to settle in for a week, but will use it for a week. And the
statement that my evo will be a different speed than yours makes no sense.
If we both have a Sprint HTC Evo 4g running the same rom and kernel at the
stock 1ghz, they will be both the exact same speed and should quadrant the same.
Obviously if I have a bunch of programs running in the background, that changes, but I am talking about after a fresh clean flash.
hotstocks said:
Thanks for the info. I know the hardware is not dual core or the newest.
And I do let the rom settle in for 10 minutes. I don't see any reason why
it would need to settle in for a week, but will use it for a week. And the
statement that my evo will be a different speed than yours makes no sense.
If we both have a Sprint HTC Evo 4g running the same rom and kernel at the
stock 1ghz, they will be both the exact same speed and should quadrant the same.
Obviously if I have a bunch of programs running in the background, that changes, but I am talking about after a fresh clean flash.
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U obviously need to read some more, there are 3 different hardware versions of the evo 002-004 and all have slightly differnt hardware thus they all act differentlu with different software, it takes much longer than 10 minutes for hardware to adjustbto new software which it why it needs to settle in for several days
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Thanks for the info. My hardware says 0004
Does that mean I have the newest/fastest hardware?
Newest doesnt mean fastest so no it all depends on what they had when it was made they have different logic boards different cameras different screens different brands of memory but all have the same processor just different combos all run differently
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Thanks. I know my phone isn't the latest and greatest.
But I am holding out for the LTE Sprint phones coming this
summer. It would be silly to waste my 2 year upgrade on
a Galaxy SII with wimax, when I will need an LTE phone this
summer. Plus it will probably be a quad core 1920x1080 monster
also. Right now I am just trying to make my phone as fast as
possible. It is overclocked to 1.13ghz, have sd speed increase at 2048.
I thought there would be a SIMPLE answer to which sense rom and
kernel were definately the fastest, but I guess no one can answer
that simple question. I have been working on computers for 30 years,
I can install windows XP, windows vista, and windows 7 on three identical computers, I can also flash old and new bioses to the motherboards,
and I can DEFINATELY then benchmark the same machines with different bios (rom) and kernel (windows version), and tell you what is the fastest. I fail to
see why this is so difficult to do with a smartphone like the evo 4g. I would think that the rom/kernel with the highest quadrant (graphics) score and highest Nenamark2 score would be the fastest rom/kernel. Games or 3d graphics is where the phone runs into a bottleneck.
not all evo's are created equal bud, that's just how it is
Every computer, phone, tablet, game console, router, etc. is going to have significant performance variances at an individual device level. Even ones that are identically configured, running the same OS, software, firmware, drivers, etc. A 20+ year career as a network engineer showed me that, and nothing has changed in that regard with more modern electronics.
I'm running the Nitrous ROM as my daily driver so I'm rather familiar with it, and I really don't see how you can claim that anyone lied to you. The ROM has simply been tweaked to speed up the UI, transitions, and a few other things. Read the first section of the OP for that thread -- it clearly states what has been improved. Nowhere in there does it claim overclocking or anything that would improve phone gaming. The improvements related to data/Wi-Fi have quite a few other factors at play, including the base level variances between devices that I mentioned in the first paragraph. I haven't really noticed an improvement in Wi-Fi, but have noticed an improvement in 3G.
All that said, the ROM is visibly faster and "prettier" (which usually don't come together in one package) on my EVO 4G than any other Sense ROM I've put on it. You need to read/understand what the dev did and not let your expectations get so out of whack. If you want better game performance, you're simply going to have to get a better phone. For its time, the EVO 4G was an absolute BEAST. Now? There are quite a few better phones.
Thanks, and I agree. The evo can still play almost any game on the market (not gta III) with acceptable performance. Nitrous is a nice looking rom, my 3g is same speed. I am using it as my daily, but it is misleading that it is claiming to be faster than stock, it is the same. I also seem to have a problem with sd speed not sticking between reboots, even though I have checked it. Same with CPU master free (set cpu) settings not sticking thru reboot. I also think the live wallpaper wasn't sticking thru reboot, but that was on 1.2.7, haven't tried it on 1.3.1., just wastes battery.
hotstocks said:
Nitrous is a nice looking rom, my 3g is same speed. I am using it as my daily, but it is misleading that it is claiming to be faster than stock, it is the same.
