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wet defy

hi all! in the last two weeks i got a serious battery drain, and i couldnt figure out why, reflashed sbf, calibrated battery dozens of times, etc. now i think ive found the answer: my defy got wet (both white indicators on the battery and under the battery are red, which means contact with water). all right, i did test its waterproofness quite a few times (taken underwater videos, dunk it in beer, listened to music in the shower, etc.), but ive been doing that for a few months now, never had any problems. strange thing is i switched batteries with a friend (hes got a dry defy ), now both phones work fine, no battery drain. seems like wet decice and wet battery equals battery drain anyways, i posted this thread to warn everybody that defy is not so waterproof after all, if it survived swimming once, it doesnt meam itll survive it next time...
sent from my cm7 defy...

Hi. You are lucky. The defy never was water proof, it is water resistant. And even so, I don't thrust the usb cover at all for any kind of tests like those.

Defy is actually pretty much waterproof as far as properties go but like every substance its qualities also tend to fade away. If y'all haven't noticed the phone comes with a guide where there is an indication of a waterproofing agent that is applied on the ridges of the back cover, you should always make sure you haven't wore it out. There are loopholes for the the water to make it inside but if you make sure it can't, it wont.
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i always make sure the back/jack/usb covers are closed, but still somehow the water got in. but it seems that only my battery is damaged, so i really got lucky, cuz i wont jave to replace the phone (i wanted to buy a bigger battery anyway).
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As I said there are always loopholes. I went as far as hosing down on my defy face front soon after there were malfunctions and I could spot water vapors at the screen on the inside. Took it apart, a night in the dry rice containment and it was up and ready the next day. Except for that I casually wet my defy maybe once or twice every week and it turns out fine.
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As for your battery I think your waterproofing agent completely gave away hence favoring that particular anomaly.
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I've heard you have to keep an eye on the grease that lubricates the rubber in the back cover. It dries out or wears off and it allow water in.

Liquid damage indicator on defy

Can anyone do me a favour by uploading a pic of defy's Liquid damage indicator. I just dipped my phone in a glass of water for 10 sec and after that i cud see some water inside the screen. The touch screen either was non responsive or auto responsive. I removed the battery and put the phone in uncooked rice for entire night and then dried in sun for 2 hrs. Now can't see any water and the phone is working gud. But I am worried that the liquid damage indicator might have turned red (which i am not sure where it is located). That can definately void my warranty.

I think there's one on the battery besides the terminals
And one below it a hexagonal structure...
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There is one rectangular indicator on the base of the battery to the left of the conector pins as the battery sits in the phone. I believe the white hexagon above the sim card slot is also a moisture indicator, but cannot confirm.

chuisana said:
I believe the white hexagon above the sim card slot is also a moisture indicator, but cannot confirm.
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Thats the warranty seal I believe.
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can anyone of you extend the favour by uploading a pic of non water damaged so that i can determine whether mine as got water damaged or not. FYI, the phone at the moment is working fine.

ryan8r said:
Thats the warranty seal I believe.
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Maybe...
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for me both indicators are red, so i can confirm those are the indicators (fortunately the only damage the water caused is the battery drainig faster, so i will have tobreplace the battery only).
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i never put my defy in water, i'm very concerned about that

keikun007 said:
i never put my defy in water, i'm very concerned about that
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Dont even try that. Seriously dude, u might not be the lucky one to save ur defy. Moto is a fake. They have been thrown away from india but they came up with android only handsets, failed again. They suck in service and quality. Regret having a moto device .
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brjshshrma said:
Dont even try that. Seriously dude, u might not be the lucky one to save ur defy. Moto is a fake. They have been thrown away from india but they came up with android only handsets, failed again. They suck in service and quality. Regret having a moto device .
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why on earth would you say that???i have been using Motorola handsets for over 5 years now...NEVER had a problem unless and untill i messed up something...and search properly in the box, u will find a note saying that the phone is "water resistant"...its not water proof...so the motorola people are not suggesting to dip your phone in water...anyways, i did it...and my phone is working fine!

