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RIP My Motorola Defy :'( [Read please]

Yesterday (2/11/2011) my defy passed away at around 3PM because of this stupid sea water...
-I went in the sea unconscious that my Defy was in my pocket, when I realised, I immediately got out of the water to check it. It was not powering on!! So I dried it, open the rear case and removed everything from it.
Then when I returned home I put it in uncooked rice, and desiccant, but in vain.
-My phone is not really dead, it's in an eternal coma, the phone boots up! That said, I see the blue/green LEDS when I power it on. It even vibrates when booting, but unfortunately the display and the softkeys remain black :'(
(No haptic feedback,no sound, etc)
Update: Haptic feedback works and so do the loudspeaker!
So this is my Defy's story, which lived ~275 days, lol
I wonder how to revive it... If it's possible.
Right now I don't know what phone to buy really... I'm thinking of an LG Optimus Black, dual-core phones are too costly haha.
To not make this thread useless, user are welcomed to post how their defy passed away, and what will be your next phone,etc...

WIIstpM said:
Yesterday (2/11/2011) my defy passed away at around 3PM because of this stupid sea water...
-I went in the sea unconscious that my Defy was in my pocket, when I realised, I immediately got out of the water to check it. It was not powering on!! So I dried it, open the rear case and removed everything from it.
Then when I returned home I put it in uncooked rice, and desiccant, but in vain.
-My phone is not really dead, it's in an eternal coma, the phone boots up! That said, I see the blue/green LEDS when I power it on. It even vibrates when booting, but unfortunately the display and the softkeys remain black :'(
(No haptic feedback,no sound, etc)
So this is my Defy's story, which lived ~275 days, lol
I wonder how to revive it... If it's possible.
Right now I don't know what phone to buy really... I'm thinking of an LG Optimus Black, dual-core phones are too costly haha.
To not make this thread useless, user are welcomed to post how their defy passed away, and what will be your next phone,etc...
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Unlucky mate. My defy ended up bricked somehow so I took it back and said it just broke and got a refund :L
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I really don't think this thread should be in the development-section.

First off, this sould indeed not be in the development section.
Second off your Defy has a 2 year warranty so you can still claim it on warranty, your phone should be able to resist a short time in water. It didnt, so send it to a Motorola cerified repair center and claim you warranty.
Greetings and good luck!

gommers1978 said:
First off, this sould indeed not be in the development section.
Second off your Defy has a 2 year warranty so you can still claim it on warranty, your phone should be able to resist a short time in water. It didnt, so send it to a Motorola cerified repair center and claim you warranty.
Greetings and good luck!
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Hmm I bought it in HK, and I don't know if it's possible to get warranty where I live.. There is no Motorola Mobility in Mauritius (where I live).
Ad yes sorry it should be here :S should be in Defy General

Read the leaflet that came with the phone, in the uk it is 12 months only........

RIP... May the Defy soul in heaven with god now...
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Just look for paid repair service. Your Defy doesn't look so broken, it boots after all. Might be just screen/digitizer which is not that hard to fix.

R.I.P MB525

geecko said:
R.I.P MB525
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Haha thank you! I'm getting better right now... Btw, for the time being I'm using a Nokia 6280 (prehistoric age haha)

Personally I wouldn't give up on it until a week has gone by. I know smartphones are more complex but old Nokias that got wet could take up to a week to dry out fully and then power on.

