Backup without root? - Samsung Epic 4G Touch

So I've been considering rooting my phone, but have been hesitant since we might be getting an ICS OTA update any week now. I was hoping to allay some of these fears by backing up the device before rooting...only to discover that it seems every backup app requires root. This is a lovely little catch 22 that makes me all the more hesitant to root.
Are there any other options?

Well, I think that titanium backup not need the root. (I didnt remember exactly because when I installed it my phone had been rooted before).
You can backup data, settings, app, etc, etc, etc.
There are some phones that have an app that makes backups.
Why dont you try to root your phone? There are a lot of incredibles things that you can do having it rooted.

Aganar said:
So I've been considering rooting my phone, but have been hesitant since we might be getting an ICS OTA update any week now. I was hoping to allay some of these fears by backing up the device before rooting...only to discover that it seems every backup app requires root. This is a lovely little catch 22 that makes me all the more hesitant to root.
Are there any other options?
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Titanium backup definitely requires root...
Are you looking to strictly back-up your apps, or something like a nandroid backup?

Removing root from an otherwise fully stock install is very simple. Root then do a full Nandroid backup and then do whatever you want. If you want to get the OTA at some point simply restore the Nandroid then unroot and you are good to go.
Within a day of the OTA coming out there will be a rooted stock ROM available anyway so not really sure what the issue is.

Mybackup works without root.
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Aganar said:
So I've been considering rooting my phone, but have been hesitant since we might be getting an ICS OTA update any week now. I was hoping to allay some of these fears by backing up the device before rooting...only to discover that it seems every backup app requires root. This is a lovely little catch 22 that makes me all the more hesitant to root.
Are there any other options?
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I surely wouldn't count on a ics ota anytime soon. Coming from the og epic I can tell you for sure that sprint + Samsung = don't hold your breath for a ota, even if it has been promised. Go ahead and root. Add has been stated mybackup will work without root. I suggest trying calks ROM, rock solid stable and great battery life.
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doesn't sfhub have an autoroot package for el29 that preserves data?and its not the root that makes ota fail. its the addition of cwm in the kernel as ota needs stock recovery to update. what you could do is use the auto root and backup using titanium backup. then if you want a nandroid also you can flash a rogue kernel. like gunslinger. nandroid. then flash the stock kernel from calkulins thread that has the el29 rom in it. not his normal one. I will link to it when I get home
here is the place you can grab an el29 stock kernel with no clockworkmod.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1429243
here is where you will find an autoroot for your rom. choose the one that preserves data.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1342728

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Making a backup before getting a new phone

