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I think the EVO 4G and Sprint still the best out there

After having my EVO 4G, and on Sprint for the first time since getting my EVO, I am very satisfied still, 8 months later.
My EVO is rooted with "Myn's" ROM, and the phone is blazing fast, ans silky smooth, and so customizable it is awesome. I think the EVO is still one of the top Android phones available, even after 6+ months being out, only the HTC Thunderbolt being better.
And Sprint service in Chicago has been very good. Much better than T-Mobile which is very spotty and known for dropped calls, and has the worst building penetration making T-Mobile phones useless inside buildings. And ATT isn't much better. Sure Verizon might be the best, but you pay through the nose for Verizon, very expensive plans. Sprint pricing is great for what you get, and their Family plans for two phones is very affordable.
I have hope Sprint will surprise us this summer with some awesome new phones. I do believe we will see an EVO2 in June or July, and it will be the best Android phone to date. And also expect to see a nice Samsung Galaxy 2 phone sooner.
So for me personally I am staying with Sprint. Unless Summer and Fall comes and goes with no new high end Android releases, then I will jump ship. But I am sure in the next 6 months or sooner Sprint will get one or two top end Droids.
And the iPhone 4 on Verizon is just not worth it to me. Not customizable unless jailbreaked, and the pricing plans on Verizon for 2 iPhone4's on a family plan are way higher than 2 EVO's on Sprint.

Well can't disagree with you. I've only had my Evo since about this past November, running CM7 nightlies, and wouldn't go back. Verizon is expensive and I believe the Thunderbolt will be competition, and the iPhone can sit on the bench and look at the Android it wishes it could be.

Zorachus said:
After having my EVO 4G, and on Sprint for the first time since getting my EVO, I am very satisfied still, 8 months later.
My EVO is rooted with "Myn's" ROM, and the phone is blazing fast, ans silky smooth, and so customizable it is awesome. I think the EVO is still one of the top Android phones available, even after 6+ months being out, only the HTC Thunderbolt being better.
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Obviously you are happy with Myn's ROM have you used any others? I kinda got my self into a bind by rooting and not really being knowledgeable enough to know what I was getting into. What are the things you like about Myn's ROM and is it easy enough to update and not have to flash 17 different components to get it to work. Obviously a generalized question but I would like to be able to not have to spend hours in forums trying to figure out how to correct and get pieces to work such as 4G and font fixes and HULU fixes and app2sd, etc.
Thanks in Advance for any advice.

jbrun7 said:
Obviously you are happy with Myn's ROM have you used any others? I kinda got my self into a bind by rooting and not really being knowledgeable enough to know what I was getting into. What are the things you like about Myn's ROM and is it easy enough to update and not have to flash 17 different components to get it to work. Obviously a generalized question but I would like to be able to not have to spend hours in forums trying to figure out how to correct and get pieces to work such as 4G and font fixes and HULU fixes and app2sd, etc.
Thanks in Advance for any advice.
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I like "Myn's" ROM the best because it still keeps the core "Sense UI" components, I like the dialer, contacts, and e-mail that Sense provides, it is just put together smart and nice design, no need to change it. But Myn's also get rid of the crappy Sprint and other bloatware that will slow down your phone. And his ROM makes the phone faster and smoother, but also good on battery too.
You just need the main zip file for Myn's, and a few add on's to make it look cooler, they all on the first page of his ROM. I have tried the other very popular ROM, Cyanogen 6.1, and it is very well done, just not my cup of tea, because of the lack of Sense. I like the business aspect feel of Sense, very clean, and great for certain functions.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=793471

You would be happy with Myns RLS5. It's a sense Rom, so its like stock, only faster, lighter, looks better and with awesome battery life. 4g works, and under his addons, he has the hacked flash for hulu. I don't know much about app2sd, never had ran out of memory yet.
I would try that with a netarchy-toastmod kernel. I was able to get 14 hours of battery life with medium usage on the stock battery. That would put you at only two flashes, one for the Rom and one for the kernel.
If you want visual customizations, you would have to find what theme/icons/etc you like and flash it.
Hope this helps out a bit

I agree with the OP. The EVO has been hands down the best phone I've ever owned and I currently have no "phone envy" but will happily purchase the sequel to this phone when it comes out.
Android phones are at the point where there's not very much that can be added to give phone envy. They all do the same thing. I guess the only thing that would make the phone better is an AMOLED or Super LCD screen. Other than that, what else does the new generation of phones do that mine can't? 3D? Don't care. Dual-cores? AFAIK, Android can't even utilize dual-cores properly yet. More RAM? Besides AMOLED/Super LCD, this is probably the only thing I'd want more of even though I haven't yet reached a point where I've been limited by the amount of RAM the EVO has. More Storage? Eh, 3rd place on my list of wants.

I agree the Sprint / EVO 4G combination cannot be beat out there if you look the following factors:
Cost of service - Unlimited Data / Text / Any carrier Mobile to Mobile = 109.99 (incl. $10 4G fee)
VZW - Unlimited Data / 5000 Text messages / Only 5 phone #s on any carrier unlimited = 119.98 (VZW hasn't published their LTE 4G fee yet, but assume it will be $10 so that puts the total up to 129.98)
Specs for phone
Only phone to beat EVO specs isn't officially released yet.. the Thunderbolt on Verizon. Thunderbolt beats Evo on following specs:
Sense 2.0 vs EVO Sense 1.6
RAM 768 vs EVO 512
Internal Memory 8GB and 32GB SD Card included vs EVO 1GB and 8GB
Weight 5.5 oz vs EVO 6.0 oz
Difference in weight is most likely due to the SMALLER battery the Thunderbolt is coming out with.. 1400mAh vs Evo 1500mAh.
So taking into account cost of plans and even when the Thunderbolt comes out the Evo specs are still VERY comparable, I would go with Sprint and the 4G any day.
I have heard rumor that Sprint is going to do away with the Unlimited Everything plans, but my local Sprint reps deny this. Has anyone else heard anything?

jbrun7 said:
Obviously you are happy with Myn's ROM have you used any others? I kinda got my self into a bind by rooting and not really being knowledgeable enough to know what I was getting into. What are the things you like about Myn's ROM and is it easy enough to update and not have to flash 17 different components to get it to work. Obviously a generalized question but I would like to be able to not have to spend hours in forums trying to figure out how to correct and get pieces to work such as 4G and font fixes and HULU fixes and app2sd, etc.
Thanks in Advance for any advice.
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make a backup and try them all, you will learn with hands on experience, it may look daunting and difficult at first but its not.
and don't listen to the mynions, they are brainwashed and will mynja your phone and brainwash you too

I actually got **kind of** bored with my Evo recently, and I went phone shopping for something newer and better. I couldn't find anything! There's literally not another phone on the market today that I would trade my Evo for.

