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Changing roms

I tried searching for this, but the app seems to have some limitations. Please forgive if this is a repost. I have been on my 3rd rom for 2 weeks now but want to check out another new release. Long story short, I don't want to lose anything installed or subsequent app data. How can I back up and restore all of the non-rom data and have all of the new goodies of the new rom laid on top of the great app/personal data/settings?
Is this a dumb question?
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tpike said:
I tried searching for this, but the app seems to have some limitations. Please forgive if this is a repost. I have been on my 3rd rom for 2 weeks now but want to check out another new release. Long story short, I don't want to lose anything installed or subsequent app data. How can I back up and restore all of the non-rom data and have all of the new goodies of the new rom laid on top of the great app/personal data/settings?
Is this a dumb question?
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titan backup is one of the most used backup apps i have read about on here
EDIT: brain fart: Titanium not Titan ... uhg, sorry about that. Luckily xbox posted too.

tpike said:
I tried searching for this, but the app seems to have some limitations. Please forgive if this is a repost. I have been on my 3rd rom for 2 weeks now but want to check out another new release. Long story short, I don't want to lose anything installed or subsequent app data. How can I back up and restore all of the non-rom data and have all of the new goodies of the new rom laid on top of the great app/personal data/settings?
Titanium Backup
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Thanks both for feedback. So I can back up on titanium to sd then wipe all the cache etc, flash new rom, restore?
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This is a fool proof list:
1. Titanium Backup all apps and data
2. Boot into clockworkmod and wipe data 3x
3. Flash new rom
4. Download titanium backup from market and install backups.

Thank you good sir.
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Just out of curiosity, as long as you wipe the three things in recovery, will restoring old data on top of a new ROM from TitaniumBackup ever cause problems?
I've heard some people recommend not doing that, but never really gave any explanation.

Installing from titanium backup won't cause problems as long as you don't mess with system apps.

063_XOBX said:
Installing from titanium backup won't cause problems as long as you don't mess with system apps.
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Cool, thanks.

Flashing Inquiry

Hey all, long time no talk.
I noticed everytime a new ROM comes out you guys are always flashing. Is there an easy way to flash without having to "re-install" everything and keeping your screens the way they were previously? Or there is no simple solution?
Mike

Generally not really. If its a minor update for a current Rom u don't always have to erase everything but generally u will have to start from scratch. That's always the best bet for squashing bugs ect
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mrw5641 said:
Hey all, long time no talk.
I noticed everytime a new ROM comes out you guys are always flashing. Is there an easy way to flash without having to "re-install" everything and keeping your screens the way they were previously? Or there is no simple solution?
Mike
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You can always use titanium backup to reinstall apps, I'd definitely recommend dropping a few bucks on the paid version for no click restores. If it's an update to a rom I'm already running, I usually just wipe cache and dalvik before flashing, but you should always wipe before flashing a different rom.
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Excellent that is what I had figured. I just had noticed some guys flashing everytime a new rom comes out, that has to be a pain in the a**. But I have been using Astro to back up everything.
Thanks guys

mrw5641 said:
Excellent that is what I had figured. I just had noticed some guys flashing everytime a new rom comes out, that has to be a pain in the a**. But I have been using Astro to back up everything.
Thanks guys
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Titanium is a great ap. I have noticed that restoring aps with it can cause some issues and slowdowns. I always used titanium but now I prefer a fresh install. When u log into your gmail account u can set it to automatically restore your previous aps also when you look at the "my aps" section you can slide to the right and look at all aps you had ever downloaded.
Good luck, have fun and follow the roms specific instructions!
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jman42028 said:
Titanium is a great ap. I have noticed that restoring aps with it can cause some issues and slowdowns. I always used titanium but now I prefer a fresh install. When u log into your gmail account u can set it to automatically restore your previous aps also when you look at the "my aps" section you can slide to the right and look at all aps you had ever downloaded.
Good luck, have fun and follow the roms specific instructions!
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I'm with you. I used TiBu a couple of times, but had random crashes and stuff.
I do the full wipe now, every time. Stability is worth the trade-off of reinstalling everything