abysstheking said:
why on earth would you say that???i have been using Motorola handsets for over 5 years now...NEVER had a problem unless and untill i messed up something...and search properly in the box, u will find a note saying that the phone is "water resistant"...its not water proof...so the motorola people are not suggesting to dip your phone in water...anyways, i did it...and my phone is working fine!
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No offence.
I never dipped it. Only accidently it went in water for 10 sec and a water resistant if not water proof cud have given a diff. result.
Peace....!!!!!
Sent from my Moto Defy

So far I've hosed it down, dropped it in the pool, heck even swam with it in a river no problems with the battery or indicators whatsoever. So I'd say mine is pretty much waterproof.
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All these depends on QC pass when the device was manufatured. Some might have a litte tiny not 100% perfect but was given the PASS from QC. It's base on how lucky you are when you hit the store to buy your Defy. However, it's not wise testing the device water proofness and toughness anyway. It advertised as tough phone and defying everyday life but doesn't mean consumer need to go beaingt and torture it and start complaining when it fail..
....Peace....

brjshshrma said:
Dont even try that. Seriously dude, u might not be the lucky one to save ur defy. Moto is a fake. They have been thrown away from india but they came up with android only handsets, failed again. They suck in service and quality. Regret having a moto device .
Sent from my Moto Defy
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Before putting your Defy in water you need to understand what IP67 means and what is the phoen designed to resist.
I took my Defy to a water park and it was amazing. I have some really cool videos and pics underwater, got a video in a Waterslide and so on.
Few things to understand about IP67:
-Phone resists 30 mins under water, at 1m depth, and NOT MOVING.
Once your phone goes into water you have to avoid rapid moves with it, when you move the phone under water, you can create pressure equivalent to having the phone 50m underwater (standing still).
Another really important thing is the rubber on the USB/Headphone/Battery Cover. You cant touch this rubber, nor apply any kind of oil based grease (Sweat, Vaseline) on it, cause it kills the water resistance attribute of it and actually dryes the rubber.
Its recommended to apply a bit of Silicone based Grease every few months to keep the rubber in good condition, after about 3 years it will eventually lose its properties and start leaking water.
If you are taking your phone to a water-adventure day like I did, I recommend using a bit of duct tape on the USB port and Headphone to avoid it getting accidentaly open.

if i remember rightly the defy isn't actually stated as being ip67 rated..motorola shyed away from it

abysstheking said:
why on earth would you say that???i have been using Motorola handsets for over 5 years now...NEVER had a problem unless and untill i messed up something...and search properly in the box, u will find a note saying that the phone is "water resistant"...its not water proof...so the motorola people are not suggesting to dip your phone in water...anyways, i did it...and my phone is working fine!
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I'm scared of trying to put it in water

brajesh.sharma87 said:
Dont even try that. Seriously dude, u might not be the lucky one to save ur defy. Moto is a fake. They have been thrown away from india but they came up with android only handsets, failed again. They suck in service and quality. Regret having a moto device .
Sent from my Moto Defy
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bro..Moto Is not fake im using from 6 years they never failed on me ..even i have atrix too moto really rocks service may be not good in your area in my area Moto is the Top Seller and most selling phone is razr...in my area Motorola Number one and samsung number 2 And HTC number 3 and Motorola is not failed in india with Android They are innovative if u still dont like your defy then sell it and buy another android phone Please Dont bash anything about Motorola...

I don't believe wich this phone resist 30 min under water!
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KarlosEdw said:
I don't believe wich this phone resist 30 min under water!
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It does.. Tested!

RIP My Motorola Defy :'( [Read please]

Yesterday (2/11/2011) my defy passed away at around 3PM because of this stupid sea water...
-I went in the sea unconscious that my Defy was in my pocket, when I realised, I immediately got out of the water to check it. It was not powering on!! So I dried it, open the rear case and removed everything from it.
Then when I returned home I put it in uncooked rice, and desiccant, but in vain.
-My phone is not really dead, it's in an eternal coma, the phone boots up! That said, I see the blue/green LEDS when I power it on. It even vibrates when booting, but unfortunately the display and the softkeys remain black :'(
(No haptic feedback,no sound, etc)
Update: Haptic feedback works and so do the loudspeaker!
So this is my Defy's story, which lived ~275 days, lol
I wonder how to revive it... If it's possible.
Right now I don't know what phone to buy really... I'm thinking of an LG Optimus Black, dual-core phones are too costly haha.
To not make this thread useless, user are welcomed to post how their defy passed away, and what will be your next phone,etc...

