Sprint's giving Lightsquared 30 more days for FCC approval - Samsung Epic 4G Touch

http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/02/sprint-gives-lightsquared-an-extra-30-days-to-gain-fcc-approval/
Doesn't seem like Sprint can catch a break related to "4g" eh?
Clear issues, now Lightsquared.

Any insight on why light squared isn't able to garner FCC approval.
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FCC approval will never come due GPS conflict Its a con game sprints been playing on their customers for some time.

sling said:
FCC approval was never going to come due GPS conflict Its a con game both have been playing for some time.
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Hmmmm thanks for the input , time to research.
Edit interesting article
http://www.insidegnss.com/node/2839
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The thing is everyone points a finger at light squared but its not their fault. The real problem is that gps is intruding on lightsquareds spectrum and not the other way around. The fcc and the gps makers want lightsquared to foot the bill for a problem they both have created. Its not fair and the fcc needs to step up take ownership and say sorry we fell asleep at the wheel and make the gps makers foot the bill and give them a timeline of when it needs to be done.

The real story is Falcone bought some property cheap that he thought he could build on, then when he went to build, found there were long-time squatters. He kind of knew about them when he bought the property but thought he could kick them off the land since they weren't supposed to be there, but the squatters were more organized than he thought. Also the other property owners around there like charging higher rents and Falcone was planning on charging lower rents, so those property owners got on the side of the squatters.
This is not taking sides who is right or wrong, just explaining the situation.

flight01 said:
The thing is everyone points a finger at light squared but its not their fault. The real problem is that gps is intruding on lightsquareds spectrum and not the other way around. The fcc and the gps makers want lightsquared to foot the bill for a problem they both have created. Its not fair and the fcc needs to step up take ownership and say sorry we fell asleep at the wheel and make the gps makers foot the bill and give them a timeline of when it needs to be done.
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I agree 100% lightSquared not at fault but this outcome was expected.
Sprint played it down no big deal throwing LTE 2012 promises.

sling said:
I agree 100% lightSquared not at fault but this outcome was expected.
Sprint played it down no big deal throwing LTE 2012 promises to customers.
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Either way Sprint will be bringing LTE to customers.
Losing LightSquared will just slow it down.

Losing LightSquared affects how much LTE capacity Sprint will have available.
It won't affect Sprint's LTE deployment schedule because Sprint was the one providing the towers for LightSquared, not the other way around.

mattykinsx said:
Either way Sprint will be bringing LTE to customers.
Losing LightSquared will just slow it down.
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Sounds great what spectrum will their LTE be running on?

sling said:
Sounds great what spectrum will their LTE be running on?
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Sprint has spectrum in 800 from Nextel and their own 1900 spectrum and finally whatever they can get Clear to convert on 2500.
800 doesn't really have enough for high-bandwidth apps, but they probably would use it to shift things around to make more room at 1900.

sling said:
Sounds great what spectrum will their LTE be running on?
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I was going to answer you...but... ^

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I was going to answer you...but... ^
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The answer to be expected but the problem is $$$$...the lack of it in Sprints pocket.
I guess we all can keep LTE dreaming with the final product even delayed more lol

newalker91 said:
Sprint has over $6 billion in matured stock and that value is increasing daily.
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What exactly is "matured" stock? Sprint's stock has been decreasing since the Nextel merger.

sfhub said:
What exactly is "matured" stock? Sprint's stock has been decreasing since the Nextel merger.
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There are very few stocks that haven't declined since that merger.
Way to go economy.

All D's fancy wurdz ... is we gettings 4ggzz lte eees soown?
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lte
newalker91 said:
If I remember correctly, they had stated on their network vision page that they would be using the iDEN spectrum to roll out LTE.
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sprint was initially rolling it out on 1900 and moving it to 850 when they shut down nextel ..... but the first was 1900 .....they wont touch the 2500 **** ..... if you put lte on it ... it will be just as bad as wimax sprint wont do that they will try to keep the blame on wimax not the frequency

mattykinsx said:
There are very few stocks that haven't declined since that merger.
Way to go economy.
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Sprint is down 90% since the merger completed.
S&P 500 is virtually unchanged with runs up 20+% in between.
IMO there is a big difference between the performance of stocks "in general" and Sprint
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sprint was initially rolling it out on 1900 and moving it to 850 when they shut down nextel ..... but the first was 1900 .....they wont touch the 2500 **** ..... if you put lte on it ... it will be just as bad as wimax sprint wont do that they will try to keep the blame on wimax not the frequency
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There's nothing wrong with a tiered approach, using 2500 to offload data traffic for outdoor users and reserving your more appropriate lower frequencies for indoor use.
Clearwire issue is 2500 was the *only* spectrum they were using.