Titanium can be buggy at times but I use the heck out if it... I make a backup of xyz rom and rename it, then switch roms. Set everything up (if it's new to me) and backup/rename. For example I have titanium backupUKB, titanium backupCM9 and titanium backupSRZ all on my SD card...
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I have been using GO Backup instead of Titanium lately and it is pretty good. You can restore all your backed up apps with one click; it only backs up user apps. It also can backup your messages and wifi access points if you backup that kind of stuff, and most of all it's free. I definitely recomend you try it out.
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juzz86 said:
I'm with you. I used TiBu a couple of times, but had random crashes and stuff.
I do the full wipe now, every time. Stability is worth the trade-off of reinstalling everything
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I only restore the user apps using Titanium Backup. I believe that should technically not cause any problems. Well I am glad it didn't the few times I did use it, so far.

from 4.0.4 to 4.1 + TitatiumBackup

Hi,
I am on 4.0.4 and I regurarly backup with Titaniumbackup both apps and system data.
If I manually update to 4.1 (which means a total factory reset of the phone) will I be able to import back the above backups and get the phone as it was before the upgrade.
I am not really worried about the apps but about the system data, as they may have changed.
Thanks

You can restore apps and user data. Do not restore system data.

consultant.ben said:
You can restore apps and user data. Do not restore system data.
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well then I'm gonna wait for official JB OTA... Don't wanna spend another 2 hours re-configuring my phone :-(
btw, any official root method for JB, just to prepare in advance... I have Voodo OTA rootKeeper but not sure if it'll work...

If you're using titanium backup with encrypted stuff, you'll have to wait for a jb update.
Also, if you're trying to uninstall anything from /system/app/ you'll also have to wait for a jb update for titanium backup.
Supposedly basic backup and restore of tb is working.
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thegios said:
well then I'm gonna wait for official JB OTA... Don't wanna spend another 2 hours re-configuring my phone :-(
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What takes 2 hours to configure?? Email accounts and settings, WiFi settings, BT settings, etc, are all downloaded once you sign into your Google account. If you use a third-party sound manager, alarm clock and launcher, all those settings would be restored when you restore from Titanium. What else is left??
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efrant said:
What takes 2 hours to configure?? Email accounts and settings, WiFi settings, BT settings, etc, are all downloaded once you sign into your Google account. If you use a third-party sound manager, alarm clock and launcher, all those settings would be restored when you restore from Titanium. What else is left??
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well upgrade + restore + some configurations that cannot be backedup (home screen icons placement, alarms, etc.) may take up to a couple of hours...
pls, I have just realised that the JB rom here on xda is deodexed whioch means no future OTA updates...
I can wait till the official JB OTA, in the meantime the new gnex toolkit compatible with JB will be ready and right after the upgrade in one click I can re-unlock and re-root

thegios said:
well upgrade + restore + some configurations that cannot be backedup (home screen icons placement, alarms, etc.) may take up to a couple of hours...
pls, I have just realised that the JB rom here on xda is deodexed whioch means no future OTA updates...
I can wait till the official JB OTA, in the meantime the new gnex toolkit compatible with JB will be ready and right after the upgrade in one click I can re-unlock and re-root
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1) The ROM here is not deodexed: http://tinyurl.com/JRN84D
2) If you rely on a toolkit to do things for you, you will never learn anything and more importantly, it will make it harder to troubleshoot if you have issues.
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efrant said:
1) The ROM here is not deodexed: http://tinyurl.com/JRN84D
2) If you rely on a toolkit to do things for you, you will never learn anything and more importantly, it will make it harder to troubleshoot if you have issues.
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1] thanks do i still have to install the radio first?
2] I had an HD2 with android before the gnex, so I do know how to do things manually, and my first unlock/root on my gnex I did manually... simply since 1 month I wake up at 6am, commute for 1h, wotk for another 9 hours and then back home at 8pm... so honestly I have no time at all to waste on my phone considering i prefer wasting it with my wife, my bike, my scubadiving, etc... ;-) so yes the toolkit is a timesaver for me ;-)

