[Q] Questions about my rooted Galaxy W - Samsung Galaxy W I8150

Thank you everyone in this forum for your great work. I have rooted my Galaxy W with the tutorial in this forum, but i have some questions and i would be very thankful if you help me
1) I've rooted my phone! (no ROM) Can i update the android system (2.3.6) or it will make problems?
2) Does flashing a ROM means that everything will be deleted? (like apps, contacts, settings)
3) If yes, can i backup all these and restore them (after flashing) as they were before?
4) Can i remove a ROM anytime i want and restore my phone as it was? If yes how can i do this?
5) What is the best rom for Galaxy w?
Thank you!

anioannides said:
Thank you everyone in this forum for your great work. I have rooted my Galaxy W with the tutorial in this forum, but i have some questions and i would be very thankful if you help me
1) I've rooted my phone! (no ROM) Can i update the android system (2.3.6) or it will make problems?
2) Does flashing a ROM means that everything will be deleted? (like apps, contacts, settings)
3) If yes, can i backup all these and restore them (after flashing) as they were before?
4) Can i remove a ROM anytime i want and restore my phone as it was? If yes how can i do this?
5) What is the best rom for Galaxy w?
Thank you!
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1) You can Update to 2.3.6. Rooting via Recovery method is currently supporting every firmware version.
2) It depends on the firmware. If it is a OnePackage-file firmware upgrade, than no, if it is a many files firmware(asian firmwares), than yes. But a backup is recommended in both cases.
3) Yes, you will have to have ClockWorkMethod. Scroll down to Other and download ClockWorkMod and flash it using the instruction.(Contact me if somethin isn't clear)
4) ClockWorkMod is enabling restore and backup facilities, so if you keep a backup on your SD card, all you have to do is restore it(after maybe backing up the current ROM). If you want the stock recovery back, you can download and install it in the section Other of the above mentioned thread.
5) Cows ROM seems promising, but I personally am waiting for arco65's CyanogenMod9 (it has Android 4.0).
greets
THE-E

thank you for your responce!
about my 1st question.. I currently have 2.3.6. When a new version comes out, can i update my phone? Will i have to root it again?

anioannides said:
thank you for your responce!
about my 1st question.. I currently have 2.3.6. When a new version comes out, can i update my phone? Will i have to root it again?
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After every update via Kies you will have to root again, if you update via OTA(stock recovery needed) root should stay(not sure).
greets
THE-E

thank you very much!

Related

How can you save your current ROM?

hello is there away to do the title of this thread?
I have a unbranded ROM but it's loaded with my operators Data settings, and I'll be loathed to type them in if I decide to return to the stock ROM, so is there a way to save your current ROM incase it goes wrong, or your flash and decide to go back?
TIA Luke.
Nandroid backup - which you will certainly be doing before flashing anything new. Won't you?
Thinks - you are rooted aren't you?
diablous said:
hello is there away to do the title of this thread?
I have a unbranded ROM but it's loaded with my operators Data settings, and I'll be loathed to type them in if I decide to return to the stock ROM, so is there a way to save your current ROM incase it goes wrong, or your flash and decide to go back?
TIA Luke.
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Search for r6-desire-root.zip, follow first link in google.
If it fails try it on another os (or pc), it will always succeed
ROM Manager backup. Copy it to your PC for safe keeping.
JohnSteveDoe said:
ROM Manager backup. Copy it to your PC for safe keeping.
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..with rom manager it really works great; also the restore procedure works - I tried it.
thanks guys,
new to this ROM flashing on the Android OS, so it's all new however the community is being great as always
Does anyone know if you can back up your ROM without root, before gaining root access?
Desire_this! said:
Does anyone know if you can back up your ROM without root, before gaining root access?
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Simple answer is no, it can't be done. You need root to backup your rom.
Actually, you don't need root to do a nandroid backup. Just a custom recovery.
LBTaylor1984 said:
thanks guys,
new to this ROM flashing on the Android OS, so it's all new however the community is being great as always
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I am new to this, coming from iphone. I just love all the features and customizations availalbe.
Rooting on my galaxys4 was easy. thanks all
Thanks for this info too. just what i was looking for.
:good:
If you have rooted and installed any decent backup software they can backup the entire rom and all settings.
Then even if you mess up your phone and boot loop it, as long as you can get into recovery you can restore everything.
So it serves multiple purposes, I prefer this method to rom manager and titanium backup.