NewZJ said:
make a backup and try them all, you will learn with hands on experience, it may look daunting and difficult at first but its not.
and don't listen to the mynions, they are brainwashed and will mynja your phone and brainwash you too
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Haha mynions? That's not such a bad thing!
I dunno I tried asop but it just wasn't me. I like sense, been using sense since the HTC diamond days. Just used to it I guess. To each their own though, each has pros and cons.

matt2053 said:
I actually got **kind of** bored with my Evo recently, and I went phone shopping for something newer and better. I couldn't find anything! There's literally not another phone on the market today that I would trade my Evo for.
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i know right i did the same and cant even find a different android that can beat the evos specs in todays android phones , evo is simply amazing

Funny I was talking to my brother (epic 4G user really pissed about official froyo)and my sister (HTC shift 4G user ) and evo had been my best phone so far so many roms to choose from is like having different phone and there is nothing in the market the I envy, at one point I got the iPhone 4 and returned and wanted the nice screen from the galaxy phones, but I mean Verizon coming out with HTC thunderbolt 8 months later that I got my evo which is an Evo with update look and update sense but everything else we had for the past 8 months so seriously they mess up I hope they come out with an Evo 2 and if they don't that would really be dumb part from sprint and HTC
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Zorachus said:
I like "Myn's" ROM the best because it still keeps the core "Sense UI" components, I like the dialer, contacts, and e-mail that Sense provides, it is just put together smart and nice design, no need to change it. But Myn's also get rid of the crappy Sprint and other bloatware that will slow down your phone. And his ROM makes the phone faster and smoother, but also good on battery too.
You just need the main zip file for Myn's, and a few add on's to make it look cooler, they all on the first page of his ROM. I have tried the other very popular ROM, Cyanogen 6.1, and it is very well done, just not my cup of tea, because of the lack of Sense. I like the business aspect feel of Sense, very clean, and great for certain functions.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=793471
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Thanks for the info. I am looking for something that has the Sense UI and close to stock. I also want something easy to maintain and MYN's ROM may be just that. I have looked over Myn's site and downloaded the ROM. I will give it a try.

robbyhousley said:
You would be happy with Myns RLS5. It's a sense Rom, so its like stock, only faster, lighter, looks better and with awesome battery life. 4g works, and under his addons, he has the hacked flash for hulu. I don't know much about app2sd, never had ran out of memory yet.
I would try that with a netarchy-toastmod kernel. I was able to get 14 hours of battery life with medium usage on the stock battery. That would put you at only two flashes, one for the Rom and one for the kernel.
If you want visual customizations, you would have to find what theme/icons/etc you like and flash it.
Hope this helps out a bit
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Not to up on kernals. Which netarchy-toastmod kernel did you use?
Thanks for any info.

jbrun7 said:
Not to up on kernals. Which netarchy-toastmod kernel did you use?
Thanks for any info.
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I've had great luck with the 4.3.2 CFS SBC kernels

I'm not knocking myn's rom at all (it was actually the first rom I ever flashed) but I'm currently using mikfroyo v4.4 with chogardjr's blue theme and I love it. Super fast, no bloatware, and hulu works. I'm also running a sbc kernel. (I forget which one but check my sig)

omg this is a pleasant discussion and change of pace from the General section. It seems the people who only have only one descended testicle hang out there.
I LOVE my Evo. It's giant, fast, 4g with all the bells and whistles. Our dev community is amazing. My plan is cheaper than it's ever been.
As for Roms, I'm using Konikub Elite Rom right now with MS79723's SBC kernel #15 v7. I get roughly 12 hours of battery life with moderate-heavy usage.
I have used Myn RLS5 and MikFroyo 4.5. Also have some experience with a Gingerbread Rom. I've used CM on prior phones, but I love my 4g too much to not use it.
Big fan of the Evo and I can't wait to see what our successor looks like.

I just hope Sprint really does get a high end Android successor to the EVO this Summer. Rumors of T-Mobile getting the first next gen HTC device in May, will be dual core, 4.3" screen, same form factor as the EVO.
I am afraid that Sprint won't get a true EVO 2 ? Might have to hope for a solid Samsung Galaxy S2 device, they are supposed to me much improved, with larger screen, dual core, better battery, and brand new next gen Super AMOLED screen. As long as it can be rooted quickly and good ROM's made for it, I would be all over that. But not even sure Sprint will get that either.

I agree even after having my evo fro 6 months I find more tweaks and items to make my phone better. Love it!

jbrun7 said:
Not to up on kernals. Which netarchy-toastmod kernel did you use?
Thanks for any info.
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I'm using netarchys newest beta (4.3.2) more aggressive havs no sbc. Havs is a type of auto voltage regulation and sbc is the super battery mod which enables trickle charge beyond 90% to keep your battery charged as the stock HTC drivers stop charging at 100% and don't charge again until it drops to 90%, I don't use it cause of reports that it might damage the battery, so I stick to non sbc kernels.

[Q] how do I improve benchmark scores?

My benchmark scores are terrible, just short of 1100. According to the benchmark app, quadrant, I am very under average compared to most Evos. What are some mode, roms, hacks, etc that I can run to get back to at least average, if not higher? I'm currently trying out Mik Z and I typically run either MikFroyo or Konikub's Elite Series II.

I know that those numbers look great when they are high, but the real test is...does your phone feel fast? Dont put too much faith in those benchmarks, your eyes, and hands will tell you if your phone is fast or not. Cheers!

Semantics said:
I know that those numbers look great when they are high, but the real test is...does your phone feel fast? Dont put too much faith in those benchmarks, your eyes, and hands will tell you if your phone is fast or not. Cheers!
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The phone works perfectly on every rom I've used except CM7 (I used the wimax alpha, so it wasn't perfect for me). Very fast, iPhone fast even. However, I know that our UI is processor based and not graphics based (so our Adreno 200 doesn't have to process the home screens and such). This is strictly because I've seen Evos run 1700s and I'd like to try to get it.

Most of the roms that run 1300 and above are aosp roms. And it also depends on overclock speed and and kernel. it isn't just about choosing the right rom but the right combination of rom kernel and clock speed. it is basically trial and error. This website was started by skydeaner and it is a review of several different roms and kernels. It is a good website for the information that you want and can help minimize the amount of trial and error. hope this helped
http://home.comcast.net/~evoreviews/

caguirr4 said:
Most of the roms that run 1300 and above are aosp roms. And it also depends on overclock speed and and kernel. it isn't just about choosing the right rom but the right combination of rom kernel and clock speed. it is basically trial and error. This website was started by skydeaner and it is a review of several different roms and kernels. It is a good website for the information that you want and can help minimize the amount of trial and error. hope this helped
http://home.comcast.net/~evoreviews/
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well you also have to keep in mind every phone is going to act different. Some phones can over clock much higher than others. Some kernals play well with one phone, and terrible with another.
So you could exactly match my setup, overclocked exactly the same, everything, and yet one phone or the other is going to almost always be faster.
I know my phone doesn't seem to have issues one way or another betweem BFS and CFS kernals, but some people I know, and I've seen people say it on here, their phones really only handle one or the other very well.
but as the other guy said, if you want fast speeds, dump the sense roms, AOSP, specially GB is going to be much faster.