WIIstpM said:
Yesterday (2/11/2011) my defy passed away at around 3PM because of this stupid sea water...
-I went in the sea unconscious that my Defy was in my pocket, when I realised, I immediately got out of the water to check it. It was not powering on!! So I dried it, open the rear case and removed everything from it.
Then when I returned home I put it in uncooked rice, and desiccant, but in vain.
-My phone is not really dead, it's in an eternal coma, the phone boots up! That said, I see the blue/green LEDS when I power it on. It even vibrates when booting, but unfortunately the display and the softkeys remain black :'(
(No haptic feedback,no sound, etc)
So this is my Defy's story, which lived ~275 days, lol
I wonder how to revive it... If it's possible.
Right now I don't know what phone to buy really... I'm thinking of an LG Optimus Black, dual-core phones are too costly haha.
To not make this thread useless, user are welcomed to post how their defy passed away, and what will be your next phone,etc...
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Haha exact the same thing happend to me. For 25 euros u get a lcd replacement kit on ebay
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mpiekp said:
Read the leaflet that came with the phone, in the uk it is 12 months only........
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Every electronic device sold in the EU must have 2 years Warranty MINIMUM, and there are a few extra things in the UK, if an item gets repaired 2 times, the customer can ask and must receive if asked a new Product if it breaks a third time.
Regarding salty water, even if you manage to make it work its gonna die shortly, the salt destroys everything inside the phone its the worst think that can happen to any electronic device.
And motorola doesnt cover Water Damage, the phone is Water Resistant not Water Proof. I think you cant find any item nowadays in the market labeled and sold as Water Proof
really crappy that it happened

strange how people tend to kill their defys, mine had been underwater a lot (really, taking pictures, going swimming, listening to music in the shower, etc.), and the only problem i got is that water got inside, turned both water damage indicators red (one on the phone just above the motherboard, and one on the battery near the pins), but the only thing that changed is that my battery drains faster.

We all know that there are two kinds of waters that dangerous to electronics: Rains and Sea Salt water.
But I'm thinking. The Defy has at least 12 months of warranty - 365 days, and you use it for over 200 days and give up ? Why not going to the warranty ?
Last, hope you has a better replacement.

MaxLe said:
We all know that there are two kinds of waters that dangerous to electronics: Rains and Sea Salt water.
But I'm thinking. The Defy has at least 12 months of warranty - 365 days, and you use it for over 200 days and give up ? Why not going to the warranty ?
Last, hope you has a better replacement.
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There are a few water indicators in the Defy, outside and inside it. If any of these indicators are red (meaning water got inside) you void your warranty.
The phone is water resistant, not water proof. There is a HUGE difference between both terms, hence all the electronic devices for the past 10 years or more, that can handle water, are labeled as Water Resistant. Not Proof.
zakoo2 said:
strange how people tend to kill their defys, mine had been underwater a lot (really, taking pictures, going swimming, listening to music in the shower, etc.), and the only problem i got is that water got inside, turned both water damage indicators red (one on the phone just above the motherboard, and one on the battery near the pins), but the only thing that changed is that my battery drains faster.
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My phone has also been under water a lot, I took it to a water park not long ago and got into some of those highspeed super awesome Water Slides with it
The problem you are facing is, that probably there is a small short in your battery, once the battery gets wet it tends to get sulfated and that causes the batt to discharge alone. You could just get a new batt

Thanks for all your replies haha.. I think that I'm gaining hope again and I'll try to see the Agency first. Then if it doesn't work eventually I'll visit a Motorola phone retailer (there's HOPEFULLY 1, only 1 in my country haha)

Zephyrot said:
There are a few water indicators in the Defy, outside and inside it. If any of these indicators are red (meaning water got inside) you void your warranty.
The phone is water resistant, not water proof. There is a HUGE difference between both terms, hence all the electronic devices for the past 10 years or more, that can handle water, are labeled as Water Resistant. Not Proof.
My phone has also been under water a lot, I took it to a water park not long ago and got into some of those highspeed super awesome Water Slides with it
The problem you are facing is, that probably there is a small short in your battery, once the battery gets wet it tends to get sulfated and that causes the batt to discharge alone. You could just get a new batt
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i already ordered a 2300mah battery (slim, not extended), will test it tomorrow
sent from my cm7.1 defy...