WIIstpM said:
Yesterday (2/11/2011) my defy passed away at around 3PM because of this stupid sea water...
-I went in the sea unconscious that my Defy was in my pocket, when I realised, I immediately got out of the water to check it. It was not powering on!! So I dried it, open the rear case and removed everything from it.
Then when I returned home I put it in uncooked rice, and desiccant, but in vain.
-My phone is not really dead, it's in an eternal coma, the phone boots up! That said, I see the blue/green LEDS when I power it on. It even vibrates when booting, but unfortunately the display and the softkeys remain black :'(
(No haptic feedback,no sound, etc)
So this is my Defy's story, which lived ~275 days, lol
I wonder how to revive it... If it's possible.
Right now I don't know what phone to buy really... I'm thinking of an LG Optimus Black, dual-core phones are too costly haha.
To not make this thread useless, user are welcomed to post how their defy passed away, and what will be your next phone,etc...
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Unlucky mate. My defy ended up bricked somehow so I took it back and said it just broke and got a refund :L
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I really don't think this thread should be in the development-section.

First off, this sould indeed not be in the development section.
Second off your Defy has a 2 year warranty so you can still claim it on warranty, your phone should be able to resist a short time in water. It didnt, so send it to a Motorola cerified repair center and claim you warranty.
Greetings and good luck!

gommers1978 said:
First off, this sould indeed not be in the development section.
Second off your Defy has a 2 year warranty so you can still claim it on warranty, your phone should be able to resist a short time in water. It didnt, so send it to a Motorola cerified repair center and claim you warranty.
Greetings and good luck!
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Hmm I bought it in HK, and I don't know if it's possible to get warranty where I live.. There is no Motorola Mobility in Mauritius (where I live).
Ad yes sorry it should be here :S should be in Defy General

Read the leaflet that came with the phone, in the uk it is 12 months only........

RIP... May the Defy soul in heaven with god now...
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Just look for paid repair service. Your Defy doesn't look so broken, it boots after all. Might be just screen/digitizer which is not that hard to fix.

R.I.P MB525

geecko said:
R.I.P MB525
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Haha thank you! I'm getting better right now... Btw, for the time being I'm using a Nokia 6280 (prehistoric age haha)

Personally I wouldn't give up on it until a week has gone by. I know smartphones are more complex but old Nokias that got wet could take up to a week to dry out fully and then power on.

WIIstpM said:
Yesterday (2/11/2011) my defy passed away at around 3PM because of this stupid sea water...
-I went in the sea unconscious that my Defy was in my pocket, when I realised, I immediately got out of the water to check it. It was not powering on!! So I dried it, open the rear case and removed everything from it.
Then when I returned home I put it in uncooked rice, and desiccant, but in vain.
-My phone is not really dead, it's in an eternal coma, the phone boots up! That said, I see the blue/green LEDS when I power it on. It even vibrates when booting, but unfortunately the display and the softkeys remain black :'(
(No haptic feedback,no sound, etc)
So this is my Defy's story, which lived ~275 days, lol
I wonder how to revive it... If it's possible.
Right now I don't know what phone to buy really... I'm thinking of an LG Optimus Black, dual-core phones are too costly haha.
To not make this thread useless, user are welcomed to post how their defy passed away, and what will be your next phone,etc...
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Haha exact the same thing happend to me. For 25 euros u get a lcd replacement kit on ebay
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mpiekp said:
Read the leaflet that came with the phone, in the uk it is 12 months only........
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Every electronic device sold in the EU must have 2 years Warranty MINIMUM, and there are a few extra things in the UK, if an item gets repaired 2 times, the customer can ask and must receive if asked a new Product if it breaks a third time.
Regarding salty water, even if you manage to make it work its gonna die shortly, the salt destroys everything inside the phone its the worst think that can happen to any electronic device.
And motorola doesnt cover Water Damage, the phone is Water Resistant not Water Proof. I think you cant find any item nowadays in the market labeled and sold as Water Proof
really crappy that it happened

