Sorry if this question has been asked before, but i could not find any.
So i got the Nexus beast yesterday, and it's already blazing me off with it's greatness. But i got a few problems though:
1. I got the jakjuxw, not the jakju, will i get the same updates as the jakju OTA, but only a week later or so?
2. I did not root the phone before starting using it, but i regret that now. Is there any way i can root it and NOT lose all of my apps and data? I have spent so many hours to customize this device and i dont want to start all over (yes i know about app backup's, but they are slow)
3. If i root but stay with the stock rom, will i still be getting the original OTA updates or does i have to flash the roms manually and wipe the phone every time?
I'd appreciate it if anyone could answer all the questions =)
Baguett said:
Sorry if this question has been asked before, but i could not find any.
So i got the Nexus beast yesterday, and it's already blazing me off with it's greatness. But i got a few problems though:
1. I got the jakjuxw, not the jakju, will i get the same updates as the jakju OTA, but only a week later or so?
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Not sure about this, it probably depends on what they want to release. I don't think there's any kind of guarantee they'll get the same updates, but there's also probably no reason why they wouldn't.
2. I did not root the phone before starting using it, but i regret that now. Is there any way i can root it and NOT lose all of my apps and data? I have spent so many hours to customize this device and i dont want to start all over (yes i know about app backup's, but they are slow)
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You need to unlock the bootloader to root, and unlocking the bootloader wipes the device. Sorry. Someday an exploit might be found for ICS that allows you to root without unlocking.
3. If i root but stay with the stock rom, will i still be getting the original OTA updates or does i have to flash the roms manually and wipe the phone every time?
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If you keep stock recovery, you'll still get OTA updates when rooted. If you use custom recovery like ClockworkMod, you'll have to do them manually (but you won't need to wipe). In both cases, applying the update will probably cause you to lose root and you'll have to re-root. This is easy if you've unlocked the bootloader.
If you root by using some future exploit, you might find that the update you just installed removed root and closed the hole that allowed you to gain it without unlocking the bootloader, and now you're left stuck without root. I'd say just unlock the bootloader now and be done with it. It'll be a pain, but then you don't need to worry about it again.
phazerorg said:
If you keep stock recovery, you'll still get OTA updates when rooted. If you use custom recovery like ClockworkMod, you'll have to do them manually (but you won't need to wipe). In both cases, applying the update will probably cause you to lose root and you'll have to re-root. This is easy if you've unlocked the bootloader.
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ok thanks
Just unlocked it and rooted it, but i think im gonna install the official google 4.0.2 rom, i wil get the OTA updates then too right?
edit: how am i able to flash a rom without CWM? Also do i really not need to wipe my phone if i use CWM? i had to do it on my Desire.
Baguett said:
ok thanks
Just unlocked it and rooted it, but i think im gonna install the official google 4.0.2 rom, i wil get the OTA updates then too right?
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Yes, but the updates will probably unroot you. You should be able to just re-root after. If using CWM you can probably flash superuser right after flashing the update and not lose root at all. This is what I always did with my Nexus One when I still had the rooted stock ROM.
edit: how am i able to flash a rom without CWM?
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If the ROM comes as images (like the Google factory images) you can flash with fastboot. The Google ones come with a script that uses fastboot to do it for you.
Also do i really not need to wipe my phone if i use CWM? i had to do it on my Desire.
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I meant installing updates here... you don't usually need to wipe if you are installing updates to your current ROM, such as OTA updates to the stock ROM. You need to wipe if you're changing ROMs. It's probably no different than your Desire.
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Hi,
What are experiences of current owners of Nexus phones ? My Desire Z is rooted ( only rooted, don't have a custom ROM), and I never got Gingerbread update so I'd hate the same thing happening to G Nexus.
Thanks.
zljk said:
Hi,
What are experiences of current owners of Nexus phones ? My Desire Z is rooted ( only rooted, don't have a custom ROM), and I never got Gingerbread update so I'd hate the same thing happening to G Nexus.
Thanks.
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That will never happen with the GN. When you own this phone you're first in line for the updates until the next is coming out then you're second but still faster than the others.
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When you're rooted you can't get the OTA updates. You have to unroot to apply them. That's true for all Android phones.
You cant get them at all?
Not even: get update and apply it, loose root because of the update, reroot?
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TulpiX said:
You cant get them at all?
Not even: get update and apply it, loose root because of the update, reroot?
