Will it be worth it for our phone?
We can't even get a smooth sense 3.X ROM running gingerbread
HTC had to make a dual core phone just to run 3.5 run well.
The only legit sense we have is the stock. And that's the sense used last year.
Do you think sense 3/4.X running ICS will even be worth it for the dinc 2?
.........opinions
Not sure what all the fuss is over "smoothness", any rom I've tried, Sense or otherwise, seems to run pretty smooth for me.
Second, any version of sense other than what came on the phone is a hacked port from another phone. If there are any performance issues, I don't think you can necessarily blame the hardware completely. Just the nature of the beast (the beast being a Frankenstein version of android)
Third, even without fully working drivers, the available versions of ICS run pretty darn smooth if you ask me, so I would think an official Sense on official ICS (and all the optimized driver support that comes from being official) would be pretty smooth.
But personally, I really dislike Sense, in all its incarnations, so I'm just waiting for CM9.
Guys, just post in the ICS discussion thread we already have. This is gonna get closed.
Related
can someone please help me understand the difference between these two? How does Sense 3.0 fit in with Gingerbread 2.3 or 2.4? Does it?
jminor4326 said:
can someone please help me understand the difference between these two? How does Sense 3.0 fit in with Gingerbread 2.3 or 2.4? Does it?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
To the best of my knowledge, Sense and Android versions are independent of each other. For our purposes, there is a very high likelyhood of getting a stock upgrade to Gingerbread on the EVO 4G (some say impending OTA very soon), but a low chance of us ever seeing Sense 3.0.
Pretty sure we won't see an official Sense 3.0 for our phones...but one can hope? Some of the 3.0 stuff looks awesome!
I don't think there is much difference between froyo and gingerbread. The froyo kernel still works on GB roms. I believe sense 3 is a GB based rom. 2.0- 2.1 are made in both varieties but it doesn't seem to add anything by being based on GB versus froyo.
Sense 3.0 seems to be suited for tablet also. There are minor changes to the way it works. The lock screen has shortcuts on it, cosmetic changes and I did notice the music player now can download cover art. Other than that I have not noticed any major enhancements. HTC hub is starting to work but gives me problems when using a different skin.
is it just me or do it seem like the all the roms with the sense 3.0 on it the widget respond slow??
Jcki4 said:
is it just me or do it seem like the all the roms with the sense 3.0 on it the widget respond slow??
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You can't expect a Rom that's not even suppose to be on our phone to be fully functional and stable. It was originally said that our phone wouldn't be able handle sense 3.0 but these devs proved everyone wrong. They ported it over and little by little the bugs are being worked on and being improved. It's not yet completely stable but I use it as my daily driver and the only problem I have is with battery.
Sent from my PC36100 using Tapatalk
Sense 3.0 slow?
tony0691 said:
You can't expect a Rom that's not even suppose to be on our phone to be fully functional and stable. It was originally said that our phone wouldn't be able handle sense 3.0 but these devs proved everyone wrong. They ported it over and little by little the bugs are being worked on and being improved. It's not yet completely stable but I use it as my daily driver and the only problem I have is with battery.
Sent from my PC36100 using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The above statement is true. For example, HTC EVO has the older version of Sense. Truth be told, since Sense 3.0 isn't native for the EVO, or the official rom that was designed for the EVO, one can expect maybe a second lag and the occasional unstableness.
I myself am running 2.3.3 with Sense 3.0 on my EVO, credit due to "Virus," one of the many genius devs here at XDA.
Remember, our phones are like world and life -- not perfect. The devs on the other hand -- pure genius -- FACT!
yea your right but i did my research on the sense 3.0 and i never came across them saying htc evo coudnt handle it and in some of the reviews i was reading bout the rom before i try it they said it was pretty stable but the devs pshh im ready to open my bank acct to them they are all pure genus for doing this for the evo and sharing it with ppl
but i just was scare that the 3.0 sense was actually laging on the widget responds but thank you guys for clearing that up
Since a lot of stuff is still wonky/glitchy, and the ICS ports are still not perfect.
Is the point of getting ICS just to say you have it?
Or are there certain advantages to running ICS that I am not aware of?
I am on ILWT btw.
Why run ILWT?
Biggest reason I run it is because the UI to me is THAT much better than GB or anything else I've used. The ROMs are stable enough, fast enough, and include all the features I need to get by day to day.
This sounds more of a troll post, but meh.
I've been running ICS since Andromadus alpha 1, and as a DD since alpha 4. Yes there have been several glitches (alpha 5 was unusable) and several things broken such as the camera, but running an alpha or beta build is what produces the feedback and usage stats the devs need to make a great RC. It also kicks the OEM's in the tail to release drivers and possibly new roms for our devices if the devs AND users can illustrate a need. Aside from that, ICS can renew an aging device with new functionality and refined looks. I've rediscovered my own aging device, and for the first time started to realize its capabilities as a real, almost tablet-like, computing device and not just an alarm clock or a way for telemarketers and my wife to bug me.
Sent from my Andromadus ICS HTC Vision using TapaTalk
It is not a troll post. I am running ILWT because it is stable, fast, and the battery life is great.
If I am not going to use the stock ICS ui, then should I even bother switching to ICS?
Like, I have a custom Go Launcher theme that is pretty damn sick, and I never use the stock apps for anything except stock market...
convolution said:
It is not a troll post. I am running ILWT because it is stable, fast, and the battery life is great.
