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Sprint Upgrading 3G Coverage Area To EvDO Rev B October 7th? (ET4G & 3VO Compatible)

Sprint Upgrading 3G Coverage Area To EvDO Rev B October 7th? (ET4G & 3VO Compatible)
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We just got tips from two separate sources, so lets roll with this one. Sprints network vision press conference is scheduled for October 7th of this year, where they are reportedly going to discuss their 4G network plans going forward. What has not been rumored yet is any updates and future upgrades to their existing 3G network. We just learned from our two separate sources that Sprint plans on upgrading their existing EvDO Rev A 3G network to Rev B, enabling much faster speeds on both the up and down link. We were told to expect up to 9Mbps down and 2Mbps up, enabling them to surpass every other 3G network in the US including the “4G” networks T-Mobile and ATT like to say they have. Not all current phones support EVDO Rev B, but we do know at a minimum the Evo 3D and Epic Touch 4G both in fact have Rev B compatible chips out of the box. Lets hope this one pan’s out.
UPDATE: After receiving a few emails, we just wanted to stress something. Take all of this as rumor for now until official. You should always do that! Also we stated the Evo 3D and Epic Touch 4G will work if this all pans out, but its absolutely possible many other phones will. We only can confirm those two.
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Source: UPDATE: Sprint Upgrading Existing 3G Coverage Area To EvDO Rev B October 7th? – GizmoFusion

younggangsta_s said:
Not all current phones support EVDO Rev B, but we do know at a minimum the Evo 3D and Epic Touch 4G both in fact have Rev B compatible chips out of the box. Lets hope this one pan’s out.]
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[citation needed]
inb4 ****storm

daneurysm said:
[citation needed]
inb4 ****storm
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inb4 ****storm+1 LMFAO!!!
Maybe if everyone in that other thread contacts gizmo they will cite their source.

daneurysm said:
[citation needed]
inb4 ****storm
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You took the workds right out of my mouth.
Good one sir, good one.

This is old
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greengoldmello said:
This is old
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To everyone except Samsung?

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Man I hope its true for the epic touch cause it feels like the sprint network is getting worse by the day.
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This was the article, followed by the iFixit tear down that started all this crap in the first place. I never got an email back from Bryan though. Shocker I know.

Yeah sprints network is getting worse by the day. I used to get 1 megs Down on 3g a year ago when I first got my epic. Now on going about 300-400 kbps on my original epic and my epic touch. It seems so slow.
The Evo3D Killer!!!

Seems like more and more people near you have sprint now lol
Samsung Galaxy S Dos indeed

musclehead84 said:
Yeah sprints network is getting worse by the day. I used to get 1 megs Down on 3g a year ago when I first got my epic. Now on going about 300-400 kbps on my original epic and my epic touch. It seems so slow.
The Evo3D Killer!!!
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I bet your neighbor is using tethering and downloading torrents just to see how much data he can use in a month.

This could very well be possible. I have heard that this is actually why Epic 4G Touch users have been suffering from the dropped voice/data, because Sprint has begun updating their towers. I heard this I believe it was on the Android Central forums by someone from Sprint. I'm too lazy to try to find it but it was a topic regarding the random radio drops on the E4GT. I thought the rep was referring to LTE upgrades but it might also be Rev B. I know they are killing off IDEN next year so who knows.. Sprint doesn't even know what they are doing half of the time.

Overstew said:
I bet your neighbor is using tethering and downloading torrents just to see how much data he can use in a month.
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Nerdy ass xda members ****ing up the network doing that dumb ****, smh
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My data usage sucks during the day. Just more people on the network LOL.
3AM data speeds (home) are about 800-1000Kb/sec
3PM data speeds (home) are about 90-240Kb/sec
4AM data speeds (at work / airport) are abut 800-1100Kb
2PM data speeds (at work / airport) are still about 500-900kb)
Where I live at home there are about 200 buildings all like 20+ floors in probably a mile radius. Wifi channels are cramped so I tend to run my wifi routers at the end of the channel spectrum since most people by default are killing channel 6.
It's really a tower to population issue.

