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Just Got My HTC Desire (UNLOCKED)
and BTW loving every bit of it
was wondering that if in the future it would be possible to run Windows Phone 7 on HTC Desire??
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[Poll] Whether anyone is interested to run windows phone 7 on Desire?
P.S. Just Learnt someone is working a port of andoid on the iphone (not )
Lol! That will take some effort to make.
It will be really good though, just depends on what future android releases are like.
Windows Phone can not be ported, cause it is closed source.
And why would you want that crap anyway?
I went with Desire cuz I didnt want to have a windows phone nor Symbian but had no money for an Iphone. lol. So thanks but no thanks.
lol the Desire is much better than the iPhone
You should be happy that you didn't have the money
That's like saying can iPhone OS be ported to the Desire.
Never gonna happen with a closed source OS.
shaundalglish said:
Windows Phone can not be ported, cause it is closed source.
And why would you want that crap anyway?
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you're calling it crap when it's not even out yet? 0.o
It might not be as good as android, but im sure it's not 'crap'
It's just my opinion, but yes, I call it crap.
i agree
I agree I had a windows phone everything was so complicated... windows stick to home pcs
Dualboot IMO
http://www.cnet.com.au/telstra-leak-shows-a-desire-to-range-htc-s-mozart-339304024.htm
looks just like htc desire but windows phone 7 .
maybe hardware specs r same as well
Android is open source, it can be configured to diffrent device configurations, windows phone isnt, as the most of the driver, sensors and hardware for the desire was written using the android open source project, they arnt compatible with windows phone full stop lol
If WP7 would ever be ported on Desire, I would probably just test it, to see what its all about. and then delete it...
It would be interesting to play with, but I doubt it would be possible
There's a project porting android to the iPhone, and it's proving very difficult even with Android being open source. So closed source, I don't think it would work..
Android is open source, it can be configured to diffrent device configurations, windows phone isnt, as the most of the driver, sensors and hardware for the desire was written using the android open source project, they arnt compatible with windows phone full stop lol
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If htc releases a phone with win phone 7 which hardware is equal to desire - might be a possibility.
But I can not imagine one dev wanting to do that
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brianius said:
If htc releases a phone with win phone 7 which hardware is equal to desire - might be a possibility.
But I can not imagine one dev wanting to do that
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i dont even think that would be possible, the sdk htc used to write the sensor and harware code isnt compatible with windows, on the other hand, android can be configured to run on hardware written to run on windows phone thats the problem lol
dexteral said:
http://www.cnet.com.au/telstra-leak-shows-a-desire-to-range-htc-s-mozart-339304024.htm
looks just like htc desire but windows phone 7 .
maybe hardware specs r same as well
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So umnmm.....did anyone actually READ the link?
Today's internet leak is brought to you by our friends at Adobe Photoshop and is apparently known as the HTC Mozart.
A leaked internal Telstra document is offering the first indication of when we might actually see a Windows Phone 7 device in stores and all but confirms that HTC will be one of the first manufacturers to launch a phone running Microsoft's overhauled OS.
We suggest you forget about the image, which is clearly just an HTC Desire with a WP7 home screen photoshopped onto the front of it. However, what is really interesting is the AU$49 per month price cap, Telstra's newest and lowest available Next G cap. Everyone who assumed that the first swell of WP7 phones would run at a premium cost (us included) were obviously mistaken.
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I would use it. The more I play with Windows Phone 7 the more I am sure it is going to be a serious player in the mobile world. I love the openess of Android, but I've been playing with several WP7 ui apps and I want more!
I would buy a WP7 phone as a secondary, but as of yet, I don't really like any of the hardware currently available with AT&T bands...
Wrong Thread
WP7 has been ported to HTC HD2; maybe it was easier because WP7 is based on Windows CE 6, as winmo was.
Hi All
Is it possible, that will come an Windows Phone 7 rom on the HTC desire???
No development and posted before: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=814839
That would be nice!
