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[Q] Removed unwanted apps, Now What??

Hello and happy holidays to everyone.
I am running VaelPak 3.0 and have removed some unwanted apps that I don't use/need.
If I flash an updated version of the ROM, I will get all these apps back. My question is, is there a way I can save my phone's image as it is now so that I do not have to remove those apps manually again the next time?
Any advice will be highly appreciated.

cant you just backup your nand??
or use titanium backup..

xtrubambinoxpr said:
cant you just backup your nand??
or use titanium backup..
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I do nand backups, but haven't restored them yet.
Won't it just put the old apps (backed up apps) back in place and not delete the new apps that the updated ROM added?
Thanks,

i removed all the app i didnt want with titanium back up THEN did a nand backup and it restored from the point i was (without the things i wanted) so i guess you can do that..
just take the nand backup you already have and save that backup on your comp in case something ever happens..
then do another one with the corrections and updates you did and that the one without all the bulk..
thats what i did..

xtrubambinoxpr said:
i removed all the app i didnt want with titanium back up THEN did a nand backup and it restored from the point i was (without the things i wanted) so i guess you can do that..
just take the nand backup you already have and save that backup on your comp in case something ever happens..
then do another one with the corrections and updates you did and that the one without all the bulk..
thats what i did..
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I will try that and update the post on how it works out.
Thanks.

They will come back forget doing nands or titanium that's the hard way. Just get an app that allows you to remove apps from your phone. I use this simple app called root manager its easy as pie and I just remove what I don't want again. Titanium can also do this I think but its not user friendly for me lol
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yea titanium confused me at first too.. a little to complicated and still is..
i was just saying if u wanted to do the nand backup of your new and improved system its easier..
and since we on the topic of backups and removal..
any apps that can backup ALL apps and data and restore them because im about to unroot to root using Toast method so i have nand unlocked..

while I haven't tried this...so try at your own risk. In the .zip file, clean out everything you don't want and leave only the stuff you want new, or updated. That SHOULD keep them from installing to the phone when flashing. once those are gone, just flash like normal.

topdawgn8 said:
while I haven't tried this...so try at your own risk. In the .zip file, clean out everything you don't want and leave only the stuff you want new, or updated. That SHOULD keep them from installing to the phone when flashing. once those are gone, just flash like normal.
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Isn't the file signed? I will have to sign it again, right?
I think I will just write a script and run it after flashing a new ROM every time.
Thanks,

I don't know if it would remove the signature or not...worth a try. Let me look real quick. there's already a tool out for signing files...at least it would save you some key strokes.
edit: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=794132&highlight=sign+files

Best way to make a full 100% backup of phone ?

Hi guys .. I have had my Desire Z for a little while and I want to play around with ROMs now ... I am looking for a way to make a *full* backup of the phone .. That means the OS itself, all its settings (alarms, personalization stuff, stored passwords, installed apps, etc ..), all application and personal data (both on ROM and SD card), etc ...
That is, one backup that when restored, returns the complete phone including all its settings and data to the state the phone was in when the backup was created ..
Now there are two Market tools I've found that claim to do something similar: My Backup Pro and Titanium Backup, and I also hear that ClockWorkMod can create backups ...
But I don't know if these tools backup *everything* like I want, so any advice given here would be really appreciated ..

Ok, the only way to make a 100% backup is when you are rooted.
When you are rooted you can use titanium backup to back up all your apps, data & settings. Then when you install a new ROM you can easily restore everything.
The back up you do in CWM is called a nandroid and this backs up your entire ROM including apps, data & settings. as soon as you are rooted you will want to do this so you have a back up of your stock ROM incase anything goes wrong and you need to get your stock ROM easily.
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cjward23 said:
Ok, the only way to make a 100% backup is when you are rooted.
When you are rooted you can use titanium backup to back up all your apps, data & settings. Then when you install a new ROM you can easily restore everything.
The back up you do in CWM is called a nandroid and this backs up your entire ROM including apps, data & settings. as soon as you are rooted you will want to do this so you have a back up of your stock ROM incase anything goes wrong and you need to get your stock ROM easily.
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Ok thanks for that advice ...
So assuming my phone is rooted (it isn't now but I will do it once this issue is resolved), which method is better for me which backs up *everything* (stock OS, personal data, app data, media, settings, SD card stuff, etc ..) ? CWM or Titanium Backup ?
I have heard that CWM doesn't backup everything .. that it leaves some stuff out (not exactly sure what this is though) .. :/

