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How can you save your current ROM?

hello is there away to do the title of this thread?
I have a unbranded ROM but it's loaded with my operators Data settings, and I'll be loathed to type them in if I decide to return to the stock ROM, so is there a way to save your current ROM incase it goes wrong, or your flash and decide to go back?
TIA Luke.

Nandroid backup - which you will certainly be doing before flashing anything new. Won't you?
Thinks - you are rooted aren't you?

diablous said:
hello is there away to do the title of this thread?
I have a unbranded ROM but it's loaded with my operators Data settings, and I'll be loathed to type them in if I decide to return to the stock ROM, so is there a way to save your current ROM incase it goes wrong, or your flash and decide to go back?
TIA Luke.
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Search for r6-desire-root.zip, follow first link in google.
If it fails try it on another os (or pc), it will always succeed

ROM Manager backup. Copy it to your PC for safe keeping.

JohnSteveDoe said:
ROM Manager backup. Copy it to your PC for safe keeping.
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..with rom manager it really works great; also the restore procedure works - I tried it.

thanks guys,
new to this ROM flashing on the Android OS, so it's all new however the community is being great as always

Does anyone know if you can back up your ROM without root, before gaining root access?

Desire_this! said:
Does anyone know if you can back up your ROM without root, before gaining root access?
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Simple answer is no, it can't be done. You need root to backup your rom.

Actually, you don't need root to do a nandroid backup. Just a custom recovery.

LBTaylor1984 said:
thanks guys,
new to this ROM flashing on the Android OS, so it's all new however the community is being great as always
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I am new to this, coming from iphone. I just love all the features and customizations availalbe.
Rooting on my galaxys4 was easy. thanks all
Thanks for this info too. just what i was looking for.
:good:

If you have rooted and installed any decent backup software they can backup the entire rom and all settings.
Then even if you mess up your phone and boot loop it, as long as you can get into recovery you can restore everything.
So it serves multiple purposes, I prefer this method to rom manager and titanium backup.

Simple unlock/root/ota question

Apologies for the very simple question, but I've yet to find a definitive yes/no answer on this.
I'm interested in:
- unlocking the bootloader
- rooting my nexus
With a view to install root-enabled apps like Titanium etc.
I DO NOT want to install any custom ROM (at least for the time being!) as I am happy with stock ICS 4.0.4
If I do the above (unlock & root) - will I still be notified about and be able to install OTA updates from Google?
(I'm on yakju)
Cheers

brypie said:
Apologies for the very simple question, but I've yet to find a definitive yes/no answer on this.
I'm interested in:
- unlocking the bootloader
- rooting my nexus
With a view to install root-enabled apps like Titanium etc.
I DO NOT want to install any custom ROM (at least for the time being!) as I am happy with stock ICS 4.0.4
If I do the above (unlock & root) - will I still be notified about and be able to install OTA updates from Google?
(I'm on yakju)
Cheers
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you will be notified and assuming you still have the stock recovery and not CWM and do not modify any system files, you can install it.

is method given by Jubakuba the only way to root Galaxy Nexus??
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1529058

<lie>
Yes.
</lie>
Really though...it's the best way.
If you want to use other methods *cough* toolkits *cough* they'll probably work.
But if you end up soft bricking your phone at some point (Trust me. You will.) You'll want the tools in place (and know that they're working and how to use them) to get you unstuck.

gagan007 said:
is method given by Jubakuba the only way to root Galaxy Nexus??
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1529058
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Not the only but the safest and the proper way and the learning way
Galaxy Nexus AOKP m5 Franco kernel m3

Zepius said:
you will be notified and assuming you still have the stock recovery and not CWM and do not modify any system files, you can install it.
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Thanks.
So, I assume form your answer that unlocking and rooting does not modify the system files enough to break ota?

brypie said:
Thanks.
So, I assume form your answer that unlocking and rooting does not modify the system files enough to break ota?
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unlock: no
root: no
the problem is, most root methods flash clockwork recovery. this does break OTA.

Jubakuba said:
<lie>
Yes.
</lie>
Really though...it's the best way.
If you want to use other methods *cough* toolkits *cough* they'll probably work.
But if you end up soft bricking your phone at some point (Trust me. You will.) You'll want the tools in place (and know that they're working and how to use them) to get you unstuck.
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Hi.
I'll read through your guide - looks good.
However, you seem to imply that to get root, I have to install a custom recovery??
Is there a separate step to simply install root using the default recovery?