You really shouldn't ever restore system data. It's just asking for trouble.

thegios said:
1] thanks do i still have to install the radio first?
2] I had an HD2 with android before the gnex, so I do know how to do things manually, and my first unlock/root on my gnex I did manually... simply since 1 month I wake up at 6am, commute for 1h, wotk for another 9 hours and then back home at 8pm... so honestly I have no time at all to waste on my phone considering i prefer wasting it with my wife, my bike, my scubadiving, etc... ;-) so yes the toolkit is a timesaver for me ;-)
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1) Yes, I would. I would also install the bootloader. See the second post of the "flash" link in my signature.
2) I hear ya. But what I was trying to say is that: a) doing it yourself is NOT any slower than a toolkit if you know what you are doing, and b) it will be faster to fix (in the event of any issues) if you don't use a toolkit.
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efrant said:
1) Yes, I would. I would also install the bootloader. See the second post of the "flash" link in my signature.
2) I hear ya. But what I was trying to say is that: a) doing it yourself is NOT any slower than a toolkit if you know what you are doing, and b) it will be faster to fix (in the event of any issues) if you don't use a toolkit.
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btw, I am rooted and i have CWM installed: does it mean that with CWM i won't get the OTA?

I can confirm that restoring system data from 4.0.4 to 4.1 will not work fully. I did that last week and google now wasn't working properly, and there were some syncing issues with other applications (grey wifi and data bars)
I also don't think its that much of a hassle to have to re-setup stuff. Each time you do it, it gets quicker . Plus sometimes I make improvements to homescreen/widget setup.

thegios said:
btw, I am rooted and i have CWM installed: does it mean that with CWM i won't get the OTA?
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I answered you in the other thread.
bruceree said:
I can confirm that restoring system data from 4.0.4 to 4.1 will not work fully. I did that last week and google now wasn't working properly, and there were some syncing issues with other applications (grey wifi and data bars)
I also don't think its that much of a hassle to have to re-setup stuff. Each time you do it, it gets quicker . Plus sometimes I make improvements to homescreen/widget setup.
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You should never restore system data across different builds, only across the same build.

You should always do a full wipe before taking a full system ota. It is no different then flashing a rom... you can set the rom not to wipe data either but lots of things will get screwed up.
If you have such a complex setup that you never want to wipe data then you should just stay on the same build and be happy

Can anyone tell me what exactly restoring system data does? I noticed 4.1 comes with its own google maps and such but i also restored it from 4.0.4. Does that mean I'm running 4.0.4 apps?

stickmage said:
I restored system data. What happens when I do this?
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It's fine to restore system data when going from a 4.0.4 ROM to a 4.0.4 ROM. But you are asking for trouble (FC's, crashes, bootloops, etc.) by restoring system data from one version of a ROM to another (like from 4.0.4 to 4.1).

so to be safe, i should only choose restore missing apps with data option? I don't see any other option that excludes system data.

stickmage said:
so to be safe, i should only choose restore missing apps with data option? I don't see any other option that excludes system data.
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You should only restore user apps/data, not system apps/data.

stickmage said:
so to be safe, i should only choose restore missing apps with data option? I don't see any other option that excludes system data.
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If you're doing a batch restore in Titanium it will not include system apps. So, yes, restore missing apps with data should be fine. Titanium is smart enough to not let you mass restore system apps.