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mission impossible
Okay, here's the question that appears in most of these threads:
...Why would you want an inferior OS installed on top of Android?
I had a play with wp7 the other day, on the outside it seemed very very sleek and user friendly but when you read the reviews about what is missing.... urg. Its like going back to basics
Moved to Q&A. As was stated in the thread title, this is a question, so it should not be posted in development.
TermyJW said:
...Why would you want an inferior OS installed on top of Android?
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Inferiority is in the eye of the beholder. So please don't state an opinion as being fact. Some of us just like to try different things, whether it be roms or OSs.
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Inferiority is in the eye of the beholder. So please don't state an opinion as being fact. Some of us just like to try different things, whether it be roms or OSs.
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Thats not true, wp7 is inferior to android in every respect, it might look deep, but if you read up on all.the things ms has left out, it can barely be called a smartphone os, more like a feature phone......
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WP7 is effectively a brand new OS (primarily because the previous versions were so awful) so it is bound to be lacking in some areas. But compare Android v1 to WP7 v1 and the comparison isn't so favourable. M$ are sometimes slow to join the party, but give them time and the will give android a damned good run for its money.
But put all that aside, it all comes down to personal preference. I have worked with Windows since 3.1 and although I have tried various favours of Linux, I don't "get it". I used iOS for 18 months b4 Android and Android is inferior in many ways, but it comes down to personal preference.
And remember, XDA Developers was originally a Windows Mobile forum, so don't be so closed minded about people's individual choices.
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WP7 is effectively a brand new OS (primarily because the previous versions were so awful) so it is bound to be lacking in some areas. But compare Android v1 to WP7 v1 and the comparison isn't so favourable.
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Why would I compare Android V1 to WP7? Android V1 with WP1, maybe, but if you want to tell me that WP7, after so many editions/versions, is similar to Android V1, that is one huge fail my friend.
On topic.. it's impossible and I agree that the interest to put inferior OS is really low. Those are very few people that would have it installed (if it was possible) and soon after remove it. For those I don't think any dev would go the hard way of porting WP7 to Desire.
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Why would I compare Android V1 to WP7? Android V1 with WP1, maybe, but if you want to tell me that WP7, after so many editions/versions, is similar to Android V1, that is one huge fail my friend.
On topic.. it's impossible and I agree that the interest to put inferior OS is really low. Those are very few people that would have it installed (if it was possible) and soon after remove it. For those I don't think any dev would go the hard way of porting WP7 to Desire.
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Come on, you say that something is impossible on a developers forum?
There was a short youtube movie a few months back, which showed WP7 booting up on a HD2. So it's not impossible, it's just a question if there are some devs that want to put time in it
ljesh said:
Why would I compare Android V1 to WP7? Android V1 with WP1, maybe, but if you want to tell me that WP7, after so many editions/versions, is similar to Android V1, that is one huge fail my friend.
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And Android v1 was a development of....? Linux. Hardly a new development, whereas WP7 is new from the ground up.
The point is, some of us would love to experiment with different OSs but don't want to, or can't afford to buy new hardware to do so. Whereas some other people are so blinkered that they think Android is the ultimatimate OS - this is a subjective decision based on personal preference, not an absolute quantifiable fact.
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Those are very few people that would have it installed (if it was possible) and soon after remove it
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In your opinion. As I said before, this was a Windows Mobile forum long before it incorporated other OSs and devices, but you wouldn't know that as you've only been on here for a year or so.
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And Android v1 was a development of....? Linux. Hardly a new development, whereas WP7 is new from the ground up.
The point is, some of us would love to experiment with different OSs but don't want to, or can't afford to buy new hardware to do so. Whereas some other people are so blinkered that they think Android is the ultimatimate OS - this is a subjective decision based on personal preference, not an absolute quantifiable fact.