Gb is fast. Cm7 with savagedzen cfs at 1190mhz averages 1500-1700 I have gotten 1400 with mikfroyo 4.5 and netarchy 4.3.2 cfs more have.
Sent from my (insert daily ROM name here) Evo 4g

nosympathy said:
well you also have to keep in mind every phone is going to act different. Some phones can over clock much higher than others. Some kernals play well with one phone, and terrible with another.
So you could exactly match my setup, overclocked exactly the same, everything, and yet one phone or the other is going to almost always be faster.
I know my phone doesn't seem to have issues one way or another betweem BFS and CFS kernals, but some people I know, and I've seen people say it on here, their phones really only handle one or the other very well.
but as the other guy said, if you want fast speeds, dump the sense roms, AOSP, specially GB is going to be much faster.
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Yup that is very true. I agree with you in every word that you just said. Especially about dumping sense and picking up aosp
Sent from my dark WiMax infested CM7 Super...Mario...Saiyen...Street Fighter...oh yeah SuperSonic.

what rom is best for me?

okay, folks, so, i got clockwork mod, the lastest version, i have no idea what my radio is.
what rom would work best for me?
i just want
gingerbread
Sense
decent camera (not choppy like the default rom)
and decent speed
that's about it. basic stock with fast responses in a nutshell of the post.

For a fast, gingerbread sense 2.1 ROM I would try either newts optimized shift or Wild Stangs pure speed.

Any reason why you need gingerbread? I'm running one of Chingy's Gingerbread ROMs on my Thunderbolt, OC'd to 1.41, and that about what it takes to make it work smoothly. I tried a GB rom on my old dInc a few weeks ago. It was the herky-jerkiest thing I'd ever put on there. If you HAVE to have Sense, avoid Sense 3.0 elements and avoid anything 3D. AOSP like CM7 or the like is, in my experience, the only smart way to run GB on a dInc or EVO. GB in itself isn't the killer, it's Sense running on top of it.

loonatik78 said:
Any reason why you need gingerbread? I'm running one of Chingy's Gingerbread ROMs on my Thunderbolt, OC'd to 1.41, and that about what it takes to make it work smoothly. I tried a GB rom on my old dInc a few weeks ago. It was the herky-jerkiest thing I'd ever put on there. If you HAVE to have Sense, avoid Sense 3.0 elements and avoid anything 3D. AOSP like CM7 or the like is, in my experience, the only smart way to run GB on a dInc or EVO. GB in itself isn't the killer, it's Sense running on top of it.
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why are you bashing?, i asked a question about roms, not for people to bash stuff.

Kiboe said:
okay, folks, so, i got clockwork mod, the lastest version, i have no idea what my radio is.
what rom would work best for me?
i just want
gingerbread
Sense
decent camera (not choppy like the default rom)
and decent speed
that's about it. basic stock with fast responses in a nutshell of the post.
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To check your radio go to
Settings > About Phone > Baseband Version
I'll have to give you fair warning that the Sense GB's are a drainer on performance and battery - I would first suggest you try out SkyRaider (http://rootzwiki.com/showthread.php?1314-ROM-SkyRaider-Sense-4.2-UPDATED-6-28-11)
This is Froyo but it's sense and very stable, smooth, quick, and great battery life. I used it for a long while before I made the switch to CM7.
From personal experience if you're going gingerbread I say CM7 or OMFGB. Also MIUI is another popular choice (if you're into it- very different from any other ROM).
ADW launcher comes with CM7, and at first that was the whole reason I stopped using CM7, then I figured out you can change the launcher.. haha
Launcher Pro+ was a much better choice for me, so if you go that route and you don't like ADW- you know where to turn
Kernel's are another very major part of how well your phone performs and also your battery life. Chad's incredikernel are by far the top choice for both Sense and AOSP kernel's.
As always, if you have bad luck with one ROM or kernel, get suggestions and try another. There IS a perfect combination waiting for you

From experience, I would have to agree with loonatik78 about Sense 3.0's effects on phone performance. With that said, I absolutely love Sense and stayed on Sense 2.1/3.0 roms until 3.0 roms received proper treatment and I subsequently switched over to Pure 3.0 roms several weeks ago. I agree with loonatik78 in the sense that you should avoid a pure 3.0 rom IF you want generally less lag but as development continues they get better everyday.
I would suggest Synergy rom from Incubus26jc, Optimized Shift from Newtoroot, AND Nils Business Gingersense 2.1/3.0 +3d. I respect these dev's work and recommend them with ease. As far as the camera, I don't take pics often so I can't provide much insight there. I know Nils' rom is in the process of including hdr and panorama as a setting in the camera app courtesy of Newtoroot (who included it in his Hybrid Sense 3.0 rom I believe). Hopefully you peak in and see what each Sense 2.1/3.0 rom available has to offer and find your daily.

Wdforty's Inc2 Remix hands down. Its a Sense 2.1 ROM with the nice 3.0 bits added in and the battery life is pretty good. It's pretty stable as well.
For the full Sense 3.0 experience I would give Nils Gingersense 3.0 a try. He does great work as well and his ROM is quite snappy for 3.0.
To be honest, flashing on the Incredible is so easy you can try them all out for yourself to see which ROM satisfies YOUR needs. As long as you stick with ROMS towards the top of the Developement forum (shows many people are using them) you will be fine. Read the threads for serious bugs that are reported that may sway you from using a rom.
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k, i am close, i's just trhat i talked to a freind who put cm7 or a rom on his droid 1, and he said he had to reset it.
i guess i am just afraid of bricking the phone, booted cm7 the last time throuh rom manager, and it kept botting in bootloop, well, i got the rom back, but, i don't want to go through that again.