IMHO if I got the same problem, I will buy a temporary phone, use it and wait until another rugged smartphone not. Maybe it will be the DEFY 2 (Just imagine) with ARMv8 and Lotus Glass (even better than Gorilla Glass)

search xda and youtube on how to open up your defy, its bloody easy, then spray WD40 or isopropyle alcohol to clean the PCB board where rust or water damage is visible, then leave outside to dry for a day.
If the battery did not fry the circuits, then it should still work fine.
worth a try if you cant claim warranty, good luck.

[FIX] Defy Water damaged touchscreen

This is a working method:
1. dry your defy screen with hair dryer for 2 minutes and stop, then you will have semi working touchscreen
2. wait 2 minutes and dry again for 1 minute.
3. do step 2 4 times and your touchscreen will be fully working.
(P.S Try to Use the touchscreen in the waiting times.)

The best way, by which I saved my defy:
immediately take out the battery.
put it in rice container for around 7-8 hours. (the container must have raw rice )
after that, put it in the sun for around 2-3 hours.
it will never have any problem due to water damage.

What are you guys talking about?
I even talk on my defy while taking a shower. Nothing happens.
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shadenight said:
What are you guys talking about?
I even talk on my defy while taking a shower. Nothing happens.
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you represent a danger to your defy! XD
It's water resistant, not water proof, that's a big difference ^^
Sent from my 1Ghz CM7 + CM9 Defy

It can go around 1mt depth in water for around 30 minutes, if that's not water proof..

Even I take defy in shower!
I don't care!
Never had a problem...
Once fell in the tub... Qatar saw if there's no water at battery... then kept in towel... no problem!
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Ive fallen in a river sailing with my defy in the pocket, its fine, never had a problem with water
teamwork makes the dream work

"It's water resistant, not water proof, that's a big difference ^^
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There's something called ip67.
Defy has it. You should probably check it out.
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shadenight said:
"It's water resistant, not water proof, that's a big difference ^^
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There's something called ip67.
Defy has it. You should probably check it out.
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Not officially. So you can't go to Moto and say "Your IP67 certification didn't work". Maybe they built it to match that spec and even tested, but they do not really advertise it as certified. Plus the box it comes in itself includes a message similar to the one you quoted, that it is only water resistant. They imply it can handle only splashes of water safely. You should probably check it out.

Tejus-
: watch out, we got a badass over here:
Google it if you don't know what it is
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I have taken shower with my Defy - listening to music, making phone calls - no problem what so ever! Not to mention it's taking a dive in a fish tank on a daily basis as I work at a store where we sell them... Imagine how impressed customer is when you just take your personal phone out of your pocket and throw it in the fish tank... They are like...

Mine was in my pocket and it got wet for like 3 seconds on the beach; I did the whole rice bag stuff and it still had moisture under the screen, the power button stopped working and the light sensor didn't work. The first 2 got fixed when I opened it and let it dry again (and after hitting the power button like a mad man), the light sensor doesn't work anymore.
I guess it's only sweet water resistant.

In December, I ran out to my car in a very heavy rain and drop my Defy in the open parking lot. Didn't notice it and I drove away only to realized I lost my phone when I reached home. Went back to the same parking lot after like 30min and found it on the parking floor soaking wet and still facing the heavy rain. I just wipe the Defy on my jeans and press power button.. and surprised everything perfectly normal no problem at all.. It simply Defying drop and defying water.. Great stuff!!

It IS waterproof and IP67 certified. My manual states so. May be Motorola doesn`t advertise it in every country as such as they might get more legal problems in some countrys that way...

I dropped my defy+ in the dog cage. A lot of snow. Went back to sleep, waiting for the alarm. There was no alarm so I looked for the phone. I found it buried in the snow in the front of my door.
With teeth marks all over, because the dog thought that it was a toy. Probably the alarm made him stop. But it did have an hour of play.
So yes, it is a tough phone.

shorty66 said:
It IS waterproof and IP67 certified. My manual states so. May be Motorola doesn`t advertise it in every country as such as they might get more legal problems in some countrys that way...
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Motorola had to retract those statements, IIRC

Yup.... They had advertised it a bit initially, then the IP67 certification 'disappeared'. I think there was some old thread somewhere here discussing it ages ago...
Anyway as of now no official IP67 for defy. Dunno about defy+ though...
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Badass
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Don't worry mate. Defy is the new Nokia 3310 :-D
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Waterproof?

