Hey guys i cracked my evo again yesterday so im probably going to go get another one sometime soon. Is it possible to make a nandroid of my current evo and restore it on my new evo? If so HOW do it do it and WHAT do i need to backup im running armon ra 2.3 so i can pick and choose what to backup. Thanks guys!
Im not an evo expert seeing as i have a galaxy s 4g but i believe if you somehow edit the md5 sum of either the phone or the backup, you can use it on pretty much any phone (well not any, like you couldnt take a nand of an evo custom rom and run it on a galaxy s)
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Restoring a backup in that manner can brick your evo. What you do is backup all of the apps and data to titanium backup on the sd card, then put that sd card in the new evo, use revolutionary to root it, then after root, restore ONLY apps and data, NOT system settings. You can restore launcher settings as well, just re add the widgets.
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Restoring a backup in that manner can brick your evo. What you do is backup all of the apps and data to titanium backup on the sd card, then put that sd card in the new evo, use revolutionary to root it, then after root, restore ONLY apps and data, NOT system settings. You can restore launcher settings as well, just re add the widgets.
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Well I saw on another thread that like the other guy said you can edit files to trick the phone into thinking it was the original one
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alainater said:
Well I saw on another thread that like the other guy said you can edit files to trick the phone into thinking it was the original one
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Well I'm personally not familiar with it. Though I still don't recommend it if you don't know what you are doing because you will corrupt the backup and could brick the phone.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=728266
go down to the third post! I think it would work
alainater said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=728266
go down to the third post! I think it would work
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I still wouldn't do that. The evo, unlike the hero, has wimax, and if you overwrite the wimax radios, you will NEVER get them back.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=728266
go down to the third post! I think it would work
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Well if that's the case, that should work, just have to be sure to get the new device id exactly right. Though I still think he will run into problems, maybe force closes when restoring the system portion.
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sitlet said:
I still wouldn't do that. The evo, unlike the hero, has wimax, and if you overwrite the wimax radios, you will NEVER get them back.
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well if I backup with armon ra the I can choose to not to backup Wimax
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I would suggest installing clockwork mod, making a nandroid of your current setup and downloading titanium backup, backing up your apps plus data. Copy the backup data to your computer. Once you get your new phone, root it, install clockwork mod again and MAKE A NANDROID BACKUP of your stock evo. This is very important. If you somehow lose your wimax keys, or mess something critical up, this will allow you to get those keys back. Now, restore your nandroid from your previous phone, and restore your apps + data.
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Earthshine0 said:
I would suggest installing clockwork mod, making a nandroid of your current setup and downloading titanium backup, backing up your apps plus data. Copy the backup data to your computer. Once you get your new phone, root it, install clockwork mod again and MAKE A NANDROID BACKUP of your stock evo. This is very important. If you somehow lose your wimax keys, or mess something critical up, this will allow you to get those keys back. Now, restore your nandroid from your previous phone, and restore your apps + data.
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Ok that makes sense but if I make a nandroid why would I need titanium?
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You should really buy an Otter Box case and you wouldn't really be having this problem. But to answer you question, yes the last response was correct. As long as you store the backup on your computer then you can put that copy on your new cell.
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Neptune2633 said:
You should really buy an Otter Box case and you wouldn't really be having this problem. But to answer you question, yes the last response was correct. As long as you store the backup on your computer then you can put that copy on your new cell.
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HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA funny you say that cause I have one! I don't use it cause I have an extended battery so I can't use it...
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alainater said:
Ok that makes sense but if I make a nandroid why would I need titanium?
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Because apps won't restore properly.
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Because apps won't restore properly.
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OK well actually thinking about it now I might just do a clean install and use titanium to restore some apps
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Sounds good to me, the only reason I would use nandroid is if you have a highly modified phone (custom rom and/or kernel, themes, etc).
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Sounds good to me, the only reason I would use nandroid is if you have a highly modified phone (custom rom and/or kernel, themes, etc).
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You bet I'll thank you once I get on my computer haha
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alainater said:
well if I backup with armon ra the I can choose to not to backup Wimax
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Well if you used clockwork, you can manually go into the folder and remove the wimax from the backup.