POQbum said:
To check your radio go to
Settings > About Phone > Baseband Version
I'll have to give you fair warning that the Sense GB's are a drainer on performance and battery - I would first suggest you try out SkyRaider (http://rootzwiki.com/showthread.php?1314-ROM-SkyRaider-Sense-4.2-UPDATED-6-28-11)
This is Froyo but it's sense and very stable, smooth, quick, and great battery life. I used it for a long while before I made the switch to CM7.
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okay, the thing is, is there really that much of a noticable difference bewteen 2.2 and 2.3? i already tested out flash and it works flawlessly o this default dinc (after i cleared the bloatware out, THANKS TITANIUM BACKUP!) i'm not going to use blockbuster, or netflix (as much as people like that, i don't watch movies on a 3 1/2 scren.

okay, i may just try oput skyraider to start with, like i said i'm new to flashing.

Kiboe said:
okay, i may just try oput skyraider to start with, like i said i'm new to flashing.
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I like Nils Business Gingersense 3d-2.3 for a Sense rom. It is stable, quick and battery life is good. I use Conaps DualRom x2 so I'm able to load CM7, OMFGB, Evervolv and Miui (all Aosp roms) also. They are all very stable, quick and very good battery life using Chad's incredikernel on all except OMFGB on which I use invisiblek kernel.
I think in the end, it is mostly a matter of personal preference.

Kiboe said:
why are you bashing?, i asked a question about roms, not for people to bash stuff.
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Holy Sh#t! Are you for real??? All I was doing was giving you an honest impression of my personal experience with a gingerbread Sense ROM built by one of the most experienced devs on the dInc. I used a LOT of ROM's on that phone. The absolute fastest Sense experience you will find is Incredibly Re-Engineered 2.3.2 using Ziggy's BFS 4/10 overclocked to 1.153GHz, smartass gov. setCPU to sleep at 245. The better way to do it would be to use the sysfs interface with a script to undervolt it more, set the smartass to be more conservative, and overclock it. If the smartass is tweaked correctly, the thing will do most of it's work around 768MHz or less, but will still have the overhead to ramp up to 1.153GHz if the load demands. I've been looking at all the GB kernels available and the sysfs on them isn't set up to do all that I've described on any of them. That's not to say they're not very well appointed kernels. They are, to the point I'm jealous. The TB has 2 GB Sense kernels. And the second one is based off the tree of the first.
My Tbolt took a mean hit in performance moving from froyo to GB. It's muscular enough hardware that it makes little impact on user experience. I put the same ROM ported for the dInc on the dInc and it was simply painful to watch. Aside from full Sense with Sense 3.0 elements, that ROM was stripped to the bone. That's why I asked if you really need GB. If you don't, there's far faster stuff out there in the land of Froyo. I run GB on the dInc now, and it's just as stupid-fast as the Tbolt, but it's AOSP. In fact, it would probably out-score my Bolt on benchmarks.
I like my Sense too. My dInc runs AOSP because that's what the gf likes. It'll probably go back to Sense when I give it to my wife. It's nice being able to get some AOSP experience now, since I don't have to live with the thing. Sorry if my opinion of my experience with GB Sense made it look like I was hating on the dInc. I'm not. You should have seen a lot of the first GB builds for the Bolt. You'd be lucky if the thing even booted. And they crawled along like sloths on opium. Maybe when some more developed GB leaks come along, it will work like it should. It's not there yet. Go try some and let me know. I'd love to think I'm wrong.

Optimized shift is my favorite just wish it had 2.1 lockscreen.. pure speed is fast just the lockscreen call bug irritated me... I'm on omfgb and have had a fast and stable experience.. using incredikernel with fast charge.. sense is nice but way too laggy for me.. guess I'm just picky..
Once a fast stable 3.0 sense rom comes out I'll probably switch to it... I try every rom I think is good but usually sense lets me down..
Well that's my 2¢…
Btw dude wasn't bashing he was telling you his experience... NOT everyone on here are a$$ holes lol
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Kiboe said:
okay, i may just try oput skyraider to start with, like i said i'm new to flashing.
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That's a good one to start out with.
CM7 is nice but some people just prefer Sense.
I'd suggest that you stay away from ROM manager just because it can be buggy often.
Really not too big of changes from 2.2 to 2.3
Most notable is the over-scroll effect and they put in some security patches.
Eventually I'm sure you'll want to try out Sense 3.0- but just giving out my opinion in that it doesn't run too great on the INC compared to other ROM's. Bunches of people use it all the time and love it, so who knows, it may be for you. It's what's so great about android.
@loonatik78 / Kiboe
The problem isn't so much the fact that it's GB, it's because Sense GB adds on a whole lotta more bloat to your phone. Our phones just weren't designed to handle the newer Sense versions, and although you can flash it and you can use it as a daily you won't get the best performance or battery out of your phone.
DEV's are making this situation better with each new release but I think you get what I'm saying.
Also know that if you update to GB on AOSP you will lose your 720p video recording- not important to most people but if it is to you then you should clear away.
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Btw dude wasn't bashing he was telling you his experience... NOT everyone on here are a$$ holes lol
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I think OP was still mad at him for his other 10 posts of pure bashing and douche-baggery that he made in a couple other threads.

yep, just flashed skyraider and...so far i love it, i just have the itch to flash over to gingersense due to gb, but like you said, i may hold off on that for a while.

"@loonatik78 / Kiboe The problem isn't so much the fact that it's GB, it's because Sense GB adds on a whole lotta more bloat to your phone. Our phones just weren't designed to handle the newer Sense versions, and although you can flash it and you can use it as a daily you won't get the best performance or battery out of your phone."
That really is the exact point I was trying to make. Sorry if my opinion of the dInc, based on experiences just like this, bothers some folks. I really am. For the record I got quite caustic in 2 other threads concerning "what's next" and "dInc verses bolt". If I didn't have a really good experience with the dInc, I wouldn't have got a dInc2 and a Tbolt. Though the basic specs look quite similar for all 3, the little details make the big difference. For example, the Tbolt and dInc2 use the same chip. It's a snapdragon, but fabbed on a smaller process. It's got more on-die cache and RAM. They use more efficient radios. They both use a more advanced GPU.
Maybe gingerbread sense ROMs will get more efficient. That would be nice. But that isn't reality today. I doubt that will ever be reality regarding Sense 3.0 ROMs. They ask a lot from hardware that phone hasn't got. Therefore, I call the Tbolt and dInc2 better and what's next. It's just facts. Nothing people should be getting worked up over. I'll try to disagree a bit more diplomaticly in the future.

