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Hi im running this rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=741775
and i have recieved a notification for new software update (the one with better russian keyboard) and i tried downloading but it didnt work. Is it possible to do this (im rooted with unrevoked)? Also would i lose my root? i dont care if i do, im more interested in getting the new update and unrooting, thanks
yes you would lose root.
you are aware that if you install it you may never be able to root your phone again? well at least until one of the devs here finds a way.
i'm sure that update will get rooted and added to the ROMs soon if they haven't been already.
but other than that if you don't care then you should be find installing it.
i tried updating using system update, but it wouldnt work, my clockwork mod said the update failed
how can i update to this safely?
i know theres a way, do u know it?
cgrec92 said:
yes you would lose root.
you are aware that if you install it you may never be able to root your phone again? well at least until one of the devs here finds a way.
i'm sure that update will get rooted and added to the ROMs soon if they haven't been already.
but other than that if you don't care then you should be find installing it.
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It would be extremely easy to root the phone after installing this update...
adbirdie said:
i tried updating using system update, but it wouldnt work, my clockwork mod said the update failed
how can i update to this safely?
i know theres a way, do u know it?
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You shouldn't try to install OTA updates to rooted phones. It usually won't work.
If you want the new version you can either install an RUU with the official version and then root, or you can install a newer rooted stock ROM through recovery.
yaaaaa bout that im on a mac, tehehe, and i dont mind losing my root
^havent heard of an ruu working on mac
The easiest thing for you to do is install a new custom ROM that is based on the new version (mine and a couple of others).
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It would be extremely easy to root the phone after installing this update...
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hence the third line of my post.
what if i just wanted the update and i didnt want my root tho?
Reboot into recovery, apply zip from sd card, toggle signature verification so its off, the update zip is downloaded to your sd cards download folder. Apply it. Then use unrevoked to root your phone again.
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do i have to download the system update first, and then it will become update.zip, or is already do, can u walk me step by step through?
update: i tried what u said elmalote and it didnt work, what do i do now????
The ROM you are on has been updated with the latest OTA now so I'm not sure why you want to go another way than just flashing that ?
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the ota didnt go throught properly, i did what elmalote said, but it said installation aborted
elmalote said:
Reboot into recovery, apply zip from sd card, toggle signature verification so its off, the update zip is downloaded to your sd cards download folder. Apply it. Then use unrevoked to root your phone again.
Sent from my HTC Desire
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Is it a fully safe way to try install OTA update over the rooted ROM? I have branded ROM rooted using unrEVOked and I would like to try to install OTA update this way.
it didnt work for me, but if u try please tell me, it shouldnt screw up your phone.
does any one know how to install ota on a rooted phone
adbirdie said:
it didnt work for me, but if u try please tell me, it shouldnt screw up your phone.
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I'm not so sure about that. I've looked into OTA update downloaded into sd-card and it contains:
- system updates (new files, patches and so on)
- recovery img
- hboot update
- radio image
So let's assume that I toogle verification process (turn it off). OTA update will install over rooted ROM. After this, I have new recovery (because OTA update contains it).
I can see possibility of bricking my phone, when following situation appears:
- OS doesn't start-up (fell into boot-loop, whatever)
- recovery is back to stock, so no possibility to restore from nandroid backups
What do you think about that? Can someone confirm this is safe/dangerous?
Barthand, relax, i tried this, and i just rebooted my phone and it was fine. if you don't want to do it, then don't, but don't fret. it didn't work for me but it didn't screw up my phone either, now back to the main problem does anyone else have any solutions to install ota on a rooted phone.
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Hey guys,
I've got the latest update OTA ready to install, but since my device is rooted I'm wondering what do I do?
I've read threads stating to just update and re root it and others say it won't go through and I'd have to disable signatures in clockwork recovery !
hence I'm confused, please help
Cheers
Jackie
Its not safe to perform official ota updates on rooted devices.
Most of the time nothing happens, you just lose root. But anything could happen from losing your custom recovery to a non booting device, which is known to happen.
If you want updated software on your phone install a custom rom.
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same situation, my question is can i apply this RUU from PC, and what will happen exactly? Lose root, data?
i found this RUU RUU_Bravo_Froyo_HTC_WWE_2.29.405.5_Radio_32.49.00.32U_5.11.05.27_release_159811_signed
you can apply that RUU but you will lose root and all of your data so back everything up beforehand.
you may also need a Goldcard depending on whether your phone was unbranded from new or not.
mikep99 said:
you can apply that RUU but you will lose root and all of your data so back everything up beforehand.
you may also need a Goldcard depending on whether your phone was unbranded from new or not.
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I know about the Goldcard. Any idea on how to do a backup, i have read about using Titanium but i found it confusing. Little help would be useful
yeah, just use Titanium and back up all user apps as a batch process.
Backuo/Restore at the top of the initial screen.
Menu button and choose Batch
Then Backup all user apps.
you can then restore them after you've flashed the RUU.
also, make sure your contacts are backed up (probably by Google / Gmail).
mikep99 said:
yeah, just use Titanium and back up all user apps as a batch process.