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What is the point of a nandroid backup?
Ive flashed many roms since coming here, and have backed up my Nandroid a few times, but I have no clue what the backups are to be used for.
Am I right in assuming that its a backup of all the internal memory? Such that say I was on Rom Y, I nandroid backup, then full wipe and flash Rom Z, if Z sucks I can just flash Y, and restore the backup and my phone is completely back to where it was before the process? Is that the purpose?
Ive finally gotten tired of setting up my homescreens/widgets/programs everytime I flash a new rom. So I wondered if Nandroid backups could help alleviate some of that.
Thanks.
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What is the point of a nandroid backup?
Ive flashed many roms since coming here, and have backed up my Nandroid a few times, but I have no clue what the backups are to be used for.
Am I right in assuming that its a backup of all the internal memory? Such that say I was on Rom Y, I nandroid backup, then full wipe and flash Rom Z, if Z sucks I can just flash Y, and restore the backup and my phone is completely back to where it was before the process? Is that the purpose?
Ive finally gotten tired of setting up my homescreens/widgets/programs everytime I flash a new rom. So I wondered if Nandroid backups could help alleviate some of that.
Thanks.
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with the current lack of brain power to make a good joke at your topic line about young attractive nandroid backups, ill give you a straight answer.
Yes. your assumption on what they do is correct. however you cant use them to backup homescreen stuffs and move them to a new rom.
im not sure what you can use for that but theres probably something out there for that.
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with the current lack of brain power to make a good joke at your topic line about young attractive nandroid backups, ill give you a straight answer.
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Thats why I post my grammatically terrible questions in the mornings!
Thanks for the response, I assumed a backup for Y wouldnt work for Z, but if it at least can get me back to Y seamlessly, thats something.
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im not sure what you can use for that but theres probably something out there for that.
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I use LauncherPro, which has a backup, titanium for programs, and apps organizer to make it as painless as possible, but theres still some annoyance in getting it all perfect (Widgets for instance dont really back up with Launcher Pro).
the other purpose is as a fail safe. if something goes majorly wrong. you have a stable safe back up that will get you running again.
MyBackup from the market has the ability to save home screen settings. Combined with Titanium Backup, it is a great way to move apps and data to new ROMs. Just be sure to not restore system settings as that will screw up your new ROM.
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Is it possible and if so how to do a Nand restore i have backeD up on SD card from my old EVO to my replacemnt EVO??
dannys.ser said:
Is it possible and if so how to do a Nand restore i have backeD up on SD card from my old EVO to my replacemnt EVO??
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First this is not the forum for questions. The question and answer thread is better suited. That said I wouldn't recommend restoring a backup from another Rom , especially if you used amon
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barnacles10 said:
First this is not the forum for questions. The question and answer thread is better suited. That said I wouldn't recommend restoring a backup from another Rom , especially if you used amon
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Ya if you overwrite your wimax code from the previous phone it could mess up your 4g. Just suck it up and do a clean install on the new phone.
bizdady said:
Ya if you overwrite your wimax code from the previous phone it could mess up your 4g. Just suck it up and do a clean install on the new phone.
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Exactly, if you flash over your wimax image it WILL bork 4g. (I haven't tested but it only makes sense) The idea of backing up wimax is to keep keys in tact. If you flash keys from another phone, then you my friend will be on evo #3. haha
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Exactly, if you flash over your wimax image it WILL bork 4g. (I haven't tested but it only makes sense) The idea of backing up wimax is to keep keys in tact. If you flash keys from another phone, then you my friend will be on evo #3. haha
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I agree 100% with everything said here, just use your other Evo as a template for which programs to download and such and do not use Nandroid to restore stuff from your older Evo. If you write over your WIMAX, bye bye 4G. That or you can only use 4G on one phone at a time because they will share the same key.
You were already told that this is the wrong section, so no need to repeat. Please post in Q&A next time if you have questions, saves a MOD from having to move your post.
isn't there a workaround?
Could you just remove the wimax.img from the nandroid restore folder and then restore the other img portions? (Unless of course the restore process must have ALL the img files to complete)
Or maybe move all your img files, except the wimax one, into a PC36img.zip and restore via bootloader? (unless you have to sign the pc36img.zip file somehow)
I suppose removing all the radio images would be prudent here. You're really just interested in /boot, /data and /system I believe.