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your missing the point totally, im no fanboy trust me, but although android is based on an established os, it it googles first attempt at creating an operating system where as microsoft have been doing this for well over a decade. anyway my point is android is a smartphone os, all microsoft have created is a ms iphone, wp7 is not a smartphone os more like a feature phone os, windows mobile was more like the pc version of windows, where as wp7 is just a microsoft phone, it leaves little for developers to create, as they have to do this and that and plaster ms all over the place just like apple enforce with the iphone.
android has alot more scope for development and alot more freedom for developers to develop there ideas. anyway the bottom line is wp7 is not open source, there will never be any source code available for it, this makes porting it an almost impossible task, i dare say i could count the people on 1 hand that have the ability to do this task
ps ive been on here for alot longer than may 10, i changed my tag when i moved to android, my first device was a htc kaiser
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AndroHero said:
your missing the point totally, im no fanboy trust me, but although android is based on an established os, it it googles first attempt at creating an operating system
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Google didn't create an OS, they ported an established one.
AndroHero said:
anyway my point is android is a smartphone os, all microsoft have created is a ms iphone, wp7 is not a smartphone os more like a feature phone os
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Definition of smartphone: "A smartphone is a mobile phone offering advanced capabilities, often with PC-like functionality".
Definition of feature phone: "A mobile phone or mobile (also called cellphone and handphone) is an electronic device used for mobile telecommunications (mobile telephone, text messaging or data transmission)"
I think that your understanding of these terms is way off.
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it leaves little for developers to create, as they have to do this and that and plaster ms all over the place just like apple enforce with the iphone. android has alot more scope for development and alot more freedom for developers to develop there ideas.
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You seem to suggest that a smartphone needsto be opensource whereas most smartphone OSs are in fact proprietary, e.g. Blackberry, iOS, WebOS, BadaOS and before Symbian went open source a year ago, closed source would have accounted for about 80% of the market!
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anyway the bottom line is wp7 is not open source, there will never be any source code available for it, this makes porting it an almost impossible task, i dare say i could count the people on 1 hand that have the ability to do this task
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Fair comment, but it would still be very cool.
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And Android v1 was a development of....? Linux. Hardly a new development, whereas WP7 is new from the ground up.
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I think you will find that WP7 is based on Windows CE 6, with some elements from the forthcoming CE 7. So not at all new really considering that CE 6 dates from 2006!
Regards,
Dave
You are correct, it is a CE6/CE7 hybrid, so it has much in common with Android in that they are new platforms based on existing underlying technology. Shud have checked my facts on that one.
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People who say that it isn't possible, check here:
WP7 running on the HD2.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=832533
Lennyz1988 said:
People who say that it isn't possible, check here:
WP7 running on the HD2.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=832533
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There's potentially a very big difference!
The existing WM bootloader (IPL/SPL etc) on the HD2 may make it possible to boot WP7 on it. I'm not saying this is definitely the case, but it does seem quite likely to me. In addition, they are talking about this being an early build of WP7 - again, it's quite likely that the HD2 was used as a test platform for WP7.
That's not to say that it would be impossible to get WP7 running on a Desire, but it does given potential reason why it would be a lot harder than on the HD2.
Regards,
Dave
hi all,
I read this thread just now:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=857188
I wanna talk about the same thing but that thread has been closed.
According to some website, I found both G10 and iPhone4 are based on ARM architecture. I have use IDA to analyse some files in iOS 4.2.1 update packages and I found it use ARM7 instruction set. So I think there is still some possibility to port iOS kernel to G10. Is there anyone who also interested on this? Could you tell me something useful about this project? Thanks a lot.
BTW: If you think this post makes no means, please do not laugh at me as the guys who has done this in the thread above. I only talk about my idea. Although this idea maybe impossible to be implemented. I hope you can give me some adivse, information or others, not your ridicule. Thanks in advance.
It's about as likely as getting windows phone 7 to work on the DHD. Without the source it's probably an impossible undertaking as the kernel will need to be rewritten with the correct hooks and drivers to work on the DHD.