Backuo/Restore at the top of the initial screen.
Menu button and choose Batch
Then Backup all user apps.
you can then restore them after you've flashed the RUU.
also, make sure your contacts are backed up (probably by Google / Gmail).
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OK, but there is an option all apps and data. what is data? is it app data?
Just back up user apps.
You don't want to restore any system data as you are changing roms.
Also, make sure you do a nand backup to go back to if needed.
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mikep99 said:
Just back up user apps.
You don't want to restore any system data as you are changing roms.
Also, make sure you do a nand backup to go back to if needed.
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Did it just now, went fine. Thanks for the help
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So there is still no way to just update by update.zip?
I dont want to reflash my whole phone, I got everything backed up propper
but I find it crap because its just a very small update.
Just ignore the update then, if your phone is working fine
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hmm an official update from htc, great. but if you are rooted and have tried a custom rom or even many such as me, then you dont want to loose that ability to flash great custom roms, just because htc released an update.
i am not sure, but i think that some users just unrevoked (rooted) their devices, but havent installed any custom roms and dont have the joy of it. i never want go to back to original rom. my future updates would be out of a custom rom. great forum here, love it
I just use the stock rom because i'm happy with it.
I rooted my phone because some apps wont work without it. I would try a custom rom but I still remember my HD2 and all the reconfigging I had to do.
Can you flash custom roms without reconfiguring everything?
Like.. when I flashed the last update.zip (405.2) I just installed it and I could start using my phone right away after the update. thats how I like it, but im not sure (more unsure) that this will work the same when I use a custom rom right?
pt0x said:
I just use the stock rom because i'm happy with it.
I rooted my phone because some apps wont work without it. I would try a custom rom but I still remember my HD2 and all the reconfigging I had to do.
Can you flash custom roms without reconfiguring everything?
Like.. when I flashed the last update.zip (405.2) I just installed it and I could start using my phone right away after the update. thats how I like it, but im not sure (more unsure) that this will work the same when I use a custom rom right?
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so you installed the latest update.zip on a rooted device? and did not loose your root functionality?
I'm willing to reroot my phone, I just wanna know if a rooted device when update could mess up !?
I wanna try custom ROMs sadly I can't due to the rebooting issue, will be sending in for repair soon this week !
jackie_jagger said:
so you installed the latest update.zip on a rooted device? and did not loose your root functionality?
I'm willing to reroot my phone, I just wanna know if a rooted device when update could mess up !?
I wanna try custom ROMs sadly I can't due to the rebooting issue, will be sending in for repair soon this week !
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Rooting your device voids your warranty just as much as flashing a custom rom would. Either way would have to use the stock ruu before you send if back so it makes no difference if your stock rooted or have a custom rom.
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Anyone in the US who woke up this morning and immediately tried Settings -> Software update -> Check new was greeted with a surprise from Verizon: Gingerbread available via OTA! It's a big update, so be sure you have a nice, strong, reliable 3G connection before attempting the upgrade.
My selfish question for the experts is: Now that I've performed the dance of joy at achieving S-OFF and root thanks to Alpharev, will I lose my happiness (S-OFF and/or root) if I allow Verizon to update my Android OS OTA? Are there any special precautions I should follow before, during or after the update? I already have a post-S-OFF Nandroid backup. Is that enough of a safety net?
Thanks all!
- Dave
ViperGeek said:
Anyone in the US who woke up this morning and immediately tried Settings -> Software update -> Check new was greeted with a surprise from Verizon: Gingerbread available via OTA! It's a big update, so be sure you have a nice, strong, reliable 3G connection before attempting the upgrade.
My selfish question for the experts is: Now that I've performed the dance of joy at achieving S-OFF and root thanks to Alpharev, will I lose my happiness (S-OFF and/or root) if I allow Verizon to update my Android OS OTA? Are there any special precautions I should follow before, during or after the update? I already have a post-S-OFF Nandroid backup. Is that enough of a safety net?
Thanks all!
- Dave
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There is a sticky thread in this forum about the GB RUU/OTA and also some threads in the General section (which is where this post should have been made). You may be putting your AlphaRevX S-OFF at risk by trying to install the OTA. In addition, before you can even attempt to install the OTA, you must remove ClockworkMod and install the original recovery.img from the Froyo ROM, so you would lose your 'safety net' backup, too.
There is already a fully rooted and de-bloated version of the ROM that you can safely flash using CWM and retain both root and S-OFF.
tpbklake said:
There is a sticky thread in this forum about the GB RUU/OTA and also some threads in the General section (which is where this post should have been made).
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Sorry for the misplaced thread. I attempted to place this announcement in the same place as the same announcement for China Telecom:
[ROM] Offical Gingerbread 2.3.4 ROM is out via OTA by ChinaTelcom
You may be putting your AlphaRevX S-OFF at risk by trying to install the OTA. In addition, before you can even attempt to install the OTA, you must remove ClockworkMod and install the original recovery.img from the Froyo ROM, so you would lose your 'safety net' backup, too.