sfhub said:
Sprint is down 90% since the merger completed.
S&P 500 is virtually unchanged with runs up 20+% in between.
IMO there is a big difference between the performance of stocks "in general" and Sprint
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It wasn't meant to be taken absolutely literal.
Even Microsoft has only recently climbed back up to close to "unchanged" for the past 8 years.
That really shows how the past 8 years have been.
Anyway this is really neither here nor there.
Not relevant to the thread.

Related

No Rev b on QSC 6085

Might have to return the phone until the October 7th announcement since this phone doesn't support Rev B. Sucks because I LOVE this phone, but I want it to be future proof, which by it not supporting Rev B it is NOT. The only phone out for Sprint right now that does support it is the EVO 3D.
I agree with you. Very surprised that this phone would be released without Rev. B support if that is in fact the path Sprint decides to take. Guess we will have to wait and see what happens. Guess I will hang on to my 3D a little longer just in case!
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nstavr said:
I agree with you. Very surprised that this phone would be released without Rev. B support if that is in fact the path Sprint decides to take. Guess we will have to wait and see what happens. Guess I will hang on to my 3D a little longer just in case!
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The Photon I believe DOES have rev B support if they do infact have the Qualcomm MDM6600 like the EVO 3D, but I can't get confirmation on that.
Very disappointed they would use an older chipset that isn't compatible with rev b....
Thanks for cutting costs to make that $200 contract price point, Sprint!
So now we have what was, arguably, the hottest phone in the world (besides the iPhone) and we're hampered forever by the For Now network, which loses area in the coverage map almost daily...
*sigh*
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Thanks for cutting costs to make that $200 contract price point, Sprint!
So now we have what was, arguably, the hottest phone in the world (besides the iPhone) and we're hampered forever by the For Now network, which loses area in the coverage map almost daily...
*sigh*
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Sadly I agree. I will be getting the Photon 4g soon, not only to compare and contrast with the E4GT, but also so I can at least have that until October 7th and see if that actually is part of Sprints big announcement.
There was a story I read dont remdmber where that it said the evo 3d and the gs2 and the conquer have rev b support the photon was up in the air but I have both so either way I should be good.
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Also, funny how Sprint conveniently changes the trial period from 30 days to 14 when they release the E4GT then THREE weeks later they are making a 4G announcement ....
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There was a story I read dont remdmber where that it said the evo 3d and the gs2 and the conquer have rev b support the photon was up in the air but I have both so either way I should be good.
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According to everything I have read, the chipset in the E4GT does NOT support Rev B, but the chipsets in the EVO 3D and the Photon 4G do (they both have MDM6600).
I made a thread on this very subject yesterday.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1271527
So, does this mean the 3G on our devices will be rendered incapable? I get like 1.5-2 Mbps on 3G, I'm cool with that and I also live a 5 minute walk from downtown, so I'm also cloaked in 7-10 WiMax.
Could someone explain if this will make any difference to the way my device functions now?