I'm about to take my phone down to sprint for a blown speaker, I'm worried they might replace it. I'd like to make a full nandroid backup just in case, and then just restore it on the new phone if that happens. Is this possible?
9kracing said:
I'm about to take my phone down to sprint for a blown speaker, I'm worried they might replace it. I'd like to make a full nandroid backup just in case, and then just restore it on the new phone if that happens. Is this possible?
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It is if you are rooted. If sprint sees that your phone doesn't have the stock recovery they will probably not replace your phone; as when you root you void your warranty.
So if you are you might want to nandroid backup and then odin EC05 or DI18 and then OTA to EC05. Then root the new replacement and restore nandroid.
if not rooted:
You can use an app like MyBackup Pro; its a paid app but you can try it for like 30 days, so you can backup your apps and data, keep the SD Card and put it in the replacement (your photos are on it as well). Then on the replacement; download the app again and restore.
Hope that helps and good luck at sprint
9kracing said:
I'm about to take my phone down to sprint for a blown speaker, I'm worried they might replace it. I'd like to make a full nandroid backup just in case, and then just restore it on the new phone if that happens. Is this possible?
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Check out App Brain also. Some file managers let you backup apps to the SD card but that is not much different than just redownloading them from the market.
Other than MyBackup and App Brain like mentioned above, you would need to root for many more options then unroot to return your phone.
Ya, I planned on Odin'ing before I take it in, but I was hoping I didn't have to go through the trouble of rooting, flashing roms, kernals, themes, sd speed fixes, etc when I get a new one. I have my backup pro, but it wont restore anything besides my apps and data correct?
9kracing said:
Ya, I planned on Odin'ing before I take it in, but I was hoping I didn't have to go through the trouble of rooting, flashing roms, kernals, themes, sd speed fixes, etc when I get a new one. I have my backup pro, but it wont restore anything besides my apps and data correct?
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Right MyBackup pro will only do call logs, texts, apps and their data.
You can do a nandroid backup before you odin back to stock, that is saved in a folder called clockworkmod/backup. as long as you keep your sd card; when you re-root your replacement you should be able to boot to recovery and restore
Use MyBackup ROOT. It's free on the Market and can back up and restore just about everything, although it's not a total image like Nandroid.
just a quick question:
how do you ota back to ec05 after odin-ing back to..well ec05? Im new to rooting etc. thanks.
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jdelano said:
Right MyBackup pro will only do call logs, texts, apps and their data.
You can do a nandroid backup before you odin back to stock, that is saved in a folder called clockworkmod/backup. as long as you keep your sd card; when you re-root your replacement you should be able to boot to recovery and restore
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awesome that's exactly what I wanted to hear
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You may have an MD5 mismatch, if that is the case make a nand backup on the new phone then take the MD5 file and paste it into the older backup.
I reccomond titanium backup
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063_XOBX said:
You may have an MD5 mismatch, if that is the case make a nand backup on the new phone then take the MD5 file and paste it into the older backup.
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Heh, I had a feeling it wasn't going to be that easy. If I have to start mounting the phone to pull off backups, modify them, do a new backup, etc... I might as well just flash the ROM, Kenel and theme lol. Ah well, I was hoping it would be as easy as restoring a nandroid backup once I rooted.
Thanks for the help guys.
Do the nandroid backup. Move that folder to a location on your pc (or keep your sd card). If you do get a replacement, you just have to do the one-click root w/ cwm. Odin to the appropriate froyo for your rom, then restore. Shouldn't take more than 10 minutes
taekwondo4ever said:
just a quick question:
how do you ota back to ec05 after odin-ing back to..well ec05? Im new to rooting etc. thanks.
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First: Not possible, you can't "update" to the same version you are already on, you have to odin to Di18.
Second: If you dont even know the answer to this, seemingly simple, question, why are you rooted?
Sent from my always stock, EC05 Epic 4G
Thanks.
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[Q] Backing up and Restoring

I have to go into the sprint store to fix my headphone jack. I know I have to unroot my phone. But if I backup my phone using nandroid before I unroot it, can I root my phone after I get my problem solved and restore that backup? A fast answer will really be appreciated. I'm in a hurry to fix this.
kkc6196 said:
I have to go into the sprint store to fix my headphone jack. I know I have to unroot my phone. But if I backup my phone using nandroid before I unroot it, can I root my phone after I get my problem solved and restore that backup? A fast answer will really be appreciated. I'm in a hurry to fix this.
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Sure you can. Either just leave it on your sd card, or copy it to your HD on your computer. Then restore as you normally would.
go into your files folder and click on cwm recovery, see if you see the nandroid backup. and at the top, it should say "/sdcard/. that means the nandroid is on your sdcard
Thank you.
I know this sounds like a dumb question, but can I have multiple Nandroid backups in my CWM folder? In other words my current Nandroid is of my stock, rooted EL30 ODEX backup. Now I'm running FC09 DEODEX ROM, stock, but I would like to have a backup of it too...
Yes you can.
rando991 said:
I know this sounds like a dumb question, but can I have multiple Nandroid backups in my CWM folder? In other words my current Nandroid is of my stock, rooted EL30 ODEX backup. Now I'm running FC09 DEODEX ROM, stock, but I would like to have a backup of it too...
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Each nandroid is automatically named according to date so you should be able to differentiate pretty quickly what is what. Just learned about this over the weekend when I did my first restore.
i am also on FC09 deodex, but im having problems with rom manager creating a recovery? is there anything i need to do specifically instead of rom manager?
While we're on this topic, I noticed I'd been losing a good bit of space on my sdcard after all this rooting and whatnot (finally took the leap last week). I now have CM9 RC1 and 2 on the card, as well as a few nightlies. Is it cool to delete some of these and keep the current and/or second to last file?
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While we're on this topic, I noticed I'd been losing a good bit of space on my sdcard after all this rooting and whatnot (finally took the leap last week). I now have CM9 RC1 and 2 on the card, as well as a few nightlies. Is it cool to delete some of these and keep the current and/or second to last file?
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That's exactly what I do.
That s what I do usually
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Help!!!!!! Stock Root, Now No Status Bar, Also Cant.....

