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[Q] What is the best way to backup apps before installing a new rom?

I'm looking for the best possible solution to backup my apps and apps settings (Handcent Gmail, etc) so when I flash a new rom I'm able to open up the app thats already configured relativity head ache free.
Is this something apps 2 sd would do?

MYBACKUPPRO, TITANIUM BACKUP, ASTRO FILE MANAGER, etc etc - Just search the market for "backup" and google the diff apps to see the features of each.

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jahnile said:
Without a shadow of a doubt titanium backup...
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DITTO makes everything easier

Titanium for sure

dunno about mybackup pro but titanium backup donate has gotten me out of some stupid situations before. It does the apps / data / system data all seperate and lets you restore each or all at once...going to and from CM6 and keeping two roms updated to play around with has never been easier.

Titanium backup. Back up app+data.
If you are going to a new rom and not the same rom it is best to install the apps fresh and not install the apps using Titanium back up. The apps that are saved are saved with the first roms settings and sometimes just the littelest diffrence could cause all sorts of issues leading to FC's or something else.

twilk73 said:
Titanium backup. Back up app+data.
If you are going to a new rom and not the same rom it is best to install the apps fresh and not install the apps using Titanium back up. The apps that are saved are saved with the first roms settings and sometimes just the littelest diffrence could cause all sorts of issues leading to FC's or something else.
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Didn't know Ti had this issue but MyBackup Pro doesn't. I've flashed different roms to test (always gone back to Fresh because it's just my preferred) and MBPro has always restored apps+data with no issues. The newest version finally doesn't list SU, which always gave me errors back then until I figured not to restore it. Anyways, Ti and MBPro are both great options.

Best way to make a full 100% backup of phone ?

Hi guys .. I have had my Desire Z for a little while and I want to play around with ROMs now ... I am looking for a way to make a *full* backup of the phone .. That means the OS itself, all its settings (alarms, personalization stuff, stored passwords, installed apps, etc ..), all application and personal data (both on ROM and SD card), etc ...
That is, one backup that when restored, returns the complete phone including all its settings and data to the state the phone was in when the backup was created ..
Now there are two Market tools I've found that claim to do something similar: My Backup Pro and Titanium Backup, and I also hear that ClockWorkMod can create backups ...
But I don't know if these tools backup *everything* like I want, so any advice given here would be really appreciated ..

Ok, the only way to make a 100% backup is when you are rooted.
When you are rooted you can use titanium backup to back up all your apps, data & settings. Then when you install a new ROM you can easily restore everything.
The back up you do in CWM is called a nandroid and this backs up your entire ROM including apps, data & settings. as soon as you are rooted you will want to do this so you have a back up of your stock ROM incase anything goes wrong and you need to get your stock ROM easily.
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cjward23 said:
Ok, the only way to make a 100% backup is when you are rooted.
When you are rooted you can use titanium backup to back up all your apps, data & settings. Then when you install a new ROM you can easily restore everything.
The back up you do in CWM is called a nandroid and this backs up your entire ROM including apps, data & settings. as soon as you are rooted you will want to do this so you have a back up of your stock ROM incase anything goes wrong and you need to get your stock ROM easily.
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Ok thanks for that advice ...
So assuming my phone is rooted (it isn't now but I will do it once this issue is resolved), which method is better for me which backs up *everything* (stock OS, personal data, app data, media, settings, SD card stuff, etc ..) ? CWM or Titanium Backup ?
I have heard that CWM doesn't backup everything .. that it leaves some stuff out (not exactly sure what this is though) .. :/

ahmadka said:
Ok thanks for that advice ...
So assuming my phone is rooted (it isn't now but I will do it once this issue is resolved), which method is better for me which backs up *everything* (stock OS, personal data, app data, media, settings, SD card stuff, etc ..) ? CWM or Titanium Backup ?
I have heard that CWM doesn't backup everything .. that it leaves some stuff out (not exactly sure what this is though) .. :/
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never ever ever use TiBU for backing up anything other than downloaded apps. (imo, some people may disagree, but I have never had success with TiBU outside of saving a few downloaded apps... and even then it seems to be hit or miss for me)
CWM is the best option for creating a full backup. when you restore a nandroid backup, it's like going back in time... everything is exactly as it was when that backup was created.

pmcqueen said:
never ever ever use TiBU for backing up anything other than downloaded apps. (imo, some people may disagree, but I have never had success with TiBU outside of saving a few downloaded apps... and even then it seems to be hit or miss for me)
CWM is the best option for creating a full backup. when you restore a nandroid backup, it's like going back in time... everything is exactly as it was when that backup was created.
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Hmm ... Are you absolutely sure that CWM backs up everything ? That is, the stock ROM, all my android's settings, sms, contacts, emails, list of apps installed, app data, my personal data (photos, videos, music, documents, etc ..) ? And does it also backup data from both the built-in memory and stuff on the SD card ?
Reason why I ask this is because this afternoon I came across a thread (can't seem to find it now) where somebody said CWM leaves some stuff out in backing up and then somebody else suggested using Titanium Backup ...
So I want to proceed with CWM only if you're dead sure that it backs up *everyyyyyythinggggg* ...
Btw, I don't mean to question to knowledge, I just want to be sure, thats all

cjward23 said:
Ok, the only way to make a 100% backup is when you are rooted.
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Root + Titanium Backup.