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you could do that, but chances are someone will get the OTA before you and pre root it for everyones pleasure and you can just flash that via recovery
TulpiX said:
You cant get them at all?
Not even: get update and apply it, loose root because of the update, reroot?
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If my experiences with my OG Droid match up with the Nexus line, if you've only rooted and haven't actually installed another ROM, you should be able to apply the OTA update and lose root because of it. Then just root again.
martonikaj said:
When you're rooted you can't get the OTA updates. You have to unroot to apply them. That's true for all Android phones.
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I've seen some threads claiming that root itself doesn't affect updates, but changing of data on system partition.... Was kind of hoping there is a way to have my cake and eat it too - don't mind having to root the phone all over again after the OTA....
Anyhow - as an alternative, is there a way to get official Nexus updates ( stock ) using other channels except OTA ? What was happening with old Nexus phones ?
zljk said:
I've seen some threads claiming that root itself doesn't affect updates, but changing of data on system partition.... Was kind of hoping there is a way to have my cake and eat it too - don't mind having to root the phone all over again after the OTA....
Anyhow - as an alternative, is there a way to get official Nexus updates ( stock ) using other channels except OTA ? What was happening with old Nexus phones ?
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The alternate way to get official Nexus updates is to download the update zip file once someone copies it off their device and uploads it, and install it in whatever fashion works.
I rooted my Nexus One without unlocking the bootloader or using custom recovery. I definitely still got OTA updates and they worked fine, but would unroot the phone.
The solution is to use a custom recovery and apply the update .zip manually, then reflash superuser before rebooting. Whenever an OTA update comes out, someone eventually uses logcat to get the URL to the zip and posts it so anyone can download it.
I was rooted on Froyo and got the OTA update to Gingerbread no problem, but I lost root. I eventually got root again (Gingerbreak) and when the 2.3.4 update came out, I did it manually in custom recovery to keep root.
Now I run CM7.1 so I definitely don't get OTA updates from Google
TulpiX said:
You cant get them at all?
Not even: get update and apply it, loose root because of the update, reroot?
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It will often download and you can try but it will either fail, unroot you, or cause troubles.
You're best off applying the pre-rooted update, or unrooting and taking the OTA.
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When you're rooted you can't get the OTA updates. You have to unroot to apply them. That's true for all Android phones.
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True. However it's trivial to repackage an OTA update to a rooted update and since it's very compatible with the source in AOSP and you get working drivers very early you can start messing around with it straight away.
blunden said:
True. However it's trivial to repackage an OTA update to a rooted update and since it's very compatible with the source in AOSP and you get working drivers very early you can start messing around with it straight away.
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Of course, as is often the case for most phones supported here on XDA. the rooted OTA comes in the form of a .zip soon after it comes out.
slowz3r said:
you could do that, but chances are someone will get the OTA before you and pre root it for everyones pleasure and you can just flash that via recovery
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When flashing the rooted OTA via recovery, does it wipe the phone (apps and all)?
Also for the other method, when unrooting >> applying OTA >> rooting again, does it wipe the phone at any point during this process?
Help would be appreciated and rewarded!
I just received my OTA update notification and found the update zip itself in the cache of my phone. I can post that update zip here if a mod can come along and tell me where to put it. I am going to wait till I'm home so I can have my rooting facilities handy before starting.
phazerorg said:
I rooted my Nexus One without unlocking the bootloader or using custom recovery. I definitely still got OTA updates and they worked fine, but would unroot the phone.
The solution is to use a custom recovery and apply the update .zip manually, then reflash superuser before rebooting. Whenever an OTA update comes out, someone eventually uses logcat to get the URL to the zip and posts it so anyone can download it.
I was rooted on Froyo and got the OTA update to Gingerbread no problem, but I lost root. I eventually got root again (Gingerbreak) and when the 2.3.4 update came out, I did it manually in custom recovery to keep root.
Now I run CM7.1 so I definitely don't get OTA updates from Google
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+1. Exactly.
There is a lot of wrong (or slightly incorrect) information in this thread.
Have root has no impact whatsoever in your ability to receive or apply the OTA update. This has been the case on every Android device. However, if you have a custom recovery flashed, you will not be able to automatically apply the update - you will have to find the zip file in the cache and use your custom recovery to apply it.
On a slightly separate note, once you apply the update either automatically or manually via custom recovery, you will lose root. However, if you do have a custom recovery, as long as you flash ChainsDD's superuser package immediately after applying the update, but before rebooting, you will retain root.