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"@loonatik78 / Kiboe The problem isn't so much the fact that it's GB, it's because Sense GB adds on a whole lotta more bloat to your phone. Our phones just weren't designed to handle the newer Sense versions, and although you can flash it and you can use it as a daily you won't get the best performance or battery out of your phone."
That really is the exact point I was trying to make. Sorry if my opinion of the dInc, based on experiences just like this, bothers some folks. I really am. For the record I got quite caustic in 2 other threads concerning "what's next" and "dInc verses bolt". If I didn't have a really good experience with the dInc, I wouldn't have got a dInc2 and a Tbolt. Though the basic specs look quite similar for all 3, the little details make the big difference. For example, the Tbolt and dInc2 use the same chip. It's a snapdragon, but fabbed on a smaller process. It's got more on-die cache and RAM. They use more efficient radios. They both use a more advanced GPU.
Maybe gingerbread sense ROMs will get more efficient. That would be nice. But that isn't reality today. I doubt that will ever be reality regarding Sense 3.0 ROMs. They ask a lot from hardware that phone hasn't got. Therefore, I call the Tbolt and dInc2 better and what's next. It's just facts. Nothing people should be getting worked up over. I'll try to disagree a bit more diplomaticly in the future.
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It's more the way you argue for them than the fact that they are. Everyone knows those are newer phones with better upgraded hardware, but compared with the evolution of Android- they aren't that big of a step from INC even though they are still a step up. 4G is nice but a very small percentage of people have that, and when they leave that area it's gone.
idk why this has to be my 3rd time telling you this *facepalm*

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It's more the way you argue for them than the fact that they are. Everyone knows those are newer phones with better upgraded hardware, but compared with the evolution of Android- they aren't that big of a step from INC even though they are still a step up. 4G is nice but a very small percentage of people have that, and when they leave that area it's gone.
idk why this has to be my 3rd time telling you this *facepalm*
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I guess I'm just not seeing that a small percentage are LTE covered. I can drive 100 miles many places with LTE coverage. Most of a drive from Detroit, MI to Cincinnati, OH is covered with LTE. I can drive from Cocoa to Tampa with LTE the whole way. Fostoria, OH has it. Who's even heard of Fostoria, OH? I WISH this thing had a display like the dInc2. It doesn't. It kinda sucks actually. What comes after this will be a fairly marginal, incremental improvement as well. Dual core? That's not gonna be 2 big, beefy Scorpion cores like what they're using now. The primary purpose of dual cores is power consumption. Each will use less cache and resources. Together they should perform about as well as a Tbolt Scorpion clocked up around 1.91GHz (Very possible, believe it or not) and use much less power. The really cool thing about the dInc is it was so powerful there was just about nothing it couldn't do given the resources outside of the device. Everything else had to catch up to what it could do. It STILL makes the iPhone4 look dated! That's a HUGE compliment. But, now devices will have to catch up to what LTE can do. It's not just faster. You can do things with the phone that were impossible before, simply because the speed wasn't there. That's made my user experience noticeably better. Other people see it too when they ask you to use your phone for something because it's just too slow on their 3G device. That's my opinion. It's been more than marginal improvement for me and a few of my friends, even if the actual hardware isn't radically improved. Ya'll can take it for what it's worth, go try one out, tell me to **** off, whatever. You're gonna be in the same boat as me eventually.

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I guess I'm just not seeing that a small percentage are LTE covered. I can drive 100 miles many places with LTE coverage. Most of a drive from Detroit, MI to Cincinnati, OH is covered with LTE. I can drive from Cocoa to Tampa with LTE the whole way. Fostoria, OH has it. Who's even heard of Fostoria, OH? I WISH this thing had a display like the dInc2. It doesn't. It kinda sucks actually. What comes after this will be a fairly marginal, incremental improvement as well. Dual core? That's not gonna be 2 big, beefy Scorpion cores like what they're using now. The primary purpose of dual cores is power consumption. Each will use less cache and resources. Together they should perform about as well as a Tbolt Scorpion clocked up around 1.91GHz (Very possible, believe it or not) and use much less power. The really cool thing about the dInc is it was so powerful there was just about nothing it couldn't do given the resources outside of the device. Everything else had to catch up to what it could do. It STILL makes the iPhone4 look dated! That's a HUGE compliment. But, now devices will have to catch up to what LTE can do. It's not just faster. You can do things with the phone that were impossible before, simply because the speed wasn't there. That's made my user experience noticeably better. Other people see it too when they ask you to use your phone for something because it's just too slow on their 3G device. That's my opinion. It's been more than marginal improvement for me and a few of my friends, even if the actual hardware isn't radically improved. Ya'll can take it for what it's worth, go try one out, tell me to **** off, whatever. You're gonna be in the same boat as me eventually.
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Well there's still no 4G in VA at all so it's got a ways to go before it's considered coverageable.
The CPU speed was what I was trying to say to you before, it takes a lot of power to rev the CPU faster- and with dual cores they can both run slower yet outperform a beefier CPU clocked at faster rates. That's really the upgrade I'm waiting for, a good phone with dual core with root available.
this is going horribly offtopic.
I think it's pretty amazing how there really are no mods here.
It's like they all just abandoned.

Looking for a stable/fully featured ROM.

Hi everyone, my Incredible 2 just arrived and I'm about ready to root it and flash a ROM. I first wanted to try the CM7 stable build because they're "official" developers in my opinion, but I read some posts and there seems to be some issues with various small things. I looked at the nightlies and those still seem to have issues as well. Then I looked over here at the CM7Kangs, but something seems to tell me that CM isn't completely stable in itself. Whether it does or doesn't have Sense, etc. I'm just interested in a new ROM that is stable and fully functional (cameras work, GPS works, etc). The main reason for flashing a new ROM is because I don't want all the bloatware that comes with this thing, and even if it isn't cutting edge, I'm sure it can be faster than stock. Any suggestions guys?
EDIT: I hear Skyraider Zeus/MIUI are good. I found Skyraider Zeus 1.3 on the internet, but what versions of MIUI are stable? I hear this ROM has good reviews too

http://roms.miui.us/ 1.12.9 is stable an totally functional works good with areoevans .7 bfs kernel
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http://www.teambamf.net/f37/[rom][gb]-skyraider-zeus-1-3-inc2-[update-11-22-2011]-2725/
This is skyraiders link which is a top notch sense rom.

Skyraider's roms are top notch. All the current cm7 kangs work without flaws. Miui12.9 is awesome. Also look into condemned sense rom, any of nits work, alot of people are running mikrunny 3.5
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Thanks! Just wondering, is Skyraider Zeus overclockable? I looked at the post and the only kernel it mentions is the "HTC OTA update". IIRC, you need a special kernel to OC, don't you?
Also, my question above is the same for the MIUI 1.12.9 ROM. Can it be OC'd? is it fully stable on the non-aeroevan kernel?

Yes you can us dres kernel found in development forum for skyraiders and miui I recommend using areovans kernel due to stock kernel can cause a few issues (low in call volume and for some data is not reliable)
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another vote for SkyRaider Zeus. if you want a ROM you can set and forget, this is it. everything works, except for Verizon's wifi tether in the "quick launch", but that's it. it's just as reliable as stock or better, has tons of features and extras built in. a lot of thought, and time went into this, it is truly a complete Sense ROM.
never tried AOSP ROMs so i can't comment.
good luck in your search. at least try Zeus, you won't be disappointed.