Sprint's giving Lightsquared 30 more days for FCC approval

http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/02/sprint-gives-lightsquared-an-extra-30-days-to-gain-fcc-approval/
Doesn't seem like Sprint can catch a break related to "4g" eh?
Clear issues, now Lightsquared.

Any insight on why light squared isn't able to garner FCC approval.
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FCC approval will never come due GPS conflict Its a con game sprints been playing on their customers for some time.

sling said:
FCC approval was never going to come due GPS conflict Its a con game both have been playing for some time.
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Hmmmm thanks for the input , time to research.
Edit interesting article
http://www.insidegnss.com/node/2839
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The thing is everyone points a finger at light squared but its not their fault. The real problem is that gps is intruding on lightsquareds spectrum and not the other way around. The fcc and the gps makers want lightsquared to foot the bill for a problem they both have created. Its not fair and the fcc needs to step up take ownership and say sorry we fell asleep at the wheel and make the gps makers foot the bill and give them a timeline of when it needs to be done.

The real story is Falcone bought some property cheap that he thought he could build on, then when he went to build, found there were long-time squatters. He kind of knew about them when he bought the property but thought he could kick them off the land since they weren't supposed to be there, but the squatters were more organized than he thought. Also the other property owners around there like charging higher rents and Falcone was planning on charging lower rents, so those property owners got on the side of the squatters.
This is not taking sides who is right or wrong, just explaining the situation.

flight01 said:
The thing is everyone points a finger at light squared but its not their fault. The real problem is that gps is intruding on lightsquareds spectrum and not the other way around. The fcc and the gps makers want lightsquared to foot the bill for a problem they both have created. Its not fair and the fcc needs to step up take ownership and say sorry we fell asleep at the wheel and make the gps makers foot the bill and give them a timeline of when it needs to be done.
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I agree 100% lightSquared not at fault but this outcome was expected.
Sprint played it down no big deal throwing LTE 2012 promises.

sling said:
I agree 100% lightSquared not at fault but this outcome was expected.
Sprint played it down no big deal throwing LTE 2012 promises to customers.
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Either way Sprint will be bringing LTE to customers.
Losing LightSquared will just slow it down.

Losing LightSquared affects how much LTE capacity Sprint will have available.
It won't affect Sprint's LTE deployment schedule because Sprint was the one providing the towers for LightSquared, not the other way around.

mattykinsx said:
Either way Sprint will be bringing LTE to customers.
Losing LightSquared will just slow it down.
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Sounds great what spectrum will their LTE be running on?

sling said:
Sounds great what spectrum will their LTE be running on?
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Sprint has spectrum in 800 from Nextel and their own 1900 spectrum and finally whatever they can get Clear to convert on 2500.
800 doesn't really have enough for high-bandwidth apps, but they probably would use it to shift things around to make more room at 1900.

sling said:
Sounds great what spectrum will their LTE be running on?
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I was going to answer you...but... ^

mattykinsx said:
I was going to answer you...but... ^
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The answer to be expected but the problem is $$$$...the lack of it in Sprints pocket.
I guess we all can keep LTE dreaming with the final product even delayed more lol

newalker91 said:
Sprint has over $6 billion in matured stock and that value is increasing daily.
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What exactly is "matured" stock? Sprint's stock has been decreasing since the Nextel merger.

sfhub said:
What exactly is "matured" stock? Sprint's stock has been decreasing since the Nextel merger.
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There are very few stocks that haven't declined since that merger.
Way to go economy.

