Hi there,
I have a very brief question:
My M8's bootloader is unlocked, it was rooted + S-OFF and I modified the CID. I also had a custom recovery installed but decided to stay with the stock one in order to get original HTC OTA updates. So, after a recent OTA: Root is gone.
My question: When I flash a new bootloader and apply the root (mediafire) - Will any data be wiped in the process? Just asking because I don't have an (easy) method of backuping at the moment... no Titanium without root, no nandroid without custom recovery
Thanks in advance!
hunchi
hunchi said:
Hi there,
I have a very brief question:
My M8's bootloader is unlocked, it was rooted + S-OFF and I modified the CID. I also had a custom recovery installed but decided to stay with the stock one in order to get original HTC OTA updates. So, after a recent OTA: Root is gone.
My question: When I flash a new bootloader and apply the root (mediafire) - Will any data be wiped in the process? Just asking because I don't have an (easy) method of backuping at the moment... no Titanium without root, no nandroid without custom recovery
Thanks in advance!
hunchi
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Easy
1, flash custom recovery
2, flash superuser zip
3, look HERE for the backup corresponding to your software number
4, there will be a stock recovery contained within the backup package, flash it
5, you will be as you were but rooted and with a stock recovery and you will be able to receive otas as long as the conditions HERE are met :good:
Obviously the next OTA will break root but u know what u are doing now lol
Thank you very much, exocetdj! Consider it done.
I will probably not go back to stock recovery however. I *really* was thinking with this phone I will keep the stock ROM, but I was looking into the Android Development section here yesterday night and....ahh, damn it, I can't resist anymore
Cheers
hunchi
hunchi said:
Thank you very much, exocetdj! Consider it done.
I will probably not go back to stock recovery however. I *really* was thinking with this phone I will keep the stock ROM, but I was looking into the Android Development section here yesterday night and....ahh, damn it, I can't resist anymore
Cheers
hunchi
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Oh yes, the stuff on offer in there is DEFO better than stock!!!!!!!
Go on u know u want to hahahahahahaha!!!:highfive:
exocetdj said:
Oh yes, the stuff on offer in there is DEFO better than stock!!!!!!!
Go on u know u want to hahahahahahaha!!!:highfive:
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Yeah I most certainly know. My HTC Desire and GS3 wouldn't have survived that long if it was not for XDA-dev
But you know... at some point you have so much work to do you are really just glad if the stuff works reliably. But then again... All those tweaks and nice themes... It's just soo tempting...:laugh:
Where is my USB cable??
hunchi said:
Yeah I most certainly know. My HTC Desire and GS3 wouldn't have survived that long if it was not for XDA-dev
But you know... at some point you have so much work to do you are really just glad if the stuff works reliably. But then again... All those tweaks and nice themes... It's just soo tempting...:laugh:
Where is my USB cable??
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hahaha go for it
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Sorry if this question has been asked before, but i could not find any.
So i got the Nexus beast yesterday, and it's already blazing me off with it's greatness. But i got a few problems though:
1. I got the jakjuxw, not the jakju, will i get the same updates as the jakju OTA, but only a week later or so?
2. I did not root the phone before starting using it, but i regret that now. Is there any way i can root it and NOT lose all of my apps and data? I have spent so many hours to customize this device and i dont want to start all over (yes i know about app backup's, but they are slow)
3. If i root but stay with the stock rom, will i still be getting the original OTA updates or does i have to flash the roms manually and wipe the phone every time?
I'd appreciate it if anyone could answer all the questions =)
Baguett said:
Sorry if this question has been asked before, but i could not find any.
So i got the Nexus beast yesterday, and it's already blazing me off with it's greatness. But i got a few problems though:
1. I got the jakjuxw, not the jakju, will i get the same updates as the jakju OTA, but only a week later or so?
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Not sure about this, it probably depends on what they want to release. I don't think there's any kind of guarantee they'll get the same updates, but there's also probably no reason why they wouldn't.