Updated Rooted Device - Constant Reboot

Hi,
I need quick help. I unthinkably installed accepted to install a OTA update (2.29.405.5) on my Stock HTC ROM, forgetting that I had rooted my phone and the update was unsuccessful telling me that 'E:failed to verify whole- file signature'. Could someone tell me what to do next.
Thank you in advance.
Deeco7 said:
Hi,
I need quick help. I unthinkably installed accepted to install a OTA update (2.29.405.5) on my Stock HTC ROM, forgetting that I had rooted my phone and the update was unsuccessful telling me that 'E:failed to verify whole- file signature'. Could someone tell me what to do next.
Thank you in advance.
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If you can boot into recovery, then wipe all data & restore the latest nandroid backup you had.
If you can't then install an Official HTC RUU ROM (but after that you need to root it again).
The OTA will have replaced the recovery so that can't be done. Flash the 2.29.405.5 RUU, root again and then restore the last nandroid you did
nagypapi said:
If you can boot into recovery, then wipe all data & restore the latest nandroid backup you had.
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Brilliant! +1.
One more thing: Can you direct me to a guide to updating rooted device?
Deeco7 said:
Brilliant! +1.
One more thing: Can you direct me to a guide to updating rooted device?
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A rooted device?
1. You update it manually from a .zip file, but then you have to ROOT it again.
I do not reccomend this one, because it can cause bootloops, or simply just won't work (depends on many factors).
2. Flash a custom ROM (even pre-rooted custom stock ROMs are on the site). A full list of ROMs can be found here.
As you've just found out, you can't update a rooted stock ROM so you answered your own question
Can I un-root then update OTA and then re-root, or will that cause problems too?
You can't unroot without flashing an RUU so you might as well flash the 2.29.405.5 RUU and then root that
Wow, what a headache. Is there anything else besides 'automatic download to sd card of apps' that has changed in this update that is worth flashing to?
If I decide to go ahead. Will I be able to use my nandroid backup?
Deeco7 said:
Wow, what a headache. Is there anything else besides 'automatic download to sd card of apps' that has changed in this update that is worth flashing to?
If I decide to go ahead. Will I be able to use my nandroid backup?
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This is what I've found (no changelog tough):
The first positive HTC Desire firmware change is that apps are now installed directly to the SD card for downloading, and I no longer go through the hassle of downloading and then move.
A couple of minor negative:
- The HTC Desire live wallpaper you can get “stuck”. By this I mean that if you use the stock HTC wallpaper live and go to the big screen to the left, a dark blue, to launch an app is a widget, then do not go back directly to the main page, the wall paper will continue to live on the left side of the Most of the screens (ie, that home screen is a darker blue). It looks cool when it happens.
- This HTC Desire update configures the application to sync kits. Just disable it again, then everything is fine.
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And you can use your nandroid backup (when you restore - it will use the previous version not this new one).
nagypapi said:
(when you restore - it will use the previous version not this new one).
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Sorry, I didn't understand this clearly, could you clarify.
I mean if you restore that it will overwrite the RUU version you want to flash.
Oh okay, I think I will stay with '2.29.405.2' for now, not worth updating or the hassle. Thanks both for the help.
Just wanted to know if there is an alternative way to back up apps and data when I choose to upgrade to latest firmware, and not have to worry about compatiblity or fw version. Thanks.

[Q] How to tell which ROM I've flashed?

