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Speaker on phone, really that bad?

I know the Nexus was released today,and instead of asking questions, I should be out getting it, but I feel that I need to ask this question before I go ahead and get it.
The speaker for the speaker phone and audio playback.....is it really as bad as reviewers say? I only ask because I use the speaker on my phone about 2-3 hours per day listening to podcasts, music and such. As silly as it sounds, it is really high on the make or brake list of the phone.
Also, in this same realm, did the update that is being pushed out doing anything for it? I am just curious if it is actual hardware or just software. I know, with my Touchpad, when running WebOS, sound comes out of the speakers perfectly, but when I boot up the CyanogenMod based XRON ROM on it, it is rather awful and pretty much unusable. So, its obviously a software thing, not a hardware thing.
I don't mind waiting a bit to see if more users have more opinions on it, and worst case scenario, if need be, I wouldn't mind waiting until the Razr gets ICS, or at least the CyanogenMod version of it..
Thanks

I haven't had any issues with audio playback. I'm not entirely sure what issues your referring to either so perhaps you could clarify.
Overall I'm very happy with my purchase and would highly recommend it. (coming from a HTC Desire)

There were several places I read it.
This was from this morning (http://tinyurl.com/cv932ov):
Galaxy Nexus speaker blows: The speaker on the Galaxy Nexus is basically useless and one of the worst speakers I have ever used on a phone. It is nearly impossible to use it as a speakerphone and forget about listening to music and podcasts without a headset or external speaker. Some have suggested it might be a software issue and I can only hope so since I can’t even use it with such low volume. The speakers on the iPhone 4S are much better and I have no complaints at all.
I remember both The Cell Phone Junkie and also someone on Android Central mentioning it as well, but with the 2 minutes of searching, I couldn't find it easily on their sites. Its seems people have complained about them being "tinny" and not great at high volumes..
From what it sounds, you have no problems with it at all?

its really not that bad but it improves drastically with the free volume + app
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After having a read of that article I'm pretty sure this guy has a biased opinion. Many of these so called issues don't even make sense. For example, better camera (if you look at the example shots hardly any noticeable difference), speaker issue (none of what is stated I can relate to), display too big?(irrelevant, user preference) and 4s being a world phone (doesn't make sense as a GSM gnexus is available).
So basically I don't think this guy really knows what he's talking about. But this is only my opinion

I guess sitting here reading the internet all day at work is going to make my head spin and I should probably just go pick the thing up and actually try it out for myself.
Or, with a bad speaker, I guess that is a way to convince the wife to let me put wifi/bluetooth speakers throughout my house.

MikeDaub said:
I guess sitting here reading the internet all day at work is going to make my head spin and I should probably just go pick the thing up and actually try it out for myself.
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Great idea! Best way to make a decision.

RTContent said:
After having a read of that article I'm pretty sure this guy has a biased opinion. Many of these so called issues don't even make sense. For example, better camera (if you look at the example shots hardly any noticeable difference), speaker issue (none of what is stated I can relate to), display too big?(irrelevant, user preference) and 4s being a world phone (doesn't make sense as a GSM gnexus is available).
So basically I don't think this guy really knows what he's talking about. But this is only my opinion
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Ohh, I agree 100% that the article was written by an Iphone user, designed to draw people from Android to IOS. But, like I mentioned, I have heard it before and figured it was easy enough to ask in the forums about it.
I think most of the reviews have come from the GSM version, to there might be a software upgrade that might have helped it..

RTContent said:
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Yea but..... That's another 6 envious hours of sitting at my desk reading about people getting it.. I want it now..

Another Vote for Volume+

Its not bad. Its just not very loud. Shoulda called it quiet speaker.
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I never thought my Incredible's speaker was really loud, but it always worked good enough for what I needed. Maybe I just need a Jawbone or some sort of Bluetooth speaker... That would solve all the issues if I couldn't stand using the one on the phone..

speaker is fine, used it all day so far... I'm fairly critical about speakerphones and music, and it sounds fine... no samsung phone has a "great" speaker, but this one is tolerable

Does your Galaxy Nexus have this bug?

I'm not sure if this is just a Sprint Galaxy Nexus bug, but I'm curious to see if its a universal Galaxy nexus bug... Let me know your results!
I explain the bug here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfeyLN7pWRA&list=PLB9F7946C16BE343B&index=19&feature=plpp_video

Happens on my i9250 model. Can only hear it if I literally press the phone speaker to my ear.
Never use touch sounds though.
Is there a bug report in that we can star?