All D's fancy wurdz ... is we gettings 4ggzz lte eees soown?
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lte
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If I remember correctly, they had stated on their network vision page that they would be using the iDEN spectrum to roll out LTE.
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sprint was initially rolling it out on 1900 and moving it to 850 when they shut down nextel ..... but the first was 1900 .....they wont touch the 2500 **** ..... if you put lte on it ... it will be just as bad as wimax sprint wont do that they will try to keep the blame on wimax not the frequency

mattykinsx said:
There are very few stocks that haven't declined since that merger.
Way to go economy.
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Sprint is down 90% since the merger completed.
S&P 500 is virtually unchanged with runs up 20+% in between.
IMO there is a big difference between the performance of stocks "in general" and Sprint
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Epix4G said:
sprint was initially rolling it out on 1900 and moving it to 850 when they shut down nextel ..... but the first was 1900 .....they wont touch the 2500 **** ..... if you put lte on it ... it will be just as bad as wimax sprint wont do that they will try to keep the blame on wimax not the frequency
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There's nothing wrong with a tiered approach, using 2500 to offload data traffic for outdoor users and reserving your more appropriate lower frequencies for indoor use.
Clearwire issue is 2500 was the *only* spectrum they were using.

sfhub said:
Sprint is down 90% since the merger completed.
S&P 500 is virtually unchanged with runs up 20+% in between.
IMO there is a big difference between the performance of stocks "in general" and Sprint
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It wasn't meant to be taken absolutely literal.
Even Microsoft has only recently climbed back up to close to "unchanged" for the past 8 years.
That really shows how the past 8 years have been.
Anyway this is really neither here nor there.
Not relevant to the thread.

Sneak peek at Sprint's new LTE speeds (and WAYYY improved 3G speeds).

Here's one with dude testing newest LTE upgrade "somewhere" near Houston, or San Antonio, TX area:
http://goo.gl/G5a3U
And here's him testing upgraded 3g service in the same area:
http://goo.gl/FbDoj
I live right outside Houston, TX (one of the first "official" cities to be updated), and I wholly approve of these videos.
Looks like we won't have to wait too long.
Opinions?
Edit: "opinions":
(that is, other than opinions about that dude's "extracurricular activities"....) which would be both way too easy, and also not very cool.
Edit: This isn't where I first read about this, but it seems androidpolice has picked up the story: (may give a little more insight):
http://goo.gl/JSGSt

extracurricular? I don't get it...
But mmmmm...speed. that looks reaaalll nice.
Edit: and you can see "sprint pcs" listed as the ISP on speedtest.net's website, so looks pretty authentic.
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Lol youporn at 7:30
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Yeah, it's fast. But, then again, nobody is on it. Let's see the speeds when 2 million phones are on the network.

Those 3G speeds are past the theoretical max of EVDO RevA.
Is the upgrade and the device being used to test using something other than EVDO RevA?

sfhub said:
Those 3G speeds are past the theoretical max of EVDO RevA.
Is the upgrade and the device being used to test using something other than EVDO RevA?
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From reading about this on another site, it had to do with some new Huawei device that Sprint is testing for its new LTE installations.
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My 3G speeds have definitely improved. For the first time today I got 2.2mbps download. Well at least sprint is improving 3G speeds since there is no 4G in my area
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I wonder if it's using both 800mhz and 1900mhz at the same time to get those speeds.
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I'd really like to believe this, and the 4G LTE speeds are certainly feasible, but Sprint's (and Verizon's) 3G technology is EVDO Rev. A, which maxes out at 3.1Mbps and that 3G speed test video shows the speed being more than double that.
It's fishy.
Here are my 3G speeds right now:
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i call bs on that 3g speed

Have any of you even heard of the new network? Evdo rev b. Simultaneous voice and data. Almost twice the coverage from the same tower. Twice the speed.
I am extremely excited. This is the network I have been waiting for! Once its up and running it will pretty much poop on all networks.

SVDO is separate from Rev B. You can have SVDO even on Rev A. HTC Thunderbolt on Verizon already does that.
Rev B achieves the higher speed through bonding. May or may not yield a real-world improvement during daytime usage depending on your area and conditions. Nighttime usage would probably see a big improvement though.
Too bad our phones don't do Rev B.