I can see Android v4.1.1 on System, About, but I totally forget what ROM I flashed. One of the more popular ones, last October or so. How do I tell what is on the phone?
Thanks, and sorry for the dumb question...
Dougmeister said:
I can see Android v4.1.1 on System, About, but I totally forget what ROM I flashed. One of the more popular ones, last October or so. How do I tell what is on the phone?
Thanks, and sorry for the dumb question...
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Don't you have the rom zip saved? It should say what rom it is. Although you should know what you are flashing.
Sent from my Clean Bean v2.6 Galaxy S3
Dougmeister said:
I can see Android v4.1.1 on System, About, but I totally forget what ROM I flashed. One of the more popular ones, last October or so. How do I tell what is on the phone?
Thanks, and sorry for the dumb question...
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System settings / build number
Sent from my blue galaxy
miller710 said:
System settings / build number
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Hmmm. Maybe I never *did* flash anything...
"Build number JRO03L.L710VPBLJ7"
Doesn't that mean plain old Jelly Bean?
I vaguely remember installing Clockwork Mod so I could get JellyBean early.
I guess I want to uninstall Clockwork Mod so I can do OTA updates from Sprint, etc. I found these threads, but they are for Galaxy Tab 2...:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1800175How to Uninstall Clockwork Mod Recovery?[/URL]
[ODIN STOCK ROM] GT-P3113 Stock ROM for Odin flash
But since last fall, I've had to re-install Windows.
So, two questions:
1) Jellybean is standard on Galaxy S3's by now, right?
2) What do I need to install on my PC to uninstall Clockwork Mod Recovery? Odin? Anything else?
Thanks.
Dougmeister said:
Hmmm. Maybe I never *did* flash anything...
"Build number JRO03L.L710VPBLJ7"
Doesn't that mean plain old Jelly Bean?
I vaguely remember installing Clockwork Mod so I could get JellyBean early.
I guess I want to uninstall Clockwork Mod so I can do OTA updates from Sprint, etc. I found these threads, but they are for Galaxy Tab 2...:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1800175How to Uninstall Clockwork Mod Recovery?[/URL]
[ODIN STOCK ROM] GT-P3113 Stock ROM for Odin flash
But since last fall, I've had to re-install Windows.
So, two questions:
1) Jellybean is standard on Galaxy S3's by now, right?
2) What do I need to install on my PC to uninstall Clockwork Mod Recovery? Odin? Anything else?
Thanks.
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I would suggest searching the Q&A thread for all this. You should read up before you start installing roms or doing any mods to your phone.
Sent from my Freeza MC3 Stock Rooted Galaxy S3
TheSocalGuy79 said:
I would suggest searching the Q&A thread for all this. You should read up before you start installing roms or doing any mods to your phone.
Sent from my Freeza MC3 Stock Rooted Galaxy S3
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Thanks. Will do.
Dougmeister said:
Hmmm. Maybe I never *did* flash anything...
"Build number JRO03L.L710VPBLJ7"
Doesn't that mean plain old Jelly Bean?
I vaguely remember installing Clockwork Mod so I could get JellyBean early.
I guess I want to uninstall Clockwork Mod so I can do OTA updates from Sprint, etc. I found these threads, but they are for Galaxy Tab 2...:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1800175How to Uninstall Clockwork Mod Recovery?[/URL]
[ODIN STOCK ROM] GT-P3113 Stock ROM for Odin flash
But since last fall, I've had to re-install Windows.
So, two questions:
1) Jellybean is standard on Galaxy S3's by now, right?
2) What do I need to install on my PC to uninstall Clockwork Mod Recovery? Odin? Anything else?
Thanks.
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Might I interject here? If the only reason you want to go back to stock recovery is to get the OTA updates, I personally don't think you need to. Typically, Freeza has the most up-to-date Stock, Rooted Rom over in his thread. In my case, he usually has it well before I get the OTA notification from Sprint. If you think his thread is daunting to look at, you really only want to flash one of the following (I always remove direct links to the Roms out of respect for the dev's):
freeza said:
[size=+4]Leaked Builds[/size]
MC3 Full ROM (DeOdex): Sprint Touchwiz Jelly Bean 4.1.2 L710VPBMC3 | Mirror (Thanks HashTagHell)
MD5: 8D714F25612D2CA8F103A63DF902E607
[size=+4]Official Software[/size]
FULL ROM:
DeOdex:
Sprint Touchwiz Jelly Bean 4.1.2 L710VPBMB1 | Mirror | Mirror 2 (Not yet active)
MD5: 37E1CCCB3A30959C64DF238D0BD2B23C
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The MC3 Rom is a leak of a new OTA that might come out soon (or it'll be incorporated in a future OTA). The MB1 Rom is the most current, stock Rom. All you have to do is flash it and you're updated. If you need help with how to flash it, you can look to my post over here. Since you're going from 4.1.1 to 4.1.2, I'd recommend a "clean install" (step 5 in my instructions) just to minimize the chance of Force Closes, but you should be good if you want to do a "dirty flash" (only wipe cache and dalvik cache). If you dirty-flash, though, any and all troubleshooting will boil down to doing a clean install and seeing if the problem persists.
Also, CNexus has written up a really good OTA Guide to help you understand the whole OTA thing more and to recognize your options. You can check out his post over here.
Hope this helps!
Edit: It might also be good to update your Recovery before proceeding. Depending on how old your CWM is, it might be best to get an updated one (with hopefully fewer bugs). Thankfully, Naddict has created updates that are flashable from the Recovery itself. All you have to do is download the one you want (I'm using TWRP 2.5.0.0, but CWM is fine, too) and flash it in your custom Recovery, then reboot into recovery again.
topherk, thanks!
I took your advice and upgraded my ClockworkMod. (I also installed TWRP, which I think overwrote it, but that's another story).