ahmadka said:
Ok thanks for that advice ...
So assuming my phone is rooted (it isn't now but I will do it once this issue is resolved), which method is better for me which backs up *everything* (stock OS, personal data, app data, media, settings, SD card stuff, etc ..) ? CWM or Titanium Backup ?
I have heard that CWM doesn't backup everything .. that it leaves some stuff out (not exactly sure what this is though) .. :/
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never ever ever use TiBU for backing up anything other than downloaded apps. (imo, some people may disagree, but I have never had success with TiBU outside of saving a few downloaded apps... and even then it seems to be hit or miss for me)
CWM is the best option for creating a full backup. when you restore a nandroid backup, it's like going back in time... everything is exactly as it was when that backup was created.

pmcqueen said:
never ever ever use TiBU for backing up anything other than downloaded apps. (imo, some people may disagree, but I have never had success with TiBU outside of saving a few downloaded apps... and even then it seems to be hit or miss for me)
CWM is the best option for creating a full backup. when you restore a nandroid backup, it's like going back in time... everything is exactly as it was when that backup was created.
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Hmm ... Are you absolutely sure that CWM backs up everything ? That is, the stock ROM, all my android's settings, sms, contacts, emails, list of apps installed, app data, my personal data (photos, videos, music, documents, etc ..) ? And does it also backup data from both the built-in memory and stuff on the SD card ?
Reason why I ask this is because this afternoon I came across a thread (can't seem to find it now) where somebody said CWM leaves some stuff out in backing up and then somebody else suggested using Titanium Backup ...
So I want to proceed with CWM only if you're dead sure that it backs up *everyyyyyythinggggg* ...
Btw, I don't mean to question to knowledge, I just want to be sure, thats all

cjward23 said:
Ok, the only way to make a 100% backup is when you are rooted.
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+1
Root + Titanium Backup.

How can we back up the stock rom?? Cwm will not be present on the stock rom. So how?
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mmb_z said:
+1
Root + Titanium Backup.
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Conflicting statements people .. :/
CWM or titanium backup ?
Btw, does titanium backup also backup the stock OS/ROM ?

vikraam said:
How can we back up the stock rom?? Cwm will not be present on the stock rom. So how?
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When you root you will still be using your stock ROM, you then back up your stock rooted ROM. There is no way to back up an unrooted ROM.
Unrooted stock ROM's are available in the form of an official RUU most of which you will find if you read the stickies in the development section of the forums.
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ahmadka said:
Conflicting statements people .. :/
CWM or titanium backup ?
Btw, does titanium backup also backup the stock OS/ROM ?
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Titanium will not back up the os, you can use to back up all of the system apps and data. But as a previous poster said this is not good a good idea as restoring them tends to be problematic.
And don't worry about your sdcard flashing roms will not affect any data on your sdcard.
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mmb_z said:
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Root + Titanium Backup.
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ahmadka said:
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the only thing you could theoretically lose are photos, videos, etc that are stored on the sdcard... but this would only happen if you deleted/formatted the sd card. otherwise, they just move with you from rom to rom.
I don't know what people think titanium backup is for, but seriously... it's not as magnificent as it is commonly made out to be. its only real use is restoring stuff from /data (ie apps and settings). even then, it is known to be problematic. I have used it in the past but I finally got sick of it when I realized that half of the time I used it to backup/restore it ended up doing more harm than good.
CWM is the best option for making a full backup of EVERYTHING on your phone (remember, your sd card is not part of your phone... it doesn't get backed up/restored via CWM). restoring a CWM backup will revert your phone to the exact state it was in at the time of the backup.

I used titanium backup and it worked for everything. Even backed the stuff up to my PC.
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hardy1906 said:
I used titanium backup and it worked for everything. Even backed the stuff up to my PC.
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that's awesome, but you will encounter problems with Ti backup if you try to restore anything from /system after installing a new rom. if you've come from one aosp rom to another, you might get lucky and not have any trouble (especially if they are a similar flavor of aosp), but if you try to restore anything from a sense rom's /system to an aosp rom's /system, or vice versa, you're in for a lot of force closing and general bass-ackwardness.
op: the BEST way is a nandroid backup. if you try and restore titanium backup apps and settings over whichever rom you've installed, you can almost guarantee something will be broken... just do it the right way and do a nandroid backup via CWM and save yourself the trouble.