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We'll just have to disagree on that one, because overall it's a much faster ROM for me. However, I use my phone as just a smartphone (multimedia, light browsing, email, texting, etc.) where the Nitrous tweaks would be more obvious and beneficial, and then use my Acer tablet far more for gaming.
I think you should just pick a Sense or AOSP ROM that you like and is well supported, and then focus your efforts on various kernels and trying out their options/settings to try to get the most out of your "old" hardware while you wait to get a new phone.
Thanks, I actually did that and it is how I found Nitrous.
I think it is the best sense rom right now, but it has a few
little bugs. I can't post yet in the dev forum for Nitrous,
but the live wallpapers definately do not stick with reboot,
goes back to Nitrous default wallpaper. Other than that
I am pretty happy with Nitrous and Anthrax kernel (for oc
and wireless tether). Real stable. I was just saying that
when the dev says it is much speedier, and his lock screen
says "Nitrous Oxide System", I expect to see a noticable
speed increase. If you put Nitrous Oxide into a Corvette or
Mustang, it doesn't just get get 1% faster, it gets 25% faster!
With Nitrous you REALLY should notice the speed difference.
Yo Hotstocks I'll give you credit for sticking to what you feel son LOL I'm shock you still debating in this thread however if it's ok with you let me give you a little tip since I noticed you might be a little excited to comment on the Dev once you get more than 10 post... Be very gentle with what you say over there because these people spend a lot of time and effort behind what they do for somebody to come and talk smack about their work... Chances are they'll rip you a new one if you cross the line... Just saying son don't take it to the heart either.

Why is this phone so sluggish compared to S2?

The specs are pretty similar and the G2 is way smoother without any hitching and lagging. Is the screen resolution really that tough for a device running gingerbread or did LG screw up somewhere?
The P930 has 2.4 times as many pixels as the Galaxy S II, so it really is a big difference. Gingerbread just isn't ideal for a 720p screen and I expect this phone to perform much better with ICS. We're already starting to see this with CM9 nightlies, but even LG's official ICS release (whenever that may be) should fly compared to Gingerbread.
That said, LG's and AT&T's bloatware aren't helping things either. Fortunately CM9 takes care of that as well. The hardware really is very good, it's just being held back by software.
it's your test results, you should be telling us why.
I agree the i777 and skyrocket (to a lesser extent the i777) feel quicker in some respects. But if you have them side by side and open apps, swipe screens, etc I think you'll find the P930 more than. Keep a up. The transitions on the Samsung devices are a little quicker and I think that gives the feeling the devices overall are as well.
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Because you need CM9!
CM9 makes this phone fly!
Unfortunately LG stock roms and their launcher are some of the worst. Custom roms really makes this phone stand out. Cyanogenmod 9 has really made this one of the best phones on the market. CM9 isn't even in release candidate form and the phones flies. I'm anxious to see the final product of cm9.
My comment above was comparing CM9 to samsungs. Stock GB for nitro blows.
The reason CM9 is still alpha is because it's not feature-complete. There's still a lot that needs to be forward-ported from CM7. A lot of people, for some reason, are complaining about how slow CM9 is coming along, but there has been a ****-ton of work just getting a stable baseline for all the supported devices out there. I like the approach they're taking by building a solid foundation before they start stacking features.
I thinks ICS will make our LG better
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I thinks ICS will make our LG better
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Yeah I really think so too after I saw this leaked lg ics rom, looks very good and much improved perfomance.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4O2UFNWR2SM
You guys understand that you can use ICS right now on your Nitro HD with CyanogenMod 9, right? It's really awesome. There's no conjecture about whether it improves phone performance, it absolutely does. It is stable enough that I'd recommend it to anyone. If you are waiting on LG and AT&T, you are missing out.
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I agree with Malnilion. CM9 is very stable right now. Definitely stable enough to use for a daily driver ROM.
How is video recording and playback, though? I actually record hd video, so stuttery is a no go for me. Same with video playback. Do 1080p mkvs play okay? If these are okay, I'm definitely switching! =)

The sad truth?

Is the sad truth that our phones will never be as smooth as it was while running gingerbread?
is it just me or will our phones ever live up to the stability of GB? I have used every ROM since I bought this phone..and GB is the "pinnacle" of software for our phone.