I'm going to go over your post in more detail (hopefully) this weekend.
I tried flashing some different ROMs to see what they were like. I was not impressed, so I went back to stock.
Can you tell me something? If I use TWRP to back up everything, I still need to install GAPPS, right? Then I need to do something with GAPPS and Platinum Backup before I wipe/re-install to keep all/most of my programs/settings, right? Then run GAPPS again after I flash the new ROM?
Dougmeister said:
I took your advice and upgraded my ClockworkMod. (I also installed TWRP, which I think overwrote it, but that's another story).
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Yeah, you can only have one recovery installed at once. I use TWRP, others use CWM. In my opinion, it shouldn't matter too much. They're both good and as far as I'm aware, the newest of each are relatively bug-free. The only thing is once you have backups for one, you can't restore them with the other. This isn't that big of a deal, but just an FYI.
Dougmeister said:
Can you tell me something? If I use TWRP to back up everything, I still need to install GAPPS, right? Then I need to do something with GAPPS and Platinum Backup before I wipe/re-install to keep all/most of my programs/settings, right? Then run GAPPS again after I flash the new ROM?
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I'll break your questions here:
As far as I'm aware, all TouchWiz Roms include GAPPS in them by default. Of the flip side, no AOSP Roms will include them. This is because Google has asked dev's to not include them (in a Rom) unless specifically approved by Google. Samsung has gotten that approval for their TW framework, so any Rom based on TW can (and do) include GAPPS. If you're in doubt and the Rom doesn't say, first re-read the thread, as it's a common question. Then you can just flash the Rom without GAPPS and load up your phone. If GAPPS is included, you'll have a play store. If not, then you can just reboot into recovery and install it. Easy as pie.
I believe you mean Titanium Backup (another precious metal). Using TiBk, I actually have an automatic restore done every morning at 3am. Then if I decide to flash a new Rom, I always have an up-to-date backup of my apps. I never restore system apps, as that's just asking for trouble when switching Roms. I always back up my messages and phone log, but nothing that's red in TiBk. And for most apps, you don't have to restore data (only the app). I only restore data for games and apps like Hulu so I don't have to log in again.
Hoep this helps!
Yeah stock based roms will include GAPPS, AOSP roms cant because they arent officially licensed to distribute them...
As for the original question, I think I have it figured out. If you go to /system/build.prop and open that file, the great majority of devs will modify the relevant lines to the name of their custom roms. On cm roms theres a line called "cm.version=", which devs will usually modify that on a CM rom
The name is in there somewhere...could be changed on a couple lines, or on ALL the relevant lines, but it will be changed most of the time
Hope this helps
Is there a way to just directly upgrade Jellybean from 4.1.1 to 4.1.2 without having to re-install (via Gapps?) all of my applications, etc.?
I thought I read that I could unroot, do the OTA upgrade, then root again? I'm reading the OTA guide by CNexus, and 'freezing' the update app seems like a good option, but that just keeps the nag screen away.
Dougmeister said:
Is there a way to just directly upgrade Jellybean from 4.1.1 to 4.1.2 without having to re-install (via Gapps?) all of my applications, etc.?
I thought I read that I could unroot, do the OTA upgrade, then root again? I'm reading the OTA guide by CNexus, and 'freezing' the update app seems like a good option, but that just keeps the nag screen away.
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All you need to do is follow the guide. You can download the MB1 firmware from freezas thread, and then flash an updated version of your rom. If you are on stock rooted, then you can flash one of freezas plain stock rooted roms over what you have (i would recommend a backup first though)
Just a small correction Gapps strictly refers to Google made apps (maps, play store, books, etc) you usually only flash these when working with AOSP roms. You sound like your talking about Touchwiz roms and thus your not loading all your apps through gapps, because Gapps are already included with Touchwiz roms. What you are referring to is reloading all your apps through Google Play Store and using the Google restore feature.
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Yes! I'm talking about:
1) Backing up everything on my Galaxy S3
2) Installing other ROMs (sometimes stock, sometimes AOSP)
(side question: "stock" = "TouchWiz"???)
3) Magically re-installing *all* of my apps in the new ROM by clicking a single button
To do that, I'll need to use the "Google restore" feature?
Dougmeister said:
Yes! I'm talking about:
1) Backing up everything on my Galaxy S3
2) Installing other ROMs (sometimes stock, sometimes AOSP)
(side question: "stock" = "TouchWiz"???)
3) Magically re-installing *all* of my apps in the new ROM by clicking a single button
To do that, I'll need to use the "Google restore" feature?
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Titanium backup is what I use. Paid version and you dont have to click ok for each app
Sent from my blue galaxy
miller710 said:
Titanium backup is what I use. Paid version and you dont have to click ok for each app
Sent from my blue galaxy
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You don't have to hit ok for each app when you use google restore the correct way. It automatically reloads your apps on your device. TB is a great also but never restore data it is the root of most issues caused when people use it.
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[Q] Questions about rooting (Cyanogenmod 10.1 M3)