strange how people tend to kill their defys, mine had been underwater a lot (really, taking pictures, going swimming, listening to music in the shower, etc.), and the only problem i got is that water got inside, turned both water damage indicators red (one on the phone just above the motherboard, and one on the battery near the pins), but the only thing that changed is that my battery drains faster.

We all know that there are two kinds of waters that dangerous to electronics: Rains and Sea Salt water.
But I'm thinking. The Defy has at least 12 months of warranty - 365 days, and you use it for over 200 days and give up ? Why not going to the warranty ?
Last, hope you has a better replacement.

MaxLe said:
We all know that there are two kinds of waters that dangerous to electronics: Rains and Sea Salt water.
But I'm thinking. The Defy has at least 12 months of warranty - 365 days, and you use it for over 200 days and give up ? Why not going to the warranty ?
Last, hope you has a better replacement.
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There are a few water indicators in the Defy, outside and inside it. If any of these indicators are red (meaning water got inside) you void your warranty.
The phone is water resistant, not water proof. There is a HUGE difference between both terms, hence all the electronic devices for the past 10 years or more, that can handle water, are labeled as Water Resistant. Not Proof.
zakoo2 said:
strange how people tend to kill their defys, mine had been underwater a lot (really, taking pictures, going swimming, listening to music in the shower, etc.), and the only problem i got is that water got inside, turned both water damage indicators red (one on the phone just above the motherboard, and one on the battery near the pins), but the only thing that changed is that my battery drains faster.
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My phone has also been under water a lot, I took it to a water park not long ago and got into some of those highspeed super awesome Water Slides with it
The problem you are facing is, that probably there is a small short in your battery, once the battery gets wet it tends to get sulfated and that causes the batt to discharge alone. You could just get a new batt

Thanks for all your replies haha.. I think that I'm gaining hope again and I'll try to see the Agency first. Then if it doesn't work eventually I'll visit a Motorola phone retailer (there's HOPEFULLY 1, only 1 in my country haha)

Zephyrot said:
There are a few water indicators in the Defy, outside and inside it. If any of these indicators are red (meaning water got inside) you void your warranty.
The phone is water resistant, not water proof. There is a HUGE difference between both terms, hence all the electronic devices for the past 10 years or more, that can handle water, are labeled as Water Resistant. Not Proof.
My phone has also been under water a lot, I took it to a water park not long ago and got into some of those highspeed super awesome Water Slides with it
The problem you are facing is, that probably there is a small short in your battery, once the battery gets wet it tends to get sulfated and that causes the batt to discharge alone. You could just get a new batt
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i already ordered a 2300mah battery (slim, not extended), will test it tomorrow
sent from my cm7.1 defy...

IMHO if I got the same problem, I will buy a temporary phone, use it and wait until another rugged smartphone not. Maybe it will be the DEFY 2 (Just imagine) with ARMv8 and Lotus Glass (even better than Gorilla Glass)

search xda and youtube on how to open up your defy, its bloody easy, then spray WD40 or isopropyle alcohol to clean the PCB board where rust or water damage is visible, then leave outside to dry for a day.
If the battery did not fry the circuits, then it should still work fine.
worth a try if you cant claim warranty, good luck.

Waterproof?