Someone submerged the HTC One M8 in water for about 90 minutes, it came out just fine. Is this phone waterproof? I haven't seen any specs saying it is, but apparently it's at least water-resistant. Here's the video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhwvXTVQoPM
Thanks to MrMario8 and fernando sor, they posted this video in another thread that got locked.

phsteve said:
Someone submerged the HTC One M8 in water for about 90 minutes, it came out just fine. Is this phone waterproof? I haven't seen any specs saying it is, but apparently it's at least water-resistant. Here's the video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhwvXTVQoPM
Thanks to MrMario8 and fernando sor, they posted this video in another thread that got locked.
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I'm just wondering why the clock background kept changing from black to clear and back.

blackroseMD1 said:
I'm just wondering why the clock background kept changing from black to clear and back.
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It didn't. It did it once - 6PM hit and it went black. I noticed the music player popped up on the screen though.
Obviously I wouldn't go dropping my phone in water to test this but it looks like HTC did manage to isolate the components enough to make it water resistant. I wonder why they didn't advertise it? Probably because of the lack of flaps I guess.
This would likely cause damage to the USB and headphone jack over time but its a cool test of the build quality for sure.

EtherealRemnant said:
This would likely cause damage to the USB and headphone jack over time but its a cool test of the build quality for sure.
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It really is. Good to know that my new phone probably wouldn't self destruct if it got a little rain on it.

blackroseMD1 said:
It really is. Good to know that my new phone probably wouldn't self destruct if it got a little rain on it.
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Yeah I'm happy they improved the already exceptional build quality. The M7 survived the most ridiculous torture test I've seen CNET administer while the S4 failed miserably. HTC has a lot more experience with phones than anyone else but Nokia really so it shouldn't be a surprise that they pulled this off but its still nice to see. And they did it without flaps, that's the real big FU to Sony

The review by CNET suggests this is not true.
The Bad: The One M8’s battery is not removable, making it harder to replace once the battery inevitably wears out. The phone's sealed chassis is not water-resistant, and the One M8's photos look less sharp than competitors'.
http://www.cnet.com/products/htc-one-m8/

ahpatel said:
The review by CNET suggests this is not true.
The Bad: The One M8’s battery is not removable, making it harder to replace once the battery inevitably wears out. The phone's sealed chassis is not water-resistant, and the One M8's photos look less sharp than competitors'.
http://www.cnet.com/products/htc-one-m8/
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nobody is claiming this phone was made to be water resistant. However, spending 1hr and 30 mins in water indicates you dont have to worry about splasehes/rain/ etc.. dont take it diving and be careless

Is the removable battery even a big deal now days? Who keep their phone for more than 2 years now anyway?
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I don't see why it shouldn't be waterproof. Just another feature everyone else will have. But I could also see the point of not advertising it as water resistant. I sure wish this was confirmed.

ggreenwood334 said:
I don't see why it shouldn't be waterproof. Just another feature everyone else will have. But I could also see the point of not advertising it as water resistant. I sure wish this was confirmed.
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the ports arent covered. they will wear out and get ruined. so no its not water resistant

Well speaking as someone who dropped their HTC One down the toilet last week (I was drunk) and waking up the next day and the phone is dead and only remembering what happened the phone turns on fine after charging it but I've tried 3 different SIM cards and they won't work and it won't turn off anytime I close it down it reboots, tried putting it in bag of rice, etc but doesn't work so I'm left with my beloved one which is unusable just as well I've insurance (even if the excess is an outrageous €95) and when I get a new one I'll sell it and buy new M8,but getting back to the original point I would be delighted if the new M8 was waterproof after what happened to me.
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They couldn't have awesome speakers and still water proof. Most likely..
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colts187 said:
They couldn't have awesome speakers and still water proof. Most likely..
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Why not? Sony did it with the Z2.
Speakers aren't a major entry point for water, ports are.