Easiest method...
https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images#yakju
You can (and should) download the factory images.
From there...unzip the .tar and the .zip inside of it.
The .zip contains a recovery.img
Flash that using my guide...post 3, I believe...detailing alternative (in this case, stock) recoveries after rooting.

brypie said:
Thanks.
So, I assume form your answer that unlocking and rooting does not modify the system files enough to break ota?
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To expand on what Zepius said:
1) unlocking does not modify any system files at all.
2) "rooting" just means place two files on your system partition. Nothing more. As long as you don't modify or delete files already there, you can add whatever files you want.
brypie said:
Hi.
I'll read through your guide - looks good.
However, you seem to imply that to get root, I have to install a custom recovery??
Is there a separate step to simply install root using the default recovery?
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You do not need to install a custom recovery to root. Booting a custom recovery allows you to do the same thing. In Jubakuba's guide, replace
fastboot flash recovery <name-of-recovery.img>
with
fastboot boot <name-of-recovery.img>
and it will temporarily boot the custom recovery from your PC.

[Q]ODIN and root

does the galaxy W need to be rooted to flash with ODIN or it does not need to be.
for example i can just flash CWM and then install CM9 without root and I'll be ok.

zaid98 said:
does the galaxy W need to be rooted to flash with ODIN or it does not need to be.
for example i can just flash CWM and then install CM9 without root and I'll be ok.
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ODIN is to be use on standard updates on stock ROM. Normally you can get it through www.sammobile.com/firmware/
Root ROM like CM9 by Arco and others variation such as Paranoid Android by Doomsday94 must be on rooted phone. This link (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1317394) will helps you how to root. I suggest you read through these steps.

you didn't understand what i meant what i meant does the stock ROM need to be rooted to flash CWM via odin or not

zaid98 said:
you didn't understand what i meant what i meant does the stock ROM need to be rooted to flash CWM via odin or not
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You seems to be new here. He's answer was right but since you cannot relate to what he said, the simple answer for your question is
"No."
If you have more question, follow them up.

My question was not how to root but in short does odin need root to be used or not

My question was not how to root but in short does odin need root to be used or not
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Anything on a computer has full access to android devices. So odin and other apps like that for computers will be able to do anything to your device if it reqiures download mode. Download mode is basicly rhe first piece of already rooted (you could say) equiptment on a phone that anyone could access.
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zaid98 said:
My question was not how to root but in short does odin need root to be used or not
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Odin does not need root. It's a standard software from Samsung to updates/upgrade/downgrade stock ROM or even flash baseband (upgrade/downgrade). But in order to use ODIN, your phone must be on download mode.
I hope this is simple enough for you to try. Again, please read my first post comments.

if me no root but live use flash cwm via odin, whats live root?

melledug said:
if me no root but live use flash cwm via odin, whats live root?
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I've been trying to figure out what you really mean but I really don't understand.
In one way or another, you will be needing both root and CWM if you're to use your phone to the fullest. I strongly suggest to do the two things.

i suppose your question was "do you need root before flashing CWM with ODIN?"
i think you can flash it (CWM recovery) without rooting, but on the other hand, CWM might need root access before it can work on your phone.

necrohades said:
i suppose your question was "do you need root before flashing CWM with ODIN?"
i think you can flash it (CWM recovery) without rooting, but on the other hand, CWM might need root access before it can work on your phone.
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Anything that isnt download mode always requires root if it involves modifying the /system
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melledug said:
if me no root but live use flash cwm via odin, whats live root?
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I think what this guy meant was: If I'm not rooted, but can flash CWM using ODIN, what's the purpose of rooting?
Assuming I translated his question correctly, here's my answer :
Flashing a recovery (RZR, CWM) or a ROM (BC2, Kez, BN, ArcoICS) is like installing Windows 7 on a PC: You don't need to know the password of the Administrator account of the previous OS; just boot the Setup DVD, and it has full unfettered access to the whole PC.
Rooting a phone is unlocking its capability. It's like resetting the administrator password of a PC, so that you can install things on it.
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Yes. Totally agreed
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Guys,
I installed the CWM before rooting, is it a problem? How can I root my phone with CWM already installed? I am having some problems with Cyanonmod 10, for exemple, I can't take pictures because it says that there's no external SD Card installed what isn't true.