On another separate not, if you flash the update as is from Google, it includes a file (/system/recovery-from-boot.p) that re-flashes the stock recovery on every boot, so you will lose your custom recovery. Either remove the file before flashing the update, or just re-flash your custom recovery.
Hi guys I was just wondering if I unlock and root my stock GSM Nexus, not installing CWM or any custom roms at all just keeping it stock (aside from Superuser, root). Does that stop or affect the OTA updates from google at all.
I did a search but its all basically about putting on CWM and flashing roms and pretty much all rooting help apps I found seem to want to install cwm as well so I'm curious if once I root it is my only way of updating is manually flashing roms myself
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1441478
Ahh damn my search skills must suck but I still have to say that the answer was a little vague too
Rooting will not affect OTA updates. If you make any changes to anything outside /sdcard/ it'll cause problems. Manual update will not wipe the device.
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I guess it means your fine and update will work as long as you don't go modding the original files ?
The thing is that i asked this question several times, and every time i get different answer..
I have also rooted my phone and unlocked bootloader, without any custom cWM or custom rom.. I have changed bootanimation (its in system, so its outside sdcard).
Will i be able to get OTA update, to see it and to install it ?
Thanks in advance
Laynee1 said:
The thing is that i asked this question several times, and every time i get different answer..
I have also rooted my phone and unlocked bootloader, without any custom cWM or custom rom.. I have changed bootanimation (its in system, so its outside sdcard).
Will i be able to get OTA update, to see it and to install it ?
Thanks in advance
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You should still get your OTA updates. They may break the root on your phone though but thats not really a big deal.
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Laynee1 said:
The thing is that i asked this question several times, and every time i get different answer..
I have also rooted my phone and unlocked bootloader, without any custom cWM or custom rom.. I have changed bootanimation (its in system, so its outside sdcard).
Will i be able to get OTA update, to see it and to install it ?
Thanks in advance
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You get a different answer because there are a lot of people who have no clue what they are talking about, passing on wrong information.
First of all, there is a difference between "getting" an OTA update notification, and having it install. Those are two separate things. You will get the OTA update notification. Whether or not it will install depends on many things, and it changes with every update. The update has a series of "asserts" or verifications that it runs through to make sure all the files it is going to update are there. You wanna know which files it checks? Don't be lazy - open up an OTA zip file and look at the updater-script file and go through it. There you will see yourself what files need to be stock. Doing it yourself is the only way to learn. Trusting a bunch of xda members who don't know what they are talking about is not the way to learn...
Having said all that, having an unlocked bootloader or having root will in no way impact your ability to receive OR install an OTA update.
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Thanks to both of you... The thing is that i really look forward to get 4.0.3 .. I dont want to flash custom roms, i want it all stock .. Im not asking about ETAs or smt.. Im just wishing for 4.0.3 . I heard that a lot of things are settled into 4.0.3.. Lags are gone, bugs are fixed..
Laynee1 said:
Thanks to both of you... The thing is that i really look forward to get 4.0.3 .. I dont want to flash custom roms, i want it all stock .. Im not asking about ETAs or smt.. Im just wishing for 4.0.3 . I heard that a lot of things are settled into 4.0.3.. Lags are gone, bugs are fixed..
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Unlocking or rooting does not mean you are going to flash custom ROMs...
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The only thing that will affect OTA is when you load a custom recovery onto the phone. THAT'S THE ANSWER!
Edit - These things also can affect OTA
Modifying or removing a file that is checked/patched.
Having a different radio installed.
Having a different bootloader installed (possibly).
Having a different kernel installed.
Have modified your build.prop to show a different version.
efrant said:
Unlocking or rooting does not mean you are going to flash custom ROMs...
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Ye i know .. I have unlocked bootloader and rooted phone.. But i dont want to flash any custom rom.. I wanna keep it stock.. Just , im saying i cant wait for OTA 4.0.3
jd1001 said:
I have seen this questions posted a number of times from the same user. The only thing that will affect OTA is when you load a custom recovery onto the phone. THAT'S THE ANSWER!
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..and an incorrect one at that. That is not the only thing.
Having a custom recovery will:
Prevent being able to install the OTA
Not stop the ota notification or being able to download it.
Other things that will break your ability to install an OTA, even if you do not have a custom recovery loaded (you can still get notified and download):
Modifying or removing a file that is checked/patched.