If I am not going to use the stock ICS ui, then should I even bother switching to ICS?
Like, I have a custom Go Launcher theme that is pretty damn sick, and I never use the stock apps for anything except stock market...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I must say the ICS Roms are much smoother than any other rom I've ever used and I've had a single hot reboot since first DD worthy release. Battery isn't remarkable but that is cause they haven't been optimized yet, stabilize then optimize. In your case I might wait more for optimized, but hey! Nandroid, wipe, install and try it a bit, you may just fall in love !
That is sound advice, noneabove.
Yes, I do believe the best thing to do at this point is for me to stfu and try it.
ICS ROMS are great. The best reason in my opinion is for developing/ testing purposes. They are smooth and stable.
Sent from my HTC Vision Ice Cream Sandwich
i flash every update to test it but its a looong way from me using it.
not as stable, not as funtionable, not as good batterylife and right now, not the same performance.
so i use ILWT for same reasons as you until the ICS roms are atleast as good.
i figure that there are enough people reporting bugs anyway, they dont need me.
atm im using cm7.2 on everyday basis but i do like to test other/newer roms to see if they might got some additional functionality i could need..
like actualy usb host mode what doesnt seem to work on cm7.. ive read it should work from ics on so im happy projects like virtuousrom exist to im able to try
As of right now what is currently the fastest/smoothest Sense rom that is still being supported by the dev? Any comments are appreciated
As far as still supported you might be hard to find consitency...
My opinions would be for:
TeeROM 3.0 - developers "final" version
Stock+ 3.01 - Not getting active dev but its by far one of the best Sense roms.
McSense 2.6 - Another solid but non-dev rom
Edit: The likelyhood of finding a sense rom 2.1 or higher that is fast on the incredible is very unlikely. Way to resource needy.
bukithd said:
As far as still supported you might be hard to find consitency...
My opinions would be for:
TeeROM 3.0 - developers "final" version
Stock+ 3.01 - Not getting active dev but its by far one of the best Sense roms.
McSense 2.6 - Another solid but non-dev rom
Edit: The likelyhood of finding a sense rom 2.1 or higher that is fast on the incredible is very unlikely. Way to resource needy.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
My port of MikG is snappy and trouble free. Of course I could be a little biased. Lol. But seriously. It is the best Sense 2.1 + ROM as far as stability and speed. That's why I ported over the newest version for us. Try it at theMikMik. MikG Incredible forum. I think you'll be pleased.
Sent from my HTC Droid Incredible
I'd say any of the Sense 1.0 roms should be fine. If you want one without bloat, or many tweaks, Liberation 3.0 would fit the bill. It's been tested for stability. It is the final version though.
McSense is also a good choice for some theming and tweaks.
I just avoid any rom based off of another phone (port). Including Sense 3.0+
Personally I run a custom cm7 kang that I've stripped down and removed everything I deemed unnecessary. Turned off animations, use Launcher Pro, and it flies faster than any Sense rom.
Sent from my ADR6300 using XDA App
I would have to go with mikg man, this thing flys !
Sent from my ADR6300 using xda premium
What parts of sense are you wanting intact? If you're simply looking to stay away from AOSP, my experience with Insensitive Minimalist has been excellent. Very fast and designed to be highly customizable. I like it so much for its stability and compatibility I keep flashing back to my backup of that while I wait on issues to get hammered out of ICS. My other dinc is running Stock+, so if you want a ROM that is mostly stock, its also good. Inc Ultimate looks like its worth a try, but I haven't gotten around to it.
Ultimately, "still in development" is something I don't think applies to any sense Rom at the moment, as most of the really active devs seem to have moved on to other devices.
I flashed MikG and so far I'm loving it How is it with Gingertiny kernel?
I haven't tried them all, but have tried a few of the Sense 3.5 roms - and of course my stock Sense 2 roms - Virtuous Unity, Sense...quite slow and laggy.
Also tried BeatMod Bliss Sense - again same story...slow, laggy.
But just switched from G-Lite 2 (non sense rom( to MikRoms MikRunny 1.0 and for a Sense 3.5 based rom it's FAST. Faster than my original slow Gingerbread ROM, actually!
Add Supercharger script and a SDcard partition and you're flying ;-)
Oh I have a Desire Z, so RAM/speed is a real issue. So impressive that a ROM could run anything about Sense 2 at anything but prehistoric speeds :-D
So I'm dying to have ICS on my phone, but I need my phone to work completely. I also don't think the DI2 gets a lot a development rom wise so this maybe a stupid question but is there any stable ICS roms out there? In all likely-hood I'm just going to wait for a stable version of CM9.
Stable is comparative.
However, since the phone is designed to run Sense...I feel that we will have to wait for a proper Sense build of ICS to fully enjoy Sense ICS or AOSP ICS.
Even then...on gingerbread's AOSP ROM's ported for our phones I always had issues with video acceleration (hardware). Netflix wouldnt play properly. Some games experienced lag. Ports are not easy, and while mostly functional will more than certainly lack the full 'experience' that the stock ROM covers.
Our devs do some really great work to allow us to try out different types of ROM's. Even their hands are tied with certain aspects of each ROM - and reverse engineering is not as easy as one may think.
With this being said, try out a few of the builds available to determine what is stable for you.
nothing will be fully stable until HTC and Qualcomm release the appropriate drivers for ICS. Hopefully, sometime before the summer, but who really knows.