Edit: Another question, if the ET hadd the 3D's chipset, would we be having the same signal woes?
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Beejis said:
Might have to return the phone until the October 7th announcement since this phone doesn't support Rev B. Sucks because I LOVE this phone, but I want it to be future proof, which by it not supporting Rev B it is NOT. The only phone out for Sprint right now that does support it is the EVO 3D.
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I need hard proof... Not saying your lying but look at the 3d "1080p" picture and video recording advertisement misshap
unless sprint comes out and says it im not returning it... And if they go past my 30 days (I traded in the photon so I still have the 30 day thing) I will make sure im leg out of my contract for a obsolete radio in this phone (if that's the case
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Phone scoop says it supports the 800 mHz band:
http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=3301
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Phone scoop says it supports the 800 mHz band:
http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=3301
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That it does, but what good is a BRAND NEW phone if it isn't future proof for the next 2 years (now that there are no more premier upgrades and assuming that is Sprints announcement obviously). I will wait it out for another week (literally) and see if there are any leaks to the big announcement, but I will be returning the phone come next week just so I can delay some more for the announcement.
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Phone scoop says it supports the 800 mHz band:
http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=3301
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Yes. And if you click on the FCC link you'll see the phone does, in fact, receive in the 800MHz band.
https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/reports/GenericSearchResult.cfm?RequestTimeout=30
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Are we 100% sure the epic touch uses the 6085 ? This link sez the chip # was covered. Did he actually remove the label ?
http://www.ifixit.com/Answers/View/64642/Qualcomm+QSC6085+CDMA+Processor
Vegasden said:
Yes. And if you click on the FCC link you'll see the phone does, in fact, receive in the 800MHz band.
https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/reports/GenericSearchResult.cfm?RequestTimeout=30
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But is that all that is required for rev b?
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But is that all that is required for rev b?
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Not sure. There is EVDO advanced which is speeds beyond rev B. I suspect with the SDR's on the netowrk vision they will be able ot do it.
The CDMA radio image on phones is a real time operating system that fits into around 22MB. (The wimax chipset also runs a real time operating system.) I don't see why these couldn't be upgraded with a flash to support rev B or beyond, or why wimax couldn't be flashed to run LTE protocol.
jake21 said:
Are we 100% sure the epic touch uses the 6085 ? This link sez the chip # was covered. Did he actually remove the label ?
http://www.ifixit.com/Answers/View/64642/Qualcomm+QSC6085+CDMA+Processor
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I'll get a screenshot up myself soon but enter ##33284# and click on configuration.
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Would be nice if there was a sure way to know. The phone is not really worth keeping if they didn't even bother with updating the radio.