How can we back up the stock rom?? Cwm will not be present on the stock rom. So how?
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mmb_z said:
+1
Root + Titanium Backup.
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Conflicting statements people .. :/
CWM or titanium backup ?
Btw, does titanium backup also backup the stock OS/ROM ?

vikraam said:
How can we back up the stock rom?? Cwm will not be present on the stock rom. So how?
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When you root you will still be using your stock ROM, you then back up your stock rooted ROM. There is no way to back up an unrooted ROM.
Unrooted stock ROM's are available in the form of an official RUU most of which you will find if you read the stickies in the development section of the forums.
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ahmadka said:
Conflicting statements people .. :/
CWM or titanium backup ?
Btw, does titanium backup also backup the stock OS/ROM ?
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Titanium will not back up the os, you can use to back up all of the system apps and data. But as a previous poster said this is not good a good idea as restoring them tends to be problematic.
And don't worry about your sdcard flashing roms will not affect any data on your sdcard.
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mmb_z said:
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Root + Titanium Backup.
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the only thing you could theoretically lose are photos, videos, etc that are stored on the sdcard... but this would only happen if you deleted/formatted the sd card. otherwise, they just move with you from rom to rom.
I don't know what people think titanium backup is for, but seriously... it's not as magnificent as it is commonly made out to be. its only real use is restoring stuff from /data (ie apps and settings). even then, it is known to be problematic. I have used it in the past but I finally got sick of it when I realized that half of the time I used it to backup/restore it ended up doing more harm than good.
CWM is the best option for making a full backup of EVERYTHING on your phone (remember, your sd card is not part of your phone... it doesn't get backed up/restored via CWM). restoring a CWM backup will revert your phone to the exact state it was in at the time of the backup.

I used titanium backup and it worked for everything. Even backed the stuff up to my PC.
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hardy1906 said:
I used titanium backup and it worked for everything. Even backed the stuff up to my PC.
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that's awesome, but you will encounter problems with Ti backup if you try to restore anything from /system after installing a new rom. if you've come from one aosp rom to another, you might get lucky and not have any trouble (especially if they are a similar flavor of aosp), but if you try to restore anything from a sense rom's /system to an aosp rom's /system, or vice versa, you're in for a lot of force closing and general bass-ackwardness.
op: the BEST way is a nandroid backup. if you try and restore titanium backup apps and settings over whichever rom you've installed, you can almost guarantee something will be broken... just do it the right way and do a nandroid backup via CWM and save yourself the trouble.

Guys I forgot to mention, my phone is NOT currently rooted (Yes I realize I should have mentioned this in the first post) .. so what can I use now to backup everything like I want ?

ahmadka said:
Guys I forgot to mention, my phone is NOT currently rooted (Yes I realize I should have mentioned this in the first post) .. so what can I use now to backup everything like I want ?
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Not much really, there are apps available to back up sms and contacts will be synced to Google.

todo backup by easeus...free too. works great
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1) Root.
2) Install CWM Recovery.
3) Nandroid.
There's your backup.

How do you guys do backups when you try out different roms? Am I bound to lose scores and settings in games and apps every time i change rom?
(sorry for what may be a stupid question, but i understood the answers given earlier that making a Nandroid recovery will also recover the rom at the time of the backup not just apps and settings)

glx-rider said:
How do you guys do backups when you try out different roms? Am I bound to lose scores and settings in games and apps every time i change rom?
(sorry for what may be a stupid question, but i understood the answers given earlier that making a Nandroid recovery will also recover the rom at the time of the backup not just apps and settings)
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A nandroid back does a complete back of system, apps, data, and settings. When you restore a nandroid your phone will be restored to the exact point it was at before you preformed the nandroid.
To back up apps and data, you will need to use an app like titanium backup. you then can restore apps and data, including game save and scores after you flash a new rom.
But it is not advised to back up and restore system data and settings with titanium back up

before i rooted i took backups whit MyBackup.
after you get rooted, take Clean CWM backup of your phone.
when you are up and running on a custom rom, take CWM backup, and back up downloaded apps whit Titanium backup.
If you are going from sense rom to sense rom, you dont necessaryli need to wipe your data and apps, so you don't have to restore anything. If you are going for completely different rom, you need wipe everything, after you are running in new rom, you cant get just the apps from cwm backup, it would restore your old rom too, so now restore your apps and stuff from TI backups. and if you don't like the new rom, use CWM backup to go back to your last rom.
so you need both backups cwm and Ti..
and as said before app backups might cause some problems when going from rom to rom
I have been jumping between different MIUI roms, they are basically the same so i haven't wiped anything(except dalvik cache) when flashing new rom, so everything will stay the way they are, and no ned to restore anything, if that's the case.
What comes to the stuff on SDcard, it will be just fine, if you want to back up your pics/music/vids, etc from your sdcard, just copy them to your computer.