I personally haven't tried miui so I wont comment on that. There are plenty of great roms out there. I am currently using the latest cm7 nightly as my DD (#134 I think?) with excellent results! I cant remember seeing any issues since i flashed it. I am going on nearly a month with zero issues. Before this rom I tried out New To Root's Incredible 2 HD RLS v1.1 which was also a flawless rom from my experience. I had no luck with the RC releases of cm7 but I know of others who love them.
I like to run sense from time to time but I always go back to aosp for the customization possibilities it offers.
In the end, none of us can tell you what the best rom for you is. I can say that in general if you want a rom that you can flash and forget about it you will probably want to go with a rom that has been around for a while, preferably one that is in RC or Final status.
My advice is to try a few so you can see whether you like miui, aosp, or sence. Once you figure that out then just try a few of that type to find one that suits you.
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Well I've never even used a smartphone before other than when occasionally using my brother's iPhone 4, so the interface won't be a big deal. I'll adapt and enjoy whatever I end up using. I just want to use something that's stable (in the sense that it's fully featured and nothing randomly messes up) and fast. Skyraider Zeus and the various CM7 kangs seem to accomplish this. I'll have to think harder on which one i want to use. The CM7 kang i'm looked at is by Condemned Soul. I can't really post in that forum yet, so I'm using this thread as a way to get this type of information.
The CM7 kang that he made is already able to OC I believe because of the CM kernel...so that's a plus because I'd really just want to flash the phone and enjoy using it. I like tinkering with stuff, but I don't want to constantly worry about flashing/unflashing and causing instability. I need this phone to last until the next upgrade. The thing is, "Sense" seems really interesting. People say it looks nice and has lots of features, but I've never really experienced these features anyway, so maybe I should go with CM7.

I always hear people talking about how stable MIUI is, but that has not been my experience with MIUI at all. I have tried MIUI three or four times on a few different android devices each time following the install instructions exactly. Wiped factory reset, dalvik, permissions battery stats etc. all the default ROM install stuff.
Each time MIUI boots up fine and works well for about 3 hours and then randomly reboots and glitches forcing me come back to the stable CM7 version.
I really want to like MIUI, but my experiences seem to be very different than most people.

Interestingly enough, when I googled the word "issues" on Cyanogenmod's stable forum, they mentioned stuff about Skype having problems with audio that was fixed in the non-stable nightly #134. This is why I am wondering if CM7 is truly stable or not. I'm not sure how to track errors/issues, so I don't know what the nightlies have improved upon, and I definitely don't know what the kangs improve on/fix.

If you like tinkering with stuff I'd say you could go the CM or MIUI (AOSP) route. But this phone is not going to be as good as other phones that are running aosp. It was made to run sense.
Fully featured is also going to set you back, do you mean fully featured as in being able to use it as a world phone? GSM Capabilities?
If so you're going to have to run stock or close to stock.
Me personally, I like sense. MikRunny 1.01 here. Fast, stable and everything works. Except for GSM though.
cstone1991 had it right though, you have to run them to see which one you like best. Everyone is going to have their own opinions on which ROM runs best and again each phone is going to run ROMS differently as well.
For ROM's you're going to basically go through different bases like this.
AOSP ROM's like CM7, MIUI
Sense 2.1 ROM's like Andybones stock or skyraider zeus
Sense 3.0 ROM's like Virtuous
Sense 3.5 ROM's like MikRunny
Each base has different features, different feel. You'll also have the ability to theme them differently as well.
Try the ones that interest you the most, run them for a few days each and see which one fits you the best.

jrizk07 said:
If you like tinkering with stuff I'd say you could go the CM or MIUI (AOSP) route. But this phone is not going to be as good as other phones that are running aosp. It was made to run sense.
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I like tinkering with stuff, but only to a point. I don't like to constantly have to "re-do" things that don't have to do with the tinkering process (IE: Flashing over and over). What makes the phone able to run "Sense" instead of AOSP? I'm not aware of the whole Sense vs AOSP bit. If I could get some solid info on why I should run Sense instead of AOSP, I'll run Skyraider Zeus most likely, etc.
Fully featured is also going to set you back, do you mean fully featured as in being able to use it as a world phone? GSM Capabilities?
If so you're going to have to run stock or close to stock.
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What I mean is that I don't need "extra" features or anything like that. I just want the phone to work the way it's supposed to....such as GPS and the camera(s) working. I don't want to have to sacrifice something I use often in order to gain speed. World capabilities aren't a big deal to me for sure. I don't know what "tethering" is so that whole bit isn't too important either.
Me personally, I like sense. MikRunny 1.01 here. Fast, stable and everything works. Except for GSM though.
cstone1991 had it right though, you have to run them to see which one you like best. Everyone is going to have their own opinions on which ROM runs best and again each phone is going to run ROMS differently as well.
For ROM's you're going to basically go through different bases like this.
AOSP ROM's like CM7, MIUI
Sense 2.1 ROM's like Andybones stock or skyraider zeus
Sense 3.0 ROM's like Virtuous
Sense 3.5 ROM's like MikRunny
Each base has different features, different feel. You'll also have the ability to theme them differently as well.
Try the ones that interest you the most, run them for a few days each and see which one fits you the best.
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Thanks for this huge list. What's the difference between Sense 3.5 vs 3.0 vs 2.1? Yes, the obvious answer is that one is newer than the other. I heard Sense 3.5 has issues with the camera being upside down, etc. So I'd probably stick with the Sense that came with this phone (Sense 2.1 probably)