Now this is my first Android phone but is this the case with other phones? I.e. the software shipped with the phone is the best suited version.
Just trying to see if anyone feels the same way as I do...
Well the phone was built around that OS. Guess its like having a PC that came with XP and wanting to throw on a custom made Windows 8 OS on it.
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I'll have to politely disagree
I actually have have my phone feel more smooth on ICS and even more smoother on jelly bean.. I was on ginger bread stock for the longest time before I found out about xda and my experience has been way better since then... I even reverted back recently to try a GB Rom and felt like my experience was still better on ICS /JB
But I understand where u coming from. Every one has different experiences
-TeaM VeNuM Like A Boss
Cm9 is awesome.
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Sure, I agree that ICS and JB are way better than GB..much "sexier" to have. Matter fact, JB has sucked me back in to loving my phone. However, the argument is that no matter how hard the devs try, who do a damn good job, GB will be far and away the best OS for our phone. This includes stability, dependability and of course battery life, among other things :good:
Its not our phones fault sprint gave us a jacked ota :/
Gb wasn't always 'perfect' but ics, and eventually jb we'll most likely be just as pleasing as gb, If not more, with more features. Just give her time
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Is the sad truth that our phones will never be as smooth as it was while running gingerbread?
is it just me or will our phones ever live up to the stability of GB? I have used every ROM since I bought this phone..and GB is the "pinnacle" of software for our phone.
Now this is my first Android phone but is this the case with other phones? I.e. the software shipped with the phone is the best suited version.
Just trying to see if anyone feels the same way as I do...
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Its just you. I've had an amazing experience since Ff09 or whatever that leak was
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thegoodrat said:
Is the sad truth that our phones will never be as smooth as it was while running gingerbread?
is it just me or will our phones ever live up to the stability of GB? I have used every ROM since I bought this phone..and GB is the "pinnacle" of software for our phone.
Now this is my first Android phone but is this the case with other phones? I.e. the software shipped with the phone is the best suited version.
Just trying to see if anyone feels the same way as I do...
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Just you. Here I am rocking CM9b1.
I totally feel what your saying..cuz other phones on sprint have smooth stock ics other than ours..we can go back and fourth but the fact of the matter is samsung and sprint released a half a** update for ics ..and god bless the developers trying to improve the ics experiance!
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Could not agree more. I am back on gb after using ics for a while its insane the stability and smoothness of this phone on gb. Ics is smooth but gb just destroyed it on our phone!
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ICS is working fine fine with me.
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I also agree that Ics does not match gb YET. But they are making progress fi03 has shown us hope of that. It looks a little smoother and showing major improvement I'm both battery and signal. So Sammy is listening and working to smooth out ics. Keep in mind that there is even a newer build that we don't have yet fi06 who knows whats fixed in that. And I am willing to bet we will get some more drops this month of they continue with this pattern . So let's try and stay optimistic Sammy definitely has the financial backing now to afford good support for there devices. And since the s2 is still selling very well Sammy is continuing support and with Motorola making such a public announcement about there jb support you know sammy is gonna compete with that. So even of ics doesn't become perfect they will probably get it right in jb. Either way a little patience and optimisim will go a long way the future looks bright for our phone.
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I also agree that Ics does not match gb YET. But they are making progress fi03 has shown us hope of that. It looks a little smoother and showing major improvement I'm both battery and signal. So Sammy is listening and working to smooth out ics. Keep in mind that there is even a newer build that we don't have yet fi06 who knows whats fixed in that. And I am willing to bet we will get some more drops this month of they continue with this pattern . So let's try and stay optimistic Sammy definitely has the financial backing now to afford good support for there devices. And since the s2 is still selling very well Sammy is continuing support and with Motorola making such a public announcement about there jb support you know sammy is gonna compete with that. So even of ics doesn't become perfect they will probably get it right in jb. Either way a little patience and optimisim will go a long way the future looks bright for our phone.
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Damn like this totally made me think this was an election gig and your looking for a vote haha ..RIGHT ON!!
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I honestly never had an issue with ICS even with the past leaks besides the Wimax bug which is now fixed. Maybe phones have different effects to software. Idk but that emmc bug never affected me and I used the stock recovery to wipe more than once on several occasions lol..