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Thanks for the good advice and feedback.
There is already a fully rooted and de-bloated version of the ROM that you can safely flash using CWM and retain both root and S-OFF.
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FTW, the ROM/thread in question is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1161411
- Dave
recovery from the froyo ROM. GB 2.18.605.3 RUU leak whatever. just get back to stock recovery any of those from HTC will work. but you MAY lose root. and you MAY not be able to get it back other than XTC clip. Cheers.
tpbklake said:
There is a sticky thread in this forum about the GB RUU/OTA and also some threads in the General section (which is where this post should have been made). You may be putting your AlphaRevX S-OFF at risk by trying to install the OTA. In addition, before you can even attempt to install the OTA, you must remove ClockworkMod and install the original recovery.img from the Froyo ROM, so you would lose your 'safety net' backup, too.
There is already a fully rooted and de-bloated version of the ROM that you can safely flash using CWM and retain both root and S-OFF.
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Some of this is incorrect,
It is possible you may lose root but you will not lose your s-off. It's a higher version of the bootloader so it should not be overwritten. I just learned that the OTA won't even install without the stock recovery.
However I'm with tpbklake, I would personally just install a ROM that's based off of the new OTA update. No difference (minus the bloat of course) plus you'll still have root.
HELP
Where does the OTA update download to? I had it downloaded but flashed to the rmk ROm but now it keeps rebooting and I assume wanting to apply the official OTA as it is sitting on my phone - dumb move by me somehow but how can I kill this boot loop issue can I remove something from the sdcard?
Thanks in advance.
chrismoo said:
Where does the OTA update download to? I had it downloaded but flashed to the rmk ROm but now it keeps rebooting and I assume wanting to apply the official OTA as it is sitting on my phone - dumb move by me somehow but how can I kill this boot loop issue can I remove something from the sdcard?
Thanks in advance.
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all your base are belong to verizon!
well, you could try booting into recovery and starting all over again via clockwork.
if it's stuck in a loop, pull the battery, put it back in and hold down VOLUME DOWN + POWER to go into recovery
If you've rooted or plan to root, do not accept or bother with the OTA whatsoever.
The hard work has already been done, just install the ROM I put together.
I know I did something stupid at some point I have a backup so will restore that and try again - just thought there might have been a shortcut - like removing a file.
Live and learn!
chrismoo said:
Where does the OTA update download to? I had it downloaded but flashed to the rmk ROm but now it keeps rebooting and I assume wanting to apply the official OTA as it is sitting on my phone - dumb move by me somehow but how can I kill this boot loop issue can I remove something from the sdcard?
Thanks in advance.
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the OTA will not install without the stock recovery. Sounds like you have CWM recovery on your phone.
pull the battery out
pop everything back in, hold vol down and then power. It'll load to the bootloader, once there it'll check for a P32IMG file name after that you'll have the option to select recovery.
you might want to wipe data, cache, and dalvik cache within recovery before installing the new rmk rom again.
Which ROM did you come from?
I came from CM7 back to stock (where it downloaded the OTA) and then I tried to RMK. I have Nandroid backups so will just try a complete wipe and then try RMK again.
so lets say you crack you're screen or something and need to get a new phone via insurance. couldn't you download this ota and then lose s-off and root so they would have no idea you did it in the first place?
applejacks108 said:
so lets say you crack you're screen or something and need to get a new phone via insurance. couldn't you download this ota and then lose s-off and root so they would have no idea you did it in the first place?
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Replies earlier in this thread suggest that you'd first have to restore the original Recovery image, replacing, CWM, before you could load the updated OTA update. At that point, you'd be running GB, unrooted, but /may/ still have S-OFF.
- Dave
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That is correct. If anyone remembers the DInc1 we had to flash stock radio, s-on file, stock RUU. As of now we have NO s-on file to flash.
NoClue....
The OTA 4.4.3 update is now available for my phone, but I've rooted it, and I've read the horror stories so I'm not going to blunder blindly into this
My rooting experience went a little poorly - I thought I was doing the right thing by backing everything up on the phone first, using Helium. Unfortunately Helium simply did the backup onto the internal storage itself, so it all got wiped during the process anyway.
Anyway, I got over that, but now I want to install the OTA 4.4.3 update. So here's the things I've done which I think are relevant:
1. Installed TWRP recovery, as required for rooting
2. Have flashed the SuperSU program for root
3. AFAIK I'm still on "stock" - I haven't gone out to find any special roms etc
4. Had to reinstall the calc and flashlight apps as they were missing after the whole exercise (so many I'm not on stock, or they would be there?)
5. I have installed Xposed Framework and the Sense 6 tweaks and GravityBox apps.
6. I tried to uninstall some system apps (Facebook, Twitter, things I don't use) with a root uninstaller program, but every time the phone reboots they re-appear, so I think I need s-off to do that properly?