The evo can do rev b. I thought the ns4g and epic touch were capable as well.

stkiswr said:
The evo can do rev b. I thought the ns4g and epic touch were capable as well.
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I don't believe any of the Samsungs (including Epic 4G Touch) can do Rev B because Samsung uses a separate module for the modem (QSC6085) which they haven't updated for a while. This module is common to many of their phones, including the Epic 4G Touch.
HTC tends to use whatever Qualcomm puts out in their current chipset rather than using a separate modem module, so that is why their phones support Rev B.
Now all this Rev B stuff being the explanation for the faster than Rev A 3g speeds is just theory. It is certainly a plausible explanation. The video being bogus is another plausible explanation.

stkiswr said:
The evo can do rev b. I thought the ns4g and epic touch were capable as well.
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Dont know about the NS4G but our phone the epic touch does not support EVDO Rev B.

thank y'all for correcting me. As I said I thought, but clearly am wrong. I am also under the impression the the speed is due to rev b as that is part of the network vision plans. I hope they post some concrete info because I would love 5mb on 3g. Better coverage. All positives yo me.

stkiswr said:
thank y'all for correcting me. As I said I thought, but clearly am wrong. I am also under the impression the the speed is due to rev b as that is part of the network vision plans. I hope they post some concrete info because I would love 5mb on 3g. Better coverage. All positives yo me.
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From a deployment perspective all the tower hardware should support Rev B, but the last time around when we had this discussion, all indications from Sprint were that they weren't deploying Rev B.
Do you have information now that they have officially said they are supporting/deploying Rev B?

You think the phones will have an LTE toggle or will it work like VZW and just turn on by default. (It seems to be more battery friendly than WiMax.) I don't know if it's because of the technology or what.

sfhub said:
From a deployment perspective all the tower hardware should support Rev B, but the last time around when we had this discussion, all indications from Sprint were that they weren't deploying Rev B.
Do you have information now that they have officially said they are supporting/deploying Rev B?
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Not anymore, there was a video of a sprint conference discussing the benefits but I can't find the link. If I come across more info I'll drop a link

Maybe Sprint just left Rev. B on the tower enabled during testing. It's possible that's why those speeds are coming up. The question is if Sprint is planning to do Rev. B?
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Anyone out there getting fed up with sprint horrible

We have the latest smart phones but cant use to its fulk capabilities because network is horrible anyone else getting ready to leave sprint it makes me mad that i have full bars and i cant not use web
Im on my SG3

Seeing as I just came from T mobile it is amazing to see how drastically different the networks are. I will tell you that the LTE is pretty amazing (I live in Kansas City) the few times I have been able to get it so it gives me some confidence that it will catch up pretty soon.

I used to have tmobile and it was pretty crappy im in chicago and i hope this network issue speeds up cuz its getting annoying
Im on my SG3

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You have a choice, just sayin.
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You knew this before you bought the SIII. Fortunately for me, I do live in one of the launch cities for their LTE. While it is still spotty where I live, I am seeing the 3G boost. I guess it's a matter of where you live. If the 4G speeds i've gotten is an indication, where it has tested as high as 28 megs, a little more patience will go a long way.

I think he is one of those never happy customers.
Complained about TMobile, complains about sprint. IF he went to att he would find something to complain about them as well.
If your unhappy with it do something about it other then letting us know your not happy.
IF you need the number to Sprint let me know, i will google it for you..
Im on Sprint. I am patient enough to wait out the issues and am finally seeing some improvement..

Sprint has best price and best phone selection.

Been with Sprint for more then 8 years...I've had my issues but they aren't enough for me to complain about and I can do everything on my phone with their 3G service.
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boogief1 said:
We have the latest smart phones but cant use to its fulk capabilities because network is horrible anyone else getting ready to leave sprint it makes me mad that i have full bars and i cant not use web
Im on my SG3
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If you posted this from your phone, logged onto this forum and made a thread. Is that not using the full capacity of the service provider on your mobile device?