Having a different radio installed.
Having a different bootloader installed (possibly).
Having a different kernel installed.
Have modified your build.prop to show a different version.
You can install an ota if you modify the udapter-script if you know what you are doing even in the above scenarios (using a custom recovery).
adrynalyne said:
..and an incorrect one at that. That is not the only thing.
Having a custom recovery will:
Prevent being able to install the OTA
Not stop the ota notification or being able to download it.
Other things that will break your ability to install an OTA, even if you do not have a custom recovery loaded (you can still get notified and download):
Modifying or removing a file that is checked/patched.
Having a different radio installed.
Having a different bootloader installed (possibly).
Having a different kernel installed.
Have modified your build.prop to show a different version.
You can install an ota if you modify the udapter-script if you know what you are doing even in the above scenarios (using a custom recovery).
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Well thanks for correcting me eventhough I wasn't actually wrong in what I said.
Thanks for adding those bits too I had no idea that other mods could affect OTA although I have read here a few times that the bootloader won't affect OTA. There should be an actual topic on this because with all the information floating around it is confusing.
Just a nuance in your choice of words...
Having a custom recovery will not prevent you from installing an OTA, but it will prevent the OTA from installing automatically on its own - you can still manually flash it through your custom recovery...
The second list should be items that "may" affect OTA, rather than "will", since it is dependent on the individual updater-script...
I think we're on the same page though...
danger-rat said:
Just a nuance in your choice of words...
Having a custom recovery will not prevent you from installing an OTA, but it will prevent the OTA from installing automatically on its own - you can still manually flash it through your custom recovery...
The second list should be items that "may" affect OTA, rather than "will", since it is dependent on the individual updater-script...
I think we're on the same page though...
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Totally agree! Sometimes it's just frustrating becaus eeveryone thinks they know the right answer when in actual fact people post rubbish that is incorrect. I am guilty of it too but I always go back and edit when I make a false statement.
danger-rat said:
Just a nuance in your choice of words...
Having a custom recovery will not prevent you from installing an OTA, but it will prevent the OTA from installing automatically on its own - you can still manually flash it through your custom recovery...
The second list should be items that "may" affect OTA, rather than "will", since it is dependent on the individual updater-script...
I think we're on the same page though...
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No. Any signed ota package...the above will affect it. Going by what JBQ said, where every ota should include radios...I'd say I worded it ok.
Also, there is a darn good chance that the custom recovery will stop the install even manually...if it checks the recovery version for an update. That is fairly common. That said, if you remove asserts and know what you are doing, then sure you can flash manually.
This is the sort of uncertainty I am talking about. We should create a new topic and nail it down finally!
Here is a way to nail it down:
If you have modified your system in any way aside from rooting, then your chances of being able to install an ota update are greatly diminished.
adrynalyne said:
Here is a way to nail it down:
If you have modified your system in any way aside from rooting, then your chances of being able to ota are greatly diminished.
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Ha ha ha sorted!
adrynalyne said:
No. Any signed ota package...the above will affect it. Going by what JBQ said, where every ota should include radios...I'd say I worded it ok.
Also, there is a darn good chance that the custom recovery will stop the install even manually...if it checks the recovery version for an update. That is fairly common. That said, if you remove asserts and know what you are doing, then sure you can flash manually.
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No OTA update to date has checked the recovery. In fact, every OTA update to date has forced a flash of the stock recovery.
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Here we go again!
I am sorry if this question is answered already, but is there any way one can get the OTA again once the device is rooted? I mean by unroofing and factory reset or whatever means....
After rooting, OTA is still working but you'll probably lose root after it, excepted if your Superuser has an " OTA Survival " feature. In this case, you'll have to flash a stock ROM, and root it.
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azvlean said:
After rooting, OTA is still working but you'll probably lose root after it, excepted if your Superuser has an " OTA Survival " feature. In this case, you'll have to flash a stock ROM, and root it.
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be careful if you have a custom recovery, accepting an OTA might screw your device up.
sk8trix said:
be careful if you have a custom recovery, accepting an OTA might screw your device up.
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Thanks for replying.
Will the custom recovery be overridden by the stock one? Or is there any chance of bricking the device?
sriram18981 said:
Thanks for replying.
Will the custom recovery be overridden by the stock one? Or is there any chance of bricking the device?