Someone submerged the HTC One M8 in water for about 90 minutes, it came out just fine. Is this phone waterproof? I haven't seen any specs saying it is, but apparently it's at least water-resistant. Here's the video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhwvXTVQoPM
Thanks to MrMario8 and fernando sor, they posted this video in another thread that got locked.

phsteve said:
Someone submerged the HTC One M8 in water for about 90 minutes, it came out just fine. Is this phone waterproof? I haven't seen any specs saying it is, but apparently it's at least water-resistant. Here's the video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhwvXTVQoPM
Thanks to MrMario8 and fernando sor, they posted this video in another thread that got locked.
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I'm just wondering why the clock background kept changing from black to clear and back.

blackroseMD1 said:
I'm just wondering why the clock background kept changing from black to clear and back.
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It didn't. It did it once - 6PM hit and it went black. I noticed the music player popped up on the screen though.
Obviously I wouldn't go dropping my phone in water to test this but it looks like HTC did manage to isolate the components enough to make it water resistant. I wonder why they didn't advertise it? Probably because of the lack of flaps I guess.
This would likely cause damage to the USB and headphone jack over time but its a cool test of the build quality for sure.

EtherealRemnant said:
This would likely cause damage to the USB and headphone jack over time but its a cool test of the build quality for sure.
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It really is. Good to know that my new phone probably wouldn't self destruct if it got a little rain on it.

blackroseMD1 said:
It really is. Good to know that my new phone probably wouldn't self destruct if it got a little rain on it.
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Yeah I'm happy they improved the already exceptional build quality. The M7 survived the most ridiculous torture test I've seen CNET administer while the S4 failed miserably. HTC has a lot more experience with phones than anyone else but Nokia really so it shouldn't be a surprise that they pulled this off but its still nice to see. And they did it without flaps, that's the real big FU to Sony

The review by CNET suggests this is not true.
The Bad: The One M8’s battery is not removable, making it harder to replace once the battery inevitably wears out. The phone's sealed chassis is not water-resistant, and the One M8's photos look less sharp than competitors'.
http://www.cnet.com/products/htc-one-m8/

ahpatel said:
The review by CNET suggests this is not true.
The Bad: The One M8’s battery is not removable, making it harder to replace once the battery inevitably wears out. The phone's sealed chassis is not water-resistant, and the One M8's photos look less sharp than competitors'.
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nobody is claiming this phone was made to be water resistant. However, spending 1hr and 30 mins in water indicates you dont have to worry about splasehes/rain/ etc.. dont take it diving and be careless

Is the removable battery even a big deal now days? Who keep their phone for more than 2 years now anyway?
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I don't see why it shouldn't be waterproof. Just another feature everyone else will have. But I could also see the point of not advertising it as water resistant. I sure wish this was confirmed.

ggreenwood334 said:
I don't see why it shouldn't be waterproof. Just another feature everyone else will have. But I could also see the point of not advertising it as water resistant. I sure wish this was confirmed.
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the ports arent covered. they will wear out and get ruined. so no its not water resistant

Well speaking as someone who dropped their HTC One down the toilet last week (I was drunk) and waking up the next day and the phone is dead and only remembering what happened the phone turns on fine after charging it but I've tried 3 different SIM cards and they won't work and it won't turn off anytime I close it down it reboots, tried putting it in bag of rice, etc but doesn't work so I'm left with my beloved one which is unusable just as well I've insurance (even if the excess is an outrageous €95) and when I get a new one I'll sell it and buy new M8,but getting back to the original point I would be delighted if the new M8 was waterproof after what happened to me.
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They couldn't have awesome speakers and still water proof. Most likely..
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colts187 said:
They couldn't have awesome speakers and still water proof. Most likely..
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Why not? Sony did it with the Z2.
Speakers aren't a major entry point for water, ports are.

EtherealRemnant said:
Why not? Sony did it with the Z2.
Speakers aren't a major entry point for water, ports are.
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And not even all ports.. The Sony Z ultra gpe doesn't have a cover over the headphone jack. My friend who had the Z was surprised because he said the Z had a cover over the headphone jack.
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colts187 said:
They couldn't have awesome speakers and still water proof. Most likely..
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Yes I agree that Sony got it right with the z2. However it did take a couple of generations for them to get it right. External speakers even on the z1 is not very good. Reviewers always pointed to the waterproofing as the cause of the low speaker volume.
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jonny68 said:
Well speaking as someone who dropped their HTC One down the toilet last week (I was drunk) and waking up the next day and the phone is dead and only remembering what happened the phone turns on fine after charging it but I've tried 3 different SIM cards and they won't work and it won't turn off anytime I close it down it reboots, tried putting it in bag of rice, etc but doesn't work so I'm left with my beloved one which is unusable just as well I've insurance (even if the excess is an outrageous €95) and when I get a new one I'll sell it and buy new M8,but getting back to the original point I would be delighted if the new M8 was waterproof after what happened to me.
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Not sure if you worded that out of order - but the whole idea of the rice, is to do it BEFORE attempting to turn it on. If you tried to turn it on before letting it sit a few days in rice, thats the point where the damage is done. (Turning it on still moist)