Sprint Upgrading 3G Coverage Area To EvDO Rev B October 7th? (ET4G & 3VO Compatible)

Sprint Upgrading 3G Coverage Area To EvDO Rev B October 7th? (ET4G & 3VO Compatible)
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We just got tips from two separate sources, so lets roll with this one. Sprints network vision press conference is scheduled for October 7th of this year, where they are reportedly going to discuss their 4G network plans going forward. What has not been rumored yet is any updates and future upgrades to their existing 3G network. We just learned from our two separate sources that Sprint plans on upgrading their existing EvDO Rev A 3G network to Rev B, enabling much faster speeds on both the up and down link. We were told to expect up to 9Mbps down and 2Mbps up, enabling them to surpass every other 3G network in the US including the “4G” networks T-Mobile and ATT like to say they have. Not all current phones support EVDO Rev B, but we do know at a minimum the Evo 3D and Epic Touch 4G both in fact have Rev B compatible chips out of the box. Lets hope this one pan’s out.
UPDATE: After receiving a few emails, we just wanted to stress something. Take all of this as rumor for now until official. You should always do that! Also we stated the Evo 3D and Epic Touch 4G will work if this all pans out, but its absolutely possible many other phones will. We only can confirm those two.
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Source: UPDATE: Sprint Upgrading Existing 3G Coverage Area To EvDO Rev B October 7th? – GizmoFusion
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Not all current phones support EVDO Rev B, but we do know at a minimum the Evo 3D and Epic Touch 4G both in fact have Rev B compatible chips out of the box. Lets hope this one pan’s out.]
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[citation needed]
inb4 ****storm
daneurysm said:
[citation needed]
inb4 ****storm
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inb4 ****storm+1 LMFAO!!!
Maybe if everyone in that other thread contacts gizmo they will cite their source.
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[citation needed]
inb4 ****storm
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You took the workds right out of my mouth.
Good one sir, good one.
This is old
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This is old
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To everyone except Samsung?
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Man I hope its true for the epic touch cause it feels like the sprint network is getting worse by the day.
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This was the article, followed by the iFixit tear down that started all this crap in the first place. I never got an email back from Bryan though. Shocker I know.
Yeah sprints network is getting worse by the day. I used to get 1 megs Down on 3g a year ago when I first got my epic. Now on going about 300-400 kbps on my original epic and my epic touch. It seems so slow.
The Evo3D Killer!!!
Seems like more and more people near you have sprint now lol
Samsung Galaxy S Dos indeed
musclehead84 said:
Yeah sprints network is getting worse by the day. I used to get 1 megs Down on 3g a year ago when I first got my epic. Now on going about 300-400 kbps on my original epic and my epic touch. It seems so slow.
The Evo3D Killer!!!
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I bet your neighbor is using tethering and downloading torrents just to see how much data he can use in a month.
This could very well be possible. I have heard that this is actually why Epic 4G Touch users have been suffering from the dropped voice/data, because Sprint has begun updating their towers. I heard this I believe it was on the Android Central forums by someone from Sprint. I'm too lazy to try to find it but it was a topic regarding the random radio drops on the E4GT. I thought the rep was referring to LTE upgrades but it might also be Rev B. I know they are killing off IDEN next year so who knows.. Sprint doesn't even know what they are doing half of the time.
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I bet your neighbor is using tethering and downloading torrents just to see how much data he can use in a month.
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Nerdy ass xda members ****ing up the network doing that dumb ****, smh
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My data usage sucks during the day. Just more people on the network LOL.
3AM data speeds (home) are about 800-1000Kb/sec
3PM data speeds (home) are about 90-240Kb/sec
4AM data speeds (at work / airport) are abut 800-1100Kb
2PM data speeds (at work / airport) are still about 500-900kb)
Where I live at home there are about 200 buildings all like 20+ floors in probably a mile radius. Wifi channels are cramped so I tend to run my wifi routers at the end of the channel spectrum since most people by default are killing channel 6.
It's really a tower to population issue.