Guys I forgot to mention, my phone is NOT currently rooted (Yes I realize I should have mentioned this in the first post) .. so what can I use now to backup everything like I want ?

ahmadka said:
Guys I forgot to mention, my phone is NOT currently rooted (Yes I realize I should have mentioned this in the first post) .. so what can I use now to backup everything like I want ?
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Not much really, there are apps available to back up sms and contacts will be synced to Google.

todo backup by easeus...free too. works great
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1) Root.
2) Install CWM Recovery.
3) Nandroid.
There's your backup.

How do you guys do backups when you try out different roms? Am I bound to lose scores and settings in games and apps every time i change rom?
(sorry for what may be a stupid question, but i understood the answers given earlier that making a Nandroid recovery will also recover the rom at the time of the backup not just apps and settings)

glx-rider said:
How do you guys do backups when you try out different roms? Am I bound to lose scores and settings in games and apps every time i change rom?
(sorry for what may be a stupid question, but i understood the answers given earlier that making a Nandroid recovery will also recover the rom at the time of the backup not just apps and settings)
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A nandroid back does a complete back of system, apps, data, and settings. When you restore a nandroid your phone will be restored to the exact point it was at before you preformed the nandroid.
To back up apps and data, you will need to use an app like titanium backup. you then can restore apps and data, including game save and scores after you flash a new rom.
But it is not advised to back up and restore system data and settings with titanium back up

before i rooted i took backups whit MyBackup.
after you get rooted, take Clean CWM backup of your phone.
when you are up and running on a custom rom, take CWM backup, and back up downloaded apps whit Titanium backup.
If you are going from sense rom to sense rom, you dont necessaryli need to wipe your data and apps, so you don't have to restore anything. If you are going for completely different rom, you need wipe everything, after you are running in new rom, you cant get just the apps from cwm backup, it would restore your old rom too, so now restore your apps and stuff from TI backups. and if you don't like the new rom, use CWM backup to go back to your last rom.
so you need both backups cwm and Ti..
and as said before app backups might cause some problems when going from rom to rom
I have been jumping between different MIUI roms, they are basically the same so i haven't wiped anything(except dalvik cache) when flashing new rom, so everything will stay the way they are, and no ned to restore anything, if that's the case.
What comes to the stuff on SDcard, it will be just fine, if you want to back up your pics/music/vids, etc from your sdcard, just copy them to your computer.

[Q] Nandroid backup help

Hey guys i cracked my evo again yesterday so im probably going to go get another one sometime soon. Is it possible to make a nandroid of my current evo and restore it on my new evo? If so HOW do it do it and WHAT do i need to backup im running armon ra 2.3 so i can pick and choose what to backup. Thanks guys!

Im not an evo expert seeing as i have a galaxy s 4g but i believe if you somehow edit the md5 sum of either the phone or the backup, you can use it on pretty much any phone (well not any, like you couldnt take a nand of an evo custom rom and run it on a galaxy s)
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Restoring a backup in that manner can brick your evo. What you do is backup all of the apps and data to titanium backup on the sd card, then put that sd card in the new evo, use revolutionary to root it, then after root, restore ONLY apps and data, NOT system settings. You can restore launcher settings as well, just re add the widgets.
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teh roxxorz said:
Restoring a backup in that manner can brick your evo. What you do is backup all of the apps and data to titanium backup on the sd card, then put that sd card in the new evo, use revolutionary to root it, then after root, restore ONLY apps and data, NOT system settings. You can restore launcher settings as well, just re add the widgets.
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Well I saw on another thread that like the other guy said you can edit files to trick the phone into thinking it was the original one
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alainater said:
Well I saw on another thread that like the other guy said you can edit files to trick the phone into thinking it was the original one
Sywped from mah Supasonic!
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Well I'm personally not familiar with it. Though I still don't recommend it if you don't know what you are doing because you will corrupt the backup and could brick the phone.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=728266
go down to the third post! I think it would work

alainater said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=728266
go down to the third post! I think it would work
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I still wouldn't do that. The evo, unlike the hero, has wimax, and if you overwrite the wimax radios, you will NEVER get them back.

alainater said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=728266
go down to the third post! I think it would work
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Well if that's the case, that should work, just have to be sure to get the new device id exactly right. Though I still think he will run into problems, maybe force closes when restoring the system portion.
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sitlet said:
I still wouldn't do that. The evo, unlike the hero, has wimax, and if you overwrite the wimax radios, you will NEVER get them back.
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well if I backup with armon ra the I can choose to not to backup Wimax
Sywped from mah Supasonic!