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You guys must not be doing clean installs with full wipes and just doing the ota update. I haven't had any issues with ICS or JB, but I always do a thorough wipe before flashing anything and I only use aosp based roms, like AOKP or PA. I'm not a fan of TWiz so I only run it long enough to do PrL and Profile updates :shrug: if you're having issues with ICS or JB I recommend doing a thorough wipe and then flash a rom and start fresh, left over data and incompatible apps can cause all kinds of issues. I think the only reason the carriers don't wipe data on OTAs is cuz its easier to listen to ppl ***** about the update sucking than it is to listen to em ***** the update erased all their games and apps . They should just force data wipe on OTA and use the Google sync function to restore most data after a clean install, but still people would complain they lost their texts and other assorted crap that if its honestly that important should be getting saved to their external SD cards anyways, cuz if the phone breaks you're gonna lose your sh!t atleast if its on the external SD you can salvage it :thumbup:
We are legion, for we are many.
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Yes I do every time. Try flashing back to el29 run it for a day or two then flash back to ics and tell me you don't see the difference. It's pretty night and day. I am willing most people that are satisfied with ics are either just happy that's it's a little but better than the ff18. **** we were given or aren't comparing it to el29 maybe cause they never ran it or it's been So long they forgot what it feels like. When you flash back to el29 coming from ics that actually feels like the upgrade. Especially on ph 4.1
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Cm9 is a smoother experience to me at least. Also I'm getting even better battery life than on calks 3.0
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krisI0N said:
Its not our phones fault sprint gave us a jacked ota :/
Gb wasn't always 'perfect' but ics, and eventually jb we'll most likely be just as pleasing as gb, If not more, with more features. Just give her time
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This is my thought exactly. We had what, 3 or 4 official builds of GB before they got it right? And we are on number 2 for ICS.
And with that being said, I am not having any problems with ICS. The last two leaks are running great and I don't miss GB at all.
Everybody has there own experience and opinions, this is just mine.
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I agree with the OP. GB was a much more stable experience. I've flashed dozens of roms both clean and keeping user data and while ICS/JB are definitely improvements to the OS feature-wise, they tend to fail at stability including bugs, battery life, reception, and performance. I've only found one ICS rom that has actually managed a better battery life than calk's EL29 GB and that's re-calked 1.9. As far as reception goes, I get 0-1 bar on ANY ICS/JB rom/kernel/modem combo I've tried here at work and I always get 1-3 bars on GB combos such as EL26 or EL29. Performance is much better on GB for the simple reason that there's less stuff and the improvements in OS efficiency are not enough to offset the increased resource usage of all those cool new features. I also have yet to find an ICS/JB rom that handles scrolling as well as GB... with 4.x when you scroll it's either manually by holding your finger and dragging slowly to pan down or it's superobnoxiously fast and you go from top to bottom but have a hard time scrolling to anywhere just shy of the top or bottom without manually panning to those points. On GB the scrolling is slower so on a long page it may take a while to get to the bottom but at least you can scroll to any point fairly easily once you get used to the scrolling speed. ICS/JB roms have bugs too... mostly minor little annoyances that aren't worth asking a dev to fix. App compatibility is another huge hit for 4.x roms as is the major wifi bug that every 4.x rom I've tried has had which causes the wifi to show as connected after a wakeup but you can't even access google.
Yes, there are certainly some features about ICS/JB which I really enjoy and this is why I keep flashing more roms in the hopes that maybe eventually I'll stumble across the perfect rom/kernel/modem combo to make my phone uber. Re-Calked 1.9 with Agat's 5.4 and FH23 has so far been a decent step in that direction but it's still not perfect as the wifi problem still exists and scrolling is still ICS scrolling but one of these days I'll find the perfect non-GB rom.
Well it seems some people arent understanding my post. Sure, cm9 is great. Ive been running pa cm10 for the past week cause its been so fun. But the best GB ROMs have given me the best experience even it wasn't as "fun"
Maybe idk how to flash properly or my phone sucks lol

Note 2 - How's the ROM scene?

I'm coming from the S3 where the ROM scene is frankly quite pathetic, though it's steadily improving.
How's it with the note 2? Are there any major bugs with the popular ROMs? And how's the S-Pen support in custom ROMs?