2. I did not root the phone before starting using it, but i regret that now. Is there any way i can root it and NOT lose all of my apps and data? I have spent so many hours to customize this device and i dont want to start all over (yes i know about app backup's, but they are slow)
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You need to unlock the bootloader to root, and unlocking the bootloader wipes the device. Sorry. Someday an exploit might be found for ICS that allows you to root without unlocking.
3. If i root but stay with the stock rom, will i still be getting the original OTA updates or does i have to flash the roms manually and wipe the phone every time?
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If you keep stock recovery, you'll still get OTA updates when rooted. If you use custom recovery like ClockworkMod, you'll have to do them manually (but you won't need to wipe). In both cases, applying the update will probably cause you to lose root and you'll have to re-root. This is easy if you've unlocked the bootloader.
If you root by using some future exploit, you might find that the update you just installed removed root and closed the hole that allowed you to gain it without unlocking the bootloader, and now you're left stuck without root. I'd say just unlock the bootloader now and be done with it. It'll be a pain, but then you don't need to worry about it again.
phazerorg said:
If you keep stock recovery, you'll still get OTA updates when rooted. If you use custom recovery like ClockworkMod, you'll have to do them manually (but you won't need to wipe). In both cases, applying the update will probably cause you to lose root and you'll have to re-root. This is easy if you've unlocked the bootloader.
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ok thanks
Just unlocked it and rooted it, but i think im gonna install the official google 4.0.2 rom, i wil get the OTA updates then too right?
edit: how am i able to flash a rom without CWM? Also do i really not need to wipe my phone if i use CWM? i had to do it on my Desire.
Baguett said:
ok thanks
Just unlocked it and rooted it, but i think im gonna install the official google 4.0.2 rom, i wil get the OTA updates then too right?
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Yes, but the updates will probably unroot you. You should be able to just re-root after. If using CWM you can probably flash superuser right after flashing the update and not lose root at all. This is what I always did with my Nexus One when I still had the rooted stock ROM.
edit: how am i able to flash a rom without CWM?
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If the ROM comes as images (like the Google factory images) you can flash with fastboot. The Google ones come with a script that uses fastboot to do it for you.
Also do i really not need to wipe my phone if i use CWM? i had to do it on my Desire.
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I meant installing updates here... you don't usually need to wipe if you are installing updates to your current ROM, such as OTA updates to the stock ROM. You need to wipe if you're changing ROMs. It's probably no different than your Desire.
As the topic says I wonder how I do root by phone too still be able to get OTA updates. I've just seen the video at the ROOT INFO tab, but I have been given to understund that OTAs won't be possible with custom recovery. So my questin, is there another way to do this?
sopidos said:
As the topic says I wonder how I do root by phone too still be able to get OTA updates. I've just seen the video at the ROOT INFO tab, but I have been given to understund that OTAs won't be possible with custom recovery. So my questin, is there another way to do this?
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To, my personal knowledge... yeah you can root your device and still RECEIVE OTA's to your device, however when you need to install them... you'll need to flash the stock recovery so that it installs, then you can just go ahead and flash the custom recovery back that's what i'd do anyway.
Ok, I wound this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1644167 just now. Will this do the thing without screwing up the stock recovery?
Historically it's always been the advice to NOT use OTA updates when rooted as they do more harm than good. If you're going custom I'd stick with that
sopidos said:
Ok, I wound this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1644167 just now. Will this do the thing without screwing up the stock recovery?
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This is new to me, i can't comment on it but from what i've read, yeah it seems to push the files to the device without the need of a custom recovery, personally i prefer the custom recovery way because you can carry on many different tasks which stock recovery can't
That link doesn't work, it's for the AT&T model (One XL)
EddyOS said:
That link doesn't work, it's for the AT&T model (One XL)
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I thought this, but the title made me think differently.
