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4G Service Sucks....

Mine barely ever connects and then when it does, its like it doesn't know because no pages will load(connection error). Got my azz handed to me by Bionic yesterday. My coworker and I were out for happy hour and did a little speed test on 4g...yep he definitely got me.
I need some WIMAX tweaks immediately!!! LOL..but not really LOLing. Im serious

Verizon's network is better. (fact)
Sprint's phones are better. (fact, with minor opinion)
It's a hard choice, but Sprint's network is fantastic in Florida, so I can't really complain.

sorry your in a bad 4g area. 4G works great for me

Success100 said:
sorry your in a bad 4g area. 4G works great for me
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Same here. Full bar 4G inside my place in SoCal
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Bad 4g is normal with sprint
Sprint's wimax has a 2.5ghz frequency
This means it doesnt do to well when passing walls
Verizon's lte has a 700mhz frequency thats why it was better range
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I dont even have Sprint 4G here in Phoenix, and their 3G sucks. I get about .40mbps on average in Phoenix.

4G doesn't suck, it is just Sprint's half assed implementation that sucks.

boe said:
4G doesn't suck, it is just Sprint's half assed implementation that sucks.
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Sprint's 4G & 3G suck!

My 4g inside my house on first floor also sucks but verizon 4g also sucked at my house. In fact verizon dropped occasional calls and I needed to get a network extender. Sprint's network will get better but will probably need lte phone in the future to take advantage of it.

Try the wimax tweaks http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1265990&page=6
Basically lets wimax latch on to a weaker signal

im pretty sure its dependant on area. I have no issues with 3g. I get usually between 700kbps-1.3mbps. on 4g i usually get between 7-12mbps. Not too shabbby for a guy like me

Sprint 4G is garbage. Downtown in 4 different cities you get 2 bars outside and nothing as soon as you go indoors.

anubis13 said:
Sprint 4G is garbage. Downtown in 4 different cities you get 2 bars outside and nothing as soon as you go indoors.
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well..umm..theres always VZ if it doesnt meet your needs? not trying to be funny but if you are dissatisfied maybe you should look into VZ if it doesnt work in the places you need it to homie

Success100 said:
im pretty sure its dependant on area. I have no issues with 3g. I get usually between 700kbps-1.3mbps. on 4g i usually get between 7-12mbps. Not too shabbby for a guy like me
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Same here, I was getting a little slower speeds but for the past week or so that's what I been getting

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Just outside of NW Houston, not super fantastic, but good imo
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I don't understand topics like this.
Its one thing to try to fix this issue (via tweaks, etc) its another to whine.
Feel free to leave any carrier whose network is not performing to your standards.

I haven't even had the chance to experience 4G yet here in my area (not available yet). Still having to pay the $10 a month "premium"data fee though.
That's what truly sucks!

ravenstarr said:
I haven't even had the chance to experience 4G yet here in my area (not available yet). Still having to pay the $10 a month "premium"data fee though.
That's what truly sucks!
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Yes, it sucks but the $10 premium is even for smartphones that do not have 4G.

Sprints 3g speeds have been pretty bad. Anyone I meet on other carriers have like 3mbps while mine has like 1mbps. One bar of 4g signal and I am at 3mbps, two or three bars and I am at 6mbps or more.

Sprint 4g works pretty well for me up and down the east coast anyway in major cities. I travel a lot and spend a lot of time in airports and hotels near airports. The only place I find Sprint to kind of suck is oddly New York.
I had T-mobile which worked most places but their service sucked for speed especially at my home, solid bars but only .4 Mbps with whereas I get 1 Mbps 3g and 8 Mbps 4G with Sprint. Almost as fast as my Comcast cable internet.
Anyway YMMV. Probably VZW is the "best" but their data plans suck with 2Gb limit and they're expensive as hell with poor customer service. Instead of complaining how about doing a little research, ask friends, and take advantage of the trial period and figuring out which works best for you in your area.

Having 3g speed problem with your ET4G?

http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/1...de-plans-after-reaching-out-to-ceo-dan-hesse/

I live in the bay area so that's great news
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we know the upgrade plans, but how long will it take for your area is the question.
If it's this bad half way through next year I'll be very unhappy.
Sent from my Galaxy S2 Epic 4g Touch.