I swear you guys will whine about anything...is it really that serious?

malibu_23 said:
I swear you guys will whine about anything...is it really that serious?
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No way, not very serious at all actually. I say that in the video as well. Although your phone should not be doing this.

What an anal retentive worry... Who cares!? #firstworldproblems
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Nope. I'm on IMM30B (Verizon). But if it is happening, it's so quiet I can't hear it (and it was right up to my ear).

Yes I have this. Sprint version.

qbking77 said:
No way, not very serious at all actually. I say that in the video as well. Although your phone should not be doing this.
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Wait, you're saying that the device should not activate the speaker when a command is initiated which involves a sound output???
I can agree that it should turn the speaker off quicker, after the sound is played...Or the sound file which involves the "click" hasn't been trimmed down properly.Sounds like there's always about a second or 2 leeway before the speaker is turned off, this goes for every sound...
I would assume this is normal

Just tried this on IMM76K on a Verizon GNexus and didn't hear a thing.

GSM from Play Store
I have this issue and im using the AOKP M5 ROM with their stock Kernel

This is not a big deal.
BUT I am on AOKP and there is no touch sounds at all even with all volumes on.

That's ridiculous, even more so you have a video for it. Wow.

They all do this. There are many threads on this. Just search them.

I actually like this little audio feedback. You can only hear it in very quiet surroundings and since it has a menu setting ("touch sounds"): it's not a bug, it's a feature.

Ok, now you're just nitpicking.
Annoying.

Sorry for the way they treating you qb youze a legend in the et4g forums
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Yeah have this issue with my unlocked Galaxy Nexus from the Google Play Store...No worries tho it is not that big of a deal to me.

Aftermarket headphones with mics don't work for making calls on the GSIII?

Hey Guys, I am VERY frustrated with this phone.
I have 2 pairs of awesome aftermarket phones that I have used for years on various phones to make and receive calls: Klipsch s4is and Bose E2s, which have worked on: iphone 4, iphone 4s, nexus one, LG G2x.
I just sold my 4s to get a GS3, and now, the headphones are not recognized by the phone app. WHen I dial out, I cant hear anything, and the mic doesn't register my sounds. There is no option for wired headset in the phone sources section of the phone app (which has a bluetooth option, and a speaker option, but not a wired headset option).
Is there any solution to this? If not, I'm immediately selling. I can't imagine that this is the most popular android device. I'm already dealing with the stock mail app not showing or syncing Exchange sub-folders, which is very, very annoying. Combine that with the headphone issue, and I'm already ready to bail. Please help!

Your gonna sell your phone because of a headset ? Buy a bluetooth headset on ebay and thats it.
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shahkam said:
Your gonna sell your phone because of a headset ? Buy a bluetooth headset on ebay and thats it.
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not everybody wants to carry two things that need to be charged or the need to spend more money. i gotta say it really bothers me that i cant listen to music and cant switch to calls because it just doesnt work.

qben88 said:
not everybody wants to carry two things that need to be charged or the need to spend more money. i gotta say it really bothers me that i cant listen to music and cant switch to calls because it just doesnt work.
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Well i use the stock headset and they work just fine im not an audiophile but in my opinion it is okay ..
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Sounds like you are still loyal to I phones, and probably not ready for the s3. Probably best for you to stay where your loyalty lies.
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mike102871 said:
Sounds like you are still loyal to I phones, and probably not ready for the s3. Probably best for you to stay where your loyalty lies.
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Loyalty? What are you talking about. I'm about quality and features, not loyalty. In fact, to be loyal to a phone sounds completely wacko to me.
I'll repeat for everyone: I just called Samsung tech support. They have confirmed that aftermarket headsets DO NOT WORK ON THIS PHONE.
The also confirmed that: exchange sub-folders DO NOT WORK ON THIS PHONE.
You're telling me that is acceptable on their premier device? That is a joke. I will most definitely be selling this phone for one that supports the most basic, basic functionality.
BTW, I tested the phones on 5 different phones at the ATT and TMO stores and the Samsung kiosk at the mall. The headphones work on none of them. The 2nd tier customer support at Samsung has zero helpful information, and no date to fix. This is pathetic. I'll be getting rid of this phone now. If anyone wants a brand new white 32gb GS3 for TMO with an elago case and screen protector, let me know.