Hey XDA friends...seriously over my head noob here, I performed the Odin One Click stock root posted on You Tube by QbKing last week. Maybe two days ago, I lost my status/notification bar as well as the ability to answer phone calls. i can make them tho. Also, my home screen icons are dissappering randomly (possibly only at reboot, I'll have to check on that). This all occurred it seems, when Titanium B/U prompted me to save certain apps to SD. Please help me and i will promise not to ever again take you alls training and long hours learning your craft lighty again! Thx.
Did you keep your data? If so the best way is a totally clean install. Give it another shot.
Thanks
I did in fact do a "save data root", and I'm embarrassed to say, how might I go about performing a clean install, and would I have root privileges after, and finally, any tips or advice on how one might avoid this type of thing in the future? Thank you for taking some of your time to guide the blind and aimless
WtfAndroiD007 said:
...I performed the Odin One Click stock root posted on You Tube by QbKing last week...
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Cause I'm lazy and don't want to hunt though QB's videos..
Which One Click did you use?..
WtfAndroiD007 said:
Hey XDA friends...seriously over my head noob here, I performed the Odin One Click stock root posted on You Tube by QbKing last week. Maybe two days ago, I lost my status/notification bar as well as the ability to answer phone calls. i can make them tho. Also, my home screen icons are dissappering randomly (possibly only at reboot, I'll have to check on that). This all occurred it seems, when Titanium B/U prompted me to save certain apps to SD. Please help me and i will promise not to ever again take you alls training and long hours learning your craft lighty again! Thx.
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re download the one click, making sure it is ff18 or el29 depending on whether you want gb or ics, then reflash it in odin using the same video as a guide. Weird you lost that status bar though, usually it won't boot if you had a bad download. I suspect with titanium backup you restored a gingerbread launcher on an ics rom or vice versa. Avoid restoring apps from titanium unless you know what you are doing would be my advice.
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MoHoGalore said:
Cause I'm lazy and don't want to hunt though QB's videos..
Which One Click did you use?..
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The Stock to Stock w/root for EL29 the save data version, that help?
WtfAndroiD007 said:
The Stock to Stock w/root for EL29 the save data version, that help?
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No, you don't want to save data
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kingsway8605 said:
re download the one click, making sure it is ff18 or el29 depending on whether you want gb or ics, then reflash it in odin using the sake video as a guide. Weird you lost that status bar though, usually it won't boot if you had a bad download. I suspect with titanium backup you restored a gingerbread launcher on an ics rom or vice versa. Avoid restoring apps from titanium unless you know what you are doing would be my advice.
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Thx for that info cuz I was doing just that.... attempting to restore certain back ups, one being the stock launcher. So are you suggesting a complete wipe and then download and reflash the one click? Honestly, the reason I orginally decided on the root option is sorta of dumb I suppose. I was sure that my ex had installed spyware on my phone and saw root as the only viable option for discovery, I actually like the stock rom and initially really liked the stock w/root. Obiviously I have a lot to learn...and express my genuine appreciation for knowlegdeable people such as yourself for helping me pull my head out my ass inch by inch.:
WtfAndroiD007 said:
I did in fact do a "save data root", and I'm embarrassed to say, how might I go about performing a clean install, and would I have root privileges after, and finally, any tips or advice on how one might avoid this type of thing in the future? Thank you for taking some of your time to guide the blind and aimless
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Here you go http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1721229
Then Install this one
2) Download the FF18 full restore One-Click self-extractor
SPH-D710.FF18_CL663858_ROOTED-oc-sfx.exe [Mirror1 / Mirror2] (RESET user data)
[MD5: 16c7d577feda23d1f4deb448d6453735 / Size: 311,608,965]
Also if you have access to a wifi connection or good 4g speeds I would recommend downloading all of your apps again and truly starting from scratch. It should take about an hour to do it all assuming you dont have hundreds of apps.
Just sync your phone now, do the one click, after boot update profile and prl then sign into google account and resync then start setting up apps. This is when you decide if you really need all the crap you previously had on your phone.
kingsway8605 said:
re download the one click, making sure it is ff18 or el29 depending on whether you want gb or ics, then reflash it in odin using the same video as a guide. Weird you lost that status bar though, usually it won't boot if you had a bad download. I suspect with titanium backup you restored a gingerbread launcher on an ics rom or vice versa. Avoid restoring apps from titanium unless you know what you are doing would be my advice.