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It's about as likely as getting windows phone 7 to work on the DHD. Without the source it's probably an impossible undertaking as the kernel will need to be rewritten with the correct hooks and drivers to work on the DHD.
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Yes, I was agree with your opinion. The driver is really needed to be written for a new device. But for some basic peripheral such as touch-screen, may have a common driver between iphone and desire hd?
jilingshu said:
Yes, I was agree with your opinion. The driver is really needed to be written for a new device. But for some basic peripheral such as touch-screen, may have a common driver between iphone and desire hd?
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Highly unlikely in my opinion, if you want iOs on your phone buy an iphone.
BTW I'm sure if you did manage the port you would be unable to connect to iTunes to install apps so would be restricted to clydia etc
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Highly unlikely in my opinion, if you want iOs on your phone buy an iphone.
BTW I'm sure if you did manage the port you would be unable to connect to iTunes to install apps so would be restricted to clydia etc
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I just discuss about the possibility and gather information about this. So, do not suggest me to buy a iPhone. BTW: I'd like to buy a iPad2 when it released.
Why would you want iOS on a DHD?
That would be a downgrade
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Why would you want iOS on a DHD?
That would be a downgrade
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Nowadays Android can run well on iPhone. So why not try to port iOS to Android phone?
I think a major issue would be the screen resolution; the DHD runs at 800x480 and the iphone4 runs at something like 960x640 this would mean that everything would just be wrong, and most probably wouldn't do anything at all. I don't think that it would really be viable for a dev to work on something like this, especially as quite a few of us (me for example) moved away from iOS for Android.
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I think a major issue would be the screen resolution; the DHD runs at 800x480 and the iphone4 runs at something like 960x640 this would mean that everything would just be wrong, and most probably wouldn't do anything at all. I don't think that it would really be viable for a dev to work on something like this, especially as quite a few of us (me for example) moved away from iOS for Android.
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hmm... Resolution is a issue only for application developers... It should not be a problem for kernel porting I think.
i have been highly involved in OSX86 which is where you are porting mac osx to work on windows machines and from that, i can safely say that this project would involve so much work that you are essentially rewriting the whole OS
panyan said:
i have been highly involved in OSX86 which is where you are porting mac osx to work on windows machines and from that, i can safely say that this project would involve so much work that you are essentially rewriting the whole OS
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Yes. To driver the peripheral device, we have to write all the driver or at least, modify the original driver. Without the source code, this would be too hard.
BTW: Is it possible for us to port xnu(or the kernel of mac os x) to ARM platform just as iOS do?
And why would you want to
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you don't have iOS source right, you will have to disassemble and go thorugh lots of code, replace a lot of things, then fix so that every thing works in a flow..
This will take years! with no assurance of success again. you may also have to find security holes in iOS again to load it on a different phone.
If you had the source then few months!
Not to mention a possible law suit from Apple.
Hi folks.....it s possible have dualboot on DHD?how to install win7 on DHD? It s possible porting os6 of blackberry on DHD or HD2? thanks.....
^^^^ no its not possible right to put up Win7 on DHD! don't think anybody is going to work on that also.
But Win7 is ported to HD2, or not? Correct me, if i'm wrong. And if it's ported to HD2, it should be possible to port it to the DHD.
I think the problem is only the boot not the porting....because on the HD2 is possible load win7, linux, winxp, android, ecc ecc.....
IOs is like having an Sexually transmitted disease like chlamydia
Its common amongst people and has bad effects on the market.
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IOs is like having an Sexually transmitted disease like chlamydia
Its common amongst people and has bad effects on the market.
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Ok,epic!
Anyway,why would anyone want iOS?I find it pure bs.But even if there was a way and a reason,would porting it be important enough to put you against Apple?Because,and excuse me everyone for the language I use,the bastards over at apple can sue you for naming a product with an "i" in front!
hi, i was wondering if there is any possible way to dual boot windows mobile and android on the desire hd? if not, are there any plans by the xda developers to pursue this issu?