NigthWolf23 said:
Guys,
I installed the CWM before rooting, is it a problem? How can I root my phone with CWM already installed? I am having some problems with Cyanonmod 10, for exemple, I can't take pictures because it says that there's no external SD Card installed what isn't true.
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Short answer: no. its not a problem. You can root your phone with cwm installed. It wont affect anything. And if you want root then just search it up.
Secondly, about CM10.1, its still in alpha.(bugs like that are always probable) Dont report it here. Report it in the CM10 thread. Its bound to get noticed more there and fixed quicker there.
That's right, I'm the premium potaytoman and i seek the TROOOOOF! Problem?

gmaster1 said:
Short answer: no. its not a problem. You can root your phone with cwm installed. It wont affect anything. And if you want root then just search it up.
Secondly, about CM10.1, its still in alpha.(bugs like that are always probable) Dont report it here. Report it in the CM10 thread. Its bound to get noticed more there and fixed quicker there.
That's right, I'm the premium potaytoman and i seek the TROOOOOF! Problem?
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Not a problem, but u can't root your device with cwm6, only with cwm5 or stock recovery
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[Q] i747 Root or not

Hi guys,
My beloved S3 is is > 1 year old now.
I was always afraid\skeptical of rooting it as it lead to void warranty
Since it is already > 1 year old and warranty does not come into picture now, I thought why not give it a try now..
I see many S3 users are more than efficient after root.
Should I go for it ?

praddz said:
Hi guys,
My beloved S3 is is > 1 year old now.
I was always afraid\skeptical of rooting it as it lead to void warranty
Since it is already > 1 year old and warranty does not come into picture now, I thought why not give it a try now..
I see many S3 users are more than efficient after root.
Should I go for it ?
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Yes, unleash your device!! It's easy, and opens up a whole new way to interact with your phone
Sent from my SGH-I747M using xda premium

Yes, root to experience the full capabilities of your phone.
Please be sure to read all guides and FAQs and be familiar with GS3 terminology.
Read tons....i mean TONS!!
Search and reading will be your besfriends.
Root, experiment, enjoy greatness

Root and unleash the chains that bind you.
Take it from a noob, read, read and re-read.
Easier to read about potential problems before they arise than after.:good:

i can has root?

Rooting is a must. I went for root the day i got the phone and went reading up on rooting the S3, roms, etc. before i even got the phone.

first thing i did when i got my s3 in april was root it. and my dad has the same phone i have, and i have to say having mine rooted vs his stock, mine gets so much better battery life. and is just one of the perks of rooting other than overclock and underclock and custom roms and stuff.

...and Sammy phones are fairly fool proof when it comes to rooting and flashing

Yes, it seems like we have many 1 click tools to do this.
I just want to go slow, I want to unlock the boot loader first & then uninstall all the att crap..
that should free up some space n RAM..
Later on I can install custom ROM's and Kernels if need be..
This can be done right...

First thing you should do is make a backup of your stock unmodified system before you remove or erase anything or install roms. And also make a copy of the backup to a second location like a computer.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747

praddz said:
Yes, it seems like we have many 1 click tools to do this.
I just want to go slow, I want to unlock the boot loader first & then uninstall all the att crap..
that should free up some space n RAM..
Later on I can install custom ROM's and Kernels if need be..
This can be done right...
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S3 doesn't have a locked bootloader. Reality just have to flash a rooted stock firmware in Odin and you are good to go.
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stelv said:
First thing you should do is make a backup of your stock unmodified system before you remove or erase anything or install roms. And also make a copy of the backup to a second location like a computer.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747
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yes,,
1) unlock boot loader
2) take backup of everything using titanium
3) then uninstall all the useless apps which came along with att
4) if required i will flash custom rom and kernel else i will stick with everything stock..
The reason I want to stop at unlocked boot loader is that as of now I already have 4.1.1, and I have read everywhere that 4.1.2 isn't much of a revolution so why flash a custom ROM. People might not agree with this but I tend to think so...
Obviously any suggestions are appreciated....:fingers-crossed:

praddz said:
yes,,
1) unlock boot loader
Obviously any suggestions are appreciated....:fingers-crossed:
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No
Don't even think about touching anything dealing with bootloaders.
The i747 comes with an unlocked boot loader, the only one that is locked is the Verizon S3.
There have been various bricked S3 by trying to "unlock" something that isnt locked.
Read read read and search and research.
Before you wind up with a paperweight
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using Tapatalk 2

praddz said:
yes,,
1) unlock boot loader
2) take backup of everything using titanium
3) then uninstall all the useless apps which came along with att
4) if required i will flash custom rom and kernel else i will stick with everything stock..
The reason I want to stop at unlocked boot loader is that as of now I already have 4.1.1, and I have read everywhere that 4.1.2 isn't much of a revolution so why flash a custom ROM. People might not agree with this but I tend to think so...
Obviously any suggestions are appreciated....:fingers-crossed:
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No I am not talking about just backing everything up with titanium backup. I am talking about backing up your stock untouched system with a custom recovery like twrp or clockwork recovery. After root you will most likely have a custom recovery installed like twrp. You can boot into this custom recovery and backup the entire system in its current state, because sometimes when certain system apps are removed you will get force closes and bootloops and the only way to restore your phone is by restoring a backup, flashing a rom or pushing a system to your phone via odin.
Removing stock apps that came with your phone can be risky at times because they are often tied to other systems. Search to see what apps are safe to remove and a system backup is probably good.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1746665