EtherealRemnant said:
Why not? Sony did it with the Z2.
Speakers aren't a major entry point for water, ports are.
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And not even all ports.. The Sony Z ultra gpe doesn't have a cover over the headphone jack. My friend who had the Z was surprised because he said the Z had a cover over the headphone jack.
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colts187 said:
They couldn't have awesome speakers and still water proof. Most likely..
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Yes I agree that Sony got it right with the z2. However it did take a couple of generations for them to get it right. External speakers even on the z1 is not very good. Reviewers always pointed to the waterproofing as the cause of the low speaker volume.
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jonny68 said:
Well speaking as someone who dropped their HTC One down the toilet last week (I was drunk) and waking up the next day and the phone is dead and only remembering what happened the phone turns on fine after charging it but I've tried 3 different SIM cards and they won't work and it won't turn off anytime I close it down it reboots, tried putting it in bag of rice, etc but doesn't work so I'm left with my beloved one which is unusable just as well I've insurance (even if the excess is an outrageous €95) and when I get a new one I'll sell it and buy new M8,but getting back to the original point I would be delighted if the new M8 was waterproof after what happened to me.
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Not sure if you worded that out of order - but the whole idea of the rice, is to do it BEFORE attempting to turn it on. If you tried to turn it on before letting it sit a few days in rice, thats the point where the damage is done. (Turning it on still moist)

Watch carefully through the video, I have to question its authenticity.
If you notice, there are bubbles coming from the headphone jack. At multiple times the quantity and speed of these increase, often when the camera comes back on after altering it's position. I know the camera was said to run out of storage space etc, however the bubbles suggests that the phone has been removed and replaced.

thats with the bubbles i also saw - and when bubbles can go outside normally water can go inside too.
aluminium and water also not best friends. in my eyes the video is fake or manipulated.

My M8 got splashed with a glass of water and the screen died in seconds. After doing the rice thing for a day, it wont light back up, though the screen does still register touch. It is NOT water proof, and doesn't seem to be very resistant either, as it was a small amount that splashed on it.

candytripn said:
My M8 got splashed with a glass of water and the screen died in seconds. After doing the rice thing for a day, it wont light back up, though the screen does still register touch. It is NOT water proof, and doesn't seem to be very resistant either, as it was a small amount that splashed on it.
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Maybe build quality varies. I spilled a whole glass on it and absolutely nothing happened. Screen, and also the speakers, works great as before. I tested them immediately. Maybe I was just lucky. But still, a whole glass, and I saw how the water filled every speaker hole.

G3 is water resistant?

Seems like the g3 has some level of water resistance like the HTC m8. It still worked fine after being submerged for 2hours.
LG G3 Water Test - Is it Water Resistant?: http://youtu.be/qQlEi-W7GCE
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ziggazee said:
Seems like the g3 has some level of water resistance like the HTC m8. It still worked fine after being submerged for 2hours.
LG G3 Water Test - Is it Water Resistant?: http://youtu.be/qQlEi-W7GCE
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Wouldn't ever try this. Ever.

I haven't held a g3 yet but its build looks a lot like the galaxy line of phones and the only things they added to the s5 to make it water resistant is a small bead of something on the lid that acts like weather stripping and a water tight lid for the usb 3 slot. Just add a bead of caulking to the g3 lid and buy a case with a usb cover. I bet you would be just as water resistant as any phone that is right out of box.