Titanium Backup\Nandroid Question

So I haven't found the answer to this yet....
So i had to fully flash and unroot to take it my Gnex back to Verizon and I made a Nandroid backup but now after all is said and done I rerooted and installed a ROM and downloaded Titanium Backup and nothing was there. The folder was gone. I didn't realize it would wipe that folder away. I thought it would be like a factory reset (data/cache/dalvik) like I always do before flashing a new ROM. I don't have a backup of that Titanium backup folder, but is there a chance if I restore from a Nandroid backup up that it'll bring the folder back.
Not quite sure how the restore works in that sense. Any advice or answers would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!

Nope.
A nandroid will restore your apps and such though...
So restore the nandroid (you have a copy on your PC, if I'm understanding correctly?) and create a Titanium Backup then.

Yes I do have a Nandroid backup copy on my PC. Basically I wanted my apps back but wasn't going to do the Nandroid restore if it wasn't going to bring back my apps and data. Now I know to keep a copy of the Titanium back up folder as well as a copy of the Nandroid on my computer so I don't run into this again.
Hopefully I won't have to go back to Verizon soon and have to even worry about it again.
Thanks for your help!
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There's also the option of using the app appextractor. It extracts from your nandroid so you don't have to actually restore the whole thing. I use titanium backup myself, so I've never tried using app extractor to restore apps, but it has the option and it works great for restoring SMS.
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95Z28 said:
There's also the option of using the app appextractor. It extracts from your nandroid so you don't have to actually restore the whole thing. I use titanium backup myself, so I've never tried using app extractor to restore apps, but it has the option and it works great for restoring SMS.
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People sometimes complain of TB force closing during restore and such; which I've never had.
But I did get this when trying to restore applications from a nandroid with Titanium the couple of times I tried.
Granted, this was probably 10 updates ago, not sure if anything has changed.

Titanium backup will extract apps from your nandroid too as previously mentioned. Not sure of the steps as I don't have my phone with me at the moment but I have done it many times. The online help for TB has detailed instructions. Basically you choose extract from nandroid then point it to the nandroid and tick the apps you want restored. presto it restores them, However if you don't have the paid version you will have to do them one at a time. In the future you can set a schedule for TB to send your backup folder to Dropbox or google drive also. That way you can restore from there in case something catastrophic happens.

I haven't had to use it yet so can't say how good it is but the app Nandroid Browser is supposed to allow you to browse thru the backups in memory and you can pick what you want restored.
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Just use Titanium. That's why it has a restore from nandroid option.

Don't like titanium. Never works for me...and yes...i do know how to read the directions but i would still get force close issues on some apps.
Supposedly can extract and restore any file from it. Single apk files...whatever...and move to sd, dropbox...
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Jubakuba said:
People sometimes complain of TB force closing during restore and such; which I've never had.
But I did get this when trying to restore applications from a nandroid with Titanium the couple of times I tried.
Granted, this was probably 10 updates ago, not sure if anything has changed.
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I didn't realize titanium had an extract from nandroid feature. But I never have problems with titanium force closing either, months ago it would hang occasionally during batch restores but that has been fixed.
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I was talking about the app nandroid browser that extracts single files. And i always got fc from titanium. I use app2zip and flash all my apps back in while in recovery at same time as Rom
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JediNinjafication said:
I was talking about the app nandroid browser that extracts single files. And i always got fc from titanium. I use app2zip and flash all my apps back in while in recovery at same time as Rom
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App2zip doesn't restore app data. It's nothing you can't do with a root file explorer. You could easily just copy your apps and stick em in the ROM or Gapps zips too if you didn't care about the data.

jesusice said:
App2zip doesn't restore app data. It's nothing you can't do with a root file explorer. You could easily just copy your apps and stick em in the ROM or Gapps zips too if you didn't care about the data.
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No it doesn't restore data but as long as you don't clear your storage is still there and i don't have any apps that need data restored. I don't play games or anything like that. I did see they have an old final fantasy in play store tho..All my bookmarks are in sync with desktop so those always come back. While not for people who need data restored it works for me since Google hasn't been restoring any of my apps for quite some time. App2zip is so much faster than hunting and installing one by one
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Just curious, couldn't you backup data using titanium and backup apk using that zip method? So you can backup the apk and then flash it, then after restore the data with titanium? Just a thought
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I don't really have any data worth saving. My memory is full of roms, pics, and recovery files. That's about it.
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[Q] Nandroid backup