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no sometimes what happens is the files dont install and you either get a reboot screen or some sort of black screen and then you might need to fix things with a toolkit through the pc or some hard kind of fix, t happened to me on a motorola Atrix a while back.
sriram18981 said:
I am sorry if this question is answered already, but is there any way one can get the OTA again once the device is rooted? I mean by unroofing and factory reset or whatever means....
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If your phone or tablet is rooted but with Stock Recovery the OTA should work just fine as long as you haven't modified any system files that get updated through the OTA. The bigger the update is the more likely it is you will lose root and that the OTA will find modified files. On Nexus devices I've personally never seen more than an error message if the OTA fails. At most I've only ever seen "unexpected contents in" error with whatever (modified) file is the problem. The OTA will always fail if you have a custom recovery but it's not really a big deal, you can always flash the OTA update zip in your custom recovery (TWRP?), more often than not before the OTA even rolls out to your device you can find the OTA zip here or on another website.
is there away to install SuperSU when you have stock recovery? I'm thinking that we have to have either CWM/TWRP to install the zip. or am I having a brain fart on this.....
Thanks for whomever can clear my cobwebs..
You need a custom recovery (TWRP or CWM).
bkeaver said:
is there away to install SuperSU when you have stock recovery? I'm thinking that we have to have either CWM/TWRP to install the zip. or am I having a brain fart on this.....
Thanks for whomever can clear my cobwebs..
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You can install it if you have the bootloader unlocked.
Use boot command instead of flash to boot into custom recovery and install su.
e.g
Fastboot boot twrp.img
uronfire said:
You can install it if you have the bootloader unlocked.
Use boot command instead of flash to boot into custom recovery and install su.
e.g
Fastboot boot twrp.img
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Yes, this.
However, why bother keeping stock recovery at all? Stock recovery is effectively neutered once rooted, as you can no longer install an OTA.
uronfire said:
You can install it if you have the bootloader unlocked.
Use boot command instead of flash to boot into custom recovery and install su.
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Fastboot boot twrp.img
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Thanks this worked :good:
so when I go into recovery now I get a image of a htc one with a red triangle and exclamation mark inside of it?? since I have never went into recovery on this phone before isn't it supposed to look like any other stock recovery??? and if this isn't right I have tried flashing the recovery already and still get the same result... can someone expand on this for me pls
bkeaver said:
so when I go into recovery now I get a image of a htc one with a red triangle and exclamation mark inside of it?? since I have never went into recovery on this phone before isn't it supposed to look like any other stock recovery??? and if this isn't right I have tried flashing the recovery already and still get the same result... can someone expand on this for me pls
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You have stock recovery.
BenPope said:
You have stock recovery.
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so it doesn't give you flash update and wipe and all that anymore.. sorry like I said I have never went into recovery on this phone.. just making sure...
bkeaver said:
so it doesn't give you flash update and wipe and all that anymore.. sorry like I said I have never went into recovery on this phone.. just making sure...
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I think you have to hold volume up and hit power or something.
ok I am good.. thank you... I'm putting everything back to stock because someone bought my phone and I just want to make sure everything is correct on it now.. thanks!!
redpoint73 said:
Yes, this.
However, why bother keeping stock recovery at all? Stock recovery is effectively neutered once rooted, as you can no longer install an OTA.
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i sold the phone and this is what they requested. I know the OTA wont work and I never keep stock recoveries on my phones but.... I guess they will find out for themselves
and btw thanks everyone for the help. I hit my thanks button but on my browser it it isn't showing it just to let you know....
bkeaver said:
i sold the phone and this is what they requested. I know the OTA wont work and I never keep stock recoveries on my phones but.... I guess they will find out for themselves
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Sounds like somebody that is a bit ill-informed. They want root, but they probably also want OTA (the 2 don't go together, IMO) and heard that you need stock recovery for OTA. I suppose they can change everything back that they modified with root, and unroot or hide root to install the OTA. But it just seems they are making life more complicated than it needs to be.
Also sounds like its a person that wants root, but not willing to do it themselves. But I suppose that's not really your problem!
Option to root and have ota is very easy :
Stock rom (unmodified but rooted)
Stock recovery
And you can ota. The ota will probably delete superuser but that's about it. The ota will not fail because its rooted as long as the stock rom/apps are unmodified
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Option to root and have ota is very easy :
Stock rom (unmodified but rooted)
Stock recovery
And you can ota. The ota will probably delete superuser but that's about it. The ota will not fail because its rooted as long as the stock rom/apps are unmodified
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yeah this is what I did for them so who knows.. I've never tried it that way but i guess it would work like that
redpoint73 said:
Yes, this.