Hello and happy holidays to everyone.
I am running VaelPak 3.0 and have removed some unwanted apps that I don't use/need.
If I flash an updated version of the ROM, I will get all these apps back. My question is, is there a way I can save my phone's image as it is now so that I do not have to remove those apps manually again the next time?
Any advice will be highly appreciated.
cant you just backup your nand??
or use titanium backup..
xtrubambinoxpr said:
cant you just backup your nand??
or use titanium backup..
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I do nand backups, but haven't restored them yet.
Won't it just put the old apps (backed up apps) back in place and not delete the new apps that the updated ROM added?
Thanks,
i removed all the app i didnt want with titanium back up THEN did a nand backup and it restored from the point i was (without the things i wanted) so i guess you can do that..
just take the nand backup you already have and save that backup on your comp in case something ever happens..
then do another one with the corrections and updates you did and that the one without all the bulk..
thats what i did..
xtrubambinoxpr said:
i removed all the app i didnt want with titanium back up THEN did a nand backup and it restored from the point i was (without the things i wanted) so i guess you can do that..
just take the nand backup you already have and save that backup on your comp in case something ever happens..
then do another one with the corrections and updates you did and that the one without all the bulk..
thats what i did..
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I will try that and update the post on how it works out.
Thanks.
They will come back forget doing nands or titanium that's the hard way. Just get an app that allows you to remove apps from your phone. I use this simple app called root manager its easy as pie and I just remove what I don't want again. Titanium can also do this I think but its not user friendly for me lol
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yea titanium confused me at first too.. a little to complicated and still is..
i was just saying if u wanted to do the nand backup of your new and improved system its easier..
and since we on the topic of backups and removal..
any apps that can backup ALL apps and data and restore them because im about to unroot to root using Toast method so i have nand unlocked..
while I haven't tried this...so try at your own risk. In the .zip file, clean out everything you don't want and leave only the stuff you want new, or updated. That SHOULD keep them from installing to the phone when flashing. once those are gone, just flash like normal.
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while I haven't tried this...so try at your own risk. In the .zip file, clean out everything you don't want and leave only the stuff you want new, or updated. That SHOULD keep them from installing to the phone when flashing. once those are gone, just flash like normal.
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Isn't the file signed? I will have to sign it again, right?
I think I will just write a script and run it after flashing a new ROM every time.
Thanks,
I don't know if it would remove the signature or not...worth a try. Let me look real quick. there's already a tool out for signing files...at least it would save you some key strokes.
edit: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=794132&highlight=sign+files
My replacement phone will at my house tomorrow morning (assuming fedex delivers tomorrow) after swapping SD cards and rooting the new one can I restore my old backup from that SD card and start from where I left off? Thanks for all your help guys
Not recomended.. you might get a different hw version or might loose radio and wimax and all that
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+1 don't do it! you will break your new phone, not might, WILL
Oh wow, thanks for the advice guys but what about my Titanium backups?
they are fine
Cool cool, Thanks again
corzo002 said:
Oh wow, thanks for the advice guys but what about my Titanium backups?
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Ya you dont want to overwrite your RSA keys and loose your 4g keys.
can't lose rsa with titanium
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can't lose rsa with titanium
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Wasn'talking about tb, I was saying the old phones nandroid on new phone will.
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nandroid backups dont back up RSA keys....until now with clockwork 3.0...he should be able to restore fine.
RA recovery does, either way it's not safe
locoboi187 said:
nandroid backups dont back up RSA keys....until now with clockwork 3.0...he should be able to restore fine.
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RA has for quite some time. That's how many people here lost their RSA keys.
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locoboi187 said:
nandroid backups dont back up RSA keys....until now with clockwork 3.0...he should be able to restore fine.
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Amon_Ra has for quite a long time now actually. He should NOT restore but to each their own. Setting up a phone back up from sratch isnt all that bad anyways.
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locoboi187 said:
nandroid backups dont back up RSA keys....until now with clockwork 3.0...he should be able to restore fine.