7. I've 'Disabled' the weibo app through the standard app info button
I understand I have to go back to the "stock recovery" in order to do the OTA update, but is there anything else in the above list that I need to do anything about?
Will going back to the stock recovery mean I lose all of the content on my device again, and have to restore it from a backup? If I use the HTC backup app to back up all my phone data on the rooted 4.4.2 I'm running, can this then be restored onto the 4.4.3 version?
Also is the problem I mention in #6 solved by going s-off?
Lanthanide said:
The OTA 4.4.3 update is now available for my phone, but I've rooted it, and I've read the horror stories so I'm not going to blunder blindly into this
My rooting experience went a little poorly - I thought I was doing the right thing by backing everything up on the phone first, using Helium. Unfortunately Helium simply did the backup onto the internal storage itself, so it all got wiped during the process anyway.
Anyway, I got over that, but now I want to install the OTA 4.4.3 update. So here's the things I've done which I think are relevant:
1. Installed TWRP recovery, as required for rooting
2. Have flashed the SuperSU program for root
3. AFAIK I'm still on "stock" - I haven't gone out to find any special roms etc
4. Had to reinstall the calc and flashlight apps as they were missing after the whole exercise (so many I'm not on stock, or they would be there?)
5. I have installed Xposed Framework and the Sense 6 tweaks and GravityBox apps.
6. I tried to uninstall some system apps (Facebook, Twitter, things I don't use) with a root uninstaller program, but every time the phone reboots they re-appear, so I think I need s-off to do that properly?
7. I've 'Disabled' the weibo app through the standard app info button
I understand I have to go back to the "stock recovery" in order to do the OTA update, but is there anything else in the above list that I need to do anything about?
Will going back to the stock recovery mean I lose all of the content on my device again, and have to restore it from a backup? If I use the HTC backup app to back up all my phone data on the rooted 4.4.2 I'm running, can this then be restored onto the 4.4.3 version?
Also is the problem I mention in #6 solved by going s-off?
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Flashing back stock recovery you won't loose anything. This just happens during the unlock process if done with HTCDev.
Good that you are not S-Off and FB, Twitter and so on are still installed, as otherwise you wouldn't be abled to perform the OTA. An OTA is only going to run if the whole system is unchanged.
Only thing that's quite likely going to happen, is that you root is lost after the OTA. Tthus you would have to flash TWRP and the SuperSu again, after the OTA.
HTCNerdYoda said:
Flashing back stock recovery you won't loose anything. This just happens during the unlock process if done with HTCDev.
Good that you are not S-Off and FB, Twitter and so on are still installed, as otherwise you wouldn't be abled to perform the OTA. An OTA is only going to run if the whole system is unchanged.
Only thing that's quite likely going to happen, is that you root is lost after the OTA. Tthus you would have to flash TWRP and the SuperSu again, after the OTA.
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I thought it didn't matter if you were s/off or not, so long as recovery and OS were stock and CID matched (or were SuperCID).
bruce7373 said:
I thought it didn't matter if you were s/off or not, so long as recovery and OS were stock and CID matched (or were SuperCID).
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It doesn't matter in general. But it matters in case that you used S-Off to uninstall system APPs Thus an OTA wouldn't succeed.
That's what I wanted to say in my post above
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Wow found my answer already. Just to confirm. I'm in the same situation. Rooted. Installed twrp and su. Went to s-off with firewater but got the whelp message.
Got the OTA update in this morning. Tried installing it, went to my recovery so I tried to install it. It failed of course. Phone is still ok.
I'm just making sure I'll do this ok. Gotta go back to original recovery then install it or am I just better off going to a custom rom?
On my vivid, I used paranoid when it was available, used pacman for a bit. Also used the CyanogenMod. I know recommendation shouldn't be made but i know on my vivid there were lots of issues since there wasn't a specific team rolling out the roms but someone porting them from the specific team. Is there a team dedicated to this phone? If so are their roms leaps ahead of the ones ported over? Just looking at the downloads you can tell which one is the most popular, that doesn't always mean they are the best.
Thanks for any advice.
Yuskow said:
Wow found my answer already. Just to confirm. I'm in the same situation. Rooted. Installed twrp and su. Went to s-off with firewater but got the whelp message.
Got the OTA update in this morning. Tried installing it, went to my recovery so I tried to install it. It failed of course. Phone is still ok.
I'm just making sure I'll do this ok. Gotta go back to original recovery then install it or am I just better off going to a custom rom?
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I would revert to stock recovery and get me this OTA. And you need a 2.22.xxx FW for some of the custom ROMs currently available.
It's the fastest way to update your firmware anyway
Alternatively you could try to perform an S-Off using SunShine and paying 25$ for it, as I did to flash the newest FW.
HTCNerdYoda said:
I would revert to stock recovery and get me this OTA. And you need a 2.22.xxx FW for some of the custom ROMs currently available.
It's the fastest way to update your firmware anyway
Alternatively you could try to perform an S-Off using SunShine and paying 25$ for it, as I did to flash the newest FW.