Sent from my now amazing HTC One X thanks to TeamVenoms ViperX rom
all i want to do is install an official update from htc but i have twrp installed and there is no stock for my model 1.12.73.17
what can i do ? if i can solve this i will have to leave my phone like this for good or end up ruining it.
should i just install the official update or will that ruin my phone too ? please help
htcuser3000 said:
all i want to do is install an official update from htc but i have twrp installed and there is no stock for my model 1.12.73.17
what can i do ? if i can solve this i will have to leave my phone like this for good or end up ruining it.
should i just install the official update or will that ruin my phone too ? please help
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Is the phone rooted as well? Have you made any other modifications to the phone?
the update wont flash through twrp since its a custom recovery. (thats what I know)
anyways, assuming that you have your bootloader unlocked and a custom recovery installed, why dont you just do a backup of ur current rom and flash a new custom rom like viper or insert coin. they provide the latest updates.
EddyOS said:
Is the phone rooted as well? Have you made any other modifications to the phone?
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my phone is rooted yes
how and where do i find ota for twrp ? i cant find anything
mr.dj26 said:
the update wont flash through twrp since its a custom recovery. (thats what I know)
anyways, assuming that you have your bootloader unlocked and a custom recovery installed, why dont you just do a backup of ur current rom and flash a new custom rom like viper or insert coin. they provide the latest updates.
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so i just install ota through htc and everything will be fine ?
no it is un rooted sorry
Stop double posting http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2729439 there has been load of information given to you on your first thread you started. I also nicely told you to read & read again to make sure you know what you are doing
Sent from space
how did you install TWRP if you arent rooted?
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Stop double posting http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2729439 there has been load of information given to you on your first thread you started. I also nicely told you to read & read again to make sure you know what you are doing
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i pm you and you never replied.
i am getting all kinds of different advice and its not helping.
iv made it simple. i just want to install the official update so can i just do it and my phone will be fine ? my phone is rooted and has twrp. is there a way to just update through twrp ? if so i can not see it
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how did you install TWRP if you arent rooted?
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my phone is rooted ; my bad
htcuser3000 said:
i pm you and you never replied.
i am getting all kinds of different advice and its not helping.
iv made it simple. i just want to install the official update so can i just do it and my phone will be fine ? my phone is rooted and has twrp. is there a way to just update through twrp ? if so i can not see it
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You're getting different advice cause you're double-posting and not sticking to one person's advice
Me and most people do have life's families & jobs we just don't sit here to help people out as I have mentioned before I give you loads of information to help you and as so as other me members. We all wasn't born to know how to root and unlock bootloaders or get s-off some people know more and they write great information on how to do it now go and use Google and the search function what is implemented into xda to stop multiple posts.
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You're getting different advice cause you're double-posting and not sticking to one person's advice
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ok so tell me this
i need the ota but i have twrp and i cant find stock so i must stay with twrp
in that case where do i find the updates for twrp ?
Hi,
Please use the original thread here --> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2729439
I have rooted my m8 but just in the case I want to return to stock focusing more on getting ota updates whats the easiest most fastest way to do this and would I have to uninstall custom recovery, root, and everything else back to original stock just to get ota updates sorry for the rookie question here?
Tak23 said:
I have rooted my m8 but just in the case I want to return to stock focusing more on getting ota updates whats the easiest most fastest way to do this and would I have to uninstall custom recovery, root, and everything else back to original stock just to get ota updates sorry for the rookie question here?
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A quick look in general would have found this on the front page
@EddyOS put it together so don't forget to say thanks
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2735235
My recommendation would be "don't bother". Whatever rolls out on OTA tends to be posted as a flashable stock rooted ROM, or custom ROM within days of the OTA, if not sooner. Going back to stock is a steps backwards, and usually an unnecessary one.