Thanks a lot!
cyanide911 said:
I'm coming from the S3 where the ROM scene is frankly quite pathetic, though it's steadily improving.
How's it with the note 2? Are there any major bugs with the popular ROMs? And how's the S-Pen support in custom ROMs?
Thanks a lot!
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I'm new here at GN2 forums (ignore the post count, I've been lurking since 2011), but I just recently came over from GN1.
I'm guessing the architecture isn't vastly different, as I saw plenty of features ported to the GN1 from the GN2 back when I was there. So far what I have observed is that there are fewer ROMS here, this is owed to the phone being newer. Also, the roms being cooked here seem relatively stable with a lot less bricking.
As for recurring problems, let's hope some veterans can chime in on that, but I haven't noticed anything major (wifi works, no sudden dials etc). All in all it feels like a very fresh scene with ever-improving innovations, not even a year old so what can we expect right. Your have a GN2 or you just curious?
I'm taking a guess and saying it's even worse here regarding "movement". There's not much left to do, anyway. It would be lovely to have proper phablet interface support in stock-based ROMs, but... Well, it's pretty much "stable" here. Maybe It'll change for a couple of weeks after we get our hands in the official 4.2 ROMs due to next month.
No major bugs. In a few, there's one obscure Wifi-to-gadget or another that no one uses that doesn't work, but it depends on the baserom it is using - you see, Samsung's original comes with those bugs. In AOSP, you should expect a little worse battery life, since we don't have Exynos's sources. But they are still pretty nice.
S-pen is supposed to work with all Stock-based ROMs. There's a nice little app called S-pen Helper if you are not using the stock Launcher, but I don't remember right now if it works with an AOSP-based ROM.
It's a somewhat boring scene here, but we have all of the must-have stuff, like less-bloaty Stock, a few ROMs (many of them based on S3's work, by the way), CM, a few KANGs, and ParanoidAndroid. I had more fun testing stuff with my long dead Motorola Defy.
ok both GN2 and GSIII have the same hardware, so the most important thing in development in my opinion is the kernel development, and here you can have whatever you have with gs3 kerenel, and and about roms, i think you also can have the same experience, keep in mind that what above posters said that there are no more things to do now incase of stock roms, and aosp, only we are waiting a strong build of tablet/phaplet rom without lags (there are good ones out there but needs minor improvements), so i think you will be fine here, the only one thing that may be slow here is porting other OS, it will be faster incase of SG3,
How can you say the scene i pathetic??? Build your own Rom and then say something. You all need to learnd to appreciate other peoples work.
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I would say it's more than decent. Sheer volume might not be mind blowing - but we have stable AOSP ROMs, plenty of excellent touchwiz ROMs, etc. - so yeah. Major touchwiz ROMs are near bug free - and AOSP ROMs have some minor bugs like with Camera etc. IIRC - other than that it's all fine.
It's worse than the S3 yet it hardly matters. This phone is a beast out of the box. Many users are happy to run a rooted stock rom with the xposed and/or simplistic frameworks installed. I am one of those people.
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This is even worse than " what's the best rom" threads.. guys s3 forums are probably the best forums on xda due to developers interest. . note 2 forums are great too we have some of the best devs out there so please learn to show some respect
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Hahaha.
A stock, unrooted Samsung Galaxy Note 2 is better than a custom ROM based Samsung Galaxy S3 actually.
Just an opinion.
Simone said:
Hahaha.
A stock, unrooted Samsung Galaxy Note 2 is better than a custom ROM based Samsung Galaxy S3 actually.
Just an opinion.
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Couldn't agree more tbh. Obviously it's tenfold better if you're rooted with custom kernel - but stock was absolutely fine for most parts on Note II.
I'm pure stock and it's a beast. Waiting for 4.2.2 and thats it. This is the first phone that I didn't touch i any way.
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gvpula said:
I'm pure stock and it's a beast. Waiting for 4.2.2 and thats it. This is the first phone that I didn't touch i any way.
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Yeah same 4 me. Just root
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Thread closed for 2 reasons:
1. Its a best ROM thread.
2. Would it kill you to look in the Android Development forum if you wanted to know what development was like? I think my IQ dropped by 20 points just by reading the first page of this thread.

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