I'm sure I'll reap the benefits of this (if it happens...) very quickly, as I live in one of the first areas to get anything from any carrier.
....and that also means I'll be able to get decent home internet speeds, finally(via tether).

Well hurry up and fix the Oxnard Ca sites, evenings and weekends my download speeds are less then 70kbps. From 3am to 9am during the week I can get 1.5 Mbps down.
Thank god for my ipad sim in a mifi.

http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/1...nts-in-3g-speeds-in-some-areas-how-about-you/

I have a lot of data problems near my work... which is why I am switching to .0001 PRL for now. I can't live off 1bar and 10kbps downloads while at work....

Dulanic said:
I have a lot of data problems near my work... which is why I am switching to .0001 PRL for now. I can't live off 1bar and 10kbps downloads while at work....
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Dulanic said:
I have a lot of data problems near my work... which is why I am switching to .0001 PRL for now. I can't live off 1bar and 10kbps downloads while at work....
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How do I do this? Also what is the difference in speed? I'm getting like 40 something k during some parts of the day and it's very frustrating.

siptang said:
How do I do this? Also what is the difference in speed? I'm getting like 40 something k during some parts of the day and it's very frustrating.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1267893
You should be able to get over 1mbps if Verizon has 3G in your area

Thanks. Where don't they have 3g network? lol.

Anybody ever do any side by side speed tests with other devices? I ran a test with three E4GTs, an EVO 4G and an EVO 3D. Both EVO's cleared over a meg d/l while all three E4GTs (including mine) barely broke 200 kb/s. Sprint needs to get their network up to snuff no doubt but I think there is also something going on with the hardware/firmware of our phones too. I spent an hour on the phone with Sprint and Samsung today about it (of course they weren't able to help and played dumb).

For a while I was pulling my hair out, and updating prls, having Sprint reset my account and reprovisioning my phones.
E4GT, Optima S, Evo 4G and hacked Droid Incredible all scored the same pathetic sub 100Kbs in my area. I ran again at 5am and all of them managed above 1Mbps. Just over loaded towers in my area. Its worse since the Iphone.

I guess Anaheim Hills, CA is unaffected. My speeds have been great.

The Evo3d received a network service update a couple days ago and a lot of people who received it said they are getting better 3g speeds all of a sudden. Just check the second link I posted up on this thread. So comparing an Evo3d to anything might not be fair at the moment. All depending on your area that is. I received a network service update on my girl's Evo3d and it still gets the same 3g speeds as my ET4g. Just average speeds in my area. Here's the link explaining network changes in the Bay area.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/11...how-about-you/

cdszoke said:
The Evo3d received a network service update a couple days ago and a lot of people who received it said they are getting better 3g speeds all of a sudden. Just check the second link I posted up on this thread. So comparing an Evo3d to anything might not be fair at the moment. All depending on your area that is. I received a network service update on my girl's Evo3d and it still gets the same 3g speeds as my ET4g. Just average speeds in my area. Here's the link explaining network changes in the Bay area.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/11...how-about-you/
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Maybe they gave in and just gave it the ENG radio. When I had my E3D and I flashed the leaked eng radio (I forget the version number) my speeds were anywhere from 30-60% faster. It might have affected battery life, but, who knows...battery life sucked on that thing regardless.
I always found it strange that every radio update just seemed to make it go slower and slower...I think Sprint was up to something...

Sneak peek at Sprint's new LTE speeds (and WAYYY improved 3G speeds).

Here's one with dude testing newest LTE upgrade "somewhere" near Houston, or San Antonio, TX area:
http://goo.gl/G5a3U
And here's him testing upgraded 3g service in the same area:
http://goo.gl/FbDoj
I live right outside Houston, TX (one of the first "official" cities to be updated), and I wholly approve of these videos.
Looks like we won't have to wait too long.
Opinions?
Edit: "opinions":
(that is, other than opinions about that dude's "extracurricular activities"....) which would be both way too easy, and also not very cool.
Edit: This isn't where I first read about this, but it seems androidpolice has picked up the story: (may give a little more insight):
http://goo.gl/JSGSt

extracurricular? I don't get it...
But mmmmm...speed. that looks reaaalll nice.
Edit: and you can see "sprint pcs" listed as the ISP on speedtest.net's website, so looks pretty authentic.
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Lol youporn at 7:30
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Yeah, it's fast. But, then again, nobody is on it. Let's see the speeds when 2 million phones are on the network.