Do not attempt to unlock the bootloader! It is unlocked already. Your proper plan of action should be:
Backup everything possible (MyBackup is what I used)
Root phone (several methods available, choose one)
Install custom recovery. Rom Manager can install CWM for you, while goo manager can install TWRP (I prefer twrp)
Follow instructions for installation off any Rom you download (found in the first post of that Roms thread, usually before you get to the dl link)
Before flashing or attempting any mod, make a back up of everything. And read the directions

Mine is still under warranty and its rooted. Open its can of whoop a**
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The cool thing for you will be all the awesome tweaks and mods that have out in the last few months because you device is a little elderly. Check out the definitive mod thread in the T-Mobile S3 forum. I forget which thread its in. You can atleast double battery and speed and 20x the customization options. Once you flash a new rom it becomes a habit called flashaholism so be aware. My name is Bubba Fett and I'm a flasaholic.

Finally I did it,, My Galaxy S3 is rooted successfully..
Thanks to you guys & online sources..
-Root is done
-Backup using CWM is taken, a copy is there on Internal Memory, External Memory Card and My Computer
Next step-
-Remove bloatware and free some storage..
-Any idea which is the best stable ROM as of now for 4.2.2

praddz said:
-Any idea which is the best stable ROM as of now for 4.2.2
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There is no best ROM it all depends on the user. Feel free to try any of them. Just make a Nandroid backup each time before you flash a new one and follow the devs installation instructions. Good luck and have fun!

praddz said:
-Any idea which is the best stable ROM as of now for 4.2.2
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I've tried Cyanogenmod, PAC, and AOKP in the past week. All three are butter smooth and stable. You will have to cycle the battery a couple of times for it to fit in (I noticed upon initial flash, battery life was terrible).

[Q] Re-Root after OTA - Wiping involved?

Hi there,
I have a very brief question:
My M8's bootloader is unlocked, it was rooted + S-OFF and I modified the CID. I also had a custom recovery installed but decided to stay with the stock one in order to get original HTC OTA updates. So, after a recent OTA: Root is gone.
My question: When I flash a new bootloader and apply the root (mediafire) - Will any data be wiped in the process? Just asking because I don't have an (easy) method of backuping at the moment... no Titanium without root, no nandroid without custom recovery
Thanks in advance!
hunchi

hunchi said:
Hi there,
I have a very brief question:
My M8's bootloader is unlocked, it was rooted + S-OFF and I modified the CID. I also had a custom recovery installed but decided to stay with the stock one in order to get original HTC OTA updates. So, after a recent OTA: Root is gone.
My question: When I flash a new bootloader and apply the root (mediafire) - Will any data be wiped in the process? Just asking because I don't have an (easy) method of backuping at the moment... no Titanium without root, no nandroid without custom recovery
Thanks in advance!
hunchi
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Easy
1, flash custom recovery
2, flash superuser zip
3, look HERE for the backup corresponding to your software number
4, there will be a stock recovery contained within the backup package, flash it
5, you will be as you were but rooted and with a stock recovery and you will be able to receive otas as long as the conditions HERE are met :good:
Obviously the next OTA will break root but u know what u are doing now lol

Thank you very much, exocetdj! Consider it done.
I will probably not go back to stock recovery however. I *really* was thinking with this phone I will keep the stock ROM, but I was looking into the Android Development section here yesterday night and....ahh, damn it, I can't resist anymore
Cheers
hunchi

hunchi said:
Thank you very much, exocetdj! Consider it done.
I will probably not go back to stock recovery however. I *really* was thinking with this phone I will keep the stock ROM, but I was looking into the Android Development section here yesterday night and....ahh, damn it, I can't resist anymore
Cheers
hunchi
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Oh yes, the stuff on offer in there is DEFO better than stock!!!!!!!
Go on u know u want to hahahahahahaha!!!:highfive:

exocetdj said:
Oh yes, the stuff on offer in there is DEFO better than stock!!!!!!!
Go on u know u want to hahahahahahaha!!!:highfive:
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Yeah I most certainly know. My HTC Desire and GS3 wouldn't have survived that long if it was not for XDA-dev
But you know... at some point you have so much work to do you are really just glad if the stuff works reliably. But then again... All those tweaks and nice themes... It's just soo tempting...:laugh:
Where is my USB cable??

hunchi said:
Yeah I most certainly know. My HTC Desire and GS3 wouldn't have survived that long if it was not for XDA-dev
But you know... at some point you have so much work to do you are really just glad if the stuff works reliably. But then again... All those tweaks and nice themes... It's just soo tempting...:laugh:
Where is my USB cable??
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hahaha go for it