Most people here have been with sprint prior to coming to the S3 and we just deal with it mostly because of price and unlimited data. It's pretty well known that sprint doesn't have the best coverage (could change in the future) and if this is a deal breaker for anyone then that person should've researched more before signing on.
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Sprint was goid when i got it about four years ago im just saying in Chicago is getting worst and worst lots of people i know are dropping sprint what kind of **** is it that i have full bar 3g and my web doesnt work
Im on my SG3

Once again, did you but know this before signing a contract?
If it's that terrible pay the etf and move on. Complaining isn't going to do a damn thing about it.
And I'm willing to bet your web works. But not in the way you want it to.
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I get mad then I think about how verizon and AtT are so expensive and how tmobile also doesnt have unlimited data. Then I become happy and say Thank goodness im with sprint.:thumbup:

I agree with the op no need to flame him I did speed test in at&t stores and sprint and sprint is so far behind its crazy
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@speedin07si dude my web does not work at all and this is tested on 3 phone and none of them rooted
Im on my SG3

boogief1 said:
@speedin07si dude my web does not work at all and this is tested on 3 phone and none of them rooted
Im on my SG3
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Sounds like it may just be you then. Our else we'd see a ton more users in your area reporting they can't connect to the browser.
I agree Sprint service is subpar compared to other companies.
If you are unhappy go fight with Sprint and tell them to waive your etf she to no service at your house.
Just my .02
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Just left sprint for Verizon. I had the s3 but got tired of sprint basically I had a 3g so I switched to Verizon got s3 that I can actually use 4g on
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If you're near Chicago it may be an issue with the pending upgrade to LTE.
I just came to Sprint from Verizon because Verizon is too expensive and because they (and the handset manufacturers whose phones they sell) lock everything down so tightly. I really got fed up with them when they claimed that the OG Droid (which I owned) was not capable - from a hardware standpoint - of wireless tethering when my Droid was rooted and I was actually tethering. Sprint's coverage is currently not as good as Verizon, but it is cheaper, it is unlimited data, and I think it will be much better coverage when the upgrade to LTE is done and they "turn on the switch." Until the upgrade is done why don't you just quietly "ride out the storm."
That being said, I get 4G about 80% of the time and am getting about 15M up and 1.9M . Maybe you can look forward to that.

Sprint does do things as- backwards,
Sprint was the First with the Best 4G device available, the Evo 4G, but most customers never saw Wimax to take full advantage of the Evo's capabilities.
I didn't see Wimax until over a year later, and I was one of the fortunate ones
All the promises by Sprint regarding Wimax coming to your city soon, were emptier than a pot full of gold left in the middle of Times Square at High Noon.
Now we have LTE, well most really don't, at least for now.
I do hope that LTE is not rolled out like Wimax Never was.
Hey, I got my S3 without LTE availability yet. Was this a smart choice? Probably not. But I like the S3 if it begins to have the ability to make calls without constantly dropping them.
Hopefully the LF9 modem takes care of this.
Yet I digress.
As I said, Sprint's track record has been poor regarding rolling out Networks. I will be happy if LTE proves me wrong........

boogief1 said:
Sprint was goid when i got it about four years ago im just saying in Chicago is getting worst and worst lots of people i know are dropping sprint what kind of **** is it that i have full bar 3g and my web doesnt work
Im on my SG3
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You do know that Sprint is currently in a total rebuild of the Chicago system with the Network Vision/LTE upgrade. According to S4GRU.com they are about 40% built, with an estimated deployment of September 2012. When they rebuild a market there are disruptions.
I, on the other hand am in a market not even scheduled for LTE yet.

I feel a little silly, just found out about sprints site.