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Got my cid as bm 001
so i got the nandroid backup here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2701376
now i just do a restore under twrp?
is the s-off really worth it?
Yuskow said:
Got my cid as bm 001
so i got the nandroid backup here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2701376
now i just do a restore under twrp?
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As long as the ROM you are using is stock and you only routetd, you just need to flash stock recovery for the OTA to succeed.
Yuskow said:
is the s-off really worth it?
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Well from my point of view: yes it is. Needed S-Off to debrand my One M8 and change CID to a WWE one. Well and additionally you can do a lot more if the security flag is on off (never without propper reading before doing it of course).
Yuskow said:
Wow found my answer already. Just to confirm. I'm in the same situation. Rooted. Installed twrp and su. Went to s-off with firewater but got the whelp message.
Got the OTA update in this morning. Tried installing it, went to my recovery so I tried to install it. It failed of course. Phone is still ok.
I'm just making sure I'll do this ok. Gotta go back to original recovery then install it or am I just better off going to a custom rom?
On my vivid, I used paranoid when it was available, used pacman for a bit. Also used the CyanogenMod. I know recommendation shouldn't be made but i know on my vivid there were lots of issues since there wasn't a specific team rolling out the roms but someone porting them from the specific team. Is there a team dedicated to this phone? If so are their roms leaps ahead of the ones ported over? Just looking at the downloads you can tell which one is the most popular, that doesn't always mean they are the best.
Thanks for any advice.
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I had the Vivid as well and ended up with a 4.4.2 ROM which seemed to be the most current that was available at the time, but can't remember the name or the dev.
As for the M8, I've been on ARHD almost exclusively and think it's one of the best ROMs out there. I've tried Viper, MaximusHD, Renovate also, but always come back to ARHD.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2694917
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HTCNerdYoda said:
As long as the ROM you are using is stock and you only routetd, you just need to flash stock recovery for the OTA to succeed.
Well from my point of view: yes it is. Needed S-Off to debrand my One M8 and change CID to a WWE one. Well and additionally you can do a lot more if the security flag is on off (never without propper reading before doing it of course).
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I have the WWE edition and am currently with ATT. I'm considering their new update mainly to see if the new firmware/radio will give me better LTE speeds. The fw is 2.23 based. Will that be a problem if or when I return to ARHD which is on 2.22?
bruce7373 said:
I have the WWE edition and am currently with ATT. I'm considering their new update mainly to see if the new firmware/radio will give me better LTE speeds. The fw is 2.23 based. Will that be a problem if or when I return to ARHD which is on 2.22?
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That's a really good question. Regarding ViperOne I could tell that running 1.8.0 (which was on 1.54.xx base) with 2.22.xxx FW worked flawlessly. So I would guess this should work just fine.
At least it's worth a try. Maybe better ask in the ROM thread.
Used arhd on my vivid for a bit. Must say it was an ok rom but lots of issues in general with all new roms on the vivid. Hardware too outdated. Maybe I'll give it a shot. Really leaning to a de-senced one.
HTCNerdYoda said:
Flashing back stock recovery you won't loose anything. This just happens during the unlock process if done with HTCDev.
Good that you are not S-Off and FB, Twitter and so on are still installed, as otherwise you wouldn't be abled to perform the OTA. An OTA is only going to run if the whole system is unchanged.
Only thing that's quite likely going to happen, is that you root is lost after the OTA. Tthus you would have to flash TWRP and the SuperSu again, after the OTA.
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Ok, that's encouraging.
My CID is HTC__621 although I don't think I need that for just flashing back to stock recovery. My version is 1.54.709.12, so I downloaded the matching recovery from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2701376 and flashed it. I confirmed that the stock recovery was installed by booting to it and getting the red triangle etc.
Then I downloaded the OTA upgrade and told it to install. I didn't watch the installation progress, but eventually it went to the red triangle screen and finally rebooted. But I'm still on 1.54.709.12, so I take that to mean the OTA failed. When I go to system update, it checks and finds one available and offers to download it again, which I haven't done.
I'm wondering if 'disabling' the weibo program could have caused the update to fail? Or possibly I *did* actually uninstall a stock program or two that I mentioned at #6 and that's what's preventing the update?
Anyway, I made a complete nandroid backup on the external SD card before I flashed the recovery. It seems like the easiest approach now would be to flash a stock ROM for HTC__621 then do the OTA upgrade. After that, I could restore my HTC sync (the app) backup from the cloud, but if I wasn't happy with that I could recover the data portion of my nandroid backup?
Lanthanide said:
Ok, that's encouraging.
Anyway, I made a complete nandroid backup on the external SD card before I flashed the recovery. It seems like the easiest approach now would be to flash a stock ROM for HTC__621 then do the OTA upgrade. After that, I could restore my HTC sync (the app) backup from the cloud, but if I wasn't happy with that I could recover the data portion of my nandroid backup?
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In fact you are right. The OTA fails as something on the system has been changed that's critical to the OTA.
So I would back up the data on the phone I need, download a stock nandroid backup for your CID, install with twrp, re-flash stock recovery and perform the OTA again.