Hi,
I am looking into rooting my GN yakju (4.2.2), but I've still got a few questions:
1. Do I need to unlock the bootloader (or why should I unlock it)?
2. What is a good method to root? I saw a manual way and one with a toolkit.
3. Is it possible to keep my data (on unrooted device) to carry over to the rooted rom (cyanogenmod)?
4. With Cyanogenmod 10.1 M3 is the battery life better or worse than stock?
I hope anyone can help me with these questions,
thanks in advance!
Marc. said:
Hi,
I am looking into rooting my GN yakju (4.2.2), but I've still got a few questions:
1. Do I need to unlock the bootloader (or why should I unlock it)?
2. What is a good method to root? I saw a manual way and one with a toolkit.
3. Is it possible to keep my data (on unrooted device) to carry over to the rooted rom (cyanogenmod)?
4. With Cyanogenmod 10.1 M3 is the battery life better or worse than stock?
I hope anyone can help me with these questions,
thanks in advance!
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1. yes . i always you to root and install a custom recovery
2. i use wugfresh for now i trust it
3. only if you back it all up before you unlock the bootloader(erases everything)
4. battery life drains either way it depends on what you do and the rom and kernel cm10.1 is pretty good to me
that help you??
Alpha_wolf said:
1. yes . i always you to root and install a custom recovery
2. i use wugfresh for now i trust it
3. only if you back it all up before you unlock the bootloader(erases everything)
4. battery life drains either way it depends on what you do and the rom and kernel cm10.1 is pretty good to me
that help you??
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Thanks,
but with point 2, whats wugfresh?
And how to backup my data before unlocking the bootloader? So far I know that isn't possible.
Marc. said:
Thanks,
but with point 2, whats wugfresh?
And how to backup my data before unlocking the bootloader? So far I know that isn't possible.
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http://www.wugfresh.com/nrt/
my fav tool kit
and backing up contacts are backed to gmail
app data will be lost so passwords and your high score and angry birds will go bye bye
but the stuff on your sdcard
make a folder on your pc under lin gnex back up (thats mine) and drag all the folders over its a long time but it works
ok i looked and wugfresh give a back up option ill test to see if it works on a locked bootloader
be glad im restoring stock tonight for testing reasons lol
ok yes it backs up data witout root
Alpha_wolf said:
http://www.wugfresh.com/nrt/
my fav tool kit
and backing up contacts are backed to gmail
app data will be lost so passwords and your high score and angry birds will go bye bye
but the stuff on your sdcard
make a folder on your pc under lin gnex back up (thats mine) and drag all the folders over its a long time but it works
ok i looked and wugfresh give a back up option ill test to see if it works on a locked bootloader
be glad im restoring stock tonight for testing reasons lol
ok yes it backs up data witout root
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So if I want to root with wugfresh I have to do this:
1. Start the application
2. Backup my stuff
3. Click the unlock button
4. Click the root button
5. Flash the Cyanogenmod 10.1 M3 ROM?
Do I have then also a good custom recovery? I didn't set it up in the folder.
Marc. said:
So if I want to root with wugfresh I have to do this:
1. Start the application
2. Backup my stuff
3. Click the unlock button
4. Click the root button
5. Flash the Cyanogenmod 10.1 M3 ROM?
Do I have then also a good custom recovery? I didn't set it up in the folder.
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the toolkit will have a box under "root" that says custom recovery
it will install twrp by default
Alpha_wolf said:
the toolkit will have a box under "root" that says custom recovery
it will install twrp by default
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Okay, but my steps to root were good?
Marc. said:
Okay, but my steps to root were good?
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yep you seem to be all good
Alpha_wolf said:
yep you seem to be all good
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Thanks, I'll do it later today.
Also, when I want to unroot would it also be possible to restore my data (then without root)?
Marc. said:
Thanks, I'll do it later today.
Also, when I want to unroot would it also be possible to restore my data (then without root)?
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yep hit the restore back up file lol
Use Carbon Backup (renamed to Helium)
Hi,
To backup your data, prior to bootloader unlock (which wipes all your data), you should use Carbon (now renamed to Helium, it seems). You can find it on the Play Store.
For unlock/root/backup/flashing new ROMs you can also use the toolkit available here. It is the one I used and didn't really face any issues.
Also, don't forget to back-up your entire /sdcard (/data/media if on 4.1 or /data/media/0 on 4.2) to your PC.
With regards to battery ROM, there are possibly hundreds of forum posts with this regards and honestly your mileage will vary significantly based on individual usage, network coverage in your region, use of gps/data, ROM, kernel, etc.
Once you are comfortable, rooting and flashing a ROM on your device, I would suggest to check the forums for alternate ROMs and Kernels. Lot of it is trial-and-error. What works for some may not work for you and vice versa.
Besides, there are some ROMs which provide huge list of features which may or may not come at the cost of battery, but are definitely worth trying.
Search this forum for threads about which ROM is the best for ... ? and you might find some useful suggestions.
All the best.