Watch carefully through the video, I have to question its authenticity.
If you notice, there are bubbles coming from the headphone jack. At multiple times the quantity and speed of these increase, often when the camera comes back on after altering it's position. I know the camera was said to run out of storage space etc, however the bubbles suggests that the phone has been removed and replaced.

thats with the bubbles i also saw - and when bubbles can go outside normally water can go inside too.
aluminium and water also not best friends. in my eyes the video is fake or manipulated.

My M8 got splashed with a glass of water and the screen died in seconds. After doing the rice thing for a day, it wont light back up, though the screen does still register touch. It is NOT water proof, and doesn't seem to be very resistant either, as it was a small amount that splashed on it.

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My M8 got splashed with a glass of water and the screen died in seconds. After doing the rice thing for a day, it wont light back up, though the screen does still register touch. It is NOT water proof, and doesn't seem to be very resistant either, as it was a small amount that splashed on it.
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Maybe build quality varies. I spilled a whole glass on it and absolutely nothing happened. Screen, and also the speakers, works great as before. I tested them immediately. Maybe I was just lucky. But still, a whole glass, and I saw how the water filled every speaker hole.

G3 is water resistant?

Seems like the g3 has some level of water resistance like the HTC m8. It still worked fine after being submerged for 2hours.
LG G3 Water Test - Is it Water Resistant?: http://youtu.be/qQlEi-W7GCE
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ziggazee said:
Seems like the g3 has some level of water resistance like the HTC m8. It still worked fine after being submerged for 2hours.
LG G3 Water Test - Is it Water Resistant?: http://youtu.be/qQlEi-W7GCE
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Wouldn't ever try this. Ever.

I haven't held a g3 yet but its build looks a lot like the galaxy line of phones and the only things they added to the s5 to make it water resistant is a small bead of something on the lid that acts like weather stripping and a water tight lid for the usb 3 slot. Just add a bead of caulking to the g3 lid and buy a case with a usb cover. I bet you would be just as water resistant as any phone that is right out of box.

That link was for the G Watch which is rated for water and dust resistance. You can just make your phone ip67 proof that easily there's a lot involved, the speaker for one has a nano water resistant coating of I remember correctly . ip67 is a lot harder to get than you think, the Z2 is only ip55 or 58? Which is lower than the 67 of the s5, but Sony has a higher water rating allowing it to be submerged deeper for a longer time.
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I didn't even think about the speakers

Pilz said:
That link was for the G Watch which is rated for water and dust resistance. You can just make your phone ip67 proof that easily there's a lot involved, the speaker for one has a nano water resistant coating of I remember correctly . ip67 is a lot harder to get than you think, the Z2 is only ip55 or 58? Which is lower than the 67 of the s5, but Sony has a higher water rating allowing it to be submerged deeper for a longer time.
Edit: the link said g watch but it was the G3 my mistake.
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ThePagel said:
I didn't even think about the speakers
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Well the guy who made the video said the speaker and in call microphone still works perfectly even after a day so I reckon this phone has some level of ip rating.
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Lostatsea23 said:
Wouldn't ever try this. Ever.
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True.. I think I would be hesitant to even try this using the z2 or g5 both of which are officially waterproof/resistant.. I damaged my s3 when I accidentally dropped that in the toilet lol the speaker stopped working and the screen would go blank every now and then. So its nice to know the g3 may survive if accidentally drop in a puddle
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Battery dropped to 19% after 2 hours. Couldn't tell what it started at but looked pretty full.