So are our phones LTE capable???

I was told by a sprint employee they were, then here that they're not. Then I see this in a thread...
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Same issue in Houston two days ago. Wife's Evo 4G had no issues connecting right next to me so I knew it wasn't a tower issue, but my phone or the plan. Called Sprint and talked to three people. The last person I got was in the 4G department. They found that the system is going through upgrades right now for LTE, but he would not elaberate due to privacy concerns... or something like that. He said that my phone had been removed from the Wimax channel to the LTE channel. Since that happened the towers were ignoring my request for an IP. He said the phone is either setup for Wimax or LTE but not for both. 0_o So I asked him how to setup the phone for LTE and he said "there is no need yet since LTE is not open to the public, but only in the testing phase" So I asked... exactly "So can I call back and have my phone switched from Wimax to LTE when LTE is opened up to the public in Houston?" He said "Yes"?!?!?!?!
What does that mean??? He knows all about my phone and what it can do so why did he say that?
Also he mentioned that this seems to be happening to all Epic 4G Touch phones since they are listed in the Sprint system as LTE capable. So that is why people in Q1/Q2 LTE area's are having the issue.
Call sprint and get the 4G people on the phone to reprop your phone from LTE channel back to Wimax.
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Caulkins E4GT GB 2.9.2 bare ROM, FB27 modem, rogue gunslinger kernel on one EPIC beast of a phone.
No.
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No they are not. Do not always listen to a Sprint employee 90% of them are flat out stupid. We will not have LTE support. There IS however a SPH-L710 that passed WiFi certs a few weeks back. My guess is that it's the SGS2 but with LTE support and WiMax removed.
Asking a Sprint call center employee to explain or elaborate on a technical detail of their network is like asking a McDonalds counter person to explain how they raised their cows.
They'll give you their 4th grade education mixed with overheard and misunderstood watercooler rumor as fact. "Could you turn off your phone, and pull out the battery? Now restart it! See its fixed, just like our network! Thanks for calling Sprint! Is there anything I can do for you?"***
Oh, btw, if for some reason our phones were capable, it would have been a selling point since release. So, sadly, no.
And if you google it, there are some people talking about tear-downs, and the visible chips, and how those chips are not LTE capable....
(*** btw, not a Sprint hater. Or even a Sprint employee hater. just a call-center, script-reading, poor misinformed souls hater. please don't attempt to answer my question if you don't actually know the answer just to boost your solution resolution percentages)
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I was told by a sprint employee they were, then here that they're not.
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In my limited dealings with sprint cs, they aren't the brightest.
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"So can I call back and have my phone switched from Wimax to LTE when LTE is opened up to the public in Houston?" He said "Yes"?!?!?!?!
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When it's worded that way, the guy probably thought he was asking if he can switch to an LTE capable phone. If current Wimax phones only needed a firmware update to work on LTE, Sprint would be doing some good PR work so everyone knew it.
There's a reason the G-Nex is advertised as "Sprints first LTE phone"
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I LOL'ed when I saw that hahaha
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When it's worded that way, the guy probably thought he was asking if he can switch to an LTE capable phone. If current Wimax phones only needed a firmware update to work on LTE, Sprint would be doing some good PR work so everyone knew it.
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I agree I assumed he was implying that as well.
It is true though that these phones are not LTE capable.
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The only way this phone is going to get you anywhere near lte is if it breaks and asurion runs out of replacements
Somewhat true
I will look for the Doc about this,but I did read some investor fact sheets for sprint transfer to LTE. The big selling point for big investors to put money into sprints LTE was a wider spectrum that would include the bands needed for wimax phones to receive 4g in a sprint LTE only area.
They use a similar system in France, China and other countries where the gov stepped in and funded a super fast wireless broadband system. Are phones would still not be able to roam on LTE but on Sprints network we would still benefit from LTE.
sprint op are dumb. You need to have an LTE chip for that feature
MvDef said:
I will look for the Doc about this,but I did read some investor fact sheets for sprint transfer to LTE. The big selling point for big investors to put money into sprints LTE was a wider spectrum that would include the bands needed for wimax phones to receive 4g in a sprint LTE only area.
They use a similar system in France, China and other countries where the gov stepped in and funded a super fast wireless broadband system. Are phones would still not be able to roam on LTE but on Sprints network we would still benefit from LTE.
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Would that benefit not come from users going to LTE and getting off (for the most part) of the 3G however. If Sprint is in fact doing things somewhat like Verizon is most 3G data is being offloaded (iirc) to the LTE band which frees up 3G.
cidica said:
Would that benefit not come from users going to LTE and getting off (for the most part) of the 3G however. If Sprint is in fact doing things somewhat like Verizon is most 3G data is being offloaded (iirc) to the LTE band which frees up 3G.
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The way you put it makes it to easy. next time I'm not going ramble on and on.....
Hahaaa
yang704 said:
sprint op are dumb. You need to have an LTE chip for that feature
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Also, having a processor that supports LTE wouldn't hurt.
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[Sprint] LTE Network