I would suggest installing clockwork mod, making a nandroid of your current setup and downloading titanium backup, backing up your apps plus data. Copy the backup data to your computer. Once you get your new phone, root it, install clockwork mod again and MAKE A NANDROID BACKUP of your stock evo. This is very important. If you somehow lose your wimax keys, or mess something critical up, this will allow you to get those keys back. Now, restore your nandroid from your previous phone, and restore your apps + data.
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Earthshine0 said:
I would suggest installing clockwork mod, making a nandroid of your current setup and downloading titanium backup, backing up your apps plus data. Copy the backup data to your computer. Once you get your new phone, root it, install clockwork mod again and MAKE A NANDROID BACKUP of your stock evo. This is very important. If you somehow lose your wimax keys, or mess something critical up, this will allow you to get those keys back. Now, restore your nandroid from your previous phone, and restore your apps + data.
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Ok that makes sense but if I make a nandroid why would I need titanium?
Sywped from mah Supasonic!

You should really buy an Otter Box case and you wouldn't really be having this problem. But to answer you question, yes the last response was correct. As long as you store the backup on your computer then you can put that copy on your new cell.
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Neptune2633 said:
You should really buy an Otter Box case and you wouldn't really be having this problem. But to answer you question, yes the last response was correct. As long as you store the backup on your computer then you can put that copy on your new cell.
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HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA funny you say that cause I have one! I don't use it cause I have an extended battery so I can't use it...
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alainater said:
Ok that makes sense but if I make a nandroid why would I need titanium?
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Because apps won't restore properly.
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Earthshine0 said:
Because apps won't restore properly.
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OK well actually thinking about it now I might just do a clean install and use titanium to restore some apps
Sywped from mah Supasonic!

Sounds good to me, the only reason I would use nandroid is if you have a highly modified phone (custom rom and/or kernel, themes, etc).
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Earthshine0 said:
Sounds good to me, the only reason I would use nandroid is if you have a highly modified phone (custom rom and/or kernel, themes, etc).
If I or someone else helped you, tap the thanks button.
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You bet I'll thank you once I get on my computer haha
Sywped from mah Supasonic!

alainater said:
well if I backup with armon ra the I can choose to not to backup Wimax
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Well if you used clockwork, you can manually go into the folder and remove the wimax from the backup.

[Q] Backing up and Restoring

I have to go into the sprint store to fix my headphone jack. I know I have to unroot my phone. But if I backup my phone using nandroid before I unroot it, can I root my phone after I get my problem solved and restore that backup? A fast answer will really be appreciated. I'm in a hurry to fix this.

kkc6196 said:
I have to go into the sprint store to fix my headphone jack. I know I have to unroot my phone. But if I backup my phone using nandroid before I unroot it, can I root my phone after I get my problem solved and restore that backup? A fast answer will really be appreciated. I'm in a hurry to fix this.
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Sure you can. Either just leave it on your sd card, or copy it to your HD on your computer. Then restore as you normally would.

go into your files folder and click on cwm recovery, see if you see the nandroid backup. and at the top, it should say "/sdcard/. that means the nandroid is on your sdcard

Thank you.

I know this sounds like a dumb question, but can I have multiple Nandroid backups in my CWM folder? In other words my current Nandroid is of my stock, rooted EL30 ODEX backup. Now I'm running FC09 DEODEX ROM, stock, but I would like to have a backup of it too...

Yes you can.

rando991 said:
I know this sounds like a dumb question, but can I have multiple Nandroid backups in my CWM folder? In other words my current Nandroid is of my stock, rooted EL30 ODEX backup. Now I'm running FC09 DEODEX ROM, stock, but I would like to have a backup of it too...
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Each nandroid is automatically named according to date so you should be able to differentiate pretty quickly what is what. Just learned about this over the weekend when I did my first restore.

i am also on FC09 deodex, but im having problems with rom manager creating a recovery? is there anything i need to do specifically instead of rom manager?