shahkam said:
Your gonna sell your phone because of a headset ? Buy a bluetooth headset on ebay and thats it.
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Not responsive to my post.
Secondly, bluetooth? i don't use bluetooth. i use high grade wired earphones with mic: Klipsch and Bose. THE DEVICE DOESN'T SUPPORT THEM.

silverghozt said:
Loyalty? What are you talking about. I'm about quality and features, not loyalty. In fact, to be loyal to a phone sounds completely wacko to me.
I'll repeat for everyone: I just called Samsung tech support. They have confirmed that aftermarket headsets DO NOT WORK ON THIS PHONE.
The also confirmed that: exchange sub-folders DO NOT WORK ON THIS PHONE.
You're telling me that is acceptable on their premier device? That is a joke. I will most definitely be selling this phone for one that supports the most basic, basic functionality.
BTW, I tested the phones on 5 different phones at the ATT and TMO stores and the Samsung kiosk at the mall. The headphones work on none of them. The 2nd tier customer support at Samsung has zero helpful information, and no date to fix. This is pathetic. I'll be getting rid of this phone now. If anyone wants a brand new white 32gb GS3 for TMO with an elago case and screen protector, let me know.
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Exchange sub folders work fine, I use them for work every day. (FYI, I have about 20 sub folders to my inbox.)

cybrnook said:
Exchange sub folders work fine, I use them for work every day. (FYI, I have about 20 sub folders to my inbox.)
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Interestingly, tier 2 Samsung support contradicted you this afternoon. They don't work on mine, and the support person confirmed the feature is not supported.

silverghozt said:
Interestingly, tier 2 Samsung support contradicted you this afternoon. They don't work on mine, and the support person confirmed the feature is not supported.
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Her advice was also to buy a third party exchange app.

Have you tried them using a non touchwiz rom? That might be a solution

I have the same problem, but it only happens on "3 buttons" headset. If you use "one button" headset, it works fine with S3.
Example: I have Bose MIE2 (universal) and MIE2i (dedicated volume buttons for iPhone).
MIE2 (one button) does not disconnect when making calls, but MIE2i gets disconnected everytime when making call and I have to re-plug to make it work again.

My brother has piece of sh it headphones from Walmart with a built in answer button and mic. It works just fine...
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silverghozt said:
Hey Guys, I am VERY frustrated with this phone.
I have 2 pairs of awesome aftermarket phones that I have used for years on various phones to make and receive calls: Klipsch s4is and Bose E2s, which have worked on: iphone 4, iphone 4s, nexus one, LG G2x.
I just sold my 4s to get a GS3, and now, the headphones are not recognized by the phone app. WHen I dial out, I cant hear anything, and the mic doesn't register my sounds. There is no option for wired headset in the phone sources section of the phone app (which has a bluetooth option, and a speaker option, but not a wired headset option).
Is there any solution to this? If not, I'm immediately selling. I can't imagine that this is the most popular android device. I'm already dealing with the stock mail app not showing or syncing Exchange sub-folders, which is very, very annoying. Combine that with the headphone issue, and I'm already ready to bail. Please help!
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I feel your pain. The first time I realized that my headsets didn't work with the S3 I was baffled. And it sucks that every time I'm listening to music with my earphones and I get a call, I have to pull the phone out and answer the call using the earpiece and mic on the phone. Totally stupid and frustrating. I hope it gets fixed soon. It's also really funny how the buttons work (one, not 3 on 3-button headsets like mine) to pause and skip tracks but the mic doesn't. Stupid.
On the Exchange Folders front, all folders do show up. The way I access them (I have multiple exchange accounts set up) is to hit the account drop down and then tap on show all folders. So the Samsung support person you talked to was wrong on that front.
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silverghozt said:
Not responsive to my post.
Secondly, bluetooth? i don't use bluetooth. i use high grade wired earphones with mic: Klipsch and Bose. THE DEVICE DOESN'T SUPPORT THEM.
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My original Android wired headphones (that came with the Nexus One) work perfectly with the T-Mobile SGSIII to play music and make/receive calls. The call comes in, the music pauses and I answer the call, talk to the caller, hear them perfectly and end the call using the headset button. There something wrong with either your headset (I'm leaning in this direction) or your phone.
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Maybe the headphones you are using are only for iphone?