I wouldn't try it with my G3, it seems to be fake.
Even the Z2 is not covered by the guarantee if it fail due to water, so....
"Don't try at home!"

Most electronics are water resistant providing the water is very clean.
Try that in seawater and I'm sure the end result will be far different. (ruined phone!)
In that "test" at the end there were beads of water under the back cover. That's a fail right there. Just because the device is still running does not mean it can be subjected to this abuse.
Also the water depth is very shallow in a wash bowl not even half filled! Trying this at the bottom of a pool in a meter of water would have resulted in very different results! Pool water is also far more conductive and if it's a salt water pool!!!
Bottom line, outside of a case with proven water proofing, keep your devices dry. Otherwise, all bets are off on reliability down the road.

cpufrost said:
Most electronics are water resistant providing the water is very clean.
Try that in seawater and I'm sure the end result will be far different. (ruined phone!)
In that "test" at the end there were beads of water under the back cover. That's a fail right there. Just because the device is still running does not mean it can be subjected to this abuse.
Also the water depth is very shallow in a wash bowl not even half filled! Trying this at the bottom of a pool in a meter of water would have resulted in very different results! Pool water is also far more conductive and if it's a salt water pool!!!
Bottom line, outside of a case with proven water proofing, keep your devices dry. Otherwise, all bets are off on reliability down the road.
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Was about to say this. It's the ions (minerals) in water that make it more conductive and short your devices. It's why you can submerge PC's in super clean oil for cooling and still have them work. Don't ever submerge your phone if avoidable.

People are idiots.
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yes it is
Unfortunately and as gross as this sounds...I dropped mine in the toilet. It was submerged for atleast 10 seconds before i realized. Dont ask. Just make sure you put it fully in your pocket before standing. After a full sanitizing...and I mean full...it still works fine. No issuses at all. Never turned off...never flickered...
Although I do have an Otterbox on it. That probably helped.

Pilz said:
That link was for the G Watch which is rated for water and dust resistance.
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Did you even watch the video?
But I agree, I wouldn't attempt this with my phone.

Well.. I have seen videos of the submergence testing on the G3 and it coming out okay from it. But if it actually were true manufacturers would jump to label & sell it as it makes a great marketing point.
But LG didn't, and they must have a reason for it. That's why I wouldn't go too careless with my phone.

meyerweb said:
Did you even watch the video?
But I agree, I wouldn't attempt this with my phone.
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I did actually and it was for the G Watch. I am aware that it was supposed to be the G3 but I wouldn't put mine in water.

It is not water resistant. Never been advertised as . don't spread ridiculous info mate !!!

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I did actually and it was for the G Watch. I am aware that it was supposed to be the G3 but I wouldn't put mine in water.
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The something's weird, because the video I saw when clicking on that link very clearly shows a G3 dunked in a glass bowl full of water. Not a Gwatch in sight.

I can say that my phone survived after being in a my swimming trunks for 1 hour before I realized I jumped in the pool while it was still in my pocket. I didnt realized that I had swam with it until after I got out. The phone was dead, but then I immediately removed the battery cover and battery. After shaking the water out a bit, pushing the water out through the usb and phone jack holes, I then let it dry out in the sun while I reluctantly tried not to let it ruin my vacation.
Later on that night I used a blow dryer to blow warm air into any and all holes I could see in the phone case. Then I put in a spare battery and the phone started right up! Granted the lower half of my screen had some moisture in it. I can tell because the screen was really bright there. So I turned the phone off, pulled the battery and started blow drying a bit more. After restarting, i noticed the moisture in the screen was less.
A few days later I would say my phone is fully recovered. Speakers work fine, microphone, bluetooth, gps, wifi, etc. I am semi surprised, but not so much because of the lack of moving parts in the phone. for instance, my ipod classic with a hard drive never recovered.
The only thing that I do not think has fully recovered is the battery that was submerged. this battery does not seem to hold a charge as good as it used to. but thats fine... as long as I didnt have to replace my phone. Luckily I had the spare battery already.