[Q] Newb M8 questions

Hi all,
Long time reader, first time poster.
Please don't kill me if my questions are somehow dumb. I promise I searched the web and xda thouroughly before posting.
1) I rooted my phone with HTCDev.com for the sole purpose of installing titanium backup. I tried to unintall some unwanted bloatware (scribble, tv, twitter, zoe, fitbit and more...) but they keep returning after boot. Why is that? Is it related to S-on? Is there a simple way to fix this?
2) My current software version is 1.54.707.7, I can update OTA to 2.22.707.3. Should I? From my experience with my previous samsung device, I'm afraid that updating blindly can cause more harm than good at some cases.
3) Can I update OTA even when I'm rooted? Will I need to replace the recovery and root again?
Thanks in advance,
Tal
talla1 said:
Hi all,
Long time reader, first time poster.
Please don't kill me if my questions are somehow dumb. I promise I searched the web and xda thouroughly before posting.
1) I rooted my phone with HTCDev.com for the sole purpose of installing titanium backup. I tried to unintall some unwanted bloatware (scribble, tv, twitter, zoe, fitbit and more...) but they keep returning after boot. Why is that? Is it related to S-on? Is there a simple way to fix this?
2) My current software version is 1.54.707.7, I can update OTA to 2.22.707.3. Should I? From my experience with my previous samsung device, I'm afraid that updating blindly can cause more harm than good at some cases.
3) Can I update OTA even when I'm rooted? Will I need to replace the recovery and root again?
Thanks in advance,
Tal
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Hi Tal,
ok let's see if I can help you a little bit.
Regarding (1) I got a question: where and which files of the named apps did you delete?
Regarding (2) Sure you could update vis OTA as long as all system apps and stock recovery ist installed. Did you reinstall stock recovery, or are you unsing some custom recovery? As with custom recovery you can download but not install the OTA. This can then be done even if you are rooted. If you use supersu having the pro version installed you could try activating OTA survival mode and maybe root acces will still be there after performing the OTA. If not you could simply reinstall a custom recovery and using this root.
Hope this helps!?
If you could give me some answers regarding (1) I'll try to help ypu with this as well.
HTCNerdYoda said:
Hi Tal,
ok let's see if I can help you a little bit.
Regarding (1) I got a question: where and which files of the named apps did you delete?
Regarding (2) Sure you could update vis OTA as long as all system apps and stock recovery ist installed. Did you reinstall stock recovery, or are you unsing some custom recovery? As with custom recovery you can download but not install the OTA. This can then be done even if you are rooted. If you use supersu having the pro version installed you could try activating OTA survival mode and maybe root acces will still be there after performing the OTA. If not you could simply reinstall a custom recovery and using this root.
Hope this helps!?
If you could give me some answers regarding (1) I'll try to help ypu with this as well.
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Thanks for the detailed and fast response, Yoda!
Regarding (1), I'm not sure I understand what you mean "where and which files". I backed up the mentioned apps in titanium backup, and then uninstalled them, again, with titanium backup. This method worked for me on my previous device (Samsung i9300).
Regarding (2), that's valuable information that I did not get anywhere from reading the sticky posts. I didn't know that the original recovery is needed in order to update OTA. I installed TWRP in order to install SuperSU. Is there a specific version of stock recovery that goes with the device? Or is there just one stock recovery for m8?
I had another question hidden in there, I'll make it number 3:
(3) Can someone tell me if the 2.22.707.3 version is any good? Stable enough? Or should I stick with 1.54.707.7 in the meanwhile?
Thanks allot!
Tal
talla1 said:
Thanks for the detailed and fast response, Yoda!