Bose high quality lol
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Have you tried them using a non touchwiz rom? That might be a solution
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This
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I have used wired and BT headphones from 3 different companies and I can listen to music and make calls with all of them.
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I have klipsch 4S Androids and they work fantastic on my SGS3. Personally, I love the headset and the Mic on it works great. I know klipsch say the iPhone ones don't work on android. But I agree, you should buy a different phone. You must like what you buy when you spend on a top of the line phone.
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Loudspeaker vibrates/crackles on voice calls

I have (extensively) tested 2 different, brand new, Note II phones (Rogers and Bell) and when the volume is set louder than 1/2 on voice calls they both return somewhat distorted sound due to the speaker itself vibrating, crackling, especially at high pitch or low frequency sounds/voices. The closest comparison - although grossly exaggerated - would be much like a busted speaker (broken membrane), or more like the membrane touching the frame when the sound is too loud. It's not continuous but it rather comes and goes depending on the voice modulation and loudness, and although one may normally overlook it, it gets quite noticeable (and annoying) when paying attention.
On the other hand the very same phones perform exceptionally well when playing any other kinds of sounds (not calls) - YouTube music or voice, Music Player, Pod-casts, Radio, etc - they are all fine, more than fine actually.
Anybody else has noticed that?
P.S. Please don't make comments like "I don't use loudspeaker on calls", or anything alike, I didn't start this for statistical purposes, but rather to figure out whether I bumped into some isolated cases or it's a rather common issue on our Note 2.

same here... crackling on speakerphone voice calls

con_ritmo said:
same here... crackling on speakerphone voice calls
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Thanks for contributing.
3 reported cases so far...anybody else? It's beginning to start looking like a production or supplier issue.

Same Here.
nacos said:
Thanks for contributing.
3 reported cases so far...anybody else? It's beginning to start looking like a production or supplier issue.
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I already wrote a post about this. Don't think there's anything wrong with the phones speaker because when playing music, youtube etc..., at the highest volume, there is not crackling happening. I think It has to do with the cellular reception and how the signal gets converted to the speaker. The way the phone handles the calls. Hope a software update can fix this.

robjbw said:
I already wrote a post about this. Don't think there's anything wrong with the phones speaker because when playing music, youtube etc..., at the highest volume, there is not crackling happening. I think It has to do with the cellular reception and how the signal gets converted to the speaker. The way the phone handles the calls. Hope a software update can fix this.
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That's exactly what I was thinking and, otherwise the reason behind testing myself 2 different Note II on two different networks. The only reason this still bothers me is because I came from an S3 and I was using it the same way, yet NEVER experienced this. On the other hand I know that for marketing purposes Samsung "pushed" the loudness of the loudspeaker on the Note II and while they may have had strict control in digital conversion of the sound files played through various apps, there wasn't much they could do/control about voice (due to multiple network variables).

I have not noticed this on a voice call, however on some games like Angry Birds Star Wars it does this when the volume is all the way up. Glad I am not the only one to notice this. I have the Verizon version of the Note 2. Mine also does not crackle during music play back. Guess its something we are going to have to live with. I even popped the back of the phone off to see if it helped and it did not. IMHO its sad considering how much the device cost. I paid outright for it.

I also hear this anomaly.
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One would think with the size of this phone that it would have a nice size speaker that could handle it all without issue.

i had 3 note 2 ..i had to switch them out for various reasons..but all 3 including my current note 2 has the same call problem using the loud speaker..but again music and everything else comes out perfectly fine..just on calls only..so guess its normal and we cant do anything about it..

I also went through 2 Note 2's for this reason and have the same speaker issue. I have friends on Tmobile with same issue as well.
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This is odd..... I have never had any problem with voice calls on speaker. Whats really weird is I came from the SGS2 Skyrocket and it had this very same problem, only voice calls on speaker . I was happy when using the Note2 because I no longer had this issue. Maybe it is hardware related, not the speaker but a chip or something
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Yes, having the same issue here. Went from hunting down Volume + for my G-Nexus to looking for a way to throttle the volume on my Note2's external speaker .
Its like Samsung got tired of people complaing about low volume on some devices so they went the complete other direction and over powered the external speaker.
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I don't really use speakerphone so... j/k yea I've had that problem, work with Samsung phones all day, and it does seem to be a consistent issue. I'm not familiar with Canadian carriers are those both gsm or is there any cdma in there? I know gsm has weaknesses when it comes to the digital to analog conversion & back.. your voice is converted to digital for backend transmission and back to analog on the other end. Maybe the note has some weakness in this area. It would be interesting to hear anyone's experience with a cdma note though.
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Top Speaker Distortion

Just today I started playing some music and noticed and awful crackling/popping distortion coming from the top speaker at higher volumes. Not loud volumes, but higher volumes. I flashed to sense and CM but it is not a ROM issue. This just started today or yesterday, since it wasn't there 2 days ago.
I am about a 2 weeks over my 14-day return period, and I REALLY don't want a refurb (knowing VZW's awful history of terrible refurbs).
What should I do? :crying:

Bump.