That link was for the G Watch which is rated for water and dust resistance. You can just make your phone ip67 proof that easily there's a lot involved, the speaker for one has a nano water resistant coating of I remember correctly . ip67 is a lot harder to get than you think, the Z2 is only ip55 or 58? Which is lower than the 67 of the s5, but Sony has a higher water rating allowing it to be submerged deeper for a longer time.
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I didn't even think about the speakers

Pilz said:
That link was for the G Watch which is rated for water and dust resistance. You can just make your phone ip67 proof that easily there's a lot involved, the speaker for one has a nano water resistant coating of I remember correctly . ip67 is a lot harder to get than you think, the Z2 is only ip55 or 58? Which is lower than the 67 of the s5, but Sony has a higher water rating allowing it to be submerged deeper for a longer time.
Edit: the link said g watch but it was the G3 my mistake.
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ThePagel said:
I didn't even think about the speakers
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Well the guy who made the video said the speaker and in call microphone still works perfectly even after a day so I reckon this phone has some level of ip rating.
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Lostatsea23 said:
Wouldn't ever try this. Ever.
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True.. I think I would be hesitant to even try this using the z2 or g5 both of which are officially waterproof/resistant.. I damaged my s3 when I accidentally dropped that in the toilet lol the speaker stopped working and the screen would go blank every now and then. So its nice to know the g3 may survive if accidentally drop in a puddle
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Battery dropped to 19% after 2 hours. Couldn't tell what it started at but looked pretty full.

I wouldn't try it with my G3, it seems to be fake.
Even the Z2 is not covered by the guarantee if it fail due to water, so....
"Don't try at home!"

Most electronics are water resistant providing the water is very clean.
Try that in seawater and I'm sure the end result will be far different. (ruined phone!)
In that "test" at the end there were beads of water under the back cover. That's a fail right there. Just because the device is still running does not mean it can be subjected to this abuse.
Also the water depth is very shallow in a wash bowl not even half filled! Trying this at the bottom of a pool in a meter of water would have resulted in very different results! Pool water is also far more conductive and if it's a salt water pool!!!
Bottom line, outside of a case with proven water proofing, keep your devices dry. Otherwise, all bets are off on reliability down the road.

cpufrost said:
Most electronics are water resistant providing the water is very clean.
Try that in seawater and I'm sure the end result will be far different. (ruined phone!)
In that "test" at the end there were beads of water under the back cover. That's a fail right there. Just because the device is still running does not mean it can be subjected to this abuse.
Also the water depth is very shallow in a wash bowl not even half filled! Trying this at the bottom of a pool in a meter of water would have resulted in very different results! Pool water is also far more conductive and if it's a salt water pool!!!
Bottom line, outside of a case with proven water proofing, keep your devices dry. Otherwise, all bets are off on reliability down the road.
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Was about to say this. It's the ions (minerals) in water that make it more conductive and short your devices. It's why you can submerge PC's in super clean oil for cooling and still have them work. Don't ever submerge your phone if avoidable.

People are idiots.
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yes it is
Unfortunately and as gross as this sounds...I dropped mine in the toilet. It was submerged for atleast 10 seconds before i realized. Dont ask. Just make sure you put it fully in your pocket before standing. After a full sanitizing...and I mean full...it still works fine. No issuses at all. Never turned off...never flickered...
Although I do have an Otterbox on it. That probably helped.

Pilz said:
That link was for the G Watch which is rated for water and dust resistance.
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Did you even watch the video?
But I agree, I wouldn't attempt this with my phone.

Well.. I have seen videos of the submergence testing on the G3 and it coming out okay from it. But if it actually were true manufacturers would jump to label & sell it as it makes a great marketing point.
But LG didn't, and they must have a reason for it. That's why I wouldn't go too careless with my phone.

meyerweb said:
Did you even watch the video?
But I agree, I wouldn't attempt this with my phone.
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I did actually and it was for the G Watch. I am aware that it was supposed to be the G3 but I wouldn't put mine in water.

It is not water resistant. Never been advertised as . don't spread ridiculous info mate !!!

Pilz said:
I did actually and it was for the G Watch. I am aware that it was supposed to be the G3 but I wouldn't put mine in water.
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The something's weird, because the video I saw when clicking on that link very clearly shows a G3 dunked in a glass bowl full of water. Not a Gwatch in sight.