Regarding (1), I'm not sure I understand what you mean "where and which files". I backed up the mentioned apps in titanium backup, and then uninstalled them, again, with titanium backup. This method worked for me on my previous device (Samsung i9300).
Regarding (2), that's valuable information that I did not get anywhere from reading the sticky posts. I didn't know that the original recovery is needed in order to update OTA. I installed TWRP in order to install SuperSU. Is there a specific version of stock recovery that goes with the device? Or is there just one stock recovery for m8?
I had another question hidden in there, I'll make it number 3:
(3) Can someone tell me if the 2.22.707.3 version is any good? Stable enough? Or should I stick with 1.54.707.7 in the meanwhile?
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(1) there are two folder /system/app and /system/priv-app. And overall there is the rw settings of the new kernel used. To be abled to unistall unwanted system apps maybe take a look at this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2723463, as maybe you need another kernel to accomplish it.
(2) you have to use a corresponding recovery, meaning you would have to download the 1.54.707.7 recovery (just google for it and you should find it in any forum) to work.
(3) I'm sorry that I can't be of any help here, as I performed an S-OFF debranding my phone and changin the CID to HTC__102 right from the start, setting it up to be on the WWE 2.22.401.4 since then.
3) the newest update (2.22 one) is very stable for me, no problems at all.
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Thanks for this information!
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HTCNerdYoda said:
Thanks for this information!
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1) HTCDev unlocks the boot loader, it doesn't root. This can delete some default system apps, preventing an OTA. In order to have changes to system stick after reboot you need a kernel module: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=51543139
2) Don't worry, HTC are much better with updates than Samsung. They work, you can trust them.
3) Once you have unlocked boot loader, you may struggle to update OTA due to the missing apps, but there are threads here explaining what to do. As mentioned, you'll need stock recovery and yes, you may need to root again, after installing your custom recovery after the update.
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1) HTCDev unlocks the boot loader, it doesn't root. This can delete some default system apps, preventing an OTA. In order to have changes to system stick after reboot you need a kernel module: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=51543139
2) Don't worry, HTC are much better with updates than Samsung. They work, you can trust them.
3) Once you have unlocked boot loader, you may struggle to update OTA due to the missing apps, but there are threads here explaining what to do. As mentioned, you'll need stock recovery and yes, you may need to root again, after installing your custom recovery after the update.
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Thanks for all the valuable info!!
I tried searching for the recovery, but as always, it's not that simple.. Too many sources of information and I don't know who's genuine. I haven't found a link on XDA yet (to the full stock ROM yes, not for the recovery only).
You say that OTA is a hassle when the recovery is replaced. I'm not stressed on upgrading OTA. How WOULD YOU SUGGEST to upgrade? Downloading the newest stock from XDA and using fastboot?
I created nandroid backups before but never restored one, so JUST TO BE SURE: this backup will be the full snapshot? Meaning: my old version (if the new one sucks) + apps + data? I don't need to backup ANYTHING except doing a nandroid backup?
Thanks again.
Tal
UPDATE: dug around some more and found the stock recoveries here after following the link from this post.
But before I flash anything, I just want to make sure that:
1) The nandroid I'll do in TWRP is the only backup I need to do.
2) There is no simpler option than returning to stock recovery, updating OTA, returning to TWRP recovery, rooting.
Tal

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