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This is for sure? I preferred CWM to Ra on my hero and only use Rate now because of RSA keys....if its safe to switch I will...
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This is for sure? I preferred CWM to Ra on my hero and only use Rate now because of RSA keys....if its safe to switch I will...
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the new clockwork only works with the newer 2 series hboot, won't work with older
Don't do it.
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don't take it personal, everybody learns new stuff each day here
I'm about to take my phone down to sprint for a blown speaker, I'm worried they might replace it. I'd like to make a full nandroid backup just in case, and then just restore it on the new phone if that happens. Is this possible?
9kracing said:
I'm about to take my phone down to sprint for a blown speaker, I'm worried they might replace it. I'd like to make a full nandroid backup just in case, and then just restore it on the new phone if that happens. Is this possible?
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It is if you are rooted. If sprint sees that your phone doesn't have the stock recovery they will probably not replace your phone; as when you root you void your warranty.
So if you are you might want to nandroid backup and then odin EC05 or DI18 and then OTA to EC05. Then root the new replacement and restore nandroid.
if not rooted:
You can use an app like MyBackup Pro; its a paid app but you can try it for like 30 days, so you can backup your apps and data, keep the SD Card and put it in the replacement (your photos are on it as well). Then on the replacement; download the app again and restore.
Hope that helps and good luck at sprint
9kracing said:
I'm about to take my phone down to sprint for a blown speaker, I'm worried they might replace it. I'd like to make a full nandroid backup just in case, and then just restore it on the new phone if that happens. Is this possible?
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Check out App Brain also. Some file managers let you backup apps to the SD card but that is not much different than just redownloading them from the market.
Other than MyBackup and App Brain like mentioned above, you would need to root for many more options then unroot to return your phone.
Ya, I planned on Odin'ing before I take it in, but I was hoping I didn't have to go through the trouble of rooting, flashing roms, kernals, themes, sd speed fixes, etc when I get a new one. I have my backup pro, but it wont restore anything besides my apps and data correct?
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Ya, I planned on Odin'ing before I take it in, but I was hoping I didn't have to go through the trouble of rooting, flashing roms, kernals, themes, sd speed fixes, etc when I get a new one. I have my backup pro, but it wont restore anything besides my apps and data correct?
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Right MyBackup pro will only do call logs, texts, apps and their data.
You can do a nandroid backup before you odin back to stock, that is saved in a folder called clockworkmod/backup. as long as you keep your sd card; when you re-root your replacement you should be able to boot to recovery and restore
Use MyBackup ROOT. It's free on the Market and can back up and restore just about everything, although it's not a total image like Nandroid.
just a quick question:
how do you ota back to ec05 after odin-ing back to..well ec05? Im new to rooting etc. thanks.
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jdelano said:
Right MyBackup pro will only do call logs, texts, apps and their data.
You can do a nandroid backup before you odin back to stock, that is saved in a folder called clockworkmod/backup. as long as you keep your sd card; when you re-root your replacement you should be able to boot to recovery and restore
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awesome that's exactly what I wanted to hear
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You may have an MD5 mismatch, if that is the case make a nand backup on the new phone then take the MD5 file and paste it into the older backup.
I reccomond titanium backup
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063_XOBX said:
You may have an MD5 mismatch, if that is the case make a nand backup on the new phone then take the MD5 file and paste it into the older backup.
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Heh, I had a feeling it wasn't going to be that easy. If I have to start mounting the phone to pull off backups, modify them, do a new backup, etc... I might as well just flash the ROM, Kenel and theme lol. Ah well, I was hoping it would be as easy as restoring a nandroid backup once I rooted.
Thanks for the help guys.
Do the nandroid backup. Move that folder to a location on your pc (or keep your sd card). If you do get a replacement, you just have to do the one-click root w/ cwm. Odin to the appropriate froyo for your rom, then restore. Shouldn't take more than 10 minutes
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just a quick question:
how do you ota back to ec05 after odin-ing back to..well ec05? Im new to rooting etc. thanks.
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First: Not possible, you can't "update" to the same version you are already on, you have to odin to Di18.
Second: If you dont even know the answer to this, seemingly simple, question, why are you rooted?
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Thanks.
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