I have been able to upgrade from a full stock 4.0.4 to the 4.1 shown in ROM manager without wiping more than cache.
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[Q] TiBu And GooManager

2 questions
1) When I use goomanager and search for compatible roms, why does it show no roms were found? Im using stock everything, rooted.
2) TiBu, when i back up all apps and system data, it hangs on "com.android.sharedstoragebackup" Does anyone know whats wrong with this?

Don't back up the system stuff. Only cause problems when you try to restore it

As Mike said, stay away from backing up or restoring any system stuff.
As far as Goo...stay away as well even if it did show anything lol. Its best to come here to the xda Threads so that you can read about the current rom releases and updates. Also the Devs can add notes here better than they can on Goo.

mikoal said:
2 questions
1) When I use goomanager and search for compatible roms, why does it show no roms were found? Im using stock everything, rooted.
2) TiBu, when i back up all apps and system data, it hangs on "com.android.sharedstoragebackup" Does anyone know whats wrong with this?
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Thanks for both replies.
I will listen to both of u.
but just for knowledge sake.
1) Why doesnt it show any roms on Goo
2) so most poeple would not back up system data? What is that anyways?
I did a full twrp backup, that should include everything, TiBu's benefit is having the option to restore certain items. Would any of those include system data?

A nandroid takes a full "portrait"of your system. TiBu only restores individual component s of your system
If you back up system info from say ics and then restore it to jb, it won't work out well. The framework is different

Not sure why it doesn't. Maybe an issue on Goo's end. I just downloaded goo on my note 2 and it is the same way.
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mrhaley30705 said:
A nandroid takes a full "portrait"of your system. TiBu only restores individual component s of your system
If you back up system info from say ics and then restore it to jb, it won't work out well. The framework is different
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what if its with another version of ICS? Would that be helpful?
Also, my guess is that it isnt really recommended to use Goomanager to flash roms. but do u know why im encountering that issue? EDIT: Thanks for ansering this one

mikoal said:
Also, my guess is that it isnt really recommended to use Goomanager to flash roms.
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The issue isn't really a matter of using it to flash ROMs - which really just delegates the work to TWRP, assuming that's the recovery you're using - so much as using it to find ROMs. You're much better off finding ROMs, say, around here, where info about the ROMs, support, etc. is right there along with the ROMs themselves.
It just Makes Sense™.

[Q] Galaxy Note II (SGH-T889V) rooting problems

Hello to everyone.
I am really ready to give up trying to fix the issues that happened after I rooted my Galaxy Note II (SGH-T889V).
Rooted my phone successfully through the procedure described by Chainfire, worked flawlessly, got SU installed. The purpose of the rooting was to get rid of bloatware that took a lot of memory, battery and space. Deleted all prescribed programs, restarted my note and that is where problems started. Obviously, I accidentally deleted something that is related to contacts, messaging and keypad to dial phone numbers. Tried to manually dial the number on the keypad, I got it frozen after inputting 3 numbers (area code) and then black screen appears with the error *Unfortunately, Contacts has stopped* and it goes to home screen. Same happening with messaging. Basically, I lost 2 of the most abilities of the phone to call out/in and send texts in/out. As recommended on some forums here, I cleaned data in Contacts and Contact storage,but it did not help.
I am brand new to this rooting stuff, but it went OK, I screwed somewhere on the step of deleting bloatware from the phone. Lost any idea and hope what to do...My phone is pretty useless now...
Phone data (if it is needed to get an idea what happened and how to fix it) :
Samsung Galaxy Note II SGH-T889VVLBMA3
Jelly Bean 4.1.2
Kernel 3.031-861899
Stock ROM
Device status - modified
Please, please, please HELP!!!
THANK You and Grateful!