I can say that my phone survived after being in a my swimming trunks for 1 hour before I realized I jumped in the pool while it was still in my pocket. I didnt realized that I had swam with it until after I got out. The phone was dead, but then I immediately removed the battery cover and battery. After shaking the water out a bit, pushing the water out through the usb and phone jack holes, I then let it dry out in the sun while I reluctantly tried not to let it ruin my vacation.
Later on that night I used a blow dryer to blow warm air into any and all holes I could see in the phone case. Then I put in a spare battery and the phone started right up! Granted the lower half of my screen had some moisture in it. I can tell because the screen was really bright there. So I turned the phone off, pulled the battery and started blow drying a bit more. After restarting, i noticed the moisture in the screen was less.
A few days later I would say my phone is fully recovered. Speakers work fine, microphone, bluetooth, gps, wifi, etc. I am semi surprised, but not so much because of the lack of moving parts in the phone. for instance, my ipod classic with a hard drive never recovered.
The only thing that I do not think has fully recovered is the battery that was submerged. this battery does not seem to hold a charge as good as it used to. but thats fine... as long as I didnt have to replace my phone. Luckily I had the spare battery already.

Have you put your Z1C underwater?

hey guys. I've got this phone for a month now but still haven't checked the waterproofness. Did you try it the first day you got it? should I be super careful with this? I'm scared. I even though it's advertised as waterproof..

Yeap, I've tried it underwater. The screen responsiveness changes, else everything works, including the camera.

not worth the risk, there are enough reports about water damage

I'm tried to test the limits of the phone (i know it could be ridiculous). So I've swum for more than an hour and the phone was under more or less 1,5 m (limit recommended by Sony). It has survived for a moment...Once out i dried it. It has worked for some hours until the battery comes empty. No way to charge it anyway, a component of my battery was dead...I've send it to repair center claiming I had only let it fall in water and they replaced it by a new one
moral of the history don't try to put it in the water just for fun

I have used mine on water several times for several hours, and it's still working fine.
In fact I have tried it the very first day, this way if it's waterproofing was flawed, I would have returned it under warranty.
Now that my phone is more than a year old, i am obviously less keen to put it under water.

I've made lots videos underwater. Dunk phone in beer, whiskey. Dropped it in river. It even got some salty water after i remembered it beeing forbidden.
The phone is waterproof. If not warranty replaces for free. If you got by third party then they often try to make some bs excuse not to deal with it.
The golden rule: if you use miniusb to charge you wear out the rubber flap and it will not be waterproof, if you use dock you won't have this problem.

New Folder said:
I've made lots videos underwater. Dunk phone in beer, whiskey. Dropped it in river. It even got some salty water after i remembered it beeing forbidden.
The phone is waterproof. If not warranty replaces for free. If you got by third party then they often try to make some bs excuse not to deal with it.
The golden rule: if you use miniusb to charge you wear out the rubber flap and it will not be waterproof, if you use dock you won't have this problem.
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Not at all: Sony even explicitly states that water damage is not their problem. If you trick them, or if you're nice, they might help you out, but they're under no obligation to.

dazzerfong said:
Not at all: Sony even explicitly states that water damage is not their problem. If you trick them, or if you're nice, they might help you out, but they're under no obligation to.
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Where i bought it from they said water damage is under warranty.
Why would they advertise the phone in water or spilling water on it if the warranty won't cover it? The salesperson dunk the phone in water to show it was fully waterproof and without leaks before selling it to me.

New Folder said:
Where i bought it from they said water damage is under warranty.
Why would they advertise the phone in water or spilling water on it if the warranty won't cover it? The salesperson dunk the phone in water to show it was fully waterproof and without leaks before selling it to me.
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That's a salesman tactic, but there's no guarantee. If you don't believe me, feel free to and go ahead and go nuts with your phone.
BTW, who told you it's under warranty? The sales staff? I personally asked a technical support person this question (in lieu of some other problems I had) this, and they said no, it's not covered under warranty.