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I have done some searching and other threads didn't exactly answer my question.
I understand that a Nandroid backup will take you back to the way your phone was before flashing a ROM.
My question is does that include all the installed apps? So like I have my SMS Backup & Restore, Defender II, and Dolphin Browser (just to name a few of the many). So does the Nandroid backup all these apps as well, or just what is on the internal memory?

jacodaburr said:
I have done some searching and other threads didn't exactly answer my question.
I understand that a Nandroid backup will take you back to the way your phone was before flashing a ROM.
My question is does that include all the installed apps? So like I have my SMS Backup & Restore, Defender II, and Dolphin Browser (just to name a few of the many). So does the Nandroid backup all these apps as well, or just what is on the internal memory?
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A nandroid backup is an exactly image of your kernel, system, data, and boot image as well. Your user applications are stored inside the data partition that means yes your applications are in your nandroid too.
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parusia said:
A nandroid backup is an exactly image of your kernel, system, data, and boot image as well. Your user applications are stored inside the data partition that means yes your applications are in your nandroid too.
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YAY Thanks you! I finally got everything working with my current ROM and wanted to experiment with some of the Jelly Bean ROMs, but wanted to make sure all my work wasn't going to go to waste, lol.

Keep in mind though, Nandoid back ups don't always flash/restore like it was before. It's a good temporary fix if something messes up, but not (in my opinion) a permanent solution.
If restored using backups a few times and they always came out buggy, I only use them in case of emergency!

Bluntified said:
Keep in mind though, Nandoid back ups don't always flash/restore like it was before. It's a good temporary fix if something messes up, but not (in my opinion) a permanent solution.
If restored using backups a few times and they always came out buggy, I only use them in case of emergency!
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If it at least restores the ROM itself and everything with that I am fine, which is what I knew it would at least do. Having all my apps there is just a plus! xD

It won't backup your images and songs, and it doesn't come out buggy.

doanthaitu said:
It won't backup your images and songs, and it doesn't come out buggy.
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I try to keep this files on the external as a necessary precaution in case anything ever goes, even when running stock ROM, lol. Thanks though

Newbie - how do I keep apps and configuration in between flashing roms

I know it is a very newbie question, but how can I keep all the apps and configuration when I switch between roms? Does restoring from nandroid backup will restore the phone and configuration to back how it was? Thanks
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nandroid backup will not keep the game data. use titanium backup that's the easiest way

nitropower said:
I know it is a very newbie question, but how can I keep all the apps and configuration when I switch between roms? Does restoring from nandroid backup will restore the phone and configuration to back how it was? Thanks
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Titanium backup will do the trick but sometimes when restoring old data I've had some issues with lots of force closes and some other unexplainable strange things going on. It's best to start fresh on a new rom.

Titanium backup is your answer
If you back up apps and data from your personally installed apps, restoring should not cause any problems. If you try to backup and restore system apps and data across different roms (ie tw and aosp), you're likely to experience some problems.
When it comes to system data, it can be hit or miss. Generally the only thing that will likely break is contacts, as each provider (samsung, htc) puts their own spin on it, and it tends to not be compatible. but if you use google to store your contacts, you should be golden. After some time you'll know which parts are compatible across all roms (within the same version family).
So, backup everything you want to keep. And make a full nandroid.
Install your new rom.
Restore your personal apps and data (like angry birds)
Make sure everything is golden.
Make a nandroid
One by one, restore any system data you want (like accounts, wifi access points, mms).
After each one, go through a reboot cycle, make sure everything works.
Nandroid and restore next system data
This way you can easily back out of a restore that breaks something without having to start over again. And you will get a feel for what's restorable and what isnt.
Beware changing back to 4.1 from 4.2. There are threads on this worth reading.
And, yes, nandroid will restore everything just like you had it, assuming you choose to backup -everything- (which is advisable).
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nitropower said:
I know it is a very newbie question, but how can I keep all the apps and configuration when I switch between roms? Does restoring from nandroid backup will restore the phone and configuration to back how it was? Thanks
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Titanium backup works like charm..but u can restore from nandroid backup too..just install nandroid manager app from play store and restore all ur data including call logs, sms n everything!!
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shakeyfingers said:
nandroid backup will not keep the game data. use titanium backup that's the easiest way
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Through philz CWM I'm currently having 3 roms in my back up. After installing a new rom, I just restore data and all my games data comes back without any problem.
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Titanium is the best thing since sliced bread. Although some apps won't give you notifications if you don't clean install them
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Titanium back, my backup pro
these 2 apps have helped me alot while trying out different roms....sometimes when titanium backup fails i use my backup pro