Thank you
+1 I want windows mobile on my DHD only because I love the mod.
Sorry but I doute this will happen, though we have many talented ROM developers on here WinMo is closed source, thus not allowed on our devices. In contrast android is open source that is why other phones have both if they're licensed. It could happen but it won't happen here.
Again sorry to dispoint would of loved to try Windows Phone 7
WindowsMobile is impossible. WP7 is possible since hardware are almost identical, even same digitalizers...
StCory said:
Sorry but I doute this will happen, though we have many talented ROM developers on here WinMo is closed source, thus not allowed on our devices. In contrast android is open source that is why other phones have both if they're licensed. It could happen but it won't happen here.
Again sorry to dispoint would of loved to try Windows Phone 7
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yeah its kind of dissapointing, and it does make sense. well thanks for ur help
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WindowsMobile is impossible. WP7 is possible since hardware are almost identical, even same digitalizers...
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I think he meant impossible from the legal point of view, because Microsoft would sue XDA and shut it down. I'm still hoping someone releases a dual boot anonymously.
I know this sounds crazy but still...
Recently HP released the source code for WebOS and it was ported to devices like the HTC EVO 3D (with multiboot!!)
Wouldn't it be great to get it on our Defy? I know the devs are quite busy with ICS. But this might be a good idea....
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Nobody managed to put different kernel other than the leaked/original ones and your're asking about WebOS on Defy... Man, you make me think that you've been living in a world of your own for the last two years or so...
Defy has a locked bootloader, so il will only boot Motorola signed stuff... not even fully custom Android.
Offtopic: Please give me a good reason to dump Android and fully switch to WebOS.
Well, MeeGo would be nice....support for both Android and Qt apps, but WebOS... really.
Don't be rude )
I had a Touchpad for a brief week to play with. It's got an intuitive interface and OS. Different from my Defy and Gf's iPhone.
But it's too little to late. Not to many apps. About "a billion less downloads". Unless some company turns this in the new Android.
Still multiboot would be nice. Diversity is a known fact here on XDA. I myself have used 4 different Oses -excluding WebOS which i don't know after a week of use- and Android is the best. Let's make Android better.
Also note that the best OSes are the ones with the best apps and support. Right now those are Android and iOS.
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Offtopic: Please give me a good reason to dump Android and fully switch to WebOS.
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I said "Multiboot". There's no reason to fully dump out Android (the world's most powerful phone os) but WebOS should be great if you low on battery.
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hold on man... we have yet to properly install ics and you want webos?
lets just hope motorola unlocks bootloader and get a full custom roms for defy and then we can think of other os
abhifx said:
hold on man... we have yet to properly install ics and you want webos?
lets just hope motorola unlocks bootloader and get a full custom roms for defy and then we can think of other os
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Even I'm waiting for the unlocked bootloader.
And I'm sure our really awesome devs will be successful in everything they do!
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I suppose if you don't ask, you don't get.
WebOS is alright but I'd echo the other comments - the apps are woeful, obscenely overpriced and despite the latest move from HP it's dead in the water.
Whilst it's quite intuitive Android is definetly 10 times ahead of all the OS's not just WebOS.
Deformat said:
Well, MeeGo would be nice....support for both Android and Qt apps, but WebOS... really.
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+1 for MeeGo
mrolp said:
+1 for MeeGo
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MeeGo is dead.. MeeGoo is just another reincarnation of some OS... there is new one now...
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Moblin was first then meegoo continued and now tizen is last one. Somebody correct me if I am wrong.
Meego? dual boot?...R.I.P
Everyone knows that meego is just some symbian mod made for nerds, no ofence. It's as dead as symbian is and windows mobile...
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Everyone knows that meego is just some symbian mod made for nerds, no ofence. It's as dead as symbian is and windows mobile...
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that statement is so wrong except that its dead
nice, it would be good