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also, not sure if i mentioned that initially all functions were operational after ROM flash....it was only after I got to jacking with stuff, did that happen. Oh yeah, also have had a few soft resets occur ass well.
Here, enter the link below in your url bar (assuming you are on Windows). It is sfhub's one click. Just click the file after it downloads and flash it.
http://little-melon.com/sfhub/SPH-D710.FF18_CL663858_ROOTED-oc-sfx.exe
Be sure to go to the thread and thank him, just posted the link so you would have the right one.
Word of warning, you are going to lose your apps and will have re download them. If the phone doesn't boot after flashing it, re download again because you simply had a bad download.
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someguyatx said:
Here you go http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1721229
Then Install this one
2) Download the FF18 full restore One-Click self-extractor
SPH-D710.FF18_CL663858_ROOTED-oc-sfx.exe [Mirror1 / Mirror2] (RESET user data)
[MD5: 16c7d577feda23d1f4deb448d6453735 / Size: 311,608,965]
Also if you have access to a wifi connection or good 4g speeds I would recommend downloading all of your apps again and truly starting from scratch. It should take about an hour to do it all assuming you dont have hundreds of apps.
Just sync your phone now, do the one click, after boot update profile and prl then sign into google account and resync then start setting up apps. This is when you decide if you really need all the crap you previously had on your phone.
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Thx....one question. I've read threads, albiet, not really any thing current (like late 2011), expressing bricking issues upgrading from GB to ICS. Should I not stick with GB? Or m I already on ICS? Is the Build no. on my "About Phone" list accurate or does it not recognize modifications?
WtfAndroiD007 said:
Thx....one question. I've read threads, albiet, not really any thing current (like late 2011), expressing bricking issues upgrading from GB to ICS. Should I not stick with GB? Or m I already on ICS? Is the Build no. on my "About Phone" list accurate or does it not recognize modifications?
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The link I posted will give you stock rooted ICS. Flashing through odin isn't very dangerous as long as you don't touch your phone while doing it and only flash the file I linked to. And don't restore any titanium backup apps this time unless you can differentiate system apps from store apps.
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kingsway8605 said:
The link I posted will give you stock rooted ICS. Flashing through odin isn't very dangerous as long as you don't touch your phone while doing it and only flash the file I linked to. And don't restore any titanium backup apps this time unless you can differentiate system apps from store apps.
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I will heed your advice. Thx again
With restoring your apps. In titanium back up, hit restore missing apps. Then before you hit restore make sure restore only apps not apps+data. This way its only the apps you have downloaded and they are fresh.
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Also dont flash anything from the recovery included with stock rom. Use this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1767421 or some other safe kernel
g_ding84 said:
With restoring your apps. In titanium back up, hit restore missing apps. Then before you hit restore make sure restore only apps not apps+data. This way its only the apps you have downloaded and they are fresh.
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Don't think this is accurate. It will restore any apps that have backups.
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someguyatx said:
Also dont flash anything from the recovery included with stock rom. Use this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1767421 or some other safe kernel
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I don't think he/she is ready for custom kernels and roms yet, play around with just root first.
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It sounds to me like when you used TiBu to move apps to SD you accidently moved system apps including the systemui.apk and dialer and/or contacts possibly. When moving apps to SD thru TiBu never move apks in red, also never restore those apps or their data if you switch to a different rom version
We are legion, for we are many.
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g_ding84 said:
With restoring your apps. In titanium back up, hit restore missing apps. Then before you hit restore make sure restore only apps not apps+data. This way its only the apps you have downloaded and they are fresh.
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Ah....which is the logical approach in hind sight, thank you for preventing the same from reoccurring AGAIN! You guys are a life saver.....well once again, you guys are life saver, well at the very least, a smartphone saver! Cuz this one has come very close to being spiked like a game winning touchdown more than once. Though I'm well aware who is responsible for its problems. I'm so glad to have checked back before starting over and have since "read the effing manual" on TBU and with your expert advice, I may even be able to salvage what little of my sanity I still possess. Keep the info coming if you've remembered anything else I might be missing or overlooking. Thanks again for your time....as a father of two teenage boys and too many hobbies, I well appreciate how valuable a commodity time is.