Those 3G speeds are past the theoretical max of EVDO RevA.
Is the upgrade and the device being used to test using something other than EVDO RevA?

sfhub said:
Those 3G speeds are past the theoretical max of EVDO RevA.
Is the upgrade and the device being used to test using something other than EVDO RevA?
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From reading about this on another site, it had to do with some new Huawei device that Sprint is testing for its new LTE installations.
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My 3G speeds have definitely improved. For the first time today I got 2.2mbps download. Well at least sprint is improving 3G speeds since there is no 4G in my area
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I wonder if it's using both 800mhz and 1900mhz at the same time to get those speeds.
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I'd really like to believe this, and the 4G LTE speeds are certainly feasible, but Sprint's (and Verizon's) 3G technology is EVDO Rev. A, which maxes out at 3.1Mbps and that 3G speed test video shows the speed being more than double that.
It's fishy.
Here are my 3G speeds right now:
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i call bs on that 3g speed

Have any of you even heard of the new network? Evdo rev b. Simultaneous voice and data. Almost twice the coverage from the same tower. Twice the speed.
I am extremely excited. This is the network I have been waiting for! Once its up and running it will pretty much poop on all networks.

SVDO is separate from Rev B. You can have SVDO even on Rev A. HTC Thunderbolt on Verizon already does that.
Rev B achieves the higher speed through bonding. May or may not yield a real-world improvement during daytime usage depending on your area and conditions. Nighttime usage would probably see a big improvement though.
Too bad our phones don't do Rev B.

The evo can do rev b. I thought the ns4g and epic touch were capable as well.

stkiswr said:
The evo can do rev b. I thought the ns4g and epic touch were capable as well.
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I don't believe any of the Samsungs (including Epic 4G Touch) can do Rev B because Samsung uses a separate module for the modem (QSC6085) which they haven't updated for a while. This module is common to many of their phones, including the Epic 4G Touch.
HTC tends to use whatever Qualcomm puts out in their current chipset rather than using a separate modem module, so that is why their phones support Rev B.
Now all this Rev B stuff being the explanation for the faster than Rev A 3g speeds is just theory. It is certainly a plausible explanation. The video being bogus is another plausible explanation.

stkiswr said:
The evo can do rev b. I thought the ns4g and epic touch were capable as well.
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Dont know about the NS4G but our phone the epic touch does not support EVDO Rev B.

thank y'all for correcting me. As I said I thought, but clearly am wrong. I am also under the impression the the speed is due to rev b as that is part of the network vision plans. I hope they post some concrete info because I would love 5mb on 3g. Better coverage. All positives yo me.

stkiswr said:
thank y'all for correcting me. As I said I thought, but clearly am wrong. I am also under the impression the the speed is due to rev b as that is part of the network vision plans. I hope they post some concrete info because I would love 5mb on 3g. Better coverage. All positives yo me.
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From a deployment perspective all the tower hardware should support Rev B, but the last time around when we had this discussion, all indications from Sprint were that they weren't deploying Rev B.
Do you have information now that they have officially said they are supporting/deploying Rev B?

You think the phones will have an LTE toggle or will it work like VZW and just turn on by default. (It seems to be more battery friendly than WiMax.) I don't know if it's because of the technology or what.

sfhub said:
From a deployment perspective all the tower hardware should support Rev B, but the last time around when we had this discussion, all indications from Sprint were that they weren't deploying Rev B.
Do you have information now that they have officially said they are supporting/deploying Rev B?
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Not anymore, there was a video of a sprint conference discussing the benefits but I can't find the link. If I come across more info I'll drop a link

Maybe Sprint just left Rev. B on the tower enabled during testing. It's possible that's why those speeds are coming up. The question is if Sprint is planning to do Rev. B?
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So are our phones LTE capable???