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In fact you are right. The OTA fails as something on the system has been changed that's critical to the OTA.
So I would back up the data on the phone I need, download a stock nandroid backup for your CID, install with twrp, re-flash stock recovery and perform the OTA again.
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Ok, so I put on a stock nadroid backup for HTC__621, changed to stock recovery, but the OTA update is still failing at around the 30% mark.
Actually I've just noticed that the stock ROM I put on doesn't have the calc or flashlight apps, but when I originally bought the phone they were on there. I had subsequently installed them using the apps on this thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2699906
But maybe that is what is preventing me from doing the OTA now?
Edit: Right, so doing some more reading, it seems that HTC included these 'stock' apps in the /data directory instead of /system, so when doing the HTCDev install, they get wiped. But there was a note in that thread saying that for the One M7, they would actually do a hash of those apps too and if they weren't there the update would fail.
Someone linked to this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2703759 which says the APKs in the first one were from the M7, and these are from M8, and it also included another one called Seven Digital (yet another bloatware app I don't care about, hence why I didn't notice it was gone). Anyway I installed those 3 apps, but the OTA update still fails at around the 30% mark. I notice that the thread says preload APKs for 1.54.401.5, but my phone is running 1.54.709.12, so if they really are doing hashing for all of these apps, the update might be expectly a slightly different version and therefore fail the hash check?
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Right, posting as new post because I solved it!
I searched through the collection thread and luckily found someone else who has HTC__621 who wanted to do the 4.4.3 upgrade as well. ckpv5 stepped in to lend a hand with this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=54598052&postcount=1514
The TWRP stock ROM he posted there includes the flashlight and calculator app, as well as another one that looks like it was missing - WeChat. So now the OTA update has applied as expected. :highfive
I'll suggest Mr Hofs remove the existing nandroid backup for HTC__621 that he has there because it isn't complete.
Weirdly after all that was done, now that I have 4.4.3, the calc and flashlight apps are again missing; no sign of WeChat either. So I'll probably have to go through this whole performance again next time I want to OTA update?
Edit: More findings. In installing Xposed Framework on my phone, it can't do the 'classical' install because of S-on, instead it flashes it through recovery. So I suspect this could have been preventing the OTA update as well.
Lanthanide said:
Weirdly after all that was done, now that I have 4.4.3, the calc and flashlight apps are again missing; no sign of WeChat either. So I'll probably have to go through this whole performance again next time I want to OTA update?
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Because you relocked bootloader when you did the OTA update. So those files were deleted when you re-unlocked bootloader after OTA done.
There's a TWRP backup for the latest here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=55097943&postcount=1744
Just a note : there is no need to relock bootloader to do OTA update.
ckpv5 said:
Because you relocked bootloader when you did the OTA update. So those files were deleted when you re-unlocked bootloader after OTA done.
There's a TWRP backup for the latest here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=55097943&postcount=1744
Just a note : there is no need to relock bootloader to do OTA update.
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Ok, at least there's an explanation for what happened, but I didn't at any point explicitly lock the bootloader. All I did was:
1. Flash TWRP recovery
2. Flash the ROM you provided
3. Boot the phone, going through the setup stuff to configure wifi etc
4. Booted to fastboot and flashed to stock recovery
5. Rebooted phone, downloaded and installed OTA update
6. Booted to fastboot and re-flashed TWRP, ran nandroid backup and then installed superSU when offered
At what point would the locking of the bootloader have occurred?
Lanthanide said:
At what point would the locking of the bootloader have occurred?
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Re-unlocking bootloader is one scenario that may happen that remove the preload folder.
Restoring an old backup which doesn't have the preload folder is another scenario.
Anyway that is easily can be fix by pushing the preload folder from OTA zip to /data
then make a new backup for future OTA
ckpv5 said:
Re-unlocking bootloader is one scenario that may happen that remove the preload folder.
Restoring an old backup which doesn't have the preload folder is another scenario.
Anyway that is easily can be fix by pushing the preload folder from OTA zip to /data
then make a new backup for future OTA
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Ok, well like I said, I didn't explicitly choose the lock the bootloader at any point, and the nandroid backup that you created *did* have the extra apps in there (I confirmed their presence at step 3 in my sequence).
Note that I'm not trying to be argumentative, just explaining my experience in case this might help others in the future.
Hi all, please correct me if I placed this at the wrong thread.
I recently was flasing my phone with stock roms due to some technical difficulties I had. I realize the system will create an Android folder in my ext SD card. Is this normal? Do I need to be worry about it?
By the way, I am currently using 3.32.707.9 as my ROM, when I check my OS version in bootloader, there isn't anything there. Why is that so?
Can I flash back a lower version of ROM? For instance, 1.54.707.7
Thanks for helping in advance!
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jkidz91 said:
I recently was flasing my phone with stock roms due to some technical difficulties I had. I realize the system will create an Android folder in my ext SD card. Is this normal? Do I need to be worry about it? Totally normal, no need to worry.