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My recommendation would be "don't bother". Whatever rolls out on OTA tends to be posted as a flashable stock rooted ROM, or custom ROM within days of the OTA, if not sooner. Going back to stock is a steps backwards, and usually an unnecessary one.
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sounds good to me then would u recommend twrp or clockwork recovery for the m8?
grentuu said:
A quick look in general would have found this on the front page
@EddyOS put it together so don't forget to say thanks
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2735235
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appreciate the link to the post helps a lot!:good:
Tak23 said:
sounds good to me then would u recommend twrp or clockwork recovery for the m8?
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All down to personal preference. I use TWRP
Tak23 said:
sounds good to me then would u recommend twrp or clockwork recovery for the m8?
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Either is fine. Most will use what they are most familiar with. I use TWRP, only because it was what I was used to on my old One X (EVITA).
Hi All,
I am currently rooted via Magisk with TWRP installed. I am unable to install the Feb OTA update because of this mostly. I am planning to get stock recovery while keeping the root - question is if I do this via the AIO tool <https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-2-xl/development/tool-tool-one-driversunlocktwrpfactory-t3730226> - will i lose all my data?
Thanks,
J2
arpanj2 said:
Hi All,
I am currently rooted via Magisk with TWRP installed. I am unable to install the Feb OTA update because of this mostly. I am planning to get stock recovery while keeping the root - question is if I do this via the AIO tool <https://forum.xda-developers.com/pi...l-tool-one-driversunlocktwrpfactory-t3730226> - will i lose all my data?
Thanks,
J2
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If you want to take the ota, you need to be unrooted, and on stock recovery. You won't lose your data if your careful with the toolkit.
Badger50 said:
If you want to take the ota, you need to be unrooted, and on stock recovery. You won't lose your data if your careful with the toolkit.
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Thanks Badger! For some reason I thought systemless root works with OTA.
arpanj2 said:
Thanks Badger! For some reason I thought systemless root works with OTA.
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It used to, but not so much on this phone. Friendly advice for ya, learn how to flash factory images, and ditch the OTA's. Much quicker, and less room for error that side loading or waiting on OTA's. Just my opinion my friend ?
Badger50 said:
It used to, but not so much on this phone. Friendly advice for ya, learn how to flash factory images, and ditch the OTA's. Much quicker, and less room for error that side loading or waiting on OTA's. Just my opinion my friend
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Hi badger,
If you are referring to steps laid out here - https://developers.google.com/android/images, then I can do it. Won't it still require me to be unrooted?
I am not that Tech agnostic - so if I am wrong, can you refer me to a thread where this is outlined. My only thing is that I get latest patches and still get to keep root without losing data
Thanks,
J2
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Hi badger,
If you are referring to steps laid out here - https://developers.google.com/android/images, then I can do it. Won't it still require me to be unrooted?
I am not that Tech agnostic - so if I am wrong, can you refer me to a thread where this is outlined. My only thing is that I get latest patches and still get to keep root without losing data
Thanks,
J2
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Yep, that's the one. No, you don't have to be unrooted for it to work. You won't even lose any data once you learn the -w trick(you'll see) Here's a guide written by Flash, the kernel Dev Jedi Master. Look over that thread, and you'll figure it out pretty quick I bet ?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-2-xl/how-to/guide-unlock-flash-root-pixel-2-xl-t3702418
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Yep, that's the one. No, you don't have to be unrooted for it to work. You won't even lose any data once you learn the -w trick(you'll see) Here's a guide written by Flash, the kernel Dev Jedi Master. Look over that thread, and you'll figure it out pretty quick I bet
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-2-xl/how-to/guide-unlock-flash-root-pixel-2-xl-t3702418
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Sounds perfect - I will get this done tonight
Thanks so much Badger! :angel:
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Sounds perfect - I will get this done tonight
Thanks so much Badger! :angel:
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Welcome bro! Give em hell :good:
I can second this method. I flash factory images with root/unlocked bootloader. It is easy to do.