[Q] Need some help unrooting my phone

I rooted my phone back in January because I wanted to try out some of the different ROMs, but I never found anything that was as trouble-free as stock. Now I'm having trouble getting the OTA updates to work, and I'm looking to just go back to stock and reset my counter just in case I need to return the phone. What I'm worried about is losing all of my application data and settings and having to reinstall and set everything up again. Is there a way to do a complete reset but keep all my stuff? Every guide I've seen requires a factory reset at some point, and if I'm not rooted I won't be able to use TB to restore my apps.
Do I just need to grit my teeth and spend the few hours setting everything back up and losing all my app data?
ChefJ said:
I rooted my phone back in January because I wanted to try out some of the different ROMs, but I never found anything that was as trouble-free as stock. Now I'm having trouble getting the OTA updates to work, and I'm looking to just go back to stock and reset my counter just in case I need to return the phone. What I'm worried about is losing all of my application data and settings and having to reinstall and set everything up again. Is there a way to do a complete reset but keep all my stuff? Every guide I've seen requires a factory reset at some point, and if I'm not rooted I won't be able to use TB to restore my apps.
Do I just need to grit my teeth and spend the few hours setting everything back up and losing all my app data?
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since your rooted now you can backup but your right without root you cant restore..........grit them teeth boy!!!
hapticxchaos said:
since your rooted now you can backup but your right without root you cant restore..........grit them teeth boy!!!
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Backup with titanium.
Flash stock firmware from sammy with odin.
Use cf autoroot to root.
Use tibu to restore.
Unroot with SU app
Profit
Also I think koush developed an app to backup that doesnt need root.
Edit: here https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.koushikdutta.backup
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cdshepherd said:
Backup with titanium.
Flash stock firmware from sammy with odin.
Use cf autoroot to root.
Use tibu to restore.
Unroot with SU app
Profit
Also I think koush developed an app to backup that doesnt need root.
Edit: here https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.koushikdutta.backup
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That makes perfect sense. Do you know if that would mess with the OTA updates after unrooting? I want to make sure my phone is in returnable condition after it's all said and done (triangle-away'd and everything).
ChefJ said:
That makes perfect sense. Do you know if that would mess with the OTA updates after unrooting? I want to make sure my phone is in returnable condition after it's all said and done (triangle-away'd and everything).
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Use triangle away before unrooting with SU. Wipe data/factory reset after unrooting. Then restore apps/data with koushs app (link above)
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cdshepherd said:
Use triangle away before unrooting with SU. Wipe data/factory reset after unrooting. Then restore apps/data with koushs app (link above)
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I was originally on a stock ROM (it was my nandroid backup from when I was trying out new ones), but I could never get the status back to original. I tried a factory reset, and that didn't do the trick (updates still wouldn't load), so I used Odin to flash the original stock ROM. I made sure to backup my apps with Helium, then restored them all after going through the whole setup/download process. Everything seems to be working fine, and I was able to get the multi-window update, but I can't see if the current update will work yet (I still have to wait 24 hours).
So in the end I didn't have to unroot or triangle away (at least not any further than I already did).
ChefJ said:
I was originally on a stock ROM (it was my nandroid backup from when I was trying out new ones), but I could never get the status back to original. I tried a factory reset, and that didn't do the trick (updates still wouldn't load), so I used Odin to flash the original stock ROM. I made sure to backup my apps with Helium, then restored them all after going through the whole setup/download process. Everything seems to be working fine, and I was able to get the multi-window update, but I can't see if the current update will work yet (I still have to wait 24 hours).
So in the end I didn't have to unroot or triangle away (at least not any further than I already did).
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If you already received one OTA you can receive any OTA
You can disable network provided values and manually change the date one day ahead. Then you can check for updates again.
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[Q] Can I root my phone with these prefrences?