However, why bother keeping stock recovery at all? Stock recovery is effectively neutered once rooted, as you can no longer install an OTA.
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Rooting doesn't affect ota's, at least not in my experience.
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Rooting doesn't affect ota's, at least not in my experience.
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Only if absolutely nothing was changed with the stock ROM.
Its more my point there is little point to installing OTAs on a rooted device.
redpoint73 said:
Only if absolutely nothing was changed with the stock ROM.
Its more my point there is little point to installing OTAs on a rooted device.
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I don't understand that statement. I still run stock sense, but with a few additions that don't affect ota's. So I still get updates while having things configured the way I want. I can also run things that require root such as titanium backup and a few others.
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I don't understand that statement. I still run stock sense, but with a few additions that don't affect ota's. So I still get updates while having things configured the way I want. I can also run things that require root such as titanium backup and a few others.
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Because once you accept an OTA, you will be unrooted. You will have to root again, either by installing custom recovery (than back to stock recovery so you can OTA) or the trick of booting custom recovery via adb to flash SU (as described here). Its just a lot of jumping through hoops with little added value.
On the other hand, if you have custom recovery installed, you can flash any of the array of stock rooted or awesome custom ROMs posted here. This includes stock rooted ROMs taken from OTA updates from lots of versions (often posted within days of the OTA starting to roll out), not just your carrier, so you can possibly get an update much faster than waiting for the OTA to roll out from your carrier (although that depends on what carrier version you have). You also don't have to constantly be worried "well, if I change this I won't get OTAs". You can do whatever the heck you want, and isn't that really the whole point of root?
Its just my opinion. And a lot of this may stem from the fact that I'm on AT&T, who are not only agonizingly slow about rolling out OTAs (sometimes 3-4 months or even later than other carriers on my past HTC device) and have even went to the effort to close exploits and prevent unlocking of bootloaders when rolling out new OTAs (on the One X EVITA). In fact there was even a bug (I assume it was a bug - others may accuse that it was intentional) where installing the Jellybean OTA with SuperCID and S-on bricked the phone.
As I said, its just an opinion. But there are many others on XDA that will agree that OTAs have no place on rooted Android devices.
And to be fair, I did cover myself and stated "there is little point" instead of "there is no point"
I have unlocked my bootloader, I have gone through the process of installing TWRP RC1, I have also installed SU 2.79 as guides have shown to do. I have also installed adaway after rooting, as well as titanium backup.
What is left to do now? I have read that if I stay on stock but rooted, when a security update comes out next month and I take it, my device turns into brickmode. I don't intend to stay on stock, I am taking the time to learn all the ins and outs of each rom that exists currently and trying to make a decision which one I like best, and especially what kind of challenging process exists for flashing the rom as well as putting TWRP back on then SU, and the confusing part about doing the vendor image. So yea, still learning. The last time I rooted and flashed anything was LGG3 days, so it's a learning curve again.
Am I supposed to be using a flash drive for anything? Or is that not needed if following the installation process for whatever rom is out there.
Thanks in advance, everyone has been very helpful so far.
There is no need for a flash drive. You can easily disable OTA on stock, and there is no need for a custom rom. In fact, I am rooted on stock. Also, the OTA should not be able to go through while rooted but I have seen myself that it does work surprisingly. My guess is this is because of the dual partitions, but no, you will not get bricked if you accept an OTA. The worst that would happen is that you would lose root. I'm guessing this is due to the dual slots. The OTA overwrites the other slot and swaps it on reboot. You should be able to just get in again but without root.
And if it does fail you can download the full OTA from google and install it with TWRP or adb install it.
Turn off updates in dev options. A couple of people have gotten hit with big data bills from it downloading over and over.
I'm unlocked but not rooted. I installed Franko kernel but need to be rooted to use his app. I'm trying to figure out root yet stay stock for now.
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b4u2 said:
I'm unlocked but not rooted. I installed Franko kernel but need to be rooted to use his app. I'm trying to figure out root yet stay stock for now.
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So you want to root it now so you can use his app? Second to the last post in the thread below.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel/help/stupidly-bootloop-help-t3554242/page2
TonikJDK said:
So you want to root it now so you can use his app? Second to the last post in the thread below.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel/help/stupidly-bootloop-help-t3554242/page2
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Yes and thank you very much!