So after years of being curious as to where the towers where for my sprint service, but never curious enough to actually try to find it, after reviewing my sprint bill I saw the link on the sprint page about service issue and location of towers.
I thought you guys may find this site useful. Those of you on sprint and having network issue.
https://network.sprint.com/search/10035/

Mship said:
So after years of being curious as to where the towers where for my sprint service, but never curious enough to actually try to find it, after reviewing my sprint bill I saw the link on the sprint page about service issue and location of towers.
I thought you guys may find this site useful. Those of you on sprint and having network issue.
https://network.sprint.com/search/10035/
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Yea do 84010. It's ****in retarded where I am at. I am in the mountain more pretty far from the towers.

thing lies dont even bother with it

Dreamlogix said:
thing lies dont even bother with it
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After reading what you wrote I couldn't resist and check the site. I was getting 10 meg download before they completed their capacity upgrade and data speed up grade. Now my 4g speed has dropped to 700K. Tower is 1/4 mile from my house. Thanks sprint :banghead::banghead:
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told u their coverage maps show that i have 4g coverage guess what no 4g coverage untill the main street a mile or 3 away
oneword
falseadvertising
lol not really

There's actually a website out there that shows every single tower out there (or the majority of it) including location, owner, etc.
Can't be pressed to find it but it's out there and if you find it then you can check around you for any towers. It's interesting seeing how much towers from multiple carriers are spread out around your area.

Mship said:
So after years of being curious as to where the towers where for my sprint service, but never curious enough to actually try to find it, after reviewing my sprint bill I saw the link on the sprint page about service issue and location of towers.
I thought you guys may find this site useful. Those of you on sprint and having network issue.
https://network.sprint.com/search/10035/
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Holy ****! You have a load of towers in your area.

Mship said:
So after years of being curious as to where the towers where for my sprint service, but never curious enough to actually try to find it, after reviewing my sprint bill I saw the link on the sprint page about service issue and location of towers.
I thought you guys may find this site useful. Those of you on sprint and having network issue.
https://network.sprint.com/search/10035/
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Chalk up another one to your group of not aware people. I knew the coverage map but not this tower locator. Pretty helpful to be able to verify the drop zones of Sprint. So helpful I'm going to put a bookmark on my home screen to ease my frustration. Unlimited data takes the pain off the bite whenever my phone isn't working because of data loss.

Neat, thanks for this didn't know about it. My service blows :thumbdown: check out 97501
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My house is just a bit North of the center of that map. I get 6 bars, but cap out at 20KB/S.
Usually I get 6 or less. Thank God for wifi.

Thanks for sharing. I got two towers about less than 1 mile away. Lol. I get 4-6 bars with.....
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Old result list, but these were taken with 6 bars in the center of those 3 towers on the map.

Ravaged Pheonix said:
Old result list, but these were taken with 6 bars in the center of those 3 towers on the map.
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That's is sad Phoenix .
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That's is sad Phoenix .
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Ironically, those were typical speeds in Phoenix until recently.
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Folks - read the legend carefully. It appears that map only shows towers that are, or will be upgraded.
If you switch views to 'show coverage area' you end up with Sprints 'optimistic color map showing coverage just about everywhere (eg a lie); yet even that map chooses to indicate some new and future towers.
In summary, I don't think there's a view that comprehensively shows all towers, let alone distinguishing which towers have 4G coverage.
If I'm missing something or someone knows of an alternative site, please let me know.
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I somehow can connect to 4g in my area, even though sprint says there is no 4g in my area. 12084

Mine is 78109 however, what is shows and what I get are two totally different things, I should be rocking but half the time my 3G is faster and more reliable than my 4G. I know they are in the proccess of removing a lot of the WiMax in my area and replacing them with LTE.

This can't include any other company's towers. I live in 48189, and get pretty good service 2-3 bars (not great, but servicable) , but my brother lives in 48350 and gets garbage, but has more towers that are closer, and has only 0-1 bars.

If you are in a non deployed market and get wimax then you're connecting to a protection Site. These are just there to fulfill fcc build out requirements and will not be upgraded like most wimax sites
As of now. Clear wire is reportedly upgrading wimax Site backends to support tdlte. If you get wimax in a launched market then you'll probably get Clear wire tdlte.
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