Hello!
I am HeroCC, this is my first post, so please don't go hard on me.
I may root my android AT&T S3. But before I do, I want to make sure it is safe, and it fits my specifications.
First of all, I want to know how to do it. If you know a decent tutorial about this, please send it my way.
I have heard about clockwork mod, and was wondering if that is a good choice for a root ROM.
Here is my list:
Does not remove any data
I have a 100% backup before
I can Undo at any time, and I will still have all app data, but not rooted*
It does not trip the flash counter
I still have all the stock apps. (Kies air, AT&T Locker, etc.)
I will add more when I think of some. Thanks for any help!
If you find something that does not fit one of these, reply anyway. Some of these I can do without.
*For example, if I am at level 5 now, and get to level 50 in candy crush, and need to unroot, I will still be at level 50 after.
Thank you for your Help!
There are at least three different ways to root this phone, with; casual, cf-auto root, or by flashing TWRP or CWM recovery through Odin and then supersu.zip. I'm not going to recommend one root method here because someone else will just recommend the other and confuse things.
You are likely going to trip the flash counter no matter what you do, but you can reset it to zero whenever you want with an app called triangle away.
Also, you will need the app titanium backup to backup your apps and settings, so if you unroot or factory reset, you can restore them without losing your data.
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shortydoggg said:
There are at least three different ways to root this phone, with; casual, cf-auto root, or by flashing TWRP or CWM recovery through Odin and then supersu.zip. I'm not going to recommend one root method here because someone else will just recommend the other and confuse things.
You are likely going to trip the flash counter no matter what you do, but you can reset it to zero whenever you want with an app called triangle away.
Also, you will need the app titanium backup to backup your apps and settings, so if you unroot or factory reset, you can restore them without losing your data.
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Just a note, backing up and restoring with titanium backup ONLY works with root. Say you backup while rooted, unroot, then find missing data, you can't restore the titanium backup since no root anymore..
shortydoggg said:
There are at least three different ways to root this phone, with; casual, cf-auto root, or by flashing TWRP or CWM recovery through Odin and then supersu.zip. I'm not going to recommend one root method here because someone else will just recommend the other and confuse things.
You are likely going to trip the flash counter no matter what you do, but you can reset it to zero whenever you want with an app called triangle away.
Also, you will need the app titanium backup to backup your apps and settings, so if you unroot or factory reset, you can restore them without losing your data.
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OK, thanks. Using these methods, what one does not require you to do a factory reset? And is there a way to completely backup my phone before I root? Thanks for the info!
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HeroCC said:
OK, thanks. Using these methods, what one does not require you to do a factory reset? And is there a way to completely backup my phone before I root? Thanks for the info!
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None of them require a factory reset.
Technically, modifying the phone's software in any way can void your warranty, and technically you are not rooted until you have modified the phone to obtain superuser permissions through the operating system. I'm assuming that you want a backup before obtaining superuser permissions, or rooting. The only way would be to flash a custom recovery through Odin, which also modifies the phone and trips its flash counter, which signals that you modified something and still voids your warranty. That flash counter can be reset later, however.
So to answer your second question;
Can you make a backup of your phone before rooting? Technically, Yes.
But can you make a backup of your whole phone without modifying the phone in any way and possibly endangering your warranty? No.
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shortydoggg said:
None of them require a factory reset.
Technically, modifying the phone's software in any way can void your warranty, and technically you are not rooted until you have modified the phone to obtain superuser permissions through the operating system. I'm assuming that you want a backup before obtaining superuser permissions, or rooting. The only way would be to flash a custom recovery through Odin, which also modifies the phone and trips its flash counter, which signals that you modified something and still voids your warranty. That flash counter can be reset later, however.
So to answer your second question;
Can you make a backup of your phone before rooting? Technically, Yes.
But can you make a backup of your whole phone without modifying the phone in any way and possibly endangering your warranty? No.
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OK. Thanks. This is what I needed. I will now list my plan of action. Let me know it you think it is good! My device is the Galaxy s3 ATT. I just realized that my warranty expires in December. I thought it already had, so I am going to wait until it is done. This is what I am going to do in December.
1. Download Rom Manager
2. Use Carbon/ Helium to backup.
3. Use ROM Manager to install ClockWork mod Recovery.
4. Perform Nandroid backup.
5. (Optional) install CyanogenMod.
I will add more as I think of them. And all of the above will work without a factory reset? Thanks!
Unrelated: Is there a z4mod for my phone? I saw it had temp root and may use that to use titanium backup before I start this.
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HeroCC said:
OK. Thanks. This is what I needed. I will now list my plan of action. Let me know it you think it is good! My device is the Galaxy s3 ATT. I just realized that my warranty expires in December. I thought it already had, so I am going to wait until it is done. This is what I am going to do in December.
1. Download Rom Manager
2. Use Carbon/ Helium to backup.
3. Use ROM Manager to install ClockWork mod Recovery.
4. Perform Nandroid backup.
5. (Optional) install CyanogenMod.
I will add more as I think of them. And all of the above will work without a factory reset? Thanks!
Unrelated: Is there a z4mod for my phone? I saw it had temp root and may use that to use titanium backup before I start this.
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If you are not rooted you will not be able to use ROM manager or any other app to install a custom recovery. You need to use ODIN to achieve this without root. Since you are on Jellybean most likely, going into a custom recovery will trip your counter no matter what. I would highly recommend using CF auto root to root since you lose no data. It will trip your counter but this is likely to happen no matter what you do.
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You can easily root your phone without tripping your counter. There are so many parts on this, and exactly what you're talking about. Just read the forum posts and everything is answered.
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