While we're on this topic, I noticed I'd been losing a good bit of space on my sdcard after all this rooting and whatnot (finally took the leap last week). I now have CM9 RC1 and 2 on the card, as well as a few nightlies. Is it cool to delete some of these and keep the current and/or second to last file?

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While we're on this topic, I noticed I'd been losing a good bit of space on my sdcard after all this rooting and whatnot (finally took the leap last week). I now have CM9 RC1 and 2 on the card, as well as a few nightlies. Is it cool to delete some of these and keep the current and/or second to last file?
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That's exactly what I do.

That s what I do usually
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How to save everything and format phone

I seem to be having issues with my phone where nobody can hear me and I can't hear them. It doesn't seem to be the roms fault as it seems to happen on various roms. So I will unroot and go back to stock, however....
1. How do I make sure I can keep all my SMS backup backed up as well a titanium backups. I'm guessing they are all on the phones memory right?
Besides making sure I have all my stuff backed up any other suggestions before going to sprint?

Mybackup Pro will backup just about everything. SMS, contacts, setting, call log, ect. Give it a try. Make sure you set the backup location to your sdcard.
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killaphatboy said:
Mybackup Pro will backup just about everything. SMS, contacts, setting, call log, ect. Give it a try. Make sure you set the backup location to your sdcard.
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Okay that will work but how about apps and app settings

Are you on ICS or Gingerbread? Best way in my experience is to do a nandroid backup then factory data reset (will not delete anything on the sd card) Then when you want to restore go to recovery. Backups and restore, advanced restore, choose the one you want. They all have the date created as the file name. Then choose it and choose restore data. Best way IMO. Titanium backup is a mess if ya ask me! I have lost so many apps using that.

that makes sense, I don't know why i didn't just think of that. and its GB.

Astro file manager for app backup... Quick and simple... Free..
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polska2180o said:
that makes sense, I don't know why i didn't just think of that. and its GB.
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Because if you were having any issues with your data corrupting your apps then it will come back when restoring. If I am not mistaken that method restores your apps and the data. Which if you check any android forum its not recommended to restore data but just apps. Now I have only done the advance restore once or twice but I believe it does restore everything included data...
MyBackup Root and TB along with GoSMS although MyBackup Root does handle SMS and MMS I believe are definitely the route you want to take... IMHO

playya said:
Because if you were having any issues with your data corrupting your apps then it will come back when restoring. If I am not mistaken that method restores your apps and the data. Which if you check any android forum its not recommended to restore data but just apps. Now I have only done the advance restore once or twice but I believe it does restore everything included data...
MyBackup Root and TB along with GoSMS although MyBackup Root does handle SMS and MMS I believe are definitely the route you want to take... IMHO
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Restoring from Clockwork mod is the best way trust me I have never had any issues doing it this way. Titanium backup is where I have had all the issues with losing certain apps and data because they become corrupt.

My backup pro backs up apps too. Yes Titanium Backup sucks. I use App Backup and Restore.
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SMS Backup & Restore is good for just texts.

polska2180o said:
I seem to be having issues with my phone where nobody can hear me and I can't hear them. It doesn't seem to be the roms fault as it seems to happen on various roms. So I will unroot and go back to stock, however....
1. How do I make sure I can keep all my SMS backup backed up as well a titanium backups. I'm guessing they are all on the phones memory right?
Besides making sure I have all my stuff backed up any other suggestions before going to sprint?
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In addition to all the suggestions, I would also backup micro sd card to computer as final step just in case.

Since everyone already dealt with backing up the phone...
I wrote this for someone not long ago. I hated all the folders that got created and left by old apps. I've always felt that the stuff left behind might cause problems when flashing between roms and it's always good to format everything and start over once in a while.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=24056900&postcount=9930

tdunham said:
Since everyone already dealt with backing up the phone...
I wrote this for someone not long ago. I hated all the folders that got created and left by old apps. I've always felt that the stuff left behind might cause problems when flashing between roms and it's always good to format everything and start over once in a while.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=24056900&postcount=9930
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Right on man i totally agree