By the way, I am currently using 3.32.707.9 as my ROM, when I check my OS version in bootloader, there isn't anything there. Why is that so? This is usually due to using an older version of TWRP (known bug). This number is useful for determining your current firmware version (hboot, radio, etc.) but you can also determine that by looking at the hboot number and radio numbers themselves
Can I flash back a lower version of ROM? For instance, 1.54.707.7 Yes. Usually, you want the ROM version (1.x, 2.x etc.) to correspond to your current firmware. But its usually been found that a higher number firmware will usually work with older (smaller number) ROMs
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Which version of TWRP should I be using for now?
How do I verify which firmware am I using?
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Which version of TWRP should I be using for now?
How do I verify which firmware am I using?
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What are your current hboot and radio baseband numbers?
Do you know what Android version you were on (4.4.2, 4.4.3, etc.) before you unlocked the bootloader and started flashing ROMs?
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What are your current hboot and radio baseband numbers?
Do you know what Android version you were on (4.4.2, 4.4.3, etc.) before you unlocked the bootloader and started flashing ROMs?
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Current hboot is 3.19.0.0000
Radio baseband: 1.25.21331147A1.06G_20.69.4196.01_F
Previously should be on 4.4.2...I guess...ROM version 1.54.707.7
jkidz91 said:
Current hboot is 3.19.0.0000
Radio baseband: 1.25.21331147A1.06G_20.69.4196.01_F
Previously should be on 4.4.2...I guess...ROM version 1.54.707.7
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Your hboot and radio numbers indicate your phone was either purchased with Lollipop firmware, or updated to LP firmware at some point.
You should use the latest version TWRP 2.8.7.
redpoint73 said:
Your hboot and radio numbers indicate your phone was either purchased with Lollipop firmware, or updated to LP firmware at some point.
You should use the latest version TWRP 2.8.7.
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Yea, I upgraded to LP through phone update once.
Btw, I installed the latest version of TWRP as u said and was prompt by it by saying "TWRP has detected an unmodified system partition" and for permission to allow modifications...should I allow it?
jkidz91 said:
Yea, I upgraded to LP through phone update once.
Btw, I installed the latest version of TWRP as u said and was prompt by it by saying "TWRP has detected an unmodified system partition" and for permission to allow modifications...should I allow it?
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I haven't seen this before, its a new feature for 2.8.7 (which you can have Googled just as easily as I just did):
we have created a new feature in TWRP that detects if the system partition has ever been mounted read/write. If not, you will be prompted asking if you want TWRP to mount system as read/write. If you choose not to allow TWRP to mount as read/write, TWRP won’t prompt to install SuperSU and TWRP won’t try to patch the stock ROM to prevent TWRP from being replaced by stock recovery.
https://twrp.me/site/update/2015/06/22/twrp-2.8.7.0-released.html
Its actually not at all clear anymore what you are trying to do. You've posted in 2 or 3 different threads, asking about flashing firmware, running the RUU, or now you've flashed TWRP and maybe flashing an old 1.54 based ROM? Can't tell what your plan or end goal is at this time; and I'm not sure you know either.
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I haven't seen this before, its a new feature for 2.8.7 (which you can have Googled just as easily as I just did):
we have created a new feature in TWRP that detects if the system partition has ever been mounted read/write. If not, you will be prompted asking if you want TWRP to mount system as read/write. If you choose not to allow TWRP to mount as read/write, TWRP won’t prompt to install SuperSU and TWRP won’t try to patch the stock ROM to prevent TWRP from being replaced by stock recovery.
https://twrp.me/site/update/2015/06/22/twrp-2.8.7.0-released.html
Its actually not at all clear anymore what you are trying to do. You've posted in 2 or 3 different threads, asking about flashing firmware, running the RUU, or now you've flashed TWRP and maybe flashing an old 1.54 based ROM? Can't tell what your plan or end goal is at this time; and I'm not sure you know either.
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Basically my goal is to update my phone to LP..sorry for the confusion caused. I have managed to update the phone according to the link you gave as for the TWRP, I did some Google search as well...and decided not to allow the function...am I doing correct on this?
jkidz91 said:
Basically my goal is to update my phone to LP..sorry for the confusion caused. I have managed to update the phone according to the link you gave
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Meaning you updated by RUU?
jkidz91 said:
as for the TWRP, I did some Google search as well...and decided not to allow the function...am I doing correct on this?
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So you updated (apparently) to LP by RUU. Now what are you trying to do? Its still not clear.
Are you trying to root? If so, I'd allow the change, and then flash SuperSU 2.46 to root.
The text and link I provided is pretty clear about the mentioned TWRP function. The main reason to say "no" is to have a fully stock image, of which you can make a nandroid backup. Otherwise, you will probably want to pick "yes".
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Meaning you updated by RUU?
So you updated (apparently) to LP by RUU. Now what are you trying to do? Its still not clear.
Are you trying to root? If so, I'd allow the change, and then flash SuperSU 2.46 to root.