I was told by a sprint employee they were, then here that they're not. Then I see this in a thread...
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Same issue in Houston two days ago. Wife's Evo 4G had no issues connecting right next to me so I knew it wasn't a tower issue, but my phone or the plan. Called Sprint and talked to three people. The last person I got was in the 4G department. They found that the system is going through upgrades right now for LTE, but he would not elaberate due to privacy concerns... or something like that. He said that my phone had been removed from the Wimax channel to the LTE channel. Since that happened the towers were ignoring my request for an IP. He said the phone is either setup for Wimax or LTE but not for both. 0_o So I asked him how to setup the phone for LTE and he said "there is no need yet since LTE is not open to the public, but only in the testing phase" So I asked... exactly "So can I call back and have my phone switched from Wimax to LTE when LTE is opened up to the public in Houston?" He said "Yes"?!?!?!?!
What does that mean??? He knows all about my phone and what it can do so why did he say that?
Also he mentioned that this seems to be happening to all Epic 4G Touch phones since they are listed in the Sprint system as LTE capable. So that is why people in Q1/Q2 LTE area's are having the issue.
Call sprint and get the 4G people on the phone to reprop your phone from LTE channel back to Wimax.
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Caulkins E4GT GB 2.9.2 bare ROM, FB27 modem, rogue gunslinger kernel on one EPIC beast of a phone.

No.
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No they are not. Do not always listen to a Sprint employee 90% of them are flat out stupid. We will not have LTE support. There IS however a SPH-L710 that passed WiFi certs a few weeks back. My guess is that it's the SGS2 but with LTE support and WiMax removed.

Asking a Sprint call center employee to explain or elaborate on a technical detail of their network is like asking a McDonalds counter person to explain how they raised their cows.
They'll give you their 4th grade education mixed with overheard and misunderstood watercooler rumor as fact. "Could you turn off your phone, and pull out the battery? Now restart it! See its fixed, just like our network! Thanks for calling Sprint! Is there anything I can do for you?"***
Oh, btw, if for some reason our phones were capable, it would have been a selling point since release. So, sadly, no.
And if you google it, there are some people talking about tear-downs, and the visible chips, and how those chips are not LTE capable....
(*** btw, not a Sprint hater. Or even a Sprint employee hater. just a call-center, script-reading, poor misinformed souls hater. please don't attempt to answer my question if you don't actually know the answer just to boost your solution resolution percentages)
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ahoyt05 said:
I was told by a sprint employee they were, then here that they're not.
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In my limited dealings with sprint cs, they aren't the brightest.
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"So can I call back and have my phone switched from Wimax to LTE when LTE is opened up to the public in Houston?" He said "Yes"?!?!?!?!
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When it's worded that way, the guy probably thought he was asking if he can switch to an LTE capable phone. If current Wimax phones only needed a firmware update to work on LTE, Sprint would be doing some good PR work so everyone knew it.

There's a reason the G-Nex is advertised as "Sprints first LTE phone"
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I LOL'ed when I saw that hahaha
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ydoucare said:
When it's worded that way, the guy probably thought he was asking if he can switch to an LTE capable phone. If current Wimax phones only needed a firmware update to work on LTE, Sprint would be doing some good PR work so everyone knew it.
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I agree I assumed he was implying that as well.
It is true though that these phones are not LTE capable.
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The only way this phone is going to get you anywhere near lte is if it breaks and asurion runs out of replacements

Somewhat true
I will look for the Doc about this,but I did read some investor fact sheets for sprint transfer to LTE. The big selling point for big investors to put money into sprints LTE was a wider spectrum that would include the bands needed for wimax phones to receive 4g in a sprint LTE only area.
They use a similar system in France, China and other countries where the gov stepped in and funded a super fast wireless broadband system. Are phones would still not be able to roam on LTE but on Sprints network we would still benefit from LTE.

sprint op are dumb. You need to have an LTE chip for that feature

MvDef said:
I will look for the Doc about this,but I did read some investor fact sheets for sprint transfer to LTE. The big selling point for big investors to put money into sprints LTE was a wider spectrum that would include the bands needed for wimax phones to receive 4g in a sprint LTE only area.
They use a similar system in France, China and other countries where the gov stepped in and funded a super fast wireless broadband system. Are phones would still not be able to roam on LTE but on Sprints network we would still benefit from LTE.
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Would that benefit not come from users going to LTE and getting off (for the most part) of the 3G however. If Sprint is in fact doing things somewhat like Verizon is most 3G data is being offloaded (iirc) to the LTE band which frees up 3G.

cidica said:
Would that benefit not come from users going to LTE and getting off (for the most part) of the 3G however. If Sprint is in fact doing things somewhat like Verizon is most 3G data is being offloaded (iirc) to the LTE band which frees up 3G.
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The way you put it makes it to easy. next time I'm not going ramble on and on.....
Hahaaa

yang704 said:
sprint op are dumb. You need to have an LTE chip for that feature
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Also, having a processor that supports LTE wouldn't hurt.
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Post your speed test!