Try a frequency generator app and find the frequency that you hear the issue. I believe that some of the frequency generator apps have left and right balance, which should let you isolate the bad side so it is easier to hear the problem. At least this way it should be obvious whether you have a damaged speaker.
You might be boned, but I have had good units from square trade. Asurion was hit and miss. They actually sent me fouled up units as well as brand new units in box with all accessories with the Rezound.

xdadevnube said:
Try a frequency generator app and find the frequency that you hear the issue. I believe that some of the frequency generator apps have left and right balance, which should let you isolate the bad side so it is easier to hear the problem. At least this way it should be obvious whether you have a damaged speaker.
You might be boned, but I have had good units from square trade. Asurion was hit and miss. They actually sent me fouled up units as well as brand new units in box with all accessories with the Rezound.
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But what if I have a contract with VZW?
And the frequency generator app makes it MUCH more noticeable.

GrayTheWolf said:
But what if I have a contract with VZW?
And the frequency generator app makes it MUCH more noticeable.
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You can get Squaretrade or Asurion insurance added to your device.
Verizon probably won't want to issue you a new device. Asurion and Squaretrade will likely issue you a CLN if you do it through insurance. But this speaker issue is probably a manufacturer defect so it should be replaced under warranty, so you shouldn't need insurance on it for this issue. I don't know of a way to get a new device via warranty or insurance, unless they run out of CLN devices. I believe that is what happened with the Rezound-- I think there were so many insurance claims because many of them were defective, so they ran out and had to ship new units instead.

If you can do without for a short period you could send to HTC for repair .. Since s-off/s-on is a pretty easy switch should be no big deal if you can do without or use an old phone
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Well, I am going to see if the VZW reps will give me a new one today. It's worth a shot.
I need to make sure I have swapped before 4.3 hits in case it patches the exploit.

Have you tried turning the beats audio off?
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aer0zer0 said:
Have you tried turning the beats audio off?
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Shouldn't make a difference. Isn't the phone designed to run with the beats EQ?
But anyway, I have tried on stock and CM and it is definitely a hardware issue.

That sucks hopefully you can get a bn one
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If its cracking its blown. You can try HTC but they will most likely say user damage. Hope you can get it replaced. Did you install one of sound enhancements that's on here?
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I emailed HTC and got a reply withing the hour. They asked if I had done a factory reset, asked for IMEI, and such.
I replied to them with the info and they haven't emailed me since.

This happened to me on CM. And I had just finished posting on here that I was having ZERO problems with CM.
Anyway, I restored my bonestock backup and the crackling has gone away. Not sure why CM would make that happen.
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josh995 said:
This happened to me on CM. And I had just finished posting on here that I was having ZERO problems with CM.
Anyway, I restored my bonestock backup and the crackling has gone away. Not sure why CM would make that happen.
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Perhaps because CM doesn't quite have the right kernel settings to handle the more powerful speakers and dedicated amp.

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Perhaps because CM doesn't quite have the right kernel settings to handle the more powerful speakers and dedicated amp.
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I had noticed upon flashing CM that the audio sounded piss poor. Could be a preset that needs to be tuned.

mzrdisi said:
I had noticed upon flashing CM that the audio sounded piss poor. Could be a preset that needs to be tuned.
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Well, switching back to sense and playing anything still has the issue, so it is a hardware problem for me.

Just an update on this.
Sent my phone out today, we will see how fast HTC repairs it.

Update to this thread;
Got my phone back from HTC today! Speakers sound great like they are new!

Nice turn around!

thatsricci said:
Nice turn around!
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They received it 12:00 PM on Wednesday and shipped it out 3:00 PM on Thursday. A great turnaround.
I even got a free HTC cleaning cloth in the box. I'll post pictures in a bit.