You should be very careful if you try it underwater.. On my first time, the micro usb cover opened up and the phone was damaged, with no warranty by anyone ?
I had to open it up and dry it with hair dryer for an hour.. (and since then it's still non-waterproof)
Conclusion - be careful ?
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My phone got damaged by water in the third time that I put it under water. Seems like due overheating (I was playing, charging and wearing a bumper case at the same time) the back and the back frame unglued in the Sim tray area. I remembered how the screen started to flick and how the water comes out from Sim tray ?. I used a hair dryer and at this moment the phone is working fine?. I replaced the back frame (also, it solves the gaps in the middle where are the magnetic charging and the Lock/Volume buttons). By now, I am waiting the rear cover, it should arrive in 15days. But after that bad experience I won't put the phone in water anymore.

Btw, does anybody knows if there's a difference between fresh water and seawater/ pool water?
I've been told from Sony that the warranty is only on fresh water damage..
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Salt water leaves salty residue on the phone and is also more corrosive than fresh water. So, Sony won't cover damage in salt water.
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Submerged my z1c in a glass of water upon getting it just to check if it's waterproof. A week later, i used it at the beach and it got submerged pretty often in saltwater that day but no water damage. Occasionally i wash my phone with soap under running water maybe every 2-4 weeks(I'm a germaphobe...) My friends also like to take my phone and submerge it in water randomly for fun. I guess it's also because of me that a number of them ended up buying the z2 and later z3 :laugh:

dazzerfong said:
That's a salesman tactic, but there's no guarantee. If you don't believe me, feel free to and go ahead and go nuts with your phone.
BTW, who told you it's under warranty? The sales staff? I personally asked a technical support person this question (in lieu of some other problems I had) this, and they said no, it's not covered under warranty.
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We have local Sony technics who said that. They work couple blocks away from my house and i actually did pay a visit there.

New Folder said:
We have local Sony technics who said that. They work couple blocks away from my house and i actually did pay a visit there.
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Same here.. They said that I'll have warranty only on damage from fresh water, not seawater etc.
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ok thank you all for replies and sorry for being so inactive.
I'm not going to dump it in the water on purpose I think. Even if it's sold as waterproof I'm scared. it was too expensive and it's too amazing phone to just kill it for no reason.
also yes I'm going to buy a dock asap.
thank you again guys!

nas93 said:
Submerged my z1c in a glass of water upon getting it just to check if it's waterproof. A week later, i used it at the beach and it got submerged pretty often in saltwater that day but no water damage. Occasionally i wash my phone with soap under running water maybe every 2-4 weeks(I'm a germaphobe...) My friends also like to take my phone and submerge it in water randomly for fun. I guess it's also because of me that a number of them ended up buying the z2 and later z3 [emoji23]
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I wipe my phone every day with a wet towel [emoji14]
but mostly to erase fingerprints etc.

mag cable instead of dock
Ephixi4 said:
ok thank you all for replies and sorry for being so inactive.
I'm not going to dump it in the water on purpose I think. Even if it's sold as waterproof I'm scared. it was too expensive and it's too amazing phone to just kill it for no reason.
also yes I'm going to buy a dock asap.
thank you again guys!
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About the dock.... It might be cheaper to just buy the mag cable if you want to use your phone while it's charging and save some money. Amazon has a few brands selling these types of cables or adapters when i last bought mine. Or you can check with the stores where you live.
http://www.amazon.com/Magnector-Improved-Performance-Magnetic-Charging/dp/B00Q3GK3YI/

nas93 said:
About the dock.... It might be cheaper to just buy the mag cable if you want to use your phone while it's charging and save some money. Amazon has a few brands selling these types of cables or adapters when i last bought mine. Or you can check with the stores where you live.
http://www.amazon.com/Magnector-Improved-Performance-Magnetic-Charging/dp/B00Q3GK3YI/
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actually I meant just the cable but thank you!
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