UPDATED: POST YOUR SPEEDS HERE! Sprint LTE is live! Post your screenie for all of us not in the initial roll out areas to drool over!
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Has anyone had or seen LTE service with Sprint on their GS3 yet?
Yes, only as they are testing tho. They have not turned them on to us yet. Very Promising!! More info a S4GRU.com.
It's comforting to know that after I receive my 32GB, I will just replace refreshing the myorder site multiple times a day with refreshing the spring coverage map multiple times a day.
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It's comforting to know that after I receive my 32GB, I will just replace refreshing the myorder site multiple times a day with refreshing the spring coverage map multiple times a day.
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Your sick!! lol
Not too long ago I had been seeing several random places popping up with network testing going on happening somewhat frequently, but lately it seems to have gone quiet. Wonder if it's the calm before the storm.
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Those upload speeds look promising. Hopefully once they get LTE up and running smoothly we'll maybe get to see some speeds like these AT&T & T-Mobile guys are posting. :jealous:
EDIT: Case in point:
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Dang.
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I'm surprised there isn't more chatter about Sprint's LTE plans on this forum. I think the success or failure of the NV program will make or break this phone, and Sprint itself. For sure it affects my own decisions about both. The timing will be critical.
p.s. I second the recommendation about the s4gru.com site. It is must reading for anyone who cares about the Sprint rollout, and who wants to make an informed choice. There is also a deep font of knowledge there about RF stuff.
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I'm surprised there isn't more chatter about Sprint's LTE plans on this forum. I think the success or failure of the NV program will make or break this phone, and Sprint itself. For sure it affects my own decisions about both. The timing will be critical.
p.s. I second the recommendation about the s4gru.com site. It is must reading for anyone who cares about the Sprint rollout, and who wants to make an informed choice. There is also a deep font of knowledge there about RF stuff.
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I agree 100%. The rollout of NV & LTE is the crux of Sprint as a network thus far. Def going to be a make or break time for Sprint in the next few quarters, especially with regard to timing. They need to make a significant impact, and soon.
Also, just saw where Buffalo, NY got some love.
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July 15 launch date for Sprint's first LTE markets
Sprint to Unleash the Speed and Power of 4G LTE in Atlanta, Dallas, Houston, Kansas City and San Antonio on July 15
--Sprint press release
Anyone know what to expect as far as battery consumption goes once LTE goes live? Will it be on par with what we see now on 3g or 4g? Better, worse? Ideas?
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It will be the same as 3G. It will switch and run like it too. Just faster. It will be nice. Stronger and at 1900. Nothing like Wimax. They tested out at Alliance in Ft worth. Been playing with it a lot.
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So you're an actual tester?!?
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Just while they had it on. It was up for almost 2 weeks.
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Someone in another thread was talking about Sprint's backhaul revisions & how much difference this was going to make during the rollout. Anyone with some insight in this area care to comment? What can we realistically expect to see?
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Two more weeks til LTEween, LTEween, LTEween. Two more weeks til LTEween. Silver Shamrock!
Also, how are people seeing LTE testing? Did you get into settings and change your network to LTE/CDMA? I don't see an LTE radio option (yet) on my sammy. I'm assuming Sprint will push out some update with their LTE light-up (which is also why I'm holding off with root).
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Looks no better than T-Mobile's HSPA+ network.
oh well, still better than the 0.60 Mbps I'm currently getting in Phoenix =/
caileb said:
Looks no better than T-Mobile's HSPA+ network.
oh well, still better than the 0.60 Mbps I'm currently getting in Phoenix =/
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I'm averaging .2-.3Mbps in hawaii...disppointing. In San Fran when I was on vacation, I was getting 1.2-2Mbps in the Grand Hyatt. It felt like I was back on T-Mobile lol
Sleestax said:
Two more weeks til LTEween, LTEween, LTEween. Two more weeks til LTEween. Silver Shamrock!
Also, how are people seeing LTE testing? Did you get into settings and change your network to LTE/CDMA? I don't see an LTE radio option (yet) on my sammy. I'm assuming Sprint will push out some update with their LTE light-up (which is also why I'm holding off with root).
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Lol @ Silver Shamrock! Once in a while that song'll be going through my head and I'll wonder how it got there. Then it takes me forever to get it out of my head...like now! :banghead:
Not GS3 related, but the EVO LTE shipped with the LTE/CDMA setting enabled so some people with it (or who had it before the GS3) may be able to get the LTE signal in an area that's been going through testing.
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Expect greatness.
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T-Mobile is merging with MetroPCS!!