The title says it all. Post a picture of your speed test. Also if you want post modem and ROM you use.
I hope in the long run this little thread can help people when it comes to info on modems and setups people are using.
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Im running Calkulins GB v3.0 with the ff11 modem

FF18 ota rooted.
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And this is how I got out of my contract and why I'm leaving Sprint next week after 10 years. This is actually a good speed test for me.

How did you manage to get out of your contract?
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Here is mine, I believe I was on Blazers 4.1 or possibly stock EL29.

3G speeds for me suck bad. Here's mine.
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Im getting around 1mbps download all hours of the day after a little work i use to get .7mbps and lower .Im using agats 2.0 with Wicked Sensations 1.5 . Modem is ff18 with a 11119 PRL until the prl Swap my data was crap . I can't get the screen on here but heres a link http://db.tt/87PlLhCN
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Read 'em and weep.

Stock FF18 rooted FF18 modem, ridiculous speeds
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I've been using Sprint for years, their 4G service for over a year now and I've never seen speeds anywhere near what I've seen past few days... it's crazy. I'm hitting 13mb at night, 11mb during the day... I'm VERY pleased right now, it's like years of struggle and their rewarding me.
Rom is straight up Cyanogen 9.

For me, ping times double on ICS.
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ih8sense said:
I've been using Sprint for years, their 4G service for over a year now and I've never seen speeds anywhere near what I've seen past few days... it's crazy. I'm hitting 13mb at night, 11mb during the day... I'm VERY pleased right now, it's like years of struggle and their rewarding me.
Rom is straight up Cyanogen 9.
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Any chance we can a few more details like where?

woody296 said:
Any chance we can a few more details like where?
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From playing around past several days, it's all around the pacific northwest, Oregon, Washington, etc.
My guess is they're upgrading towers for LTE. 3G speeds are still the same though, that is to say, beyond belief terrible. But 4G has gone nuts. I might try to find a Sprint store in the area and check to see if LTE is live yet.

ih8sense said:
From playing around past several days, it's all around the pacific northwest, Oregon, Washington, etc.
My guess is they're upgrading towers for LTE. 3G speeds are still the same though, that is to say, beyond belief terrible. But 4G has gone nuts. I might try to find a Sprint store in the area and check to see if LTE is live yet.
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So you say your wimax 4g speeds have gone up as a result of the network vision work? I thought that was for lte and 3g improvements only? Can anyone else comment on that?

woody296 said:
So you say your wimax 4g speeds have gone up as a result of the network vision work? I thought that was for lte and 3g improvements only? Can anyone else comment on that?
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Beats me as to whats going on... all I know is I've never seen a speedtest result beyond 7mb or so on a GOOD day, now even during busy hours I'm hitting 11, 12, 13... maybe so many Sprint subscribers have cancelled their service due to poor network speeds there's simply now an abundance of bandwidth. lol :laugh:

Rob the plumber said:
Read 'em and weep.
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speeds are so bad he didn't even let the test finish.
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ih8sense said:
Beats me as to whats going on... all I know is I've never seen a speedtest result beyond 7mb or so on a GOOD day, now even during busy hours I'm hitting 11, 12, 13... maybe so many Sprint subscribers have cancelled their service due to poor network speeds there's simply now an abundance of bandwidth. lol :laugh:
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Notice the same here in Orlando, 4g speeds have never been higher. Could it be people switching to LTE devices and getting off of wimax?
Edit: unnamed rom, ff18 modem
Swyped from my Samsung Epic™ 4G Touch.

Caulk ROM 3.0, modem ek02 also in the Miami area only Wimax I don't use 3g lol
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So according to sprint the average lte speed isn't going to be much better than wimax?http://www.sprint.com/landings/lte/index.html?ECID=vanity:lte

woody296 said:
So according to sprint the average lte speed isn't going to be much better than wimax?http://www.sprint.com/landings/lte/index.html?ECID=vanity:lte
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Have you looked at the ping differences?