The text and link I provided is pretty clear about the mentioned TWRP function. The main reason to say "no" is to have a fully stock image, of which you can make a nandroid backup. Otherwise, you will probably want to pick "yes".
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Correct me if I am wrong, if I would want to later on update my phone to higher OS, I should not allow TWRP to mount the system..correct?
Currently my situation is, I did not allow TWRP to do the mounting and I rooted the phone...and everything is working fine so far...does that mean I am safe?
jkidz91 said:
Correct me if I am wrong, if I would want to later on update my phone to higher OS, I should not allow TWRP to mount the system..correct?
Currently my situation is, I did not allow TWRP to do the mounting and I rooted the phone...and everything is working fine so far...does that mean I am safe?
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If its working fine (for whatever purposed you need root), than you're good.
Although obviously, if you want to modify the system partition in the future, you will need write protection for that partition disabled.
You can always make a stock TWRP backup (which you should do, anyway) with the system unmounted, to return to for future OTA. Or return to stock using the RUU.
You also need the stock recovery to update by OTA. So your phone is not going to OTA update (update will fail) in its present configuration (with TWRP installed), regardless.
redpoint73 said:
If its working fine (for whatever purposed you need root), than you're good.
Although obviously, if you want to modify the system partition in the future, you will need write protection for that partition disabled.
You can always make a stock TWRP backup (which you should do, anyway) with the system unmounted, to return to for future OTA. Or return to stock using the RUU.
You also need the stock recovery to update by OTA. So your phone is not going to OTA update (update will fail) in its present configuration (with TWRP installed), regardless.
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I need the Titanium backup to recover my apps and data ><
Hmmm..TWRP backup of the ROM...this is what you are talking about right?
Before that, does that mean that if the system has been tampered before, the OTA will not go in? This is what the link you gave just now talking about?
About the stock recovery, I am fully aware of this
I am really sorry if I keep causing trouble to you...I just want to double confirm...I have spent few days just to get my phone for working right...really exhausting to the mind ><
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Hmmm..TWRP backup of the ROM...this is what you are talking about right?
Before that, does that mean that if the system has been tampered before, the OTA will not go in? This is what the link you gave just now talking about?
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Yes, the new feature seems to be aimed at ensuring the ROM is untampered, for making a full "stock" backup for OTA purposes.
jkidz91 said:
I am really sorry if I keep causing trouble to you...
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No trouble at all. If I didn't enjoy helping, I wouldn't bother responding.
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Yes, the new feature seems to be aimed at ensuring the ROM is untampered, for making a full "stock" backup for OTA purposes.
No trouble at all. If I didn't enjoy helping, I wouldn't bother responding.
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Got it! Whenever I do back up, do I need to back up the data? As I already got the Titanium to backup all my user apps.
What I am saying is the recovery let me choose what to back up...I chose only system, and boot i think...
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No trouble at all. If I didn't enjoy helping, I wouldn't bother responding.
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Hi, after updating to Lollipop and using it for past few days, everything seems to be working fine...however, I have got a slight issue with Facebook app...whenever I am on my mobile data, I will have error loading the latest news feed. It is working fine on WiFi.
I have tested loading other apps with Mobile Data only...and they are working fine...I have researched online and some said I shall do a factory reset before and after a major update to OS...should I do this?
jkidz91 said:
Got it! Whenever I do back up, do I need to back up the data? As I already got the Titanium to backup all my user apps.
What I am saying is the recovery let me choose what to back up...I chose only system, and boot i think...
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If the intent was to just backup a "stock ROM" than no need to backup user data.
If the intent is to make a recovery image, that you can just revert to and start using with no (or very little other actions) than backup data. But as you said, you can restore data (at least app data) with Titanium.
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jkidz91 said:
Hi, after updating to Lollipop and using it for past few days, everything seems to be working fine...however, I have got a slight issue with Facebook app...whenever I am on my mobile data, I will have error loading the latest news feed. It is working fine on WiFi.
I have tested loading other apps with Mobile Data only...and they are working fine...I have researched online and some said I shall do a factory reset before and after a major update to OS...should I do this?
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If you updated by RUU then no need to factory reset. RUU already wiped all partitions, in a much more comprehensive way than factory reset.
Try clearing app cache for Facebook; or uninstalling Facebook app, and reinstalling, without restore data for that app with Titanium.
redpoint73 said:
If you updated by RUU then no need to factory reset. RUU already wiped all partitions, in a much more comprehensive way than factory reset.
Try clearing app cache for Facebook; or uninstalling Facebook app, and reinstalling, without restore data for that app with Titanium.
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Tried doing so...not working...anyway, can I run the RUU again to wipe off the entire phone and set up as new?
jkidz91 said:
Tried doing so...not working...anyway, can I run the RUU again to wipe off the entire phone and set up as new?
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You can run the RUU until the cows come home, if you want.
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You can run the RUU until the cows come home, if you want.
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What does that mean? >< i tried to do it...it failed...should I just download a stock 4.19.707.2 rom and flash it?