ma70ent said:
I like tinkering with stuff, but only to a point. I don't like to constantly have to "re-do" things that don't have to do with the tinkering process (IE: Flashing over and over). What makes the phone able to run "Sense" instead of AOSP? I'm not aware of the whole Sense vs AOSP bit. If I could get some solid info on why I should run Sense instead of AOSP, I'll run Skyraider Zeus most likely, etc.
The drivers are mostly what's different. Because HTC uses sense originally, Sense is going to be what works the best. It's not that it can't run AOSP but that sense is going to run without problems because that's what it was made to run.
What I mean is that I don't need "extra" features or anything like that. I just want the phone to work the way it's supposed to....such as GPS and the camera(s) working. I don't want to have to sacrifice something I use often in order to gain speed. World capabilities aren't a big deal to me for sure. I don't know what "tethering" is so that whole bit isn't too important either.
All the features work in most ROM's like that. Some ROM's (Mostly AOSP) have issues where the camera is stretched (front facing cam on miui). You're not really losing anything on other ROM's it's just that they work differently.
Thanks for this huge list. What's the difference between Sense 3.5 vs 3.0 vs 2.1? Yes, the obvious answer is that one is newer than the other. I heard Sense 3.5 has issues with the camera being upside down, etc. So I'd probably stick with the Sense that came with this phone (Sense 2.1 probably)
Sense 2.1 has the older stuff, it's probably going to be the fastest out of the rest of them because it has the least amount of stuff in it. This is what comes on the phone stock and what Skyraider runs.
Sense 3.0 incorporated new features like a new lock screen, new weather app, weather animations, sounds, display features, dial pad, messaging. It's running more stuff so in order to run correctly you would have to use a rom that's optimized.
Sense 3.5 is the newest and also has different features but it's very close to 3.0. Just about everything is the same that you can see but there are differences behind the scenes. Also there are no camera issues unless someone puts out a ROM that was quickly thrown together.
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I say you skip 3.0 altogether and run either 2.1 or 3.5. Anything is better than stock with all the bloat so try skyraider or andybonesstock.
If you wanna try 3.5 go with MikRunny 1.01 and in the display turn off the 3d widget features. See how that runs on your phone, It's flawless on mine, I get no lag but again different phones run differently.

Alright I've decided to go with Skyraider Zeus thanks to reading all of this. Thanks for all of the help. I don't plan on flashing a new kernel onto Skyraider Zeus, so whether the stock SZ kernel can OC or not doesn't matter to me.

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Alright I've decided to go with Skyraider Zeus thanks to reading all of this. Thanks for all of the help. I don't plan on flashing a new kernel onto Skyraider Zeus, so whether the stock SZ kernel can OC or not doesn't matter to me.
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I don't think you will need to over clock. I haven't needed to on this phone. I have tested it and all it did for me was reduce battery life and improve benchmark scores. I haven't been able to tell a difference in actual usage whether I run at 1ghz or 1.8ghz so I opt for better battery life. The only rom that I benefitted from overclocking on was one of the really early ICS builds.
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To all you who responded and to the OP - thanks!
This thread has been very helpful, I just got my Inc 2 last week and looking forward to trying out some new ROMS.
I've read that the stock kernel changed with the OTA updates (I'm on 2.3.4)
Does that limit which of the ROMs I can run?
Are there better ROM managers than others when it comes to this phone and the ROMs available for it?
Thanks.
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Rickinsav said:
To all you who responded and to the OP - thanks!
This thread has been very helpful, I just got my Inc 2 last week and looking forward to trying out some new ROMS.
I've read that the stock kernel changed with the OTA updates (I'm on 2.3.4)
Does that limit which of the ROMs I can run?
Are there better ROM managers than others when it comes to this phone and the ROMs available for it?
Thanks.
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The fact that you're on 2.3.4 means you need to use a downgrade tool and go down to 2.3.3. Then you'll use software called "Revolutionary" to get root, etc. If you search for "nat3mills" on youtube, and look under his videos for incredible 2 stuff, he has step by step tutorials on how to do all of this. That's what I'm going to do. Hopefully XDA doesn't penalize me for referencing this youtube user. Good luck!
EDIT: Also I'd like to ask everyone, since you feel there is no point in overclocking, is there a way to undervolt with any of these ROMs? Specifically SkyRaider Zeus/CM7 (asking because these seem to be the two common choices for people, and I figured this thread could now be used as a good reference) My logic behind undervolting is that if you can overclock it drastically on stock voltage (which is what I assume SRZ and CM7 are on) then you can probably keep it at stock clocks and undervolt it for better battery life/temperatures.
EDIT #2: Ok I was just looking in CondemnedSoul's CM7Kang thread. Apparently there is an app called Incredicontrol that let's you mess with voltages. Just to make sure, CM7 in itself only has the ability to control clock speeds (under/overclock) and not voltages, right? This means that Incredicontrol is necessary to mess with voltages?

from my understanding; if you OC and UV you gain nothing, if you UC and UV you conserve battery, if you OC and OV you make your device faster but perhaps introduce instability.
i've been reading tons of threads, clock speeds and volting included, and i have made the decision to not O/UC nor O/UV because my phone works great as it is and i do not care about benchmarks and my battery life is acceptable as it is.
if you really want to know more, set aside some time (hours) to search and read thread after thread on these topics and make your own educated decision based on the debates other members have participated in.

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from my understanding; if you OC and UV you gain nothing, if you UC and UV you conserve battery, if you OC and OV you make your device faster but perhaps introduce instability.
i've been reading tons of threads, clock speeds and volting included, and i have made the decision to not O/UC nor O/UV because my phone works great as it is and i do not care about benchmarks and my battery life is acceptable as it is.
if you really want to know more, set aside some time (hours) to search and read thread after thread on these topics and make your own educated decision based on the debates other members have participated in.
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Uhhh, you're looking at things the wrong way completely. Having less voltage whether something is overclocked or underclocked is ALWAYS better. If you increase the clock speed and have the voltage less than stock, it's a complete WIN WIN situation unless it introduces instability, but this is something you test for. Some people Overvolt to Overclock even further, but increasing voltage is not ALWAYS necessary. Keeping speeds at stock, but UNDERVOLTING helps battery life. Finally, overclocking but keeping stock voltage is the best combination for actual speed. Increasing voltage reduces battery life much more than simply increasing clockspeed.
This is how things work for desktops, and I'm sure it applies to everything else, including phones.

ma70ent said:
Uhhh, you're looking at things the wrong way completely. Having less voltage whether something is overclocked or underclocked is ALWAYS better. If you increase the clock speed and have the voltage less than stock, it's a complete WIN WIN situation unless it introduces instability, but this is something you test for. Some people Overvolt to Overclock even further, but increasing voltage is not ALWAYS necessary. Keeping speeds at stock, but UNDERVOLTING helps battery life. Finally, overclocking but keeping stock voltage is the best combination for actual speed. Increasing voltage reduces battery life much more than simply increasing clockspeed.
This is how things work for desktops, and I'm sure it applies to everything else, including phones.
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Not necessarily...desktops and laptops and phones (hardware in particular) is built to run within certain voltage limits. Undervolting CAN help but not in all situations, and especially when running at max-min frequency can cause major instability in a speed-step cycle.
It is usually safe to undervolt a little bit with most hardware - but radios in general can be affected by voltage. Test all hardware with stress testing to ensure it is safe FOR YOUR PARTICULAR PHONE.
Background : MS in Computer Science (Heavy Unix Background)
To keep the thread on track - this phone was meant to run with Sense 2.1 - if you sync multiple email accounts or run many apps (buggy or not) you should probably stick with Sense 2.1. If you arent a demanding mobile phone user try anything else. I wish the AOSP builds were more compatible with HTC - and if AOSP isnt integrated into any HTC phones in the future I may switch to another manufacturer.