Do you happen to know what apps you deleted? Actually it would be easier if you just get a log cat of the fc. An app like cat log will do the trick
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You most likely deleted one of the contact system apps. It's usually better to freeze an app first (I use titanium backup) to see if there are any problems. If you have a custom recovery twrp or cwm you can flash a custom stock based rom that are usually already debloated. If not use odin and go back to stock and start over. Make sure to backup your essential files/pics first. If you odin back to stock everything on your internal storage will be lost.
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kintwofan said:
Do you happen to know what apps you deleted? Actually it would be easier if you just get a log cat of the fc. An app like cat log will do the trick
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I recall majority of Google apps like maps, search,earth, learning hub, movie, music, google+, chrome, news, yahoo news, chokoEURoe, magazines etc. I will try to run catlog and post the results here.
Thank You very much for replying to me!

sabresfan said:
You most likely deleted one of the contact system apps. It's usually better to freeze an app first (I use titanium backup) to see if there are any problems. If you have a custom recovery twrp or cwm you can flash a custom stock based rom that are usually already debloated. If not use odin and go back to stock and start over. Make sure to backup your essential files/pics first. If you odin back to stock everything on your internal storage will be lost.
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I backed up everything to google servers through my gmail account, but it did not work, tried to restore it from there but it showed nothing was backed...I do not have custom recovery, so I am going with odin option then? Do I need something else in addition to odin, like original rom T889VVLBMA3? I backed up all my files to the computer HD, hopefully this time I will find files.
In odin does it matter what signature is showing in the top left corner of the screen - I saw T889V, Galaxy SIII , I3171. Do they indicate to which version of Galaxy this odin version was developed? My sorry for these obvious questions, but its better be safe than sorry (for me now). Also, I read on this forum that in addition to restore to stock rom it needs to be cache and factory reset done to get the phone back to *normal* mode and *official*. Do I need to do these as well?
Thank You a lot for providing guidance to me! Very much grateful!

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Do you happen to know what apps you deleted? Actually it would be easier if you just get a log cat of the fc. An app like cat log will do the trick
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Update 1.
Tried to download and install Catlog from google play, the download stuck at running line for about 10 minutes and then showed *Cannot download due to an error (927)* I guess need to go for a complete restore. What is your opinion?

THANK YOU!
Update 2. So I decided to go for a full recovery to original stock ROM T889_MTC_VVLBMA3 through Odin option v.3.07 It took about 8 minutes, but, Thanks God, it worked flawlessly and now I back to my factory shipped condition Note II
Thank You very much for participation and your advises, much appreciated!
Now I am debating with myself one question - do I need to go for another try of rooting? Major concern is that phone has too many stock applications that I do not like and will never use in m life. What would be your opinion on that matter?
Also, can you point me in right direction how to do it right way? Previously, I used Chainfire method and it worked nicely, should I go with it or there are another ways to do it (I just looking for rooting)?
And one more : there is a description how to root phone by technique from Mr. Robinson and there are links to files to be used with Odin (root66...), but any link that I used for downloading provided me me corrupted 7z archive. Do you know any other rights links to these files?
Thank you aain and best of luck to everyone!
Cheers!

I would recommend a custom rom. Jedimaster and tweaked are very popular here. Both are based off of the stock rom and are debloated. I would download goo manager and use the option to install custom recovery. This will install twrp recovery. Read up on how to use twrp. Its easy once you get familiar with it. In twrp you can make nandroids (backups) of your current rom and install others. Now that you know how to use odin and go back stock everything else should come easy. As far as root I always use odin. Checkout galaxynote2root.com there are great tutorials there and links needed for root and just about everything else.
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INSTALL CUSTOM RECOVERY after you root the phone. Then - reboot and you'll see how it works. You should read upon the very basics of rooting/installing custom roms. Fundamental stuff. Jedi are good custorm roms, I prefer AOSP but you have to use gapps for those.
Download Jedi .zip file and put it on the external card (over 1G) navigate through custome rec, wipe cache/dalvik cashe /system; go back to main menu/install click on .zip file wherever you put it on your external card (preferred to internal) and you're done. I used exynos exploit one click root, and TWRP recovery. It's actually quite simple once go over this first time.