Well, turns out that rumors of a MetroPCS and T-Mobile merger weren't completely off base. While we wouldn't expect Deutsche Telekom to announce the sale of its US property any time soon, the German giant has confirmed that its holding talks with America's sixth largest mobile operator to combine the two networks. The prospective deal would involve combining the two into a single entity, with Deutsche Telekom as the majority shareholder. Of course there are significant obstacles in the way, including divergent network technologies and distinctly different marketing strategies. This is, of course, just the latest scene in the ongoing piece of corporate theater that almost saw the struggling magenta carrier absorbed by AT&T. We'll of course be following closely to see if such a move would sit a little better with government regulators. The complete statement from Deutsche Telekom confirming the talks is after the break.
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-Engadget
http://www.engadget.com/2012/10/02/deutsche-telekom-mulling-t-mobile-metropcs-marriage/
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-...-said-to-near-deal-with-metropcs-in-u-s-.html
Thoughts???
From Bloomberg
T-Mobile USA, with 33.2 million customers at the end of June, or a third of each of market leaders Verizon Wireless and AT&T, is seeking to stem client losses it has suffered partly because it doesn’t have the rights to sell Apple Inc. (AAPL)’s iPhone.
A combination with Richardson, Texas-based MetroPCS would give T-Mobile USA, with its headquarters in Bellevue, Washington, an additional 9.3 million prepaid customers.
T-Mobile USA, the fourth-largest U.S. carrier, has lost 2.76 million contract customers, or more than 10 percent of its subscriber base, in the eight quarters through June.
Shares of MetroPCS were up 18 percent at $13.54 as of 12:32 p.m. in New York, giving the company a market value of $4.9 billion. Deutsche Telekom closed 1.3 percent higher on the Frankfurt exchange, after surging as much as 4.4 percent. The former German phone monopoly has a market capitalization of 42.1 billion euros ($54.5 billion). Sprint Nextel slumped as much as 7.1 percent in New York.
They gonna merge for 1 year thats what my boss told me ....
Ironically I had JUST heard at work today from someone that late October MetroPCS would be selling the SGS3. I figured he had no idea what he was talking about. About 30 minutes later, I saw this posted on Facebook by Androidandme.
Pretty interesting.
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Ironically I had JUST heard at work today from someone that late October MetroPCS would be selling the SGS3. I figured he had no idea what he was talking about. About 30 minutes later, I saw this posted on Facebook by Androidandme.
Pretty interesting.
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Check their website, they're giving one away. It's on the front page.
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Might explain why the MetroPCS store near my location closed! Drove by saw their sigh was upside down and saw that the store was gutted out!
uoY_redruM said:
Ironically I had JUST heard at work today from someone that late October MetroPCS would be selling the SGS3. I figured he had no idea what he was talking about. About 30 minutes later, I saw this posted on Facebook by Androidandme.
Pretty interesting.
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Couple of weeks ago my boss had a meeting regarding about the GS3 LTE they gonna relase it somewhere before the year is over ...
Makes sense for T-Mobile for a couple of reasons.
1. MetroPCS has quite a bit of PCS (1900 MHz) and AWS (1700 MHz) spectrum, both which are needed by T-Mobile now, especially with the refarming and imminent LTE roll out.
2. MetroPCS' customers are all prepaid, so T-Mobile can eventually wean them off of CDMA phones.
3. MetroPCS has already begun rolling out their LTE network, so it will give T-Mobile a nice boost.
4. Gives T-Mobile about 10 million more customers, something they desperately needed.
Nice to see DT is trying their best to improve T-Mobile and make them competitive. Sad to say (being an Android fan), but the next logical step would be getting a deal done with Apple for the iPhone.
Might take a while. Antitrust laws can be degrimental to their plans
I don't think antitrust will be a problem, this is a lot different than the AT&T merger. The reasons pointed out ^^^^^ are great ones. I think the nearly 10m new users will help bring more services/quality. Looks like tmo is making the right moves, getting a new CEO and now this. It's definitely bad news for sprint/boost/virgin though. If all 5 carriers ended up under the tmo banner that could be pretty awesome :good: Consolidating to less carriers could be bad or good but I think the added competitive strength and compatibilities to take on Verizon and AT&T would be good in the long run.
News like this always excites me because it shows tmo is making big moves. This is much better than them being acquired by some evil giant :laugh:
Mergers always bring higher priceslower competition. Nothing to cheer up.
It is a done deal
They are merging
DONE....
http://www.engadget.com/2012/10/03/deutsche-telekom-and-metropcs-boards-approve-t-mobile-merger/
Both companies have approved a deal. They move fast
I think this move will definitely help with the push for LTE so I'm happy.
I am really glad since I love in a Tmobile and metro PCs area
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http://newsroom.t-mobile.com/articles/t-mobile-metropcs-combine
As long as they keep Carly!
I love T-Mobile!
Thank god the name will stay as T-Mobile and nothing something stupid like MetroMobile.
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They are merging
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You mean they did already. Money paid and working on implementation of both networks as we speak. For those excited for LTE you got your wish it just depends on when their done setting it in stone, they are already testing in 5 states one of which it Texas.
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Some nice slides about how this will improve T-Mobile:
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