[Q] Extended batteries!

Hello hello!
So, I've had my evo for ages, (ages in modern tech terms of phones evolving, not an actually long time by human means) and, long story short, got a new phone, don't have the new phone, back on the evo.
I have the twin turbo GTR ROM and the battery life on my phone sucked. It wasn't the ROM, just letting you know that's what I have if it matters for this question!
So, I decided upon getting an extended battery. (I think 3500 or 4500 mAh, I can check when I get home, the case is fairly stuck on right now) and....I can't figure this thing out. The guide said that the phone will charge to 1,500, say 100%, but not truly be full, so you will need to leave it plugged in.....So I did, and upon unplugging it.....dropped, 99, 98, 97, all within about 10 minutes (normal for the evo, not for this new battery I would assume).
So, how do I make this work? What's the trick? I assume I can actually change the battery....settings(?) in the phone. I remember while in recovery seeing something about resetting the battery settings, and I vaguely remember something about DO NOT TOUCH THAT EVER UNLESS YOU KNOW WHY. Would now be a good time?
TL;DR; New extended battery, tips to get the most use of it? Also, since I am rooted and recoveried, what tricks can I do to make it properly read the new battery and it's larger mAh size.
****If you have a good ROM that you must recommend, or kernal, I am okay with that. I have no love for anything on my phone currently, kernel. rom, recovery, I'll replace it if you guys have good suggestions.
Thank you very much in advance!

First off, you want an SBC kernel on your ROM. Mason G if you have gingerbread, which you do, or Mason I if you're on ICS. Mazwoz's if you choose JB. Flash the appropriate kernel, charge the battery. Leave it on the charger for an extra hour for the hell of it and use it normally and let it drain fully. Recharge to full and it should calibrate. If not, there are plenty of battery calibration apps in the market.
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Awesome thank you! Also, if you or anyone knows, when i was using my evo last, they just started getting ics on it. I remember 4g was broken, and it seems now with the ics and JB roms, it's the same story. Are they planning on finding fix, or is it known that 4g will mst likely only work on GB? Either way I'll reflash my stuff, make sure I have the right stuff, charge, drain, and see how that goes. I would love to use JB simply to see if project butter helps my phone. The only phones I've used it on are at least 2-6x more powerful than my evo, so I can't tell how much project butter is helping, versus the few extra Ghz and cores.
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4G and FFC will likely never work. This device has been losing life at a steady rate. As far as JB, there are some good choices. With the proper set up and tweaking, it can become a daily. Well supported JB ROMs are evervolv, Mazwoz's JB, black bean AOKP, Baked AOKP, RemICS JB, and a couple others. All worth a try.
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4G and FFC will likely never work. This device has been losing life at a steady rate. As far as JB, there are some good choices. With the proper set up and tweaking, it can become a daily. Well supported JB ROMs are evervolv, Mazwoz's JB, black bean AOKP, Baked AOKP, RemICS JB, and a couple others. All worth a try.
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Yeahhhh. That's why I switched to my S2 but long story short, here I am again with my Evo.
Have you used the JB ROMs? Does the project butter make it better than a GB ROM that is tweaked for speed?
I think tomorrow at work I may spend the day trying new ROMs so I may just see for myself, but input would be appreciated! Also, thank you for all the help so far

iytrix said:
Yeahhhh. That's why I switched to my S2 but long story short, here I am again with my Evo.
Have you used the JB ROMs? Does the project butter make it better than a GB ROM that is tweaked for speed?
I think tomorrow at work I may spend the day trying new ROMs so I may just see for myself, but input would be appreciated! Also, thank you for all the help so far
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I've tried most all JB ROMs. I even developed one. They run well but still not as well as original gingerbread. The 2.3.5 kind. Not the CM7 kind. Never really liked it. Personal opinion though. If you want a perfect Gingerbread ROM, check of Decks ReLoaded or some of MBQsniper's work. As for jellybean, try the ones I listed. You'll find something you like, guaranteed.
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I have used all the jb ROMs out there. They are usable if you over look the small things. No FFC, GPS, a few glitches in video. Miui is not good yet. But most all builds before 4.2 are very good and 4.2 will be there before long.
If you want a good sense with all bells and whistles sense 3.5 works. Only glitch is htcfacebook.apk but FFC GPS BT everything works. On 3500 battery 1 get 24 hr heavy use 12 hrs streaming videos. Normal use 4 days and minimal use up to 8 days. Same goes for the sense 1.0 ROMs. For me I have not had much luck with 3.0 sense.
I have flashed almost everything out over the past 2 years I have had an evo.
As far as special tricks for extended battery there recall are none. Just plug it in and use it.
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I have seen a few people ask this question- (will project butter help my phone?) Well project butter isn't actually a thing, it isn't an app or a system, its more of an idea. And the idea is to make the system run as smooth as butter. You can't dig through your system and find Google.projectbutter.apk lol. It is optimizations and implications for ease of use within the new phones coming out, and likely what they implement won't help on our evos because of our aging out of date hardware.
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brianvillage said:
I have seen a few people ask this question- (will project butter help my phone?) Well project butter isn't actually a thing, it isn't an app or a system, its more of an idea. And the idea is to make the system run as smooth as butter. You can't dig through your system and find Google.projectbutter.apk lol. It is optimizations and implications for ease of use within the new phones coming out, and likely what they implement won't help on our evos because of our aging out of date hardware.
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Are you sure? I know it isn't one thing, but I very clearly remember reading that google did some sneaky tricks to get things running more smoothly, but I felt like it had to do with just basically making the hardware work more effeciently than it currently was.
"How is all of this done you might ask, well Google have used a variety of methods to accomplish it, ranging from something called “vsync timing” (which is making sure there's a consistent frame rate across all screen drawings and animations) and triple buffering, which helps the over frame rates appear a lot better. There's also a nifty system that tries to predict where you’ll go next on your device and help you get there quicker; awesome. Project Butter allows smartphones to take a bit more power from their processors and allows you to step down on accelerate right when it’s needed. "
I read stuff basically like that. I suppose the more correct question would be, will putting a jelly bean OS on my phone make it run smoother than my current GB ROM. I usually understand that the newer ROMs on older phones tend to mean more lag and whatnot, but if the project butter tweaks make it run BETTER than the older ROMs, I may want to use it.
However, I am getting my S2 back tomorrow! That will have JB on it once it's back in my hands, and that thing was silky smooth with ICS so I'm not worried.
As a general question though, have people noticed differences from ICS